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Shit that sucks for dallas right now I would have used a few other gamer tags to squat for the advance.

Also the cb tag this year was just under/over 14 million for one of my guys (I signed him not tagged). But I like how you think n8
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Just going to speak openly on this. Personally, I hate this concept. I know people have questioned if it's a glitch in the game...but I have to wonder if certain players are just coded that way...or if it's just randomly decided that a player just wants to "test free agency".

To me, I feel like this stuff SHOULD just be the risk of trading for a player in the final year of his contract. I don't like what the other league does with the exclusive negotiating, and giving people free claim to a player no matter what. I honestly don't understand why you couldn't franchise tag him. The only thing I could think of is if his Franchise Tag salary exceeded your cap space (not sure what the tag salary is for a CB, but when I was looking at my QBs...it was like $16M...which is absurd).

And also...I can't do a whole lot about this because as of now, the Rams and 49ers are CPU controlled...and the Rams have already made an offer on Revis.[/QUOTE]

I have nearly 60 million in cap space, so it wasn't that. Right now, there are offers from the Rams and Broncos.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']Also wow there aren't many FA's.

Also SF witten is off limits remove your bid on him.[/QUOTE]

Can't...SF is a CPU team for the time being.

[quote name='GamerDude316']So the maximum years you can offer is what the player asks for, can we get an official from the commish statement on minimum years? I feel like since some teams have cap room theyre just gonna swoop in with a loaded one-year deal on a player and given how AI logic is, I'd rather not see that.[/QUOTE]

But is a front loaded (ie. one year deal) even a concern? The idea behind limiting contract length was that the long deals would allow people to only pay top players small salaries for the first 2-3 seasons. Paying one player a huge salary for one season seems like it would handicap that team pretty badly. For that matter, do we know that a player is more likely to accept a one year, $25M deal instead of a 5 year, $100M deal?
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']Shit that sucks for dallas right now I would have used a few other gamer tags to squat for the advance.

Also the cb tag this year was just under 14 million for one of my guys (I signed him not tagged). But I like how you think n8[/QUOTE]

Why didn't Dallas re-sign them during the exclusive period? He re-signed some of his guys like Ware, Ratliff, and Carr.
 
Some of them didn't negotiate with him. Either way they were off limits.

Dark Rider's old list:
Jason Witten
DeMarcus Ware
Brandon Carr
Tyron Smith
Anthony Spencer
Sean Lee
Miles Austin
Morris Claiborne
Jay Ratliff
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']
But is a front loaded (ie. one year deal) even a concern? The idea behind limiting contract length was that the long deals would allow people to only pay top players small salaries for the first 2-3 seasons. Paying one player a huge salary for one season seems like it would handicap that team pretty badly. For that matter, do we know that a player is more likely to accept a one year, $25M deal instead of a 5 year, $100M deal?[/QUOTE]

Revis will only take a total value 1 year contract of $11.99M anyway. If someone offered that, they would lose to someone who offered a multi year deal.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']
Jason Witten
Anthony Spencer
Miles Austin
Morris Claiborne[/QUOTE]

Those 4 are the only ones left in the pool
 
Staticz is staying in the league i know this for fact... also n8 he sent u a trade when u were on vacation not sure which account he sent it to or if he sent it correctly but if u could let me know so i could either fix it or know that u got it that would be great thanks.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']



But is a front loaded (ie. one year deal) even a concern? The idea behind limiting contract length was that the long deals would allow people to only pay top players small salaries for the first 2-3 seasons. Paying one player a huge salary for one season seems like it would handicap that team pretty badly. For that matter, do we know that a player is more likely to accept a one year, $25M deal instead of a 5 year, $100M deal?[/QUOTE]


We dont know that, but we know EA has screwed up a great many things this year already and this may be yet another. You do want this to be like the NFL right? Nobody in the NFL would accept the 1 year deal over the 5 (except for aged players but theyre not looking for 5 years either).
 
Also since the CB pool is slim the following are up for trade:
Houston: 92 man 76 zone 85 prc 88 prs 93 spd
Bentley: 93 man 86 zone 85 prc 92 spd
Williams: 89 mcv 87 zcv 78 prc 78 prs 90 spd
McGee: 91 mcv 88 zcv 83 prc 91 spd
Lacey 88 mcv 83 zcv 76 prc 87 spd
All over 75 awr
 
[quote name='Konfusion']I was under the impression that it was exact number of years. No maximum or minimum, only exact number. I thought that is how we did it last year.[/QUOTE]

Nope. It was the maximum. Not really sure why people are concerned about shorters contracts. If someone wants to present an argument for why they could be a problem, I'll listen. Otherwise, we're just speculating.

[quote name='perdition(troy']Shit that sucks for dallas right now I would have used a few other gamer tags to squat for the advance.

Also the cb tag this year was just under/over 14 million for one of my guys (I signed him not tagged). But I like how you think n8[/QUOTE]

Well, as long as Witten doesn't sign in the first week, the new SF owner can remove the offer. The really sucky part is he's not going to be able to afford all of those guys anyway. So, it's kind of hard to restrict all of them...not knowing which ones are just going to be unsignable anyway. Any way we do it, we're just going to have to make the best of a shitty situation.

[quote name='pitfallharry219']I have nearly 60 million in cap space, so it wasn't that. Right now, there are offers from the Rams and Broncos.[/QUOTE]

Weird. Like I said, I'm just talking out loud, but personally, the exclusive negotiating just seems lame. Obviously, I get your perspective on it. But I would like to have some kind of risk/reward for trading players in the final year of their deals. And like others have pointed out...you should be able to outbid people anyway.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']We dont know that, but we know EA has screwed up a great many things this year already and this may be yet another. You do want this to be like the NFL right? Nobody in the NFL would accept the 1 year deal over the 5 (except for aged players but theyre not looking for 5 years either).[/QUOTE]

Like I said, present an argument for how it gives those teams an advantage and I'll listen to it. But I don't believe making a policy change based on the principle "It could be bad" is a good idea.
 
Eh, the Revis situation is what it is. Obviously I'd like to have him back, but it's not like I'm unable to bid on him. If he rejects my obscenely large offer, fuck him anyway. I have contingencies in place.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Eh, the Revis situation is what it is. Obviously I'd like to have him back, but it's not like I'm unable to bid on him. If he rejects my obscenely large offer, fuck him anyway. I have contingencies in place.[/QUOTE]

I will be very interested to see who gets him. I too offered him an absurd amount of money.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Like I said, present an argument for how it gives those teams an advantage and I'll listen to it. But I don't believe making a policy change based on the principle "It could be bad" is a good idea.[/QUOTE]

if they have a roster size of say 45 and $30 mil in cap room, they could offer a 1 year deal for 12 mil on any 80+ overall and he'd probably sign with them over a 4 year deal paying what that player is asking for. That would still leave 18 mil in cap to sign for the other couple positions plus the draft. I'm all for good salary management being rewarded but that just seems cheap to me
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']if they have a roster size of say 45 and $30 mil in cap room, they could offer a 1 year deal for 12 mil on any 80+ overall and he'd probably sign with them over a 4 year deal paying what that player is asking for. That would still leave 18 mil in cap to sign for the other couple positions plus the draft. I'm all for good salary management being rewarded but that just seems cheap to me[/QUOTE]

But how many people only offer what the player is asking? If we're using history as a precedent...most people offer way more than what the player is asking. So, the idea that the person making the one year offer is likely to get the player is a bit flawed. I get your point. I just don't think it's such an egregious violation that it needs to be disallowed. The people with the most available money are always going to be able to sign the best players.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']
Well, as long as Witten doesn't sign in the first week, the new SF owner can remove the offer. The really sucky part is he's not going to be able to afford all of those guys anyway. So, it's kind of hard to restrict all of them...not knowing which ones are just going to be unsignable anyway. Any way we do it, we're just going to have to make the best of a shitty situation.[/QUOTE]

So what is the deal with the Cowboys players? Claiborne, Spencer, and Austin all have bids along with the CPU bid on Witten. Are we allowed to bid on them or not?
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']We aren't that had been established since the owner left. Those people obviously didn't read the thread.[/QUOTE]

Forgive me, but it hasn't been established. If we aren't allowed to bid on them, Nate hasn't said so yet. I have no problem removing my bids, but it needs to be a fact for me to do so. Originally, we weren't allowed to pick up Cowboys whom had been dropped. However, now that he's had a chance to resign them, nothing has been said. Feel free to prove me wrong, but they should be available for bidding.
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']Forgive me, but it hasn't been established. If we aren't allowed to bid on them, Nate hasn't said so yet. I have no problem removing my bids, but it needs to be a fact for me to do so. Originally, we weren't allowed to pick up Cowboys whom had been dropped. However, now that he's had a chance to resign them, nothing has been said. Feel free to prove me wrong, but they should be available for bidding.[/QUOTE]

He hasn't had a chance to resign them though.
 
I think no matter what they belong to the cowboys unless the owner says he doesnt want them since they would have been under contract if the old owner hadnt dropped the players
 
[quote name='Yo Soy El Tiger']I will remove the bid in the morning since I will be taking over san fran...ill be home around 5am est[/QUOTE]

since we advanced before u joined the league u wont be able to remove the bids or place bids until the next advancement. u also didnt have the chance to bid on ur own FA's before they were released to an open pool for everyone to place bids on but since ur taking the 49ers im sure blade did that before he left
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']if they have a roster size of say 45 and $30 mil in cap room, they could offer a 1 year deal for 12 mil on any 80+ overall and he'd probably sign with them over a 4 year deal paying what that player is asking for. That would still leave 18 mil in cap to sign for the other couple positions plus the draft. I'm all for good salary management being rewarded but that just seems cheap to me[/QUOTE]

I dont get what you're saying... that same person could offer 12 mil x 4 years totalling 48 mil..and it would actually count LESS against the cap this year. I'd think ppl that bid 1 year instead of the years askedbhai for will hurt their chances
 
[quote name='DVO21']I think no matter what they belong to the cowboys unless the owner says he doesnt want them since they would have been under contract if the old owner hadnt dropped the players[/QUOTE]


I def agree with this. If a CPU team signs them, somebody could take over that team and drop the player. Even if the cowboys dont win the bid in Free Agency, they should be allowed to sign their player for the 1 year contract after the draft.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Tuck was the same situation as Revis and Romo. He was traded in the last year of his deal, so there wasn't a chance for Blade to negotiate.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for clarifying. I just remembered him saying something about signing most/all of his FA's other than him
 
49er's trade block:
WR Wes Welker (85)ovr
WR Randy Moss (83) ovr
CB tarell Brown (83) ovr
CB Chris Culliver (81) ovr
QB Andy Dalton (81) ovr

looking for:
LE/RE-(80) or above
DT (80) or above
WR (76) or above
RB (80) or above

Draft Picks are always up there as well....IF your interested i can give complete stats for players but figured it would be easier for you guys to look so you know how they fit in your scheme
 
[quote name='Yo Soy El Tiger']49er's trade block:
WR Wes Welker (85)ovr
WR Randy Moss (83) ovr
CB tarell Brown (83) ovr
CB Chris Culliver (81) ovr
QB Andy Dalton (81) ovr

looking for:
LE/RE-(80) or above
DT (80) or above
WR (76) or above
RB (80) or above

Draft Picks are always up there as well....IF your interested i can give complete stats for players but figured it would be easier for you guys to look so you know how they fit in your scheme[/QUOTE]

Just so you know Wes Welker is at least 1/2 bonus in his salary so you are going to take a huge hit dealing him. Not sure why you are dealing the CBs, I had the #1 pass defense last year. Moss and Dalton probably won't make a difference dealing them. CBs are way more important on defense then the LE/RE or DT, also you already have Smith at RE so you only really need a starting LE. If you run a 3-4 you only have 1 DT out there and that's not even in every package, so you only should really need backups. Mendenhall was working pretty good for me up the middle and using James for outside runs, and I got both of their carry pretty high. Most you should need to do is rebuild backups through the draft and try to get 1-2 starters through free agency. Just trying to help you cause I know the team so well, not trying to tell you what to do but give a little advice.
 
[quote name='Yo Soy El Tiger']49er's trade block:
WR Wes Welker (85)ovr
WR Randy Moss (83) ovr
CB tarell Brown (83) ovr
CB Chris Culliver (81) ovr
QB Andy Dalton (81) ovr

looking for:
LE/RE-(80) or above
DT (80) or above
WR (76) or above
RB (80) or above

Draft Picks are always up there as well....IF your interested i can give complete stats for players but figured it would be easier for you guys to look so you know how they fit in your scheme[/QUOTE]

I threw you an offer tiger. Look at my team and counter if you want! Lets make a deal.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']Just so you know Wes Welker is at least 1/2 bonus in his salary so you are going to take a huge hit dealing him. Not sure why you are dealing the CBs, I had the #1 pass defense last year. Moss and Dalton probably won't make a difference dealing them. CBs are way more important on defense then the LE/RE or DT, also you already have Smith at RE so you only really need a starting LE. If you run a 3-4 you only have 1 DT out there and that's not even in every package, so you only should really need backups. Mendenhall was working pretty good for me up the middle and using James for outside runs, and I got both of their carry pretty high. Most you should need to do is rebuild backups through the draft and try to get 1-2 starters through free agency. Just trying to help you cause I know the team so well, not trying to tell you what to do but give a little advice.[/QUOTE]

With running a balanced offense i figure i only need 2 WR and 2 TE...and seeing how im sure alot of people would want wes welker i would be fine with dealing him if the price was right....i like to run a 4-3..so getting another defensive linemen would be key to my scheme...also i dont need 4 CBs and looking around the league alot of people dont have 1 CB over an 80 and i have 4 so again good trade bait....
 
[quote name='Yo Soy El Tiger']With running a balanced offense i figure i only need 2 WR and 2 TE...and seeing how im sure alot of people would want wes welker i would be fine with dealing him if the price was right....i like to run a 4-3..so getting another defensive linemen would be key to my scheme...also i dont need 4 CBs and looking around the league alot of people dont have 1 CB over an 80 and i have 4 so again good trade bait....[/QUOTE]

I'm just saying the loss on him is going to be substantial, also in his top scheme he is a lower 90 WR, and you might want to actually check his contract. Stannard is the second defensive linemen and he was a good player, meaning you should only need backups. You realize CBs are the most important defensive position in Madden. The reason I had 4 good CBs is because so many mismatches happen when corners aren't lined up on WRs or TEs. Hence, why I had the #1 pass defense in the league. 70-80% of the plays you are going to see run are from the shotgun. Like I said do what you want, but the team most likely will take some hits for it, I know the team inside and out. Maybe you know football really well, but you also need to know Madden very well which are 2 different things. Oh well, guess I am just going to have to let it go.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']I'm just saying the loss on him is going to be substantial, also in his top scheme he is a lower 90 WR, and you might want to actually check his contract. Stannard is the second defensive linemen and he was a good player, meaning you should only need backups. You realize CBs are the most important defensive position in Madden. The reason I had 4 good CBs is because so many mismatches happen when corners aren't lined up on WRs or TEs. Hence, why I had the #1 pass defense in the league. 70-80% of the plays you are going to see run are from the shotgun. Like I said do what you want, but the team most likely will take some hits for it, I know the team inside and out. Maybe you know football really well, but you also need to know Madden very well which are 2 different things. Oh well, guess I am just going to have to let it go.[/QUOTE]
haha im not saying your wrong at all i know you know this team and you really DID have a good team...its built well....i play alot of madden and the way i play you have some holes that i would like to correct so it fits my play style...3 CB are more then enough when i go 4-3 or nickel (moving the third CB to back up SS)
 
[quote name='Yo Soy El Tiger']haha im not saying your wrong at all i know you know this team and you really DID have a good team...its built well....i play alot of madden and the way i play you have some holes that i would like to correct so it fits my play style...3 CB are more then enough when i go 4-3 or nickel (moving the third CB to back up SS)[/QUOTE]

Aight cool, we'll see how you do.
 
alright to be clear...i am taking trade offers for the above trade block...i want everyone to know that i will not make a deal until i am able to look at free agents/scouting

i have received trade offers for moss....nothing just intrest
welker- a deal is pending per me seeing free agents/scouting and trade comm. response
clulliver-slightly more intrest...no specifics
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']I'm surprised this dude is trying to blow up the 49ers already. It's his team, so he can run it how he wants. It's just odd to me.[/QUOTE]

have you ever played with me?
do you know how i play?
do you know what the trades are?
Do you know what my holes are?

you may know the answer to one of these
 
[quote name='Docb9110']HUGE TRADE in the Works between Texans and 49ers. Tiger is reading through the proposal for us to send to the committe. Stay tuned![/QUOTE]

WE HAVE COME TO TERMS....

pending the trade committee response
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']I'm surprised this dude is trying to blow up the 49ers already. It's his team, so he can run it how he wants. It's just odd to me.[/QUOTE]

While I dont entirely disagree with this sentiment, I dont think having the previous owner coming in and scolding him for trying to make the team fit his playstyle is helpful either.

I 100% get the apprehension with new players making trades...but to be fair, it's not like Blade left the team in tact either. He traded Alex Smith, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Navarro Bowman, etc. Just not really sure how to restrict it without being unfair. Besides, that's what the trade committee is for.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']While I dont entirely disagree with this sentiment, I dont think having the previous owner coming in and scolding him for trying to make the team fit his playstyle is helpful either.

I 100% get the apprehension with new players making trades...but to be fair, it's not like Blade left the team in tact either. He traded Alex Smith, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Navarro Bowman, etc. Just not really sure how to restrict it without being unfair. Besides, that's what the trade committee is for.[/QUOTE]

I never claimed to be helpful. ;)
 
Could we possibly have an official comment from the commissioner about how we're handling the Cowboys free agents at time point in the offseason as well as going forward? I withdrew the one offer I had extended, but it appears some non-CPU teams still have offers
in place. Thanks in advance.
 
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