CAG PSN Gamesharing #3 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

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[quote name='Crashmasteromega']Ok guys thanks for the help earlier. But here is a problem I have come across. Some host are refusing to give up the new passwords because they are afraid of what might happen later. I'm agreeing on that to a degree as long as other members in that share agree as well. I think we need a new system in place and I have a 3 step system that could possibly work if everyone agreed. This is just an opinion so please don't bash. Just trying to help all those who are afraid of the future.

1. Host has password to the share (but also should be held accountable for what happens thereafter)

2. If someone decides to sell their share it must be brought before the group for a vote. (That way we can keep trustworthy individuals in and scammers and the sorts out, or make it easier to identify who "the bad guy is")

3. And for the ps plus groups who are in a long term share and now reduced to 2 games forward on an account, The 2 people who get all the ps plus extras must give a partial refund to those who are unfortunately out of luck. Or set up a system where the 2 activations can be shared time wise with the other members so it is fair to all those involved.

Thanks, just trying to help.[/QUOTE]
 
Which hosts are refusing passwords. That's incredibly inappropriate if there were no problems with the account and you rightfully own your slot.
 
Still looking for a blue toad murder files share pm me please :)

Think someone can update the first post with all changed accounts and who to contact?
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AGREE! Even a separate thread?

This is very important, I know we already have a list and that's great... but it's not... it's a much bigger issue... it's marginilised and hidden - it needs to be apparant on every page.

It is the most important imformation this thread contains... it really deserves it's own thread and I'd love to see someone make a list Pre & Post Armageddon.
 
1. good, but... (what if host sold his slot, you realize he won't put as much time in it as with [kept] slot, right?)

2. didn't get crap

3. sucks. 2 slots is the end of LT groups, period, or they have to fix that individually/internally
 
Red Faction: Guerilla ($20, $4 a share)
1. jamehze (host)
2. cobolatrix
3. Fred87nc
4. Fred87nc
5.

The account is set, game bought. Account info will be PM'ed ASAP!
____

For sale:
Battlefield 1943 + Bad Company 2 Onslaught mode $2
Dead Nation + Superstardust HD (the last is a WB game) $2
Or get both for $3

Thanks.
 
[quote name='jamehze']Which hosts are refusing passwords. That's incredibly inappropriate if there were no problems with the account and you rightfully own your slot.[/QUOTE]

I don't want to put out names cause I am in agreeance to a point as long as its the original host, if its just a share holder changing passwords and taking over im very against that act and so far no one in my shares has done that. As long as the original host has my pw and I trust them I'm ok with them holding onto it for the time being until a new system comes into place. Hope others in a share can agree and can work with the host during this time.
 
[quote name='meeek']it's "voilà!" (yeah with the accent, I'm not really Nigerian lol, I'm Fr...)

and why are you saying that? I ALWAYS check my PMs, and if I don't reply it's because I forgot, or because I'm on most often at nights...[/QUOTE]

Just kidding my little French friend! :)
 
[quote name='Crashmasteromega']I don't want to put out names cause[/QUOTE]

You kinda opened that can of worms already. Who was it, haha? It's about to get ugly up in here because people started playing hero instead of communicating with their host.
 
I am the host of the group for detuned, my aquarium, and linger in shadows (email [email protected]). Crashmasteromega mentioned that his share had been stolen, so I have deactivated all 5 slots and changed the password. Please message me if you owned one of these slots, and I will give you the new password. I don't currently have the original list of members, but I know the shares were sold around.

On that note, if someone will buy my share for $1.50, I'll give it up. :)
 
I'm not here to witchhunt so you don't have to name anyone. Still I don't think keeping passwords when you're an established trustworthy member is appropriate. I have every right to access my games. My hard drive isn't big enough to hold every single game and I reDL things all the time and to go through a host each time too much.
 
Everyone is gonna have to vent and spill the beans to some degree. No use hanging threats over other CAGs. The more that's out in the open about shares being deactivated/activated the better. Let it out and get it over with.
 
[quote name='meeek']1. good, but... (what if host sold his slot, you realize he won't put as much time in it as with [kept] slot, right?)

2. didn't get crap

3. sucks. 2 slots is the end of LT groups, period, or they have to fix that individually/internally[/QUOTE]

Like I said just trying to help and what didn't u get about 2?
It's a voting system within the 5 group share. If you decide to sell your share and we can all agree that the new person purchasing share has good references and is trustworthy, slot can be sold and if not cant sell till someone respectable comes along and is voted in. I think it could help alot with all these scammers and it's about all we can do now that the new system is in place. I would rather be stuck with something I can play then be sol altogether. I have alot of money invested in my shares like I'm sure alot of others on here as well and we want to secure our investments the best way we can. If nothing is put into place soon then it's just going to get even worse, might as well sell all shares and this thread is closed for good. Would hate to see that happen.
 
if you can find out who is in what group, you could do the "deactivate all" then reactivate and not worry for 6 months about being deactivated. at that point you just worry about password changes and host would know if someone tried to change the pass. just a thought.

making a list of groups and posting full emails= bad idea.....you know who is watching.
 
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[quote name='transcollector']if you can find out who is in what group, you could do the "deactivate all" then reactivate and not worry for 6 months about being deactivated. at that point you just worry about password changes and host would know if someone tried to change the pass. just a thought.

making a list of groups and posting full emails= bad idea.....you know who is watching.


Anyone interesting in splitting the cost of a Saints row 3 online pass? only $2 a person and you also get saints row 2 free. Let me know, just bought a pass for $4[/QUOTE]


Good point. I am compiling a list in the Social Group. If you're part of it, feel free to check it. If you're not, ask someone who is.
 
There isn't going to be a new system. All these password changes are a temporary fix because of the resell element. What exactly is "proof" anyway, LOL? I keep seeing host require this, but I'm not sure we've defined a criteria.
 
for the love of pete, stop changing passwords for no reason (whether you are a host or not) people are freaking out for no reason just like when the psn came back online and there was a mandatory password change.

you are just making it harder for people who were not original members of the share and are now getting screwed over.
 
[quote name='Acquiesc3']Are all ps plus content reduced to two accounts immediately? Or are the pre-Nov 18 downloaded content still 5 slots? Either way I can't really test this until next week.



Wondering this as well.[/QUOTE]

It's not retroactive, so older content is safe. For now.
 
[quote name='Zuttasoxx']Somebody tested if an account has 5 activated account if you can deactivate and reactivate? Also somebody found a way of how to identify your own ps3 on qriocity site?[/QUOTE]
One thing you could try... Qriocity shows you which PS3 is activated for video content so assuming nobody else in the group has activated videos for that account you could set your PS3 as the active video console and then it'll be identified on qriocity with a little film icon.
 
[quote name='NSYNC']There isn't going to be a new system. All these password changes are a temporary fix because of the resell element. What exactly is "proof" anyway, LOL? I keep seeing host require this, but I'm not sure we've defined a criteria.[/QUOTE]

I just trace back current slot holders to the original ones and confirm with each one. That's what I did with the Hot Pursuit and Splinter Cell groups and it worked out fine.
 
I have a $5.99 code that I can't use since it only works for US accounts and I'm Canadian. Anyone want to Paypal me $4.99 for it, I'd appreciate the favor and you would save a buck. Thanks.
 
[quote name='transcollector']if you can find out who is in what group, you could do the "deactivate all" then reactivate and not worry for 6 months about being deactivated.[/QUOTE]
This is a good idea that I haven't seen mentioned.
 
Someone changed the password to the Resident Evil 5 share I hosted. I have changed the password back to another password. This shit is gonna get old, quick.
 
[quote name='jamehze']I just trace back current slot holders to the original ones and confirm with each one. That's what I did with the Hot Pursuit and Splinter Cell groups and it worked out fine.[/QUOTE]

So did you find the scammer in both groups?
 
Can anyone confirm if a last minute purchase (on 11/18) still count for 5 systems? I would have made the purchases on 11/17, but the maintenance kept me from doing so. This would determine if I shoud spend on a PSN card tonight (11/18) when I get paid after work (and my family can enjoy the games from afar, I have 2 consoles where I live but will be back home for the holidays ... so I can still enjoy my games, I plan on registering my 2 systems and family will miss out post-11/18).
 
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[quote name='NSYNC']So did you find the scammer in both groups?[/QUOTE]

Nope didn't, but I've at least narrowed down the amount of people who activate in the Hot Pursuit group so if it happens again I'll have a better record. I've claimed my slot and am offering all current slot holders theirs in order to identify each individual slot. I might not find the scammer, but it most likely will not happen again.
 
[quote name='charles']for the love of pete, stop changing passwords for no reason (whether you are a host or not) people are freaking out for no reason just like when the psn came back online and there was a mandatory password change.

you are just making it harder for people who were not original members of the share and are now getting screwed over.[/QUOTE]

If you resell the slot.. You should always state who is the host.. As long as they can contact the host it is no problem.
Now only the deactivate all function works.. And it's the best function to hijack the game. So tell me if we are freaking out for no reason or all the reason. Even more reason if the slot is resold cause then the culprit is even harder to track.
 
lol some clown in one of my BF3 groups deactivated everyone and changed the password. Recovered the account pretty easily and I have the original group members written down but how would I know if they sold the account to someone else? I'll go through this headache once but please read below for all other accounts I've hosted.

Rather than changing the password on any of the accounts I've hosted and having to go through the trouble of figuring out who sold what share to who, I will simply be issuing a warning to all scammers. If you change the password on any of my accounts or deactivate people, any possible gain you get from these actions will be brief and temporary. I will recover the account, change the password, and keep it to myself. No one wins. You lose an account. Everyone else in the group loses the account. I get to keep the account but have angry people writing me angry PMs. But I won't budge. Don't fuck with me.
 
[quote name='Usuyami']lol some clown in one of my BF3 groups deactivated everyone and changed the password. Recovered the account pretty easily and I have the original group members written down but how would I know if they sold the account to someone else? I'll go through this headache once but please read below for all other accounts I've hosted.

Rather than changing the password on any of the accounts I've hosted and having to go through the trouble of figuring out who sold what share to who, I will simply be issuing a warning to all scammers. If you change the password on any of my accounts or deactivate people, any possible gain you get from these actions will be brief and temporary. I will recover the account, change the password, and keep it to myself. No one wins. You lose an account. Everyone else in the group loses the account. I get to keep the account but have angry people writing me angry PMs. But I won't budge. Don't fuck with me.[/QUOTE]

You're best bet is to send a PM to the other 4 original members to ask if they still hold the account, or who they sold it to.
 
This just seems like an unneccessary hassle; you're assuming that every single account out there has one member who is evil and has been plotting and waiting till today to take your slots...

Boogie woogie! I'm the bad egg who' s going to get rich with your $2 share!! Just saying, aside from badman and a couple of others, this community is full of trustworthy people.

Sorry if I sound whiny, just having to deal with 8 accounts that have had their passwords changed has made me cranky. Not to mention how little protection this provides; I could just get the new password, sell it to someone else, that guy messes it all up, and you still have no way to tell who did it

[quote name='Zuttasoxx']If you resell the slot.. You should always state who is the host.. As long as they can contact the host it is no problem.
Now only the deactivate all function works.. And it's the best function to hijack the game. So tell me if we are freaking out for no reason or all the reason. Even more reason if the slot is resold cause then the culprit is even harder to track.[/QUOTE]
 
For anyone who is locked out of an account, feel free to PM me the content / email.

I am compiling a list and will add the information. Up to you.

Edit: Usuyami, empty your inbox so I can PM you, lol.
 
Inbox emptied.

Here's the original member list:

Battlefield 3 #3 ($16.80)
1) bill123 PAID (informed me he couldn't get in)
2) jlazenby1 PAID
3) likeme PAID
4) llopez13 PAID
5) rams81 PAID
 
[quote name='WV Matsui']To start a pm via mobile:

Clck on an old pm
Delete that persons name
Enter the new name
Change the subject
Type your message
Hit send!

Viola!


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Ps meek never checks his damn pm box....even when he asks people to pm him! :p[/QUOTE]no shit?! Thanks man. That makes my life so much easier
 
[quote name='charles']This just seems like an unneccessary hassle; you're assuming that every single account out there has one member who is evil and has been plotting and waiting till today to take your slots...

Boogie woogie! I'm the bad egg who' s going to get rich with your $2 share!! Just saying, aside from badman and a couple of others, this community is full of trustworthy people.

Sorry if I sound whiny, just having to deal with 8 accounts that have had their passwords changed has made me cranky. Not to mention how little protection this provides; I could just get the new password, sell it to someone else, that guy messes it all up, and you still have no way to tell who did it[/QUOTE]

Look I don't see what the hassle is. When you need to download something, you pm the host. Get a personal password (so if something happens the host knows you did it). If you want to resell it. Give the hosts contact information so they can ask him whenever there is a problem.. The thing is the password is only needed when you download the game. After that it is only needed again if you reinstalls the game/ sells it. So how hard is it to contact the host when you need to do that? Buyers and resellers are naive if they don't include/ ask for the host info.. There are indeed just 5% idiots who do that. But that is enough to cause the host hours of work trying to get it back.. Worst case is if scammer deactivates all accounts and activates 5 so even if you have the account back, you need to wait 6 months.. Who likes that scenario?
 
Wow, that BF3 group Usuyami hosted is gonna be interesting. Someone definitely went towards the darkside.

EDIT: Zuttasoxx, there's a bigger problem than scammers. Look at the thread, haha.
 
[quote name='TurkFebruary']Got another account to add to the list:

[email protected][/QUOTE]

I have personally reset the password. I did NOT change this. Someone according to the email changed it at about 7 am this morning. I gave the information and the email password to Bill123 as he had the most feedback. He can help in the future as I have sold off my share. Bill123 has access to the email now, so if it gets changed he can now change it back.
 
[quote name='Zuttasoxx']Look I don't see what the hassle is. When you need to download something, you pm the host. Get a personal password (so if something happens the host knows you did it). If you want to resell it. Give the hosts contact information so they can ask him whenever there is a problem.. The thing is the password is only needed when you download the game. After that it is only needed again if you reinstalls the game/ sells it. So how hard is it to contact the host when you need to do that? Buyers and resellers are naive if they don't include/ ask for the host info.. There are indeed just 5% idiots who do that. But that is enough to cause the host hours of work trying to get it back.. Worst case is if scammer deactivates all accounts and activates 5 so even if you have the account back, you need to wait 6 months.. Who likes that scenario?[/QUOTE]


Not much hassle when YOU'RE the one doing the changing!

But meh whatever, guess I'll have to live with this....hope to eventually track down all the hosts
 
[quote name='Usuyami']Inbox emptied.

Here's the original member list:

Battlefield 3 #3 ($16.80)
1) bill123 PAID (informed me he couldn't get in)
2) jlazenby1 PAID
3) likeme PAID
4) llopez13 PAID
5) rams81 PAID[/QUOTE]

you pm'd each of these guys or shall i?
 
[quote name='iwarboY']you pm'd each of these guys or shall i?[/QUOTE]

No need to PM anyone. I want the clown who thought they were really going to get a free account to PM me.
 
[quote name='Zuttasoxx']Look I don't see what the hassle is. When you need to download something, you pm the host. Get a personal password (so if something happens the host knows you did it). If you want to resell it. Give the hosts contact information so they can ask him whenever there is a problem.. The thing is the password is only needed when you download the game. After that it is only needed again if you reinstalls the game/ sells it. So how hard is it to contact the host when you need to do that? Buyers and resellers are naive if they don't include/ ask for the host info.. There are indeed just 5% idiots who do that. But that is enough to cause the host hours of work trying to get it back.. Worst case is if scammer deactivates all accounts and activates 5 so even if you have the account back, you need to wait 6 months.. Who likes that scenario?[/QUOTE]
I'm part of the "5%", never asked who the hosts of accounts were when I bought a slot, and as host, I only asked the group members to tell me recently...
 
[quote name='Usuyami']No need to PM anyone. I want the clown who thought they were really going to get a free account to PM me.[/QUOTE]

They're all regulars. I can't wait to see what becomes of this. 2 quick reactivations and someone gets the short-end for 6 months. People doing this don't need to outright steal the accounts.
 
[quote name='Heavyd814life']Just like the Splinter Cell group. It is so sad to see regulars lose all sense of morality for a few dollars.[/QUOTE]

i'd like to vote and say our shares only circulate within our side group. for awhile anyway. at least the weight would be lighter and we'd catch this fucktard in a jiff
 
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