CAGLS: Madden 13 Gentlemen's League - We Finished! Thanks for Playing!

[quote name='pitfallharry219']Where did DVO acquire all this shit-talking ability from? It surely ain't coming from the playoff success he's had in this league.

Also, that gingerbread man is creepy as fuck.[/QUOTE]

Burn
 
[quote name='Blade3D']I'd rather CJ go up the middle then a chance to break a long run to the outside.[/QUOTE]

I have been known to break one off up the middle.

[quote name='pitfallharry219']Where did DVO acquire all this shit-talking ability from? It surely ain't coming from the playoff success he's had in this league.

Also, that gingerbread man is creepy as fuck.[/QUOTE]

LOL...I know right. It's like Spider-Man impregnated an apple pie and gave birth to that thing. :bouncy:
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']I have been known to break one off up the middle.
[/QUOTE]

In my opinion it's much easier to do to the outside, and I'd rather take the risk up the middle.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']In my opinion it's much easier to do to the outside, and I'd rather take the risk up the middle.[/QUOTE]

Oh, we're talking about Madden? Well, this is uncomfortable...
 
[quote name='Blade3D']Oh...awkward...[/QUOTE]

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not to interrupt my favorite topics ever (giving it to the tight end, breaking it up the middle and all that :cool:)....

In a score similar to their MLB counterparts the Rays and Braves, the Bucs edge out the CPU Falcons 12-10.

Atlanta scored on the opening drive on a Taiwan Jones TD run to make it 7-0. It stayed this way till with 35 seconds left in the first half, new Bucs sensation Bart Scott made himself known forcing a fumble recovered by Mark Barron. On the second play of the ensuing drive, Josh Freeman found VJax deep and he broke it the rest of the way for a a 73 yard score to tie it up. On the opening drive of the second half after taking a touchback, the Falcons offense sputtered as Jones ran 2 carries for -12 yards and on 3rd down Adrian Clayborn sacked Ryan in the endzone for a safety to make it 9-7 Tampa. The Falcons drove in the 4th quarter and kicked a 40 yd FG, but the Bucs answered with a long methodical drive. Doug Martin, although unable to get much of a ground game going pounded away at the D and VJax came up big with 2 key conversions, 1 on 4th down and then another on 3rd that put the Bucs in easy FG range and made Atlanta use up their timeouts. Connor Barth kicked an easy 21 yarder with 29 seconds left and Ryan couldnt get anything going on the last series.

for stats:

Josh Freeman 10/16 185 yds 1 TD 1 INT
Matt Ryan 10/11 97 yds 0 TDs 0 INTs

Doug Martin 16 carries 26 yds
Taiwan Jones 15 carries 41 yds 1 TD

Vincent Jackson 5 rec 152 yds 1 TD

Bart Scott led the Bucs D with 5 tackles and the FF. New addition Erin Henderson added a forced fumble of his own, as did Aqib Talib. Adrian Clayborn had the sack for a safety and rookie CB Brad Henry added a sack as well. Atlanta got an INT from CB Brent Grimes, and sacks from Ray Edwards and Will Moore.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Where did DVO acquire all this shit-talking ability from? It surely ain't coming from the playoff success he's had in this league.

Also, that gingerbread man is creepy as fuck.[/QUOTE]

last season i played with a team that didnt have the weapons i need to be successful this year is another story. i add 4 WRs to go along with aj green and my defense was much of an issue last year it was mainly the fact that i couldnt ever get much going on offense. we will just see what happens when we play. i havent changed any of my defense from last year my offense well its a whole new squad so if i get the same defense results this year as last year im confident that i can make the playoffs
 
So, a great game between N8 and I, I lost 13-10, but I have a pretty big beef with the league rules.

I know I'm the new guy and won't get any support on this, but I wanted to bring up the "Going for it on 4th" rules. In GameStyle, league rules say "play it like you're an NFL coach". Well, tied at 10 in the middle of the 3rd quarter, I hit a guy for a few yeards bringing up 4th and inches. N8 had just scored a TD to tie it, in pretty easy fashion, to start the half, and I figured he had found his groove and was gonna start shooting it out in the 2nd half. So I decided rather than punt the ball and probably go down 7 after his next drive, I'd try for the inch to gain some momentum back. Figured, if I miss, he'll have a better opprotunity to score, but he probably will anyway with the drive he had just set up with Chris Johnson. But then I am told I can't go for it, only because I'm in my own zone.

Is that really the only reason for the rule? I could find numurous occasions in the NFL where coaches have gone for it on 4th in their own zone. Is that all I have to do to meet the "requirements" of the league rule?

Again, I don't expect any support on my complaining, and I'm sure if I went back through the 300 pages of the thread, I'd find other conversations about it. But if that's the way the league works, I might not be the best fit.
 
Titans - 13
Dolphins - 10

The Titans escape South Beach with a narrow victory. Something just felt off with my team in this game. I feel like I wasn't used to playing with my starters, lol. Locker was overthrowing receivers. Receivers were dropping balls. CJ seemed like he was JUST short of breaking several runs. I figured out pretty quickly that if I gave Wpark time to throw, his two huge FA WR acquisitions would make me pay. I had to start sending pressure, and fortunately, I was able to get to Tannehill a few times.

We had one little hiccup in the 3rd quarter. On a 3rd and 5, Miami ran a draw, and one of my guys stopped it just short of the 1st down. Facing 4th and inches at his own 30 yard line, in a 10-10 game, Wpark chose a play that looked like a QB sneak. I paused the game to let him know that in that situation, going for it really isn't the right call. He didn't seem to have a problem with it, and punted the ball.

I had a 4th and 1 on the next drive at around the Miami 21. I thought about going for it, myself, but again, considered the situation, and the opportunity to take the lead with a field goal seemed like the right call. That ended up being the last score of the game. This game was mostly a defensive struggle, with only one turnover (Locker threw an INT). Miami fumbled twice but recovered both times. GG, Wpark. Definitely a close one.

Titans
Jake Locker - 7-14, 157 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT
Chris Johnson - 13 att, 85 yds, 1 TD
Jared Cook Jr - 2 rec, 68 yds
Kendall Wright - 2 rec, 27 yds
Derrick Morgan - 4 tackles, 3 sacks
Will Witherspoon - 4 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF
Pat Sims - 2 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF

Dolphins
Ryan Tannehill - 8-13, 146 yds, 1 TD
Jwan Gibson - 10 att, 29 yds, 1 rec, 20 yds
Jeremy Shockey - 2 rec, 30 yds
Greg Jennings - 2 rec, 56 yds, 1 TD
Mike Wallace - 2 rec, 26 yds
Richard Marshall - 5 tackles, 1 INT
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Titans - 13
Dolphins - 10

The Titans escape South Beach with a narrow victory. Something just felt off with my team in this game. I feel like I wasn't used to playing with my starters, lol. Locker was overthrowing receivers. Receivers were dropping balls. CJ seemed like he was JUST short of breaking several runs. I figured out pretty quickly that if I gave Wpark time to throw, his two huge FA WR acquisitions would make me pay. I had to start sending pressure, and fortunately, I was able to get to Tannehill a few times.

We had one little hiccup in the 3rd quarter. On a 3rd and 5, Miami ran a draw, and one of my guys stopped it just short of the 1st down. Facing 4th and inches at his own 30 yard line, in a 10-10 game, Wpark chose a play that looked like a QB sneak. I paused the game to let him know that in that situation, going for it really isn't the right call. He didn't seem to have a problem with it, and punted the ball.

I had a 4th and 1 on the next drive at around the Miami 21. I thought about going for it, myself, but again, considered the situation, and the opportunity to take the lead with a field goal seemed like the right call. That ended up being the last score of the game. This game was mostly a defensive struggle, with only one turnover (Locker threw an INT). Miami fumbled twice but recovered both times. GG, Wpark. Definitely a close one.

Titans
Jake Locker - 7-14, 157 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT
Chris Johnson - 13 att, 85 yds, 1 TD
Jared Cook Jr - 2 rec, 68 yds
Kendall Wright - 2 rec, 27 yds
Derrick Morgan - 4 tackles, 3 sacks
Will Witherspoon - 4 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF
Pat Sims - 2 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF

Dolphins
Ryan Tannehill - 8-13, 146 yds, 1 TD
Jwan Gibson - 10 att, 29 yds, 1 rec, 20 yds
Jeremy Shockey - 2 rec, 30 yds
Greg Jennings - 2 rec, 56 yds, 1 TD
Mike Wallace - 2 rec, 26 yds
Richard Marshall - 5 tackles, 1 INT[/QUOTE]

Yeah man, I'm upset about it, but it obviously wasn't the turning point of the game. I had other chances. Like I said in my Xbox message, it is what it is. I understand the rules are here to stop any over aggressive behavior, just felt like it could have gone either way. Good game in any case, made me feel like I can at least run with the league and won't get my ass destroyed every game.
 
[quote name='Wpark83']So, a great game between N8 and I, I lost 13-10, but I have a pretty big beef with the league rules.

I know I'm the new guy and won't get any support on this, but I wanted to bring up the "Going for it on 4th" rules. In GameStyle, league rules say "play it like you're an NFL coach". Well, tied at 10 in the middle of the 3rd quarter, I hit a guy for a few yeards bringing up 4th and inches. N8 had just scored a TD to tie it, in pretty easy fashion, to start the half, and I figured he had found his groove and was gonna start shooting it out in the 2nd half. So I decided rather than punt the ball and probably go down 7 after his next drive, I'd try for the inch to gain some momentum back. Figured, if I miss, he'll have a better opprotunity to score, but he probably will anyway with the drive he had just set up with Chris Johnson. But then I am told I can't go for it, only because I'm in my own zone.

Is that really the only reason for the rule? I could find numurous occasions in the NFL where coaches have gone for it on 4th in their own zone. Is that all I have to do to meet the "requirements" of the league rule?

Again, I don't expect any support on my complaining, and I'm sure if I went back through the 300 pages of the thread, I'd find other conversations about it. But if that's the way the league works, I might not be the best fit.[/QUOTE]

I hear what you're saying, but I don't think any coach would go for it on 4th down at their own 30 in a tie game in the 3rd quarter. To me, that's a call you make because it's Madden and QB sneaks are somewhat easy...not because it's football. Like I said, I had a 4th and 1 at YOUR 20 after that, and I could have decided to go for blood, and try to get the 7 point lead (which no one could deny wouldn't be tempting). But to me, the right football call was to take the 3 points and trust my defense considering it was a defensive battle and points were at a bit of a premium. Had you forced a 3 and out after that punt, I doubt you'd feel the same way.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']I hear what you're saying, but I don't think any coach would go for it on 4th down at their own 30 in a tie game in the 3rd quarter. To me, that's a call you make because it's Madden and QB sneaks are somewhat easy...not because it's football. Like I said, I had a 4th and 1 at YOUR 20 after that, and I could have decided to go for blood, and try to get the 7 point lead (which no one could deny wouldn't be tempting). But to me, the right football call was to take the 3 points and trust my defense considering it was a defensive battle and points were at a bit of a premium. Had you forced a 3 and out after that punt, I doubt you'd feel the same way.[/QUOTE]

Just my own $.02 on this:

I agree that in the 3rd quarter, no NFL coach would go for it there in a tie game at their own 30. But, we are playing with 5 minute quarter lengths so the middle of the 3rd quarter would mean theres about 7-8 minutes of actual game time left...I could see a couple coaches going for it on a 4th and inches at that point. It certainly wouldnt be a popular call and outside of Belichick it would be pretty rare to see a coach actually go for it, but I do think several coaches would at least bring the guys on the field and try to draw the defense offsides. Not really taking sides here since I see it both ways, but I do understand why you'd at least bring the offense on the field on a 4th and inches there.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']Just my own $.02 on this:

I agree that in the 3rd quarter, no NFL coach would go for it there in a tie game at their own 30. But, we are playing with 5 minute quarter lengths so the middle of the 3rd quarter would mean theres about 7-8 minutes of actual game time left...I could see a couple coaches going for it on a 4th and inches at that point. It certainly wouldnt be a popular call and outside of Belichick it would be pretty rare to see a coach actually go for it, but I do think several coaches would at least bring the guys on the field and try to draw the defense offsides. Not really taking sides here since I see it both ways, but I do understand why you'd at least bring the offense on the field on a 4th and inches there.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty much my mentality at the time. It's cool though. I stupidly used a time out to go back and select punt when i should have just taken the Delay of Game, looking back that was obviously my fault. But again, it didn't take away from the competitiveness of the game...and with the past N8 and I have in these leagues, I'm quite happy that we played what I felt was a pretty gentlemanly game.
 
[quote name='jza1218']God I suck at this game. Doesn't help when Madden decides to screw me left and right.[/QUOTE]

You got screwed pretty badly--two fumbles lost and some lucky INTs on my part. My defense frequently plays better than their stats--I had three straight shutouts last year at one point. And it's not my skill for sure, I barely make any adjustments.

Seahawks defeat Giants 31-0. 2 INT and two fumble recoveries greatly affect the outcome of this game, as I'd have to guess at least 17 of the points (maybe 24) came off of these turnovers, including the first two drives starting inside the 40. Lynch with 98 yds on the ground and newly-acquired Aaron Rodgers with 3 TDs along with a paltry 81 yards, and one ugly pick.
 
Got kicked again, each time it said due to excessive grieving on his part was up 13-0 a min or two left in the first half. I got another game to play for the other league, I can try this later.
 
Remaining games:

Jets vs Bills
Chargers vs Broncos
Packers vs Bears
Vikings vs Panthers
Cardinals vs Cowboys
49ers vs Steelers (having connection issues)
Lions vs Raiders (tomorrow 5 PM CST)
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']Just my own $.02 on this:

I agree that in the 3rd quarter, no NFL coach would go for it there in a tie game at their own 30. But, we are playing with 5 minute quarter lengths so the middle of the 3rd quarter would mean theres about 7-8 minutes of actual game time left...I could see a couple coaches going for it on a 4th and inches at that point. It certainly wouldnt be a popular call and outside of Belichick it would be pretty rare to see a coach actually go for it, but I do think several coaches would at least bring the guys on the field and try to draw the defense offsides. Not really taking sides here since I see it both ways, but I do understand why you'd at least bring the offense on the field on a 4th and inches there.[/QUOTE]

Considering the stats and points that people put up in this game, using the "not enough time" argument doesn't really seem realistic to me. You've got people in the other league who will argue that a 21 point lead with 3 minutes left in the game isn't "safe" and that's why it's ok to keep passing the ball. It can't work both ways.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']Remaining games:

Jets vs Bills
Chargers vs Broncos
Packers vs Bears
Vikings vs Panthers
Cardinals vs Cowboys
49ers vs Steelers (having connection issues)
Lions vs Raiders (tomorrow 5 PM CST)[/QUOTE]

Stealing my job, eh? ;)

I will play the CPU Chargers tomorrow.
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']Stealing my job, eh? ;)

I will play the CPU Chargers tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

I was trying to find my week 2 opponent and noticed it hadnt been done yet so I figured I would since I was bored :cool:

Of course, I have the CPU Panthers, ugh. that means it'll be week 3 before I even get a human opponent!
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Considering the stats and points that people put up in this game, using the "not enough time" argument doesn't really seem realistic to me. You've got people in the other league who will argue that a 21 point lead with 3 minutes left in the game isn't "safe" and that's why it's ok to keep passing the ball. It can't work both ways.[/QUOTE]

just so it is clear my memory is quiet shit lol. but anyways if u have a 21 point lead of less in the 4th is it ok to still pass for short yard gains as long as ur not going deep and for the endzone. unless of course the only person that is open is the deep guy. in that case u throw to him and dive. i guess my main question is when is it at the point where ur being a dick for passing. it makes it easy for teams to stop u when they know u have to run so ur not considered a dick.
 
also n8 on the 3rd i will be good to play pretty much any point that day im wide open to whenever
 
[quote name='Blade3D']Got kicked again, each time it said due to excessive grieving on his part was up 13-0 a min or two left in the first half. I got another game to play for the other league, I can try this later.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, both games were laggy. When I got punted, it said removed due to network issues both times. No clue, was doing nothing unusual. My son has no issues with his online games (Halo, Transformers, Minecraft, etc.). Also, Kaster and I played three games online over the past few days with no issues and no significant lag.

Blade was dominating me 20-0 in the first game and he was up 13-0 midway through 2nd qtr. in second. Of course he neglected to mention that I had just intercepted him and taken it back to his one yd line at the moment I got kicked. ;)

I am available to try again tomorrow evening. After 9:30 ET is preferred.
 
[quote name='HooRox']Yeah, both games were laggy. When I got punted, it said removed due to network issues both times. No clue, was doing nothing unusual. My son has no issues with his online games (Halo, Transformers, Minecraft, etc.). Also, Kaster and I played three games online over the past few days with no issues and no significant lag.

Blade was dominating me 20-0 in the first game and he was up 13-0 midway through 2nd qtr. in second. Of course he neglected to mention that I had just intercepted him and taken it back to his one yd line at the moment I got kicked. ;)

I am available to try again tomorrow evening. After 9:30 ET is preferred.[/QUOTE]

Haha it's cool, it was never that laggy for me. It was only when that black bar would pop up maybe 3-5 each game.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']Haha it's cool, it was never that laggy for me. It was only when that black bar would pop up maybe 3-5 each game.[/QUOTE]

Didn't mean to sound paranoid. Wish this wasn't my first game in the league. ;-)

I will be up for a bit longer, if you're available. If not, does tomorrow evening work?
 
[quote name='HooRox']Didn't mean to sound paranoid. Wish this wasn't my first game in the league. ;-)

I will be up for a bit longer, if you're available. If not, does tomorrow evening work?[/QUOTE]

Lets just plan on tomorrow evening. I am free then.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']Lets just plan on tomorrow evening. I am free then.[/QUOTE]

That's good with me.

Want to plan for 9:30 or 10:00 ET?
 
im having to restart my game against the cowboys playing the computer, i only see sleect and waiting for him to show up or simulate by pressing x. do i press x to simulate then get an option to play cpu?
 
[quote name='billymcdugal']im having to restart my game against the cowboys playing the computer, i only see sleect and waiting for him to show up or simulate by pressing x. do i press x to simulate then get an option to play cpu?[/QUOTE]

No. If you select "simulate", you won't be able to play the game. Did he tell you to play the CPU? What's the deal here?
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']No. If you select "simulate", you won't be able to play the game. Did he tell you to play the CPU? What's the deal here?[/QUOTE]
we played the game, i was up 3-30 or so , had the ball with 3 minutes left, ran the ball to wind down the clock, kicked a field goal with about a minute left then i kicked it to him and it looked on my end like he put the controller down, he said that his wifi was messing up and that he had hoped that it would make it through, so i could play the cpu.
 
must have been over looked on there other page so i will ask again. when is it considered time to quit passing the ball once u have a lead. since its looked upon as being a dick when passing the ball when having the lead. but some teams such as the titans who run the ball alot having them be allowed to still run the ball isnt quite fair. why should i stop passing to get first downs when i have a big league when guys that can run the ball all day dont have to stop running the ball? if i have a big lead such as 21 one points or 14 points somewhere in that range in the fourth do i have to stop passing or it ok as long as i dont target the endzone?
 
My WiFi crapped out. Why would I put the control down with 1 minute to go when from the beginning of the fourth it was a blowout? Wouldn't make sense on my part.



Anyways I put myself on autopilot so you could whoop my CPU.
 
[quote name='ballinhun8']My WiFi crapped out. Why would I put the control down with 1 minute to go when from the beginning of the fourth it was a blowout? Wouldn't make sense on my part.



Anyways I put myself on autopilot so you could whoop my CPU.[/QUOTE]
right im not saying you did put the controller down, im just saying thats how it appeared on my screen, hence why it booted you for grieving.
 
[quote name='DVO21']must have been over looked on there other page so i will ask again. when is it considered time to quit passing the ball once u have a lead. since its looked upon as being a dick when passing the ball when having the lead. but some teams such as the titans who run the ball alot having them be allowed to still run the ball isnt quite fair. why should i stop passing to get first downs when i have a big league when guys that can run the ball all day dont have to stop running the ball? if i have a big lead such as 21 one points or 14 points somewhere in that range in the fourth do i have to stop passing or it ok as long as i dont target the endzone?[/QUOTE]

My opinion is that if you are running it on first and second down and milking the play clock and then throwing to try to get a first down then I don't really have a problem with it. Like throwing an 8 yard pass on third and 6 to try to keep the ball.

But I think if you are up big you shouldn't really be throwing on first or second down. There also is really no reason to go deep with it at all.
 
i get what ur saying tower but that still lets them know wut ur doing engage 8 1st and 2nd down knowing that i have to run doesnt really make it to fair.
and as u know since we just played im not the type to run up the score at all and im sure anyone in the league knows im not for it either but giving people ability to know exactly wut ur doing isnt quite fair
 
[quote name='DVO21']i get what ur saying tower but that still lets them know wut ur doing engage 8 1st and 2nd down knowing that i have to run doesnt really make it to fair.
and as u know since we just played im not the type to run up the score at all and im sure anyone in the league knows im not for it either but giving people ability to know exactly wut ur doing isnt quite fair[/QUOTE]

Well, that's kind of where an "enforced logic" comes in. I feel like we have to restrict a lot of stuff so people don't "play like a video game", and actually use football logic. In real life, the reason for running the ball is to chew clock. Coaches don't risk a pass because it could either A) lead to a turnover or B) result in an incompletion which stops the clock. If you're up by 21 in the 4th quarter, you should be trying to do everything you can to keep that clock moving....and at that point, punting isn't the worst thing in the world should it happen.

I don't know why a lot of people seem to have trouble grasping it, but if you kill some clock with a 21 point lead in the 4th, and are forced to punt...and then your opponent comes down the field and scores a TD to cut your lead to 14...start running your offense again. The idea of chewing the clock doesn't mean that you have to let your opponent come back and tie the game or something.

Obviously, it starts to become a gray area, but to me, a comfortable lead is 3 scores. Two scores can happen pretty quickly (TD + onside kick). So, to me it wouldn't be reasonable to get upset at somebody for throwing the ball (on any down) with a 2 score lead. I guess the idea there is that you're still trying to score to put the game away. And with a 3 score lead...you're trying to preserve the lead and get the game over with (not saying you can't do that with less than a 3 score lead...you've just got a much smaller margin for error).

And as always...in the 3rd quarter, there is no expectation. The variable factor here is time. If there's time to come back, you should keep playing your game. But once you get to a comfortable spot in the 4th quarter where you can whittle down the clock and dictate the end of the game, that's all you should be trying to do.
 
so in others words 4th quarter lead is 14 its still ok to pass but anymore than 14 start running. thats fine by me i just wanted to know when the dick factor came into play and now i know so thank u
 
Anyone interested in 2 x 1st round picks, 2 x 2nd round picks, or 2 x 3rd round picks? I'd be looking for a good backup QB, upgrade at LE (would be willing to trade mine), open to other offers if they help my team.
 
[quote name='DVO21']so in others words 4th quarter lead is 14 its still ok to pass but anymore than 14 start running. thats fine by me i just wanted to know when the dick factor came into play and now i know so thank u[/QUOTE]

Well, within reason. It's still expected that if you can run the clock out, you do so. So, if there's less than 2 minutes left and your opponent has no time outs, obviously you shouldn't be passing the ball...regardless of the size of your lead.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Well, within reason. It's still expected that if you can run the clock out, you do so. So, if there's less than 2 minutes left and your opponent has no time outs, obviously you shouldn't be passing the ball...regardless of the size of your lead.[/QUOTE]

lol well i knew that boss man ;)
 
Just FYI, Best Buy Deal of the Day is 3 Months XBL Gold and 800 MSP for $12.99, dead online but instore works. Purchase the XBL Gold 3 Month card with the back scratch off and the 800 MSP code will be printed on the receipt.
 
[quote name='DVO21']lol well i knew that boss man ;)[/QUOTE]

I've learned to never assume anything when it comes to online leagues. You never know who is going to take something the wrong way.

[quote name='Blade3D']Just FYI, Best Buy Deal of the Day is 3 Months XBL Gold and 800 MSP for $12.99, dead online but instore works. Purchase the XBL Gold 3 Month card with the back scratch off and the 800 MSP code will be printed on the receipt.[/QUOTE]

That's not a bad deal (though I have been seeing MS do 2 months for $2 pretty often...but you have to let your account go silver before you'll get the offer). Wish I would have seen it when it was online though. I don't really feel like going out to Best Buy.
 
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