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[quote name='Big_Pick_Zel']On the subject of buying American to save American jobs: This is a noble idea that unfortunately doesn't translate from idea to reality. Businesses desire efficiency as efficiency usually leads to increased profitability. If it's more efficient to ship a job to a country where labor is less expensive, such as China, then that's what will happen. On the surface this seems like a terrible thing, but that's because generally people only look at one side of it, oddly, which is the side of the "greedy" CEOs who are looking for nothing but profit. Well, I suppose they are, but are they the only ones who benefit from the outsourcing? In the show itself, the question was answered: the Xbox costs around $100 less being manufactured abroad than it would were it made here in the US. So consumers benefit by saving $100. Given there are many more Xbox consumers than people making Xboxes, the benefit to consumers is much larger than the hypothetical benefit to a hypothetical manufacturing sector based purely on the number of people who consume vs. the number who create. On the subject of deplorable work conditions in Chinese factories, there's really no excusing that. But in many third-world countries, what we consider "sweat shops" the locals consider "better than starving in a barren field." And shockingly most places that employ child labor look, to the children, much better than the alternatives, which are often begging or prostitution. It would be great if everyone in the world were subjected to the same conditions as we are used to, but in many cases when we approach these situations from the point of view of "American living in America," we don't see the alternatives to what we perceive as abhorrent are actually the lesser of two evils by an incredible margin.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but the question is who cares? Are you really into world peace? Are you going to go to China and save children there?
I challenge you to read "The Upcoming China Wars" or "Death By China"
then try to re-make that same argument. Currency manipulation and death by Chinese products like dry-wall. I fear it is you who doesn't see all sides of the argument. Wait until you coat your house with lead-based paint or swallow boric acid thinking it's Ativan. You really need to ask yourself are you willing to die for a few dollars?
I know that may sound harsh, but what do you think freedom of trade really means? China is supplying about 98% of our goods. This is perfectly imbalanced. In order to export any goods the manufacturer must by stocks fulfilled by the Chinese govt and kept in American businesses. The government supplements these bonds so much that the govt itself would become bankrupt if so many new businesses weren't supplying money everyday for them to re-use. This means China owns most of our buisnesses and those nasty CEO's and also our governemnt itself is a slave to Chinese demands. What happens when China says we will pull our money out of American buisnesses and cause a depression? The president says oh PLZ! PLZ! keep invested here we cannot upset you! Obama even ran part of his campaign on standing up to China and he has universally failed. He is not the one who started it though so he shouldn't be a scapegoat.
Like I said, read the books that have been thoroughly researched and make that same argument again.
Yeah, but the question is who cares? Are you really into world peace? Are you going to go to China and save children there?
I challenge you to read "The Upcoming China Wars" or "Death By China"
then try to re-make that same argument. Currency manipulation and death by Chinese products like dry-wall. I fear it is you who doesn't see all sides of the argument. Wait until you coat your house with lead-based paint or swallow boric acid thinking it's Ativan. You really need to ask yourself are you willing to die for a few dollars?
I know that may sound harsh, but what do you think freedom of trade really means? China is supplying about 98% of our goods. This is perfectly imbalanced. In order to export any goods the manufacturer must by stocks fulfilled by the Chinese govt and kept in American businesses. The government supplements these bonds so much that the govt itself would become bankrupt if so many new businesses weren't supplying money everyday for them to re-use. This means China owns most of our buisnesses and those nasty CEO's and also our governemnt itself is a slave to Chinese demands. What happens when China says we will pull our money out of American buisnesses and cause a depression? The president says oh PLZ! PLZ! keep invested here we cannot upset you! Obama even ran part of his campaign on standing up to China and he has universally failed. He is not the one who started it though so he shouldn't be a scapegoat.
Like I said, read the books that have been thoroughly researched and make that same argument again.
ing human being?
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