[quote name='Nightskyre']Holy crap guys, double standard much?
God of War would still be a great game without Kratos, but you have to agree that being in that setting (that is, the greek setting, fighting the greek gods, etc) added "something to the game" (a comment you said about the Nintendo IP in Smash).
To quote CheapyD, "People love Metal Gear Solid, they love Snake" and yet, no comparison of MGS to Smash Brothers? What?
Again, to quote Cheapy, "In the Bizzaro world, and there's no such thing as Mario, and no such thing as Zelda...." I really don't want to think Cheapy has a bias against Nintendo, but he's not following his thought to a logical conclusion. In a world where Nintendo IP doesn't exist, this game doesn't exist!!!! We can't make these analyses in a vacuum! We all agree this game is fan service, and now we're trying to analyze the game without that which Nintendo is using to service fans? Does that even make sense? If these IP's didn't exist, Nintendo wouldn't have even made the Smash Brothers games, so what's the point in separating the IP from the game?
What is Ratchet and Clank without Ratchet and Clank? What is Jak without Jak? I mean, not to beat a dead horse, but at least be consistent with the argument.[/quote]
I agree.
Also SSBB distinguishes itself from other fighters in its game play (platform elements, simple controls, good 4 player, level selection that matters). Take an average WWII fps replace Nazis with covenant call it halo4 I'm sure it would sell gangbuster and get at least 90s.
Also people buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games not Nintendo characters (with the exception of pokemon and maybe Zelda) or else crap like starfox assault would have sold. Kind of like people buying an xbox or 360 for halo.