CAGcast #151: Xbox Vista

Wombat, congrats on your little one be able to crawl and climb so early. Both my boys started WALKING at 7 months! Our oldest never even crawled; just went straight to walking. Now that's odd and was frightening for us too. They were climbing up our hardwood steps to the second floor and back down at that point too and our stairs are laid out in a way that it was impossible to block them. So that was fun and terrifying for many months. So good luck keeping Sabrina in check now that she's mobile.:lol:
 
Cheapy, please stop having new songs that ruin old classic songs as the intro. They are awful

And I don't understand all the hate towards Vista. I have it and love it.
 
What story telling is there to be had with "Wall-E" being said 50 times with obvious loopholes like
not using a video feed to view Earth's condition, they base the whole exodus on a leaf.
And the live action Fred Willard was so awkwardly placed.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']Cheapy, please stop having new songs that ruin old classic songs as the intro. They are awful

And I don't understand all the hate towards Vista. I have it and love it.[/quote]

woohoo, Cheapy and Wombat pissed off the Sony crowd last week. i guess it's MS's turn now. can't wait to hear what the CAGcast says about Nintendo next week! :applause:
 
Great show as always guys.

I agree with the NXE it's slow for me, though it doesn't sound as slow compared to you though. I also agree with Wombat that when I go onto my friends list in avatar form if one of my friends is in a party it shows up with their gamertags. I don't care about their gamertags, I don't even know them so why would I want to see their names?

Other annoyances: Empty boxart when friends are playing, checking/adding microsoft points to your account takes ages, the "ghost" avatars showing up next to friends.

Oh also I like the idea of having the short video podcasts in the week hopefully something happens with that.
 
[quote name='dragon-x']Hi guys/girls,

1st of all regarding your "Xbox Vista" statement; CheapyD & Wombat, you guys are a little off.

......

There you have it, Jasper FTW![/quote]

Interesting story. I wonder if I'd have the same result if I did what you did on an external MU that I keep plugged into my console.
 
I don't agree with your comment the NXE is like vista because it's not an operating system , but it's a user interface. Also vista is not bad, i switched from mac to pc because i was tired of paying premium for hardware and software products. I'm currently enjoying vista and nxe and i'm using the awesome media sharing to stream my music and live shows. It all depends on persons experience with the product.
 
[quote name='maxim2boobles']I don't agree with your comment the NXE is like vista because it's not an operating system , but it's a user interface.[/QUOTE]
You missed the point completely.
 
[quote name='Walt Jay']Interesting story. I wonder if I'd have the same result if I did what you did on an external MU that I keep plugged into my console.[/quote]
I think it's worth a shot! just backup all your data before hand :bouncy:
 
I would really enjoy a CAG videocast telling us about the best deals of the week. Plus you can show us what kind of Japanese lunch/snack you are eating that week.
 
i hope the slamming of Xbox will appease the Sony guys. I myself haven't noticed a problem. This is probably b/c i have no friends :whistle2:(

Really though, great show. This makes hump days tolerable.
 
The NXE isn't slow for me. My console is from mid 2008 and its not one of the newest ones. Cheapy/Wombat whats the manufacture date for your console?

Great show otherwise, and please Cheapy have game themes for podcasts. Please. These song remixes are odd.
 
I thought it was funny when Wombat said, "It comes with Resident Evil 5, duh!" I direct your attention to the special Halo 360...

Also, regarding the NXE, I don't think it's an issue with the new dash. I think it's problems on the back end. The only time things lag for me are when I'm interacting with LIVE some how. Browsing marketplace content is especially slow for me. I think they need to get the service under control, not make any changes to the interface itself.
 
Great show as usual. I'll tell you one thing, I was really surprised how those nearly 2 hours passed so quickly while I was listening to this new episode.

Oh, and Wombat is right, Cheapy, go see Wall-E, it's an awesome movie!
 
I'm halfway through the cast and either Wombat is the most miserable person ever or his self-esteem is so low he's going to continue this schtick of "OH I SAID IT. LOOK AT ME!" attitude just for the attention every week. Opinions are fine and not everyone needs to think the same but being so obnoxious about it is just annoying. I can't believe anyone would record nearly 2 hours of podcast each week and at the end of it be proud that they were just a douchebag for everyone to hear. Whether it is for the attention or he really is that bitter, it's just pathetic. Each week the show seems to steer this way more and more, and I don't think you need to transparently create controversy to be interesting. Seemingly baiting people is off-putting. I'll continue to listen but it'd be nice if not everything was such a killjoy. Even if things don't change at least this post will make Wombat all giddy seeing his name.
 
Hey Wombat, you idiot! You missed the whole point of Flower, which isn't surprising from someone dumb enough to like the narratively terrible Wall-E.

The message to Flower has nothing to do with not wasting energy. It has to do with switching to renewable energy so that our energy-hungry lifestyles can co-exist with nature. If you stop powering your PS3 with coal and start powering it with the wind and the sun there's much less of a problem using so much energy to play videogames.

Are you that stupid or did you just never think about any of this for a second in your life? It's really embarrassing that you would gush about the empty, thoughtless environmental pandering in a trash movie like Wall-E on the same episode as you lay into Flower, which actually has a thoughtful, nuanced message.

Unless you're willing to admit that you didn't really play the game or didn't pay any attention while you did, because your view is completely understandable from someone who has heard about the game and maybe seen some videos (particularly the interviews with the creators who come off a bit like dirty hippies) but hasn't actually played it.
 
Good show as always, guys. As someone with the old-school fat DS, I'm half tempted to upgrade to the DSi. It's either that or getting a Lite when there is a price slash. I can understand the Lite to DSi debate, though.

The 50 Cent game looks like a rental. I've heard it's kind of like an arcade high-score dealie. I can get into that for short bursts at a time, nothing more.

And good old Wombat with the ShamWow and Mighty Putty drops. His fandom for the infomercial genre always makes me chuckle. Especially when you work in a store full of the damn things. (PS Wombat, be glad I didn't send you those Kinokis. What a rip that was.)

Anyways, keep up the good work. You guys help the drive to work and the one from work to school on Wednesday that much more entertaining.
 
Wombat is much better than the first half. Maybe it's just the feedback section that makes him come off as more bitter than usual. When he's not trying to be an ass I like hearing from him.
 
Good show, you know we need to hear more from the Internet Space Pimp (or the ISP) and Wombat you need a alter ego name as well.
 
[quote name='hpv']The message to Flower has nothing to do with not wasting energy. It has to do with switching to renewable energy so that our energy-hungry lifestyles can co-exist with nature. If you stop powering your PS3 with coal and start powering it with the wind and the sun there's much less of a problem using so much energy to play videogames.[/quote]

I hate to stick up for Wombat, but I think he pretty much said that.

[quote name='Wombat on CAGcast #151 (35min 10sec)']
The game is trying to get across a message on renewable resources and saving the environment....and the cusp of it is just that to use renewable resources and not waste electricity[/quote]

and

I'm playing this game that is essentially about using renewable resources on one of the three largest energy suckers in my entire house
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[quote name='CheapyD']I hate to stick up for Wombat, but I think he pretty much said that.



and[/quote]
good man cheapy, good man.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']And I don't understand all the hate towards Vista. I have it and love it.[/quote]Agreed. Maybe it had problems when it launched but evidently it's been updated since then. I got my new laptop this summer and it's been excellent.
 
Wombat trying to stir up controversy isn't funny itself, its all the assholes who get upset on the boards about it.
I find it hilarious.
 
I don't doubt that you are having problems with the New Guide, but mine works smooth like butter. The "Vista" monicker is overstatment, but really this is why I listen, poop stories and exaggerated opinions.

Love ya Cheapy and Wombat, don't change.
 
I appreciate CheapyD and Wombat for giving a warning before giving a spoiler in Flower.

I regularly listen to other game podcasts and the ListenUp (or 1UP yours) podcast ruined to big games for me: Killzone 2 and Flower.
 
Wombat hits the nail on the head! I was wondering when the CAGCast was going to blow the whistle on this garbage and finally the truth has been spoken:

The NXE Dashboard is SLOW AS HELL. It's like Microsoft took every single lag issue with the original dashboard and pinpointed all of them into the most used functions of XBL: The Friends List and Messaging!

I for one absolutely hate waiting 30-45 seconds each time I want to send a message or start a party. It's been months since NXE came out with no fix so apparently Microsoft considers this to be acceptable.

I second the motion of getting our voices heard through CAG. Cheapy, Wombat, please lead the way, and get Nelson on the CAGCast to deliver an explanation. :)

~HotShotX
 
I'm still trying to figure out if Cheapy likes the music he puts in the intro. Usually I only like one of the songs there. And regarding xbox vista, you guys are absolutely right, the 'hanging' that happens for about a minute when you do ANYTHING is so annoying. Hopefully they have people trying to smooth out the process but I imagine it could be months before we see the results of it.
 
[quote name='banodyne']Agreed. Maybe it had problems when it launched but evidently it's been updated since then. I got my new laptop this summer and it's been excellent.[/quote]

Yeah, it did, but quite frankly, XP sucked until SP 1 as well and turned out to be one of the best OS ever. All Windows OS suck at the beginning and then get better.

It's awesome now and I am glad I'm upgraded.

And Wombat and Cheapy, just to correct you, H.A.W.X. demo comes out this week on PS3.
 
If you're having trouble with the controls in The Conduit, then you're doing it wrong. I controlled it fine when I played it at PAX.

If you want to complain about controls, you should direct your complaint towards to illegitimacy of the dual stick scheme for shooters. Controls are very, very important. Red Steel and Far Cry: Vengeance, as bad as they were, control better than the best that dual stick has ever produced.

As far as graphics, they dont matter once you get to a mid-cycle PS2 level for 3D, and the SNES for 2D.
 
Love the title. I often joked to my friends about how the PS2 (and PS3?) could run Linux and that Microsoft should counter by giving the XBOX 360 the ability to run Windows ME. It'd be the most reliable product on the planet.
 
Metroid Prime was aces as far as fps control on the Wii and also represents how to do graphics on the Wii. Plus the game ran at 60fps. Other Wii developers take note.

YOu guys are scaring me with the Xbox Vista thing. I finally thinking about getting a 360 now that Jasper is out, but now....

YouTube took down the video because they thought Cheapie was just another whitie in Tai-land posing with young boys.
 
Xbox Vista, good one. Just give me 2 blades, one for my games and the other for Netflix and I'm good. I have a instant q recommendation, American Pimp, its a great documentary. A square can't understand the love of a pimp. Its a fav from my dvd collection, if you don't like this movie there is something wrong with you. Btw charging for a videogame podcast while the world is falling into a depression is just crazy. Nick and the rest of the former 1up guys might have to get real jobs. Watch my youtube channel, its free! Good show cheap asses.
 
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I wanted to make a comment and reply to Wombats comment about Braid.

I've heard a million times that Braid is pretentious and I'm sure it is, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game. I beat the game before it came out and when I finally bought it, I found out about the stars. As far as platform-puzzles go, this one is far over par.

Don't let the ego of the developer get in the way of a genuinely good game.
 
I'm going to have to agree with you on the Xbox Vista deal. At first, I was someone who didn't want to switch from the blades, but I eventually got used to the NXE. In the past month or so though, I've been wanting to headback to the blades again. The hang from the menu is rather jarring in terms of experience, especially for multiplayer. While the avatar loading isn't terrible (not perfect though), the fact that it forces me to sit there looking at other people in my friend's party before I can see their name is frustrating, especially considering that some of my friends frequently change their avatar's look.
 
Wombat, your new microphone sounds excellent! You sound so clear now that you actually sound some what different.


I hope your financial situation gets better soon!
 
[quote name='Wa-Keen']Wombat, your new microphone sounds excellent! You sound so clear now that you actually sound some what different.


I hope your financial situation gets better soon![/quote]

Yeh its super clear. I had to turn my iPod down a bit because you was louder. Even with you monitoring you bars :lol:
 
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This is regarding the Wii drama (CAGCast # 150 & 151) ...


First of all... I'm a huge fan of the show, and I'm a big fan of Mr. Wombat and CheapyD.
Your Podcast is hilarious yet very informative. CAGCast is the best video game Podcast out there in my opinion. I even have a CAG wrist band crying out loud, lol....

Anyways, I totally don't understand why Wombat had so many problems with The Conduit's controls. I have friends who also work in the video game industry and got the chance to play the game at N.Y Comic Con, and they gave me nothing but positive impressions from the game.

I was told that the game had impressive graphics (for a Wii game) and that the controls and graphics are way better than Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.

Did you know Wombat that The Conduit has custom control layout options, and even bounding box/dead zone customization for those of you who demand the "ultimate FPS control"?

Also CheapyD....... Gamers who refuse to play a Wii game because it doesn't look as good as a 360 game is just silly. Graphics aren't the most important thing in a video game. Gameplay always sells over graphics quality.

Just my 2 cents.......

Keep up the great work!
 
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[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']If you're having trouble with the controls in The Conduit, then you're doing it wrong. I controlled it fine when I played it at PAX.

If you want to complain about controls, you should direct your complaint towards to illegitimacy of the dual stick scheme for shooters. Controls are very, very important. Red Steel and Far Cry: Vengeance, as bad as they were, control better than the best that dual stick has ever produced.

As far as graphics, they dont matter once you get to a mid-cycle PS2 level for 3D, and the SNES for 2D.[/QUOTE]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (pauses to catch breath) HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
 
Honestly.. the Wii has been shoveling so much crap to their consumers that even a mediocre game gets a more than positive spin.. because it's not Jenga, Hannah Montana, or Hell's Kitchen. I have some hope for The Conduit, but I'm a realist. If the controls are there and the gameplay is fun, then no matter how the graphics are, I'll buy it and enjoy it... but if the controls suck and/or the gameplay sucks then I will not. I just know that the Wii doesn't look anywhere near the 360 or Ps3 graphically, so I'm not expecting good graphics, I'm expecting fun and a good experience.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']Yeah, it did, but quite frankly, XP sucked until SP 1 as well and turned out to be one of the best OS ever. All Windows OS suck at the beginning and then get better.

It's awesome now and I am glad I'm upgraded.

And Wombat and Cheapy, just to correct you, H.A.W.X. demo comes out this week on PS3.[/QUOTE]


Windows ME sucked.. and never got any better that is why XP came out quickly.. same with Windows 7, Vista will not get any better.. so Windows 7 is what Vista should have been.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']If you're having trouble with the controls in The Conduit, then you're doing it wrong. I controlled it fine when I played it at PAX.

If you want to complain about controls, you should direct your complaint towards to illegitimacy of the dual stick scheme for shooters. Controls are very, very important. Red Steel and Far Cry: Vengeance, as bad as they were, control better than the best that dual stick has ever produced.

As far as graphics, they dont matter once you get to a mid-cycle PS2 level for 3D, and the SNES for 2D.[/quote]

I totally agree with I mostly play PC games and that doesn't stop me from enjoying games of any gen just because the graphics aren't as good. If some one is such a graphics whore, that a game if it came out just 3 years ago people would have gushed over how it looked that's fine.
But to complain about FPS controls on a wii the one place where the wii really shines in gaming. That's like saying nobody would want to date a porn star because they all have small boobs and are so chaste.
 
Every console has problems this generation. Cheapy is right on with the sub-par graphics, weekend diversion comment. I haven't used my Wii in months. The XBox Vista thing I can understand, but its not the friends list problems, for me its the marketplace. It takes minutes to load the link to download a demo of arcade game. It loads all the stupid backgrounds and other crap before the link. The PS3 has its near daily updates that takes forever to install before you can even play a game. This whole generation sucks.
 
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