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I have a pretty fast connection with comcast (50 mbps package) but I still get laggy games on occasion.
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I think the degree of lag is the thing. I do think EA runs its servers under a "as cheap as we can get away with" policy. So, getting games with a little bit of lag is probably their fault. But when you run into those games with the crippling lag where it's not recognizing button presses and is stuttering all over the place, I think that's an individual connection thing.
So, with your connection, if you ever have a game like that, it's probably a safe assumption that it's the other guy's fault...unless like Twick said, you're running a lot of bandwidth heavy applications (I couldn't imagine downloading a PS3 game while trying to play online, lol). And even if you're not, that doesn't mean your opponent isn't. Gotta get dat porno somehow, haha.
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LMAO...man, I love the dummies who inhabit that world known as "Xbox Live Ranked Play". I just played a guy, who I'm about to beat...up 21-14, and picked up a 1st down, so I can just kneel the ball and let the clock run out (he's got one timeout left). The clock ticks down to :02...he uses his timeout, pauses the game, and then quits. WTF? He couldn't wait 2 more seconds, and would rather get a Quit added to his record. Derp.
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Yeah, this didn't happen. I'm sorry you haven't been feeling well, Matt. But you've gotta play your games, man. If it was just this game, I really wouldn't say anything because, of course, we all get sick. But isn't this the 3rd or 4th game you've missed? You were given the Packers over another fan, who is playing as a team he didn't even want right now.. I get that everybody has stuff going on. But at least be fair to that other Cheesehead and play your games.
1:45 AM EST and this didn't happen either.
The Chiefs also didn't play his game against the CPU...the Seahawks owner hasn't checked in in weeks (has missed his last 4 games and isn't even reading CAG messages)....annnnnnd I think the Vikings owner left without saying anything, lol. Damn!
For whatever reason, it seems like people just aren't as into Madden this year. This league will move forward regardless...with as many or as few members as we have. Anyone who wants to remain a part of that is more than welcome to hang around. As I said from the beginning, this is just "franchise mode" to me. I'm playing through some seasons as my favorite team, which I would have done against the CPU had this league not existed. So, from that perspective, something is better than nothing. And I hope others can look at it that same way.
And on that note, we have advanced to Week 8!. I have a bye this week. Makes sense since for whatever reason, I've been playing Madden all night, lol. Not sure what that's about. Maybe I'm coming down with something. Week 8 deadline will be 10/20!
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Sounds like a guy I played in NHL HUT the other day... I was up 6-0 5 minutes into the 2nd period. He started taking delay of game penalties on purpose and instead of running up the score which probably wouldn't have been too hard, I decided to go work on my D to D passing behind my net. With a minute left in the game he quit.
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Anyone have any fast running backs available for trade? He doesn't have to have a high overall. DeAngelo just isn't cutting it.
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How fast?
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LMAO...well if that isn't a perfect picture of the arcadeyness of this game. "I don't care is he's ever played football before." lol. I thought I saw Usain Bolt in the free agent list.
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The blocking is so effective in this year's version that I think speed isn't exactly everything anymore. I've actually had more success with Green-Ellis this year than I ever thought I would. He's not very quick at all, but he moves the chains just fine. I use Bernard and Best just as a change of pace.
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I have Fios, but I try to make sure nothing is downloading or anything like that during Madden games. It'll be the same way during NHL league games. I only seem to have problems with EA games most of the time.
And I'm sorry I didn't play my game vs. the CPU. I was pretty much bedridden from Monday night until this morning. I'm fine now, though.
EDIT: Just saw Nate's last post. I don't think I missed any games against other users except for the game with Pitfall that disconnected in the 1st and I did not replay. I think I missed one other CPU game.
And I'm sorry I didn't play my game vs. the CPU. I was pretty much bedridden from Monday night until this morning. I'm fine now, though.
EDIT: Just saw Nate's last post. I don't think I missed any games against other users except for the game with Pitfall that disconnected in the 1st and I did not replay. I think I missed one other CPU game.
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Well, your first game of the season against the 49ers (when they had an owner) had an issue as well. This is the tale of the Packers so far this year::
I don't think I ever saw an explanation here. Obviously, there's fault on both sides in both examples. This week was actually your first game against a CPU team (so, assuming you played your games again the Redskins, Lions, and Ravens, you've not played 3 out of 6 games). Just not exactly a stellar start to the season. All I'm saying is I know you can do better...and I hope you do because I feel like an ass telling another Packers fan he couldn't have the team just for them to miss half of their games.
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Understood. I wasn't trying to dispute what you were saying or make excuses. If you need to take any action, I'm not going to take it personally.
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No, no actions necessary. Just wanted to address it and express hope that you improve on that. Honestly, with respect to HooRox (the other Packers fan), I'm sure he'd feel better about you being more active with your games as well. I know he accepted his fate with the Jets, but I doubt he wants to see his favorite team get neglected either. As long as we're all on the same page here, I'm good.
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Yes, I think we are on the same page. Although, in regards to HooRox, he'd probably feel better if I wasn't putting up such horrible numbers whenever I have played.
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LOL...with as many members as we've lost lately, I think most of us are just happy to have a fun opponent to play against. At least that's the way I look at it. I appreciate the people here for participating and for being here for the right reasons.
Sorry, fiancé called me from her work and had me pick up her parents at the airport because their neighbors who were supposed to pick them up had some type of family emergency. I always set a reminder on my phones calendar for an hour before my game and another 10 minutes before and got them while I was driving them home... 2 hours away.
Trust me, I would have rather played Madden than that 6 hour ordeal of driving and waiting for them. I'm sure we've all been there though.
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I don't have to wait til the last day to play the CPU Vikings, do I? I'm going to be out of town Saturday and Sunday at wrestling shows.
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No, any CPU games you can play immediately. He left without saying anything. I doubt he intends to come back.
Anyone ever get a disc unreadable error while trying to boot Madden? I'm trying to play my game against Kastor, but the game won't even boot.
EDIT: I can boot up other games, for some reason Madden isn't working. I think maybe it has something to do with the GTA Update that I downloaded a few hours ago. I deleted the update & cleared my cache, but Madden still won't work.
I guess unless someone knows of a way to resolve this I will have to drop out of the league...
EDIT: I can boot up other games, for some reason Madden isn't working. I think maybe it has something to do with the GTA Update that I downloaded a few hours ago. I deleted the update & cleared my cache, but Madden still won't work.
I guess unless someone knows of a way to resolve this I will have to drop out of the league...
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n8rockerasu
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Check the inner ring of your game and make sure there's no crack in it. Several of us have seen that happen before.
I don't see anything on the ring, not even a scratch.
I guess just drop me from the league, I'm going to see if amazon will send me a replacement copy but I seriously doubt they will since i have had the game since launch.
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Trade Approved
This is the first attempted trade with a CPU team, and since this is actually the trade that happened in real life, most of the committee felt like it at least deserved to be posed to the CPU in game. The Browns may want nothing to do with it though, and then it would be dead in the water. But at least we didn't have to question how realistic this trade was.
DarkTower, you'll need to put this trade in sometime today. Because once we advance, I don't think the game will let you (trade deadline is Week 9).
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Signing on to try it now.
Edit - Rejected. Oh well it was worth a shot.
Edit - Rejected. Oh well it was worth a shot.
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Haha, go figure. I kind of expected to CPU to be pretty stingy anyway. It would be nice if they'd give you a counter offer though...that way you could see what it would take to get the deal done. They'd probably ask for Luck and Mathis too though, haha.
Wow, that's awesome. Glad to hear it. You have not been removed, so you'll be good to go.
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Dude just went for it on 4th and 6 on the 50 up by more than a FG. Wouldn't let me call a timeout an he called the play before I could change my formation. Cool.
I quit because he just wasted an hour of my time. I'm in the middle of dinner and a fantasy basketball draft. Boot me if you want but that's a shit move.
He also stupidly went for 4th and 1 going into the half down 3.
I quit because he just wasted an hour of my time. I'm in the middle of dinner and a fantasy basketball draft. Boot me if you want but that's a shit move.
He also stupidly went for 4th and 1 going into the half down 3.
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I had a 4th and 6 from your 49 yard line with a 4 pt lead. The reason I went for it was because Drew Brees was throwing all over my D. This game was gonna be whoever had the ball last was gonna win. I knew you'd score if I punted the ball to you. You would've had 3 minutes left and 2 timeouts. I don't think it was shitty at all. I think a lot of coaches in the NFL would've done the same thing. But regardless it was a good back and forth game the whole way and you had to quit with 3 minutes left because you didn't stop me. That was pretty childish if you ask me. And I gave you 6 or 7 seconds to call a timeout but you didn't. What did u expect me to do?
EDIT: Also, it took me like 20 seconds to pick a play. You should've known I was going for it, after all it does say the offensive formation on the bottom of the screen during play selection.
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And yeah, I did go for it on 4th and goal from the half-yard line as time expired in the first half. It wasn't a conservative play call, but I just gave away 10 points in the last minute of the quarter. I tried to get 7 of em back. I could tell what kind of game this was gonna be so I thought I needed the 7 points. You stuffed my run attempt so I don't even see why you're complaining about that.
Also, you did some pretty cheesy pass plays yourself which I wasn't gonna bring up until now. You called pass plays out of the shotgun and then dropped 20 yards back and to the left out of the pocket without any pressure and chucked long bombs to the right side of the field. I thought that was shitty of you but I let em slide because the game was so close.
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It's called moving the pocket. I did it maybe 2-3 times. And most of it was based on your pass rush. Next time I will just take the sack...
I couldn't call a timeout because I just did to stop the clock. Once I figured that out I tried to change my coverage and that's when you snapped the ball. However, "cheesy" you think passing the ball out of the pocket is, nothing touched that level of bullshit.
I couldn't call a timeout because I just did to stop the clock. Once I figured that out I tried to change my coverage and that's when you snapped the ball. However, "cheesy" you think passing the ball out of the pocket is, nothing touched that level of bullshit.
There was no pressure from my D line, Brees was 15 yards away from ANYBODY. Also, the previous play was an incomplete pass. You could've called a timeout.
EDIT: You still had 2 timeouts and the 2 minute warning. You could've held me to a field goal and still gotten the ball back down 7 instead of quitting.
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So your excuse for going for it was that I would have the last possession and win the game. (Side note: my offense was moving but I also threw 2 or 3 picks. I wasn't playing that well.)
And now you say I should've stuck around because I had plenty of time to get the ball back. Wouldn't you have that same time if I somehow scored and put myself up by 2 points? In that case, you'd have 1-2 minutes left and just need a FG.
I don't know what to tell you. You had two super questionable calls. One which failed miserably and one which only worked because you snapped it as my special teamers were running into formation.
Edit: before n8 or any other commish types join in, I realize quitting is lame as hell and I apologize to the league. That's shitty. Won't apologize to this guy. I'm willing to take any punishments or a boot from the league. But still stand by my thoughts on his 4th down tries.
And now you say I should've stuck around because I had plenty of time to get the ball back. Wouldn't you have that same time if I somehow scored and put myself up by 2 points? In that case, you'd have 1-2 minutes left and just need a FG.
I don't know what to tell you. You had two super questionable calls. One which failed miserably and one which only worked because you snapped it as my special teamers were running into formation.
Edit: before n8 or any other commish types join in, I realize quitting is lame as hell and I apologize to the league. That's shitty. Won't apologize to this guy. I'm willing to take any punishments or a boot from the league. But still stand by my thoughts on his 4th down tries.
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Ok, let's slow down. Seems like a lot of extra info is getting thrown around and it's creating more confusion. Let's stick to the facts, faced with a 4th and 6 at the Jets 49 yard line, Twick says that he took a good 20 seconds to pick his play. However, if uber had already selected his play (not a great thing to do...but yeah, not the first time someone has made an assumption), which I'm guessing was a punt return, that wouldn't matter. And if he had already called a timeout to stop the clock (ie. to force what he assumed would be a punt), yeah, the game wouldn't let him call another one on the field. Is that what happened so far?
After picking up the first down I would've ran 3 plays straight up the middle and kicked a FG on fourth down. I felt way more comfortable with a 7 point lead and making you go 80 yards in less than 2 minutes with no timeouts just to TIE, as opposed to giving you the ball with a 4 point lead and making you go 80 yards in 3 minutes with 2 timeouts and the 2 minute warning for the WIN.
I called a pass play to pick up the 1st down on 3rd and 6 which was incomplete. He did not call a timeout on the previous play. But otherwise, yes that is true.
EDIT: I don't know if he was in punt return formation, but from the way he lined up I thought he was in man coverage. Also, the score was 35-31 with both qb's closing in on 400 yards passing.
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Good grief, this is going to turn into a huge mess if people can't even remember what actually happened. I'm pretty sure if an incomplete pass was thrown on 3rd down, he could have called a timeout once he saw you weren't punting. So, something isn't adding up there. But as for not "knowing" he was in a punt return formation, that's also sketchy as hell. How do you not see one single player standing in his own endzone? You guys gotta get your stories straight here.
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whatever formation you were in, you audibled into what looked like a corner blitz because your corner took off towards my qb as soon as I snapped the ball. i was just running a button hook to stevie johnson, I didn't really look at any of your db's except for whoever was covering him.
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It wouldn't let me... What aren't you getting about that part? I'm not 100% sure your incomplete story checks out. I don't recall the exact play but I just called the timeout so I wasn't surprised when it wouldn't let me call another.
I don't know why you'd hike it as soon as you saw me start to audible. Clearly you were trying to exploit the situation. There's no getting around that regardless of the 3rd down play.
?? Dude, explain to me how my story is incomplete?? You clearly didn't call a timeout because u wanted to save it for your offense for when u (presumably) stopped me on fourth down...
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All right, well, we still don't have a clear picture of the timeout situation. But regardless, I think I've got enough to go on. I had this typed up right after the first few posts were made, but I wanted to get some more info and confer with any trade committee members that may have been online. So, here we go:
All right...lets sift through this, starting from the beginning. I don't think going for a 4th and goal at the half yard line as a final play of the 1st half is out of line. That does actually happen.
The 4th and 6 from the 49 with a 4 point lead though...I don't think that's right. This clairvoyant suggestion of "knowing" somebody would score if you had punted is crap. If there were 3 minutes left, and he's got 2 timeouts, then there's probably even a decent chance you could get the ball back if he in fact scores a TD. There's just a lot of assumptions being made there.
As for not letting him adjust his defense, and this is almost the worst thing, if I'm following it right...I'm sure there was confusion there with not realizing he couldn't call another timeout. But it looks like uber is saying he called a punt return. If Twick actually snapped the ball before uber's guys could get into position on an audible, that's really out of line, in my opinion. He would already know there that he's got uber screwed with the wrong play call...snapping the ball before letting his wrong players get set is just really taking advantage.
On the other side, quitting isn't ok either. I know I've done before...most of us have. But I think finally reached a point where I've accepted that this is a shitty game, and playing it is an exercise in futility to begin with...so why bother getting upset? And in this instance, you could even argue that it may have been a bit of an overreaction.
So, my thought here is strikes on both sides. This will be Twick's 2nd, so he'd be suspended for his next game against a human opponent. And ubernes would have his first, meaning he'll have used up his warning strike. My reasoning is that had both of these infractions happened independently, they both would have warranted a strike anyway.
As for this game, since we're short on time, and considering that I don't really love the idea of enforcing the suspension on the game in question, if you guys can't replay it tonight, I think simming it is the most fair thing to do. I'm sorry things had to go down this way, but there were violations on both sides. And the biggest concept that I do not want to enable is "If I don't do something questionable, I might lose."...which is applicable to both sides. People being willing to go to those measures is what causes all the problems in the first place.
All right...lets sift through this, starting from the beginning. I don't think going for a 4th and goal at the half yard line as a final play of the 1st half is out of line. That does actually happen.
The 4th and 6 from the 49 with a 4 point lead though...I don't think that's right. This clairvoyant suggestion of "knowing" somebody would score if you had punted is crap. If there were 3 minutes left, and he's got 2 timeouts, then there's probably even a decent chance you could get the ball back if he in fact scores a TD. There's just a lot of assumptions being made there.
As for not letting him adjust his defense, and this is almost the worst thing, if I'm following it right...I'm sure there was confusion there with not realizing he couldn't call another timeout. But it looks like uber is saying he called a punt return. If Twick actually snapped the ball before uber's guys could get into position on an audible, that's really out of line, in my opinion. He would already know there that he's got uber screwed with the wrong play call...snapping the ball before letting his wrong players get set is just really taking advantage.
On the other side, quitting isn't ok either. I know I've done before...most of us have. But I think finally reached a point where I've accepted that this is a shitty game, and playing it is an exercise in futility to begin with...so why bother getting upset? And in this instance, you could even argue that it may have been a bit of an overreaction.
So, my thought here is strikes on both sides. This will be Twick's 2nd, so he'd be suspended for his next game against a human opponent. And ubernes would have his first, meaning he'll have used up his warning strike. My reasoning is that had both of these infractions happened independently, they both would have warranted a strike anyway.
As for this game, since we're short on time, and considering that I don't really love the idea of enforcing the suspension on the game in question, if you guys can't replay it tonight, I think simming it is the most fair thing to do. I'm sorry things had to go down this way, but there were violations on both sides. And the biggest concept that I do not want to enable is "If I don't do something questionable, I might lose."...which is applicable to both sides. People being willing to go to those measures is what causes all the problems in the first place.
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I think you guys should drop it because these arguments are making less and less sense. If he was in a punt formation, he obviously wasn't expecting to need to stop you on 4th down...and I really doubt he had much confidence in his audibled special teamers stopping you on 4th down in a game that you were already winning.
For this argument to hold any water, you'd have to be suggesting that he's lying about being in punt formation and lying about using the timeout. Basically, everything uber has said would have to be untrue. I'm willing to believe that there may be some confusion and a little mix up...but the idea of his entire side of it being fabricated just seems like a huge stretch.
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