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It's the only community I'm part of but if it gets shut down it gets shut down. Only share I have left is Hardline and if I get stuck with it I get stuck with it, no big deal...
What are you on about! What's this post suppose to mean? It would help if there were some sort of context for this out of the blue post. There hasn't been any complaining or drama for a decent while now and I can't see why you would bring this up now when everything seems pretty calm and stable. Aside from all the disappearing phantoms I don't see what would cause any headaches for the mods."OK, so gamesharing is the single biggest cause of headaches for mods regarding trading, even after we stated it was at your own risk. I've gotten approval from CheapyD to shut it down completely because of issues stemming from it.
I'm going to institute a 'one-strike' policy, instead of shutting down right now. If any mods hear of issues arising from gamesharing, thread will be closed and new rule will be added to trading rules banning it across the board."
I still won't think this was done purposefully by Sony until I see them confirm that they're doing it. But to be honest, it's not any of those things. I did things frequently that others have pinpointed as possible causes and had access to my Phantoms much longer than most.
How many phantom accounts do you/did you have? 8
How many of those accounts have been locked? 8
If you've had an account locked, what was the date you discovered this? Today
Do you use Spotify for PS4 often? No
Do you use rest mode often? Yes
Do you use suspend and resume often? Yes
Do you play on a lot of different profiles? No
Do you have PSN+? Yes
That is scary as hell. Looks like it's just me and iwarboy left.Well everyone, my luck has run out. I was trying to power through my phantoms, starting with Alien ISO. I was just playing, got booted to XMB and when I tried to restart, it was locked, followed by all my other phantoms.
So. I need an Alien ISO rental.
Also: the headache thing is a joke. I've had FAR less issues with sharing with this community than I have in another forum where access is gated. People turn this into what they want it to be. If you're here trying to be a business man and turn a profit, you're going to have headaches. If you're here trying to play games and be a part of the community....I imagine those headaches are very, very few and far between.
I still have my phantoms... So you are not aloneThat is scary as hell. Looks like it's just me and iwarboy left.
JUST THE TWO OF US WE CAN MAKE IT IF WE TRY (maybe.. probably not)
That is scary as hell. Looks like it's just me and iwarboy left.
JUST THE TWO OF US WE CAN MAKE IT IF WE TRY (maybe.. probably not)
Mine are still alive as well.I still have my phantoms... So you are not alone
Nailed it.Sony would not come out and mention this at all. No company would, that just draws attention to the whole process. In the past they didn’t bring it up when they made the switch from 5 to 2 slots, but this is hardly the same thing. This is people using a loophole to get an extra share out of an account, which is technically stealing. The switch from 5 to 2 slots was made bc they saw people were using all 5 slots… WHO HAS FIVE PS3’S? It was obvious something needed to be done in that case, just as it is in this case.
It has nothing to do with rest mode/suspend/resume. Many people have posted that they didn’t use this feature and it still happened. Hell it even happened to people mid-game. I personally was always shutting off my PS4 entirely once I heard about it. It has nothing to do with Spotify either, one app’s license being created wouldn’t affect another’s, but even then I have not touched spotify and I lost my phantoms.
You can theorize all you want but people getting phantoms deactivated mid-game proves that it’s not a software issue from some kind of setting that someone has set up a certain way. If that was the case, and it was based on settings, more people would have lost them initially. People losing phantoms without changing settings also proves this.
This is what we call a ‘ban wave” in other formats – a company will have IP addresses logged for accts and can easily remotely deactivate them. Microsoft bans for license transfer abuse, not impossible for Sony to see what PS4 the phantom acct was locked into and remotely deactivate it on their end. Even if you’re offline and then sign online, if they have that acct marked to deactivate from a certain IP, it will do it as soon as you sign online. Let’s be thankful they’re not going after our main accounts / killing the resell slots by banning the accts altogether. Traditional gamesharing may be dead but selling resells are not and neither is timesharing. We will be around for a while.
Yeah it seems like every PS4 is set to randomly check all licenses periodically.They just fixed their glitch. If you deactivate a licence from a system remotely because it is broken, stolen, sold, etc. Then that system will eventually check if its licences are still valid and it will disable those who are not. As simple as that.
Actually it's pretty interesting that you only lost 1 of 2 phantoms. Most people lose them all at once.I finally lost one of the two phantomized demos last night. At this point reporting it seems like beating a dead horse so that's as much as I'll say about it...
There are NO known issues with PS3 phantoms right now. The issue is only with PS4 phantoms.Has anyone had any issues with Phantoms for PS3?!
How long did it last?I finally lost one of the two phantomized demos last night. At this point reporting it seems like beating a dead horse so that's as much as I'll say about it...
i would lend it to you but I'm scared to get locked my only phantom (I'm offline since the update)Still looking for a rental of Alien for PS4. Lost my share in the middle of chapter 16. Just need to finish a few chapters and then do my speedrun. Won't need it too long.
YeahIs the acct activated on your ps4?
Nah it's working good for me.Psn slow for anyone else? Took almost two hours to download a 1.5gb file. Normally takes about 20 mins or so.
Absolutely. Some niche titles are probably too low interest for the timeshare guys to bother with and assuming they don't have online components, I'd still buy phantoms and just do it all offline.I still think there's gonna be a market for cheap Phantoms. Especially shorter experiences that can be completed in a week or so. Just take it offline, plow through and whatever happens after that is whatever.
It's going to be interesting to see how all this plays out over the next few months.
Cue Aces High - Iron MaidenThis is what we call a ‘ban wave” in other formats – a company will have IP addresses logged for accts and can easily remotely deactivate them. Microsoft bans for license transfer abuse, not impossible for Sony to see what PS4 the phantom acct was locked into and remotely deactivate it on their end. Even if you’re offline and then sign online, if they have that acct marked to deactivate from a certain IP, it will do it as soon as you sign online. Let’s be thankful they’re not going after our main accounts / killing the resell slots by banning the accts altogether. Traditional gamesharing may be dead but selling resells are not and neither is timesharing. We will be around for a while.
Don't think they would bother. The PS4 is set up differently with how it's licensing system works and how it's designed to be online all the time. I believe they would basically have to change how it worked on the PS3 to accomplish the same thing, which at this point in the PS3's life cycle probably isn't worth the time or dev hours.So if this Sony closing the loophole, wouldn't the PS3 phantoms be affected? I mean why leave one platform alone yet shut the door on another. Couldn't be that hard to program the PS3 to phone home right? I dunno. We will see after the next firmware.