CAG PSN Gamesharing #9 - Find/Create a Gameshare Group and Gameshare FAQ

changing the password first before resetting is worthless? No. We aren't speaking about what you're speaking about.
Please do the test:

1. Create dummy account

2. Download any demo (demos are licensed too)

3. Activate on first console

4. Change password

5. Turn the activated console into sleep mode

6. Reset

7. Turn on console and go to the profile = you are still signed in, but can do nothing

7a. Login on the second console and the first will receive "another user signed in". How? The password has been changed.

8. License lost

Changing emails gives the same result. On 2.50 phantom checks are most likely random, otherwise all of them should be lost.

 
^ Why would you log onto the account thats been deactivated though?

Log out second it starts to download and never log back in

 
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^ Why would you log onto the account thats been deactivated though?

Log out second it starts to download and never log back in
After shutdown you may go to the stiff account, accidentally, for example. That test shows the rest mode > access data.

 
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what if Sony is testing a new way to deactivate just with some accounts and then it will go over everything? it makes sense, if you deactivate your console, then next time that console get internet access, itself check all licenses.
The solution it will be staying offline forever :eek:
 
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ah ive got it setup where it always signs into my personal account
That was subject of another test (switch user, sleep mode for 12h and "accidentally" back to deactivated account). License lost.

what if Sony is testing a new way to deactivate just with some accounts and then it will go over everything? it makes sense, if you deactivate your console, then next time that console get internet access, itself check all licenses. The solution it will be staying offline forever :eek:
That is what I'm afraid most. I hope the license check is only a glitch...

 
Looking for a Watch Dogs ps4 share

As for ps4 phantoms only 100% safe method disconnect your ps4 from the internet... and wait til next firmware and hope its fixed... (install it from usb stick), but anyways no new reports of lost phantoms today it seems?!

 
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FYI: I have three phantoms, BF4, BF4 Premium and NFS Rivals. They're still working but I didn't use rest mode with the new suspend option and I haven't touched my settings.

 
Frankly since all my phantoms still work I'm afraid to change any settings. Have been using a combination of rest mode, suspend/resume, and power down since the update. Automatic save upload is off, and automatic update is on (though no phantoms have updated since the new firmware.)

 
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If it takes disabling PS4 settings for phantoms to work okay then that option will be literally dead to many people.

Can only see timeshares doing well and cross -buys

 
It is a very odd (and unfortunate) situation what has been going on with the phantoms, but just as a comment of my situation I must say that I have two phantoms in my PS4 console, one with a single game, the other with several games and both of them are fine (as of now), both times I did logged of / changed password / turned off after completely downloaded and installed the games (updates and stuff as well) I have all default settings in my console (never changed the auto updates/upload files thing) and I just recently left my console on rest mode for several hours to download GTAV... although I've never left it in rest mode for more than 12 hours.

 
Just realized that my Battlefield Hardline is a phantom.  Normally go into rest mode so that I can charge my controller and my cloud backup doesn't work because my main account is being shared and isn't set to primary.  Did notice that the last update fail so had to manually run the update.

 
Just realized that my Battlefield Hardline is a phantom. Normally go into rest mode so that I can charge my controller and my cloud backup doesn't work because my main account is being shared and isn't set to primary. Did notice that the last update fail so had to manually run the update.
This is also my case... I don't know if this is what saved us

 
Just realized that my Battlefield Hardline is a phantom. Normally go into rest mode so that I can charge my controller and my cloud backup doesn't work because my main account is being shared and isn't set to primary. Did notice that the last update fail so had to manually run the update.

This is also my case... I don't know if this is what saved us
Almost the same here.

My main account is an EU account and my plus is on a seperate US account (which I only us to download plus games).

 
One test:
 
Play online in two consoles with the same account. in the first a phamton account, the resell in the other console. if one is locked, the online access makes license checkout.
 
For sale (all are PS3):
Flash Sale Phantoms
Group 1: Selling three phantoms for $1.50 each!!
Tokyo Jungle 
Game of Thrones 
Eat Lead: The Return of Matt Hazard 
Matt Hazard: Blood Bath and Beyond 
Heavy Fire: Shattered Spear 
Heavy Fire: Afghanistan 
The Expendables 2 Videogame 
Narco Terror 
Galaga Legions DX 
Dead Nation 
Ferrari The Race Experience 
Zeno Clash II 
 
Group 2: ONE phantom left for $1.75!!!!
PAC-MAN® Championship Edition DX+ Full Version 
Puzzle Agent
Texas Cheat'em 
Bejeweled 3 
Zuma 
Who Wants To Be A Millionaire 
Who Wants To Be A Movie Millionaire 
Sam & Max: Beyond Time and Space - Full Season 
Rock of Ages 
Babel Rising
Sacred Citadel 
NOBY NOBY BOY 
 
PHANTOM OF MY MAIN X2-----TONS OF STUFF!!! (PS3 only, NO PS4 or VITA included) Hard to gauge a price, shoot me offers. 120+ full games (not PS Plus games), sooo much DLC, PS1 and PS2 classics, PS Plus games,DLC, etc. from the past 4-5 years. Not looking to phantom PS4 side, not much there anyways.
PS3 Full Games
Battlefield 1943
Wheel of Fortune (PSN)
TV Show King
UNO
inFAMOUS
WipEout HD and Fury Add-on
Burnout Paradise Ultimate Edition
Magic Orbz (with DLC)
Shatter
Cuboid
Feeding Frenzy 2: Shipwreck Showdown
Price is Right (PSN)
X-Men (arcade)
Flow with Expansion
Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection
MLB 13 The Show Homerun Derby
The Walking Dead Season 2
The Wolf Among Us
Crysis 3
Enslaved: Odyssey to the West Premium Edition
LIMBO
rain
Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon
DiveKick
Cloudberry Kingdom
Castle Crashers
Renegade Ops
Droplitz
Alien Breed Trilogy
Max Payne 3 Ultimate Edtion
Midnight Club LA Complete Edtion
Flower
Castlestorm Complete Edition
Super Motherload
Velocity Ultra
Burnout Crash!
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit (with all DLC)
Need for Speed Most Wanted
R.I.P.D the Game
Need for Speed The Run
God Mode
inFAMOUS Festival of Blood
Catherine 
Trine 2
Worms Revolution (with some DLC packs)
Superfrog HD
Alien Breed
GTA IV Complete Edition
Saints Row 2
Just Cause 2 Ultimate Edtion
Lara Croft and the Guardians of Light
Shank 2
FIFA Street
Outland 
Call of Juarez Gunslinger
Mad Riders
Shoot Many Robots
CellFactor: PsychoKinetic Wars
I Am Alive
Flashback
The Amazing Spider-Man (with DLC)
CSI: Fatal Conspiracy
Flying Hamster
Jurassic Park (TellTale)
Sam and Max: The Devils Playhouse
Braid
Tales of Monkey Island (TellTale)
Everyday Shooter
Blast Factor
Super Stardust HD
When Vikings Attack
Urban Trial Freestyle
Retrograde
Gotham City Imposters
Red Faction Battlegrounds
LEGO Lord of the Rings
American Mcgees ALICE
Hustle Kings
Sunflowers
Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (with Kat DLC)
Devil May Cry HD Collection
Elevator Action Deluxe
Space Invaders Infinity GENE
Guacamelee! (with DLC)
ArcaniA The Complete Tale
The Raven Legacy of a Master Thief
MX vs. ATV Alive
Mini Ninjas
Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
Peace Walker
Sons of Liberty
Snake Eater
God of War HD
God of War II HD
God of War Origins Collection (Chains of Olympus and Ghost of Sparta)
Dragon Age Origins
Mass Effect Trilogy 
Atomic Ninjas
Luftrausers
Sound Shapes (with every DLC except for one)
PS All Stars Battle Royale (with DLC)
Twisted Metal
MotorStorm RC Complete
Papa and Yo
Steamworld Dig
Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack
Hohokum
Marvel vs. Capcom Origins
Batman Arkham Asylum
Batman Arkham Origins
Soldner-X: Himmelssturmer
LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes
Crimsonland
Virtua Fighter 2
ToeJam and Earl
Rogue Legacy
Hotline Miami
Cel Damage HD
OlliOlli
Strength of the Sword 3
Thomas Was Alone
Resogun
Mirrors Edge
 
PS1 Classics
Metal Gear Solid
Metal Gear Solid VR Missions
Gex: Enter the Gecko
Crash Bandicoot
Crash Bandicoot 2
Crash Bandicoot 3
Crash Team Racing
 
PS2 Classics
Twisted Metal Black
Stuntman Ignition
Red Faction
Red Faction II
Grand Theft Auto III
Grand Theft Auto Vice City
GTA Vice City Stories
GTA Liberty City Stories
GTA San Andreas
 
PS3 DLC
The Last of Us
Online Pass
Weapons:
Enforcer
Variable Rifle
Tactical Shotgun
Spectre
Crossbow
Frontier Rifle
Burst Pistol
Jack of all Trades, Lone Wolf and Lucky Break Skills
Map Packs
Little Big Planet
Tons of Costumes, etc.
Little Big Planet 1 and 2
Tons of Costumes, Themes and Avatars
inFAMOUS 2
Tons of weapons, skins, soundtrack, etc.
Batman Arkham Asylum 
Play as the Joker Map Pack
Prey in the Darkness Map Pack
Borderlands 
Zombie Island
Underdome
Claptrap Revolution
General Knoxx
Borderlands 2
Mechromancer 
Psycho
Creature Slaughter Dome
Headhunter Packs:
Son of Crawmerax
Mercenary Day
Bloody Harvest
CE Pack (skins, keys, etc.)
Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack
Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack 2
Skins:
Mechromancer Supremacy 
Mechomancer Madness
Gunzerker Supremacy
Gunzerker Madness
Assassin’s Creed 2 Sequence 12 Battle of Forli
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 
LE and Online Pass
Armed and Dangerous Pack
Lamborghini Untamed Pack
Porsche Unleashed Pack
Super Sports Pack
Call of Duty Black Ops
World at War Zombies Map Pack
Rezurrection Zombies Map Pack
First Strike Map Pack
Call of Duty Black Ops II
Uprising Map Pack
Nuketown 2025  Map Pack
Vengeance Map Pack
Apocalypse Map Pack
Revolution Map Pack
Gran Turismo 5
2014 Corvette Stingray Final Prototype
Corvette C7 Prototype
Scion FR-S ‘12
Camaro SS Edge Special
Chrome Line Pack:
Shelby Cobra 427
Mercedes Benz 300 SL Coupe
Lamborghini Murcielago LP 640 
BMW M3 Coupe
Audi R8 5.2 FSI Quattro
Gran Turismo 6
Anniversary Pack (25 cars, Paint Pack, Racing Suit)
Battlefield Bad Company 2 Onslaught Mode
Mass Effect 3 
Omega DLC
From Ashes DLC
Leviathan DLC
Mortal Kombat
Online Pass
Compatibility Pack 1,2 and 3 (include costumes)
Classic Costumes:
Jade 
Ermac
LA Noire
Broderick Detective Suit
Sharpshooter Detective Suit
Slip of the Tongue Traffic Case
Reefer Madness Vice Case
Naked City Vice Case
Nicholson Electroplating Arson Case
Badge Pursuit Challenge
The Chicago Piano Machine Gun
Hustle Kings
Hex Crazy Table
Basement Crazy Table
Dragon Age II
The Black Emporium
Legacy
Mark of the Assassin
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
Teeth of Naros
Legend of Dead Kel
 
PS Plus Games
Pretty much everything from the past 4-5 years!! Tons of stuff.
 
Tons of Themes, Avatars, Soundtracks, Videos, Etc.
 
$2 - Dead Rising 2: Off the Record phantom 
$2 - Ratchet and Clank Into the Nexus/Quest for Booty phantom x2
$2 - Sly Cooper HD Trilogy phantom
$2 - Splinter Cell Blacklist Ultimate Edition phantom
$2 - Splinter Cell HD Trilogy phantom x2
$4 - Multi-game account: Pure/Split Second/Motorstorm Apocalypse/Zombie Driver HD/Crazy Taxi phantom 
^^^^^^^^Open to offers on all of the above^^^^^^^^
 
For Rent (all are PS4):
Game of Thrones Ep. 1, 2 and 3 - $0.50 per day 
Tales from the Borderlands Ep. 1 and 2 - $0.50 per day 
Need for Speed Rivals -  $0.50 per week
Surgeon Simulator AE Edition -  $0.25 per week
EA UFC  - $0.50 per week
Pinball Arcade Season 1 - $0.50 per week
Shadow Warrior - $0.50 per week
Sleeping Dogs Def. Edition - $1.00 per week
 
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Alright, posting this to update my phantom experiment:

Account 1: Demo of Citizens Of Earth. PS+ trial membership, all settings for auto download/backup turned OFF- Works

After sleep mode- Works

After shutdown- Works

Account 2: Demo of Crimsonland. PS+ trial membership, all settings for auto download/backup turned ON- Works

After sleep mode- Works

After shutdown- Works

Hm. Any other ideas?

*PS: (my opinion ENTIRELY! do not take this as anything more!) What a couple of shitty games!!*

 
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Alright, posting this to update my phantom experiment:

Account 1: Demo of Citizens Of Earth. PS+ trial membership, all settings for auto download/backup turned OFF- Works
After sleep mode- Works
After shutdown- Works

Account 2: Demo of Crimsonland. PS+ trial membership, all settings for auto download/backup turned ON-
After sleep mode-
After shutdown-
Try turning auto update on and leaving in rest mode for 12+ hours
 
I don't know if this is possible but here is a idea i had.

If it's possible to monitor the outgoing and ingoing internetsignals from the ps4 and compare it with a license check of a phantom.

You hook it up to pc  via router maybe? Then go on a phantom account and check what internet information is being sent and recieved.
Then leave the ps4 in rest mode for a long periode of time and check if the signals are also sent in rest mode. 
Could be Sony is now license checking all accounts on a ps4.

What is the word on the other gamesharing forum that is mentioned here from time to time

 
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I don't know if this is possible but here is a idea i had.

If it's possible to monitor the outgoing and ingoing internetsignals from the ps4 and compare it with a license check of a phantom.

You hook it up to pc via router maybe? Then go on a phantom account and check what internet information is being sent and recieved.
Then leave the ps4 in rest mode for a long periode of time and check if the signals are also sent in rest mode.
Could be Sony is now license checking all accounts on a ps4.

What is the word on the other gamesharing forum that is mentioned here from time to time
Probably not, considering it isn't happening to everyone

 
2 of my 3 phantoms are now locked. They weren't a couple of hours ago. My most recent phantom which I added 2 days ago had a passcode on the account. This PS4 doesn't have my main as primary on it, so no Plus features should be enabled. I feel for you all who lost big money phantoms. All 3 of mine only totaled about 10 bucks, so it's not a huge loss like some of you have experienced. 

 
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I'm scared to turn on my ps4!

My setup is as follows.

Start download of phantom.
Sign out of PSN via Network/Account Manager
Turn off PS4, not rest mode
Turn on PS4, Main is on auto login

So far, no locked phantoms.

Granted I haven't bought a phantom since 2.50

If I had to guess Sony may have done something on the backend that clears the first activation (phantom) license. Be it intentional or not, who knows!
 
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I'm scared to turn on my ps4!

My setup is as follows.

Start download of phantom.
Sign out of PSN via Network/Account Manager
Turn off PS4, not rest mode
Turn on PS4, Main is on auto login

So far, no locked phantoms.

Granted I haven't bought a phantom since 2.50

If I had to guess Sony may have done something on the backend that clears the first activation (phantom) license. Be it intentional or not, who knows!
This is how i do it too

 
I just sign into phantom. Start download. Sign out of phantom and sign into my account. Wait for download to finish and play. I only have two phantoms but they are still working as of tonight. Tlou and risk.
 
I'm scared to turn on my ps4!

My setup is as follows.

Start download of phantom.
Sign out of PSN via Network/Account Manager
Turn off PS4, not rest mode
Turn on PS4, Main is on auto login

So far, no locked phantoms.

Granted I haven't bought a phantom since 2.50

If I had to guess Sony may have done something on the backend that clears the first activation (phantom) license. Be it intentional or not, who knows!
Why turn it off after starting download? If your main automatically comes up, instead of choosing power off, choose log out of ps4 and it'll automatically take you to your main

 
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