Call of Duty Black OPS

[quote name='mvp828']Maybe you personally didn't have problems... But they were still there. Hell, the patch that finally fixed the whole ice-skating bullshit in MW2 didn't come out until late January or early February.

As for re-population, it goes right back to my previous statement. Everyone complained in MW2 about getting put into matches that were in progress, now they complain because those spots aren't getting filled. Well, big deal... You can't get both things done now can you?

Again, with the lobbies not populating, than you obviously don't have a very good connection or you aren't trying to set the search options to be a little bit more friendly. Yea, I occasionally will hit a bump with getting into a full lobby... But it isn't the end of the world.

Then we go back to the whole Ghost "issue"... You complain about Black Ops being unbalanced, you complained about MW2 being unbalanced... I got it, maybe you guys should just go play UNO or have an Xbox Live Vision party with each other. I'd hate for you to flood the thread anymore with tears.

I swear, if I got half as irritated as you guys I'd probably want to kick my own ass for being such a whiney bitch.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the comedy relief for the night. This post had me literally LOL :lol:
 
[quote name='mvp828']Maybe you personally didn't have problems... But they were still there. Hell, the patch that finally fixed the whole ice-skating bullshit in MW2 didn't come out until late January or early February.

As for re-population, it goes right back to my previous statement. Everyone complained in MW2 about getting put into matches that were in progress, now they complain because those spots aren't getting filled. Well, big deal... You can't get both things done now can you?

Again, with the lobbies not populating, than you obviously don't have a very good connection or you aren't trying to set the search options to be a little bit more friendly. Yea, I occasionally will hit a bump with getting into a full lobby... But it isn't the end of the world.

Then we go back to the whole Ghost "issue"... You complain about Black Ops being unbalanced, you complained about MW2 being unbalanced... I got it, maybe you guys should just go play UNO or have an Xbox Live Vision party with each other. I'd hate for you to flood the thread anymore with tears.

I swear, if I got half as irritated as you guys I'd probably want to kick my own ass for being such a whiney bitch.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you personally aren't having problems with BO... but they're still there. Getting thrown into an in-progress game does suck, but this isn't intentional on Treyarch's part. The lobbies not re-populating are due to the matchmaking being complete shit. If it was intentional, it would never happen. There's a reason why there's a 20 second timer. It's to allow more people to join. The game would just end if they wanted to prevent that from happening. It does refill occasionally, but not like it should.

Is it really impossible for two games to have balance issues? Do you think every game is perfect right out of the gate? When major gameplay changes are introduced, it has the potential to cause new problems. Stopping Power is gone, Juggernaut is gone, Ghost should be gone. At the very least it shouldn't be complete immunity to Spy Planes. Flak Jacket isn't complete immunity to explosives, so why is Ghost complete invisibility? Why is that unreasonable?

There are also guns tweaks I think would help balance the game.

- The Famas/AUG should require 1 more bullet to kill.
- The 74u is way too good, it's better than some Assault Rifles.
- The snipers are garbage, still.
- The shotguns need a buff.

It's not like I'm some noob crying because I'm not as good at this game as I was at MW2. My stats are actually better. I know what I'm talking about and I know what is balanced and what isn't.
 
I really don't see the big deal about the game, yeah there's a handful of stuff that's fucked up but I mean if it's that big of a deal......well...........like some people in this thread have told me about Halo, don't play the fucking game then.

The shotguns def need a buff, Ghost is lame but it's not game breaking, I quit out of laggy matches, I don't snipe, if the 74u is too good why not use it?

I've been using the Spectre for a while and it SEEMS to be on the same level as the 74u dunno why.

I find this game more fun than MW2 but that's me.
 
Whenever I get killed by the FAMAS, which is every time I get killed, I want to grab the frame of my television and shove my head through it, Videodrome style.
 
[quote name='mvp828']Maybe you personally didn't have problems... But they were still there. Hell, the patch that finally fixed the whole ice-skating bullshit in MW2 didn't come out until late January or early February.

As for re-population, it goes right back to my previous statement. Everyone complained in MW2 about getting put into matches that were in progress, now they complain because those spots aren't getting filled. Well, big deal... You can't get both things done now can you?

Again, with the lobbies not populating, than you obviously don't have a very good connection or you aren't trying to set the search options to be a little bit more friendly. Yea, I occasionally will hit a bump with getting into a full lobby... But it isn't the end of the world.

Then we go back to the whole Ghost "issue"... You complain about Black Ops being unbalanced, you complained about MW2 being unbalanced... I got it, maybe you guys should just go play UNO or have an Xbox Live Vision party with each other. I'd hate for you to flood the thread anymore with tears.

I swear, if I got half as irritated as you guys I'd probably want to kick my own ass for being such a whiney bitch.[/QUOTE]

Can we please play you guys again. Also Uno is way unbalanced. If you challenge a Draw 4 and lose you get 6 cards? WTF is that?
 
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Wow...people really think the shotguns need a buff? That's laughable.

Run around with the Spas 12 w/silencer...or even the Stakeout. You will not be able to come back in this thread a tell me they need a buff. Just because they can't hit people from across the map like the Dual 1887's or the Spas could in MW2 doesn't mean they need a buff.
 
Does anyone have advice for me when using the death machine or grim reaper? I seem to always have trouble using them. Never get many kills, maybe one and then i die and its over. Most of the time i try to find someone to kill with them, and end up shooting them with my regular gun before i have a chance to bring out the death machine or reaper.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']Does anyone have advice for me when using the death machine or grim reaper? I seem to always have trouble using them. Never get many kills, maybe one and then i die and its over. Most of the time i try to find someone to kill with them, and end up shooting them with my regular gun before i have a chance to bring out the death machine or reaper.[/QUOTE]

I just walk around with it looking for targets.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Maybe you personally aren't having problems with BO... but they're still there. Getting thrown into an in-progress game does suck, but this isn't intentional on Treyarch's part. The lobbies not re-populating are due to the matchmaking being complete shit. If it was intentional, it would never happen. There's a reason why there's a 20 second timer. It's to allow more people to join. The game would just end if they wanted to prevent that from happening. It does refill occasionally, but not like it should.

Is it really impossible for two games to have balance issues? Do you think every game is perfect right out of the gate? When major gameplay changes are introduced, it has the potential to cause new problems. Stopping Power is gone, Juggernaut is gone, Ghost should be gone. At the very least it shouldn't be complete immunity to Spy Planes. Flak Jacket isn't complete immunity to explosives, so why is Ghost complete invisibility? Why is that unreasonable?

There are also guns tweaks I think would help balance the game.

- The Famas/AUG should require 1 more bullet to kill.
- The 74u is way too good, it's better than some Assault Rifles.
- The snipers are garbage, still.
- The shotguns need a buff.

It's not like I'm some noob crying because I'm not as good at this game as I was at MW2. My stats are actually better. I know what I'm talking about and I know what is balanced and what isn't.[/QUOTE]

Ghost is not complete immunity. Helicopters will still kill you for instance, someone driving an RC car can see you and of course blackbirds will expose you
 
[quote name='life.exe']Wow...people really think the shotguns need a buff? That's laughable.

Run around with the Spas 12 w/silencer...or even the Stakeout. You will not be able to come back in this thread a tell me they need a buff. Just because they can't hit people from across the map like the Dual 1887's or the Spas could in MW2 doesn't mean they need a buff.[/QUOTE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH9w6HIkQFE

Shotguns were overpowered in MW2 because they were secondaries. If they were primaries, they'd have been fine.

[quote name='kklems']Ghost is not complete immunity. Helicopters will still kill you for instance, someone driving an RC car can see you and of course blackbirds will expose you[/QUOTE]

I mentioned the Spy Plane specifically.
 
Man i was playing a couple games against some serious campers today. First game was on Crisis, where most of the team just kept camping in the water sniping, but one guy i kept killing was in one of the tanks. Everytime i killed him, he would just go right back to that spot. Man i loved driving the RC car over there a few times to kill a couple of those campers just laying there.

The next game was on Radiation, same guys from last game. This one guy did the same thing, kept camping in the same spot. I ended up killing him 8 times because he would always go back to the same spot. He ended up going negative.

This is why i dont get why people camp, maybe because they arent any good if they dont? But i usually end up with 10-20+ kills a game from running around shooting people. Most of the time going on the plus side. Sure i have the occasional bad game, but most of the time my line is decent.

I know i said it before, but ill say it again, they need to get rid of last stand. Or change it in some drastic way. Im so sick of having to shoot a guy three times in a hardcore TDM game to get a kill, where he would only have to shoot me once. Its basically a deathstreak perk that you can use all the time, and its cheap. I hate how i will die, and he will fall into last stand right at the same time. Im not sure what they could do to make it better, maybe only allow you to go into last stand every 3rd time you die. Make the pistol bullets less effective? IDK. I used it a bit last prestige, and got last stand pro. That thing was like OMA, only that guys could heal me over and over and id get good killstreaks going because i was able to keep myself alive using it. But i dont think that is really a good thing to have in the game.

I tried the spas-12 with supressor and didnt like it much. Mainly because when you aim, the gun blocks a lot of what you are trying to target. So it makes it a little more difficult to target a person really quick.
 
Shotguns need a buff but not in the traditional sense. Shotguns are strong but they are so inconsistent due to the netcode that they become a crap shoot. Now the spas is like my top 5 weapon, I have used it for a long time and I still dont know what will get a 1 hit kill and what wont.

Sometimes it takes 4 shots to kill someone, sometimes 1, sometimes 3, sometimes I unload every single clip and still dont drop the guy. Point is, for every one time I think the shotgun is working correctly (dropping a guy with 1 shot to the chest) there is about 5 that make no sense what so ever.

So the shotguns need a buff but not with power, just with consistency.
 
[quote name='Trakan']BLAH BLAH BLAH CRY CRY CRY
Is it really impossible for two games to have balance issues? Do you think every game is perfect right out of the gate? When major gameplay changes are introduced, it has the potential to cause new problems. Stopping Power is gone, Juggernaut is gone, Ghost should be gone. At the very least it shouldn't be complete immunity to Spy Planes. Flak Jacket isn't complete immunity to explosives, so why is Ghost complete invisibility? Why is that unreasonable?

There are also guns tweaks I think would help balance the game.

- The Famas/AUG should require 1 more bullet to kill.
- The 74u is way too good, it's better than some Assault Rifles.
- The snipers are garbage, still.
- The shotguns need a buff.

It's not like I'm some noob crying because I'm not as good at this game as I was at MW2. My stats are actually better. I know what I'm talking about and I know what is balanced and what isn't.[/QUOTE]

I never said that the game was perfect nor do I expect it to be... I think you are the one that expects a perfect game... But sorry to break your heart... THERE ISN'T ONE! And quite frankly, there never will be one. Until God and Jesus team up to make a game, I think we are fucked in the "perfect" game genre... And even then, we still might not get it. Life isn't perfect either, deal with it.

Then you continue to complain about Ghost... Again, it isn't like it is some unstoppable monster that can't be beat. Communication, Blackbirds, watching the screen to see where your teammates are dying at, etc...

Then you complain about the AUG and FAMAS... Really one more bullet to kill? Is anyone really going to notice that or is it even going to help?

74U is good... Is it better than some ARs? Yes. Has there always been some SMGs better than some ARs in the past CoD games? Yes. Just think about it... UMP, MP40, and MP5 were all better than a lot of the ARs.

Sniper rifles and shotguns are hardly broken... They, for the most part, are one shot kills. Every once in awhile it might take a shot or two more, but that is hardly balancing and due more to connections.

No one said you are a noob who is crying... I just said you were crying in general (and really I didn't even say YOU were, you just happened to be the one who took offense to my responses). As for stats, mine are pretty equal except for W/L ratio which is tremendously better due to playing with a group more than I did in MW2 since I also played a lot more. Hell, I have already doubled my highest win streak from MW2 and then some.

Bottom line is if you don't like the game and think it is so unbalanced than go to Gamestop, trade it in, and play something else. No one is forcing you to play Black Ops. It'd be nice to be able to see a Call of Duty thread that isn't 90% complaining and 10% discussion... But I won't hold my breath.
 
Alright mvp, this is my last reply to you. I used to have some respect for you but now you're just being an asshole.

You think the game is fine and I think it's a broken piece of shit. I do expect a perfect game, yes. It doesn't have to be out of the gate, but I want them to at least make an attempt at it. Some may say Treyarch is doing that, and to an extent I agree, but they are unwilling to even admit there are problems with glaring issues such as the connections/netcode.

Just because Ghost isn't some "unstoppable monster" doesn't mean that it isn't unbalanced. When one perk dominates ninety-something percent of the people I play against then it's a problem. When one perk makes a person good at the game because they can hide in random corners, then it's a problem.

I also do not see how suggesting gun tweaks is "complaining" but okay. The FAMAS/AUG requiring one more bullet up close would make it so the SMGs actually stand a chance. Anyone using anything but a 74u will lose out every time to a FAMAS/AUG up close with steady aim. Ever face a host FAMAS? It's ridiculous. You don't even have a chance to react most of the time.

The 74u is not in the same league as the UMP or MP40. The UMP had to contend with the ACR, SCAR, TAR, and all those other assault rifles which were incredibly good. There's nothing like that in Black Ops. I wouldn't say it's as bad as the MP40 but it still does outclass every other SMG out there. Why use anything else? In MW2 the P90, the Uzi, hell even the MP5K were all still decent choices. Don't get me started on the MP40. There's a reason why some people had absolutely zero faith in Treyarch after WaW, and that one gun was why.

It's funny that you say the reason the shotguns/snipers are inconsistent is because of the connections. I thought Black Ops didn't have any more connection problems that previous COD titles? The shotguns/snipers hit detection were never a problem in COD4 or MW2. Count how many sniper deaths you have and get back to me on that one.

Maybe next time if you aren't referring to me crying then you should quote me when making that statement. The current state of the game and what people think should be tweaked/patched is discussion whether you like it or not.

Bottom line is if you don't like the complaining don't come in to this thread. I always gave you the benefit of the doubt, but after all these recent posts and now thinking back to that COD4 game I realize you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
@mvp828: The only COD game I have played that had such a dominate SMG before was COD WaW (MP40). In COD4 I felt the MP5 was the best SMG of them all, but the P90 and the Uzi were both great SMG's as well and while you could hold your own with any of them, they didn't dominate assault rifles either. You had the M16 (which based on connections was either a beast or a piece of crap), the AK-47 which was very consistent, the M4 which packed a little less punch than the M16 but had the full auto to balance it, and then the G36C which was a little weaker but extremely accurate.

In MW2 the UMP was insanely good, but the MP5k, P90, and Uzi were all very good as well. They also didn't dominate most assault rifles though you still had a chance against one like in COD4. You have the M16, Famas, ACR, Scar, Tar, M4, the AK47, and the FAL (with holographic) was a 2 shot kill in normal with Stopping Power.

Last, I feel sniper rifles in this game serve no purpose really as I can almost always dominate a sniper even at a range. In COD4 and MW2 at least snipers had a chance and even though I hated quick scoping (not because I couldn't do it, because I was good at that too), but at least snipers could fight back.

I am not going to bitch about the game anymore other than to say it is a piece of crap that I don't even play anymore and will only rarely touch it again, but previous COD titles were far more balanced gun wise whether you want to admit it or not.
 
Let me just chime in here saying that people have been complaining about many things in the COD series for example:

COD4 - 3 frags perk, hurling donuts across the map is fun!!!!!

COD: WAW - Juggernaut/MP40 combo, now you really are the juggernaut.

COD: MW2 - OMA/Noobtubes and commando, hey what do you know guns are useless now.

and finally we have BO which Trakan kindly already listed the issues for me.

Just realize this that each of these titles have been played to death on XBL and PSN, and when the next one hits the shelves people will forget BO and all the other COD titles and play the newest one.

I only listed these titles because they're the ones I'm most familiar with, I know there are others, but maybe people didn't complain about them as much.

Just my 2 cents.
 
[quote name='mvp828']It'd be nice to be able to see a Call of Duty thread that isn't 90% complaining and 10% discussion... But I won't hold my breath.[/QUOTE]


I am not in this current battle (for once) but this interests me. What sort of discussion would you want to talk about? CODBO isnt really a game that spurs detailed discussion of the depths of the human soul.


I am not saying this to make fun because I honestly thought about it for a couple of minutes. Maybe people bitch because COD isnt really anything more than a popcorn game. You build a game this mainstream there is bound to be a lot of little things many people dont like. Maybe they didnt do enough to really create features and modes that would keep people happy for a long period of time. (IMPO its Treyarch best known for copying IW)

-The SP was forgettable proven by the fact that no one even talks about it.
-Zombie mode seems to have worn out its welcome (i never liked it in the first place) because no one seems to be talking about that at all.

-Dead Ops was cool for a couple minutes but once played was forgotten.

-The economy thing fell flat as the only people who cared about buying things that werent guns were people trying to make the most realistic dick for their emblem.



I dont know. I think the game is solidly average but maybe they didnt add enough things of substance to get people interested past a couple months. People expect more game and less gimmicks?

All I know is that I am really sick of map packs, DLC of actual substance would be nice.
 
[quote name='Trakan'] Alright mvp, this is my last reply to you. I used to have some respect for you but now you're just being an asshole.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry... The feelings mutual. I'm an asshole and you're a whiney bitch. I guess it's my fault that I don't ride your dick like all your little cronies.

[quote name='Trakan']You think the game is fine and I think it's a broken piece of shit. I do expect a perfect game, yes. It doesn't have to be out of the gate, but I want them to at least make an attempt at it. Some may say Treyarch is doing that, and to an extent I agree, but they are unwilling to even admit there are problems with glaring issues such as the connections/netcode.[/QUOTE]

But yet IW didn't admit their faults and you were still on that band-wagon... Funny how things work.

[quote name='Trakan']Just because Ghost isn't some "unstoppable monster" doesn't mean that it isn't unbalanced. When one perk dominates ninety-something percent of the people I play against then it's a problem. When one perk makes a person good at the game because they can hide in random corners, then it's a problem. [/QUOTE]

Again, I highly doubt 90% of people you play against are using Ghost. As for people sitting in corners with Ghost... Isn't that why you play with a full group and have headsets. I know that there have been CAGs that invited you to play in the past, but you couldn't because well you only can play with a select few people... You know the ones who hang on to your pockets every chance they get.

[quote name='Trakan']I also do not see how suggesting gun tweaks is "complaining" but okay. The FAMAS/AUG requiring one more bullet up close would make it so the SMGs actually stand a chance. Anyone using anything but a 74u will lose out every time to a FAMAS/AUG up close with steady aim. Ever face a host FAMAS? It's ridiculous. You don't even have a chance to react most of the time.

The 74u is not in the same league as the UMP or MP40. The UMP had to contend with the ACR, SCAR, TAR, and all those other assault rifles which were incredibly good. There's nothing like that in Black Ops. I wouldn't say it's as bad as the MP40 but it still does outclass every other SMG out there. Why use anything else? In MW2 the P90, the Uzi, hell even the MP5K were all still decent choices. Don't get me started on the MP40. There's a reason why some people had absolutely zero faith in Treyarch after WaW, and that one gun was why.[/QUOTE]

You say that the 74U is overpowered and every other SMG will lose everytime against a FAMAS/AUG... Well apparently you havend used the MPL, MAC 11, or Spectre, because all of those do perfectly fine up close range against the ARs.

As for the 74U not having any AR competition, I would say the Galil, M16, G11, and Commando can all handle a 74U at different ranges.

[quote name='Trakan']It's funny that you say the reason the shotguns/snipers are inconsistent is because of the connections. I thought Black Ops didn't have any more connection problems that previous COD titles? The shotguns/snipers hit detection were never a problem in COD4 or MW2. Count how many sniper deaths you have and get back to me on that one. [/QUOTE]

I never said that there weren't connections problems... I guess you should try to remember more than one post back. Otherwise you would remember yesterday I said that the problems are the same as in MW2. How many shots did it take in MW2 to kill people with snipers... I know for a fact that it took multiple with many of the sniper rifles. It all goes back to the fact that one connection can screw up a lobby, just as it did with MW2.

As for deaths from snipers... I think you are forgetting two huge major difference between MW2 and Black Ops.
1) The elimination or at least the increased difficulty of quick-scoping. You don't have nearly as many people running around with sniper rifles trying to shoot you from 4 feet away.
2) The maps... There aren't very many maps that make sniping an option, so obviously your kills from sniper rifles are going to be down. Villa, Havana, and Array are the only three that even give you a legit shot at sniping. Compared to MW2 where there were only 3-4 maps that you couldn't snipe on.

[quote name='Trakan'] Maybe next time if you aren't referring to me crying then you should quote me when making that statement. The current state of the game and what people think should be tweaked/patched is discussion whether you like it or not.

Bottom line is if you don't like the complaining don't come in to this thread. I always gave you the benefit of the doubt, but after all these recent posts and now thinking back to that COD4 game I realize you have no idea what you're talking about. [/QUOTE]

Again your memory seems to fade pretty quick. Yesterday's post you said, "MVP, I know you think I am one of the whiners." Strange considering I hadn't said your name at all or quoted you in that. So obviously you must acknowledge that you are.

As for you not liking me, I could care a less... You aren't family members or close friends, so I could give two shits what you think of me. I'll start caring how you think of me when you become a client of mine.

Exactly what do you remember from the COD4 game? The fact that I didn't talk shit about it and stepped up when the time came and the two people who did talk shit didn't even bother to play and don't play with us to this day. Good memory I guess.

[quote name='SlimJim0725']...[/QUOTE]

Didn't you also quit playing MW2 because it was unbalanced and you weren't as good?
I just remember hearing that from people that we both had on our friend's list that said they would invite you and you said you didn't play it because you stuck with COD4 because it was easier.

[quote name='JohnBoy1280']... [/QUOTE]

That's actually kind of my whole point... People complain about every CoD game. There isn't going to be a perfect game. Each one is different and meant to be taken differently. If you say, "Oh well this was better because of this, and worse because of that... " Well then you are going to be disappointing yourself.

It's like comparing all FPS... CoD is not Halo, Halo is not CoD, and so on...
As for CoD, just because the name and the engine are similar doesn't mean the game is going to be the same.

[quote name='Soodmeg']I am not in this current battle (for once) but this interests me. What sort of discussion would you want to talk about? CODBO isnt really a game that spurs detailed discussion of the depths of the human soul.


I am not saying this to make fun because I honestly thought about it for a couple of minutes. Maybe people bitch because COD isnt really anything more than a popcorn game. You build a game this mainstream there is bound to be a lot of little things many people dont like. Maybe they didnt do enough to really create features and modes that would keep people happy for a long period of time. (IMPO its Treyarch best known for copying IW)

-The SP was forgettable proven by the fact that no one even talks about it.
-Zombie mode seems to have worn out its welcome (i never liked it in the first place) because no one seems to be talking about that at all.

-Dead Ops was cool for a couple minutes but once played was forgotten.

-The economy thing fell flat as the only people who cared about buying things that werent guns were people trying to make the most realistic dick for their emblem.



I dont know. I think the game is solidly average but maybe they didnt add enough things of substance to get people interested past a couple months. People expect more game and less gimmicks?

All I know is that I am really sick of map packs, DLC of actual substance would be nice.[/QUOTE]

For once I agree with most of what you said (highlighted everything I see eye to eye with you on).

While I agree with the SP being average, I know that it could still be discussed. But my main point was that you look earlier this week and someone (I think it was Interglastic) asked what were the guns of choice that people were using along with different load-outs. You know how many people answered it? 2... Maybe 3.

I mean that is a big part why I rarely post in the 360 threads anymore because they just turn into shit like this. I would rather just stick to the social group that I am usually in where shit is actually relevant and not constant complaints (and to some degree more active).

Lastly, DLC should be more than just maps, but unfortunately that is going to ride on Activision more than it does IW or Treyarch.
 
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[quote name='mvp828'] It'd be nice to be able to see a Call of Duty thread that isn't 90% complaining and 10% discussion... But I won't hold my breath.[/QUOTE]Yeah, let's have a serious discussion about the game! One that features ideology that states that whining about "whiners" (read: people who have legitimate concerns about the state of the game) isn't whining. One where hypocrisy runs rampant, and where you can only participate in said discussions after equipping the rosiest of rose-colored glasses and pretending that this game isn't broken as shit. Also, a thread where this game assumes the role of our biological father and any negative statements or opinions will be received as a personal attack and shall therefore be disregarded as pure blasphemy.

I'm dying to subscribe to that thread.

[quote name='mvp828']I guess it's my fault that I don't ride your dick like all your little cronies.

... You know the ones who hang on to your pockets every chance they get.[/QUOTE]I, for one, find it strange that you call out or ridicule Trakan for having friends/teammates with similar viewpoints as him while you consistently mention that you play with a group of friends, or "clients". You're coming off as the fat kid who always gets chosen last for the team during recess.

[quote name='mvp828']As for you not liking me, I could care a less...[/QUOTE]This pretty much sums up your existence in this thread. You should stick to your social groups and other clientele.
 
[quote name='mvp828']
Again, I highly doubt 90% of people you play against are using Ghost. As for people sitting in corners with Ghost... Isn't that why you play with a full group and have headsets. I know that there have been CAGs that invited you to play in the past, but you couldn't because well you only can play with a select few people... You know the ones who hang on to your pockets every chance they get.[/quote]

You keep bringing up full teams and headsets. Here's what happens:

Ghost f ag hides in a corner, kills person A.
Person A yells "fuckin' Ghost f ag, he's hiding in [insert location]
Person B goes and kills Ghost f ag

Ghost f ag respawns and hides in a new corner and the cycle begins anew. This is fun how?

Also God forbid he plays online games together with people he can tolerate and with people who play well together.

[quote name='mvp828']
As for you not liking me, I could care a less... You aren't family members or close friends, so I could give two shits what you think of me. I'll start caring how you think of me when you become a client of mine.[/quote]

You wrote an awful long reply to someone you don't care about.

[quote name='mvp828']
Exactly what do you remember from the COD4 game? The fact that I didn't talk shit about it and stepped up when the time came and the two people who did talk shit didn't even bother to play and don't play with us to this day. Good memory I guess.[/QUOTE]

You never got back to me on whether we could play you guys again. Get the SimonD funky bunch together again please.
 
Dont let this spiral out of control guys.


Really quick though, Panda. The phrase, "I dont care," does not mean he is completely void of any thought towards a subject. It simply means he doesnt take what is being presented to heart. As in he wont be pondering this moment for days on end.

I dont care about Paris Hilton but that doesnt keep me from thinking she is a slutty waste of space.

The interweb really uses that phrase in the wrong way.
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']Yeah, let's have a serious discussion about the game! One that features ideology that states that whining about "whiners" (read: people who have legitimate concerns about the state of the game) isn't whining. One where hypocrisy runs rampant, and where you can only participate in said discussions after equipping the rosiest of rose-colored glasses and pretending that this game isn't broken as shit. Also, a thread where this game assumes the role of our biological father and any negative statements or opinions will be received as a personal attack and shall therefore be disregarded as pure blasphemy.

I'm dying to subscribe to that thread.

I, for one, find it strange that you call out or ridicule Trakan for having friends/teammates with similar viewpoints as him while you consistently mention that you play with a group of friends, or "clients". You're coming off as the fat kid who always gets chosen last for the team during recess.

This pretty much sums up your existence in this thread. You should stick to your social groups and other clientele.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='A Happy Panda']Spent a awful long time writing a reply to someone you couldn't give two shits about unless they were your client.[/QUOTE]

Glad the Dick Riding Revolution was allowed to come out of the shadows to defend their master today. So how is it being the small elephants in the elephant walk?

Oh and X... "Clients" was in reference to saying that if you aren't a client of my business than I don't care what you think. You also should try to contradict yourself a little less... You say I talk about playing with my group, and then say I am the last person selected... So which is it? Am I friendless or do I have friends, because you seem to know me so well?
What it comes down to is that I don't care who I play with, because I don't think I'm better than anyone else... Unfortunately you guys have always made that impression on me, and many other CAGs that used to play with you.

Zewone and Panda, I like how you bring up something that happened back 3 years ago and act as if it is relevant still. Again, Simon and Twen talked shit and then never played... And to this day I would say I haven't played with either of them in as long. It is also funny that you act like it was a big feat to beat a group of people that had been playing games together for maybe 2 months at the time when you guys had been playing for what 4 years?
 
[quote name='mvp828']Glad the Dick Riding Revolution was allowed to come out of the shadows to defend their master today. So how is it being the small elephants in the elephant walk?

Oh and X... "Clients" was in reference to saying that if you aren't a client of my business than I don't care what you think. You also should try to contradict yourself a little less... You say I talk about playing with my group, and then say I am the last person selected... So which is it? Am I friendless or do I have friends, because you seem to know me so well?
What it comes down to is that I don't care who I play with, because I don't think I'm better than anyone else... Unfortunately you guys have always made that impression on me, and many other CAGs that used to play with you.[/QUOTE]

Because I agree with many of Trakan's opinions and call you out for spending so much time on replying to one of his post's when you say you could give two shits less what he thinks about you makes me a dick rider? And out of the shadows? I may not post as much as some others in here, but I have enough posts in this thread which outline the same issues that a lot of people in this thread have with this game.

If you want to play with random people, that's fine. I prefer to win, thus I play with a select group of people from CAG because I know we win 95% of the games we play.
 
[quote name='mvp828']Glad the Dick Riding Revolution was allowed to come out of the shadows to defend their master today. So how is it being the small elephants in the elephant walk?[/QUOTE]I'd gladly answer that, but I have little confidence in my ability to project my voice loud enough for you to hear me while atop your high horse.

[quote name='mvp828']Oh and X... "Clients" was in reference to saying that if you aren't a client of my business than I don't care what you think. You also should try to contradict yourself a little less... You say I talk about playing with my group, and then say I am the last person selected... So which is it? Am I friendless or do I have friends, because you seem to know me so well?[/QUOTE]If you just heard the sound of rustling wind blowing over your head, that was only the indication that you completely misunderstood what I said.

I'll break it down in neanderthal for you, as it appears to be your primary language: you are (at least) as quick as us, the Dick Riding Committee, to mention that you participate in CoD with your associates, clientele, customers, social club members, and patrons, yet you make fun of Trakan and the rest of us for all being like-minded individuals who share the same opinion and who support each others' arguments when being called into question or when subject to ridicule. You say you have these business contacts that you regularly play with, yet you point your finger of judgment at us as a whole for playing as a team. Also, for clarification's sake, saying that you are coming across as something/someone is not the same as saying you are something/someone.

So, to answer your question of whether A. You are friendless, or B. You have friends, I'm going to go with my gut and choose C. You are a hypocrite.

If this is a Short Answer question, then I choose C because of the fact that you complain about complainers while stating the absurdity of complaining, in addition to the 2nd paragraph in this part of my response.

[quote name='mvp828']What it comes down to is that I don't care who I play with, because I don't think I'm better than anyone else...[/QUOTE]As well you shouldn't think that you're better than anyone else, judging from your performance of yesteryear in Call of Duty 4. Something tells me that level of performance hasn't increased over the years.
 
[quote name='Ma12kez']Wow. This is my first time going into this thread and I can't stop laughing at the tags. Must be a good game.[/QUOTE]

You posted two of the tags and this is your first time in the thread, eh?
 
This has inspired me to unsubscribe from this thread. It was fun while it lasted boys. Maybe when MW4 is out our tunes will have changed? Probably not but whatever, I'm out.
 
[quote name='zewone']Excuses and tears.[/QUOTE]

Right... Excuses and tears. Just like the tears and excuses your boys have all displayed throughout this thread.

[quote name='A Happy Panda']Because I agree with many of Trakan's opinions and call you out for spending so much time on replying to one of his post's when you say you could give two shits less what he thinks about you makes me a dick rider? And out of the shadows? I may not post as much as some others in here, but I have enough posts in this thread which outline the same issues that a lot of people in this thread have with this game.

If you want to play with random people, that's fine. I prefer to win, thus I play with a select group of people from CAG because I know we win 95% of the games we play.[/QUOTE]

Oh and as for the whole dick-riders comment... I see it hit close to home because it sure did bring everyone out didn't it. That was before I even started quoting.

Apparently you missed the whole thing that Soodmeg pointed out... Just because I don't care what he thinks doesn't mean I'm not going to voice my opinion on how I think he's wrong. Yes, you may have some posts in here crying about the same thing over and over... You know what the difference is... Everyone else speaks their mind and moves on, you and your buddies continue to beat a dead horse. I mean if you want to complain that's fine and all, but to continue doing it when it's already done... What's the point of that. I bet you're one of those people that complains about the government and how everything is run and then doesn't go out and vote right?

[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']I'd gladly answer that, but I have little confidence in my ability to project my voice loud enough for you to hear me while atop your high horse.

If you just heard the sound of rustling wind blowing over your head, that was only the indication that you completely misunderstood what I said.

I'll break it down in neanderthal for you, as it appears to be your primary language: you are (at least) as quick as us, the Dick Riding Committee, to mention that you participate in CoD with your associates, clientele, customers, social club members, and patrons, yet you make fun of Trakan and the rest of us for all being like-minded individuals who share the same opinion and who support each others' arguments when being called into question or when subject to ridicule. You say you have these business contacts that you regularly play with, yet you point your finger of judgment at us as a whole for playing as a team. Also, for clarification's sake, saying that you are coming across as something/someone is not the same as saying you are something/someone.

So, to answer your question of whether A. You are friendless, or B. You have friends, I'm going to go with my gut and choose C. You are a hypocrite.

If this is a Short Answer question, then I choose C because of the fact that you complain about complainers while stating the absurdity of complaining, in addition to the 2nd paragraph in this part of my response.

As well you shouldn't think that you're better than anyone else, judging from your performance of yesteryear in Call of Duty 4. Something tells me that level of performance hasn't increased over the years.[/QUOTE]

You try to comment on my own reading comprehension when your own is way below average as it is. At what point did I say that I played with my clientele, patrons, etc? Pretty sure I never said that I played with them. I think you need to go back and consider re-enrolling your illiterate self in elementary school. Books are your friends, or maybe you are just a little brain damaged from getting slammed in the face by Trakan a few too many times.

I play with a different group of people pretty much nightly and I would say that the odds of winning are just as good as if I played with the same group. Hell, I rarely play with the same 5 people each night... But I still have a 8.4x W/L ratio. Even that number is skewed seeing as when a team dashboard you get credit for a loss regardless if the match had even started.

... And again. You go back to bring up COD4. Well, that did happen 3 years ago. I mean nothing changes in three years does it? But hey you keep living in the past, I'm sure it will get you far in life.
 
[quote name='mvp828']
Apparently you missed the whole thing that Soodmeg pointed out... Just because I don't care what he thinks doesn't mean I'm not going to voice my opinion on how I think he's wrong. [/QUOTE]

wat.

If you don't care what he thinks, why even voice your opinion on how you think his thinking's wrong?

This back and forth could've been avoided, but someone had to start name-calling.
 
Alrighty.

So I will be back when the thread gets back to normal. One more thing though. Again, not caring about something doesnt magically limit you from responding to it. The only reason why I am bringing it up is because its such a cop out tactic used solely on the interweb.

Again, I am not in this battle but seriously you are speaking directly to him it doesnt make sense for him not to respond. Just to keep facts here, the whole thing started when Trak responded directly to MVP when MVP was actual talking to PCK21. He also just general stated he was tired of bitching, he never mentioned any more person.

*Runs out of room to avoid da flames!
 
I want our team to play Simon D. and The Soul Patches (mvp, and whoever else was there) again.

During those games, my sinister meanstreak and I were laughing as hard as de Niro's character in Cape Fear when he was watching Problem Child.

Those guys smelled precisely like sweltering bum shit.
 
[quote name='mvp828']You try to comment on my own reading comprehension when your own is way below average as it is. At what point did I say that I played with my clientele, patrons, etc? Pretty sure I never said that I played with them. I think you need to go back and consider re-enrolling your illiterate self in elementary school. Books are your friends, or maybe you are just a little brain damaged from getting slammed in the face by Trakan a few too many times.[/QUOTE]Ooh boy, there must be a tsunami going on above your head right now. That brain's gotta be hurting.

Your inability to detect sarcasm and mockery has most certainly reached its apex throughout the duration of this thread. Since you are a true businessman at heart, I'll offer you a deal: I'll go through a list of elementary school candidates if you visit these websites and read through some brochures - AspergerPlanet.com and ScienceDaily.com Article - Living with Dementia.

[quote name='mvp828']I mean nothing changes in three years does it? But hey you keep living in the past, I'm sure it will get you far in life.[/QUOTE]On the contrary, some things can change over time. Such as your steady decline from this...

[quote name='mvp828']Can I pleassssseeeeee watch this game? Or be a fill in...

On another note... Why does this seem like it happened once before... Oh wait it did.

Trust me shit talker... They will wreck you no matter what the number.[/QUOTE]

...to your current psychopathic state, less than two months later.

Then again, you don't care about any of this. Or is it "you could care a less" about this conversation? I forget which one we're on now.
 
If you have an opinion, you do care. To truly not care for something, you shouldn't have an opinion, no matter how small. Its like a fucking Slurpee. Sure, if it's 3 in the morning and I'm driving past a 7-11, I just might stop in to buy one. Or I might not. I don't care. It's a fucking Slurpee.
 
But saying that you just might stop is having a thought about the slurpee. (Just like MVP has thoughts about COD)

By your logic passing a 7-11 should prompt no thought what so ever. Yeah, you dont care ultimately if you get one or not but you still had thoughts cross your mind about it. You just perfectly proved what I am saying. Point being that whether you get one or not has no long term baring on your life or thought process. That is the the common rule of saying "I dont care." Meaning its not important enough to fly into a rage or cry in utter happiness about it.

Just because he doesnt care about Trak opinion of him doesnt mean he forfeits any and all thoughts about him. It simply means he is not taking it to heart. Now if they continue to battle each other for a extend period of time then you can say he is either starting to care or was lying all along.
 
The thought is that Slurpees exist (To be more exact, "Hey, they have Slurpees. I may or may not want one. Eh, whatever."). That's not an opinion.

Now, if my thought process of buying said Slurpee was more intricate, such as whether I considered if I needed a Slurpee, had a craving for a Slurpee, if I had cash on me to buy a Slurpee, then yes, I would care.
 
But not all opinions are detailed and classified as caring. For example, my wife walks into room and asks "What pair of shoes should I wear."

I dont give a flying shit what shoes she puts on. Based on what I think you are saying, I must stand up and walk swiftly out of the room in response to the question. When in reality anyone would say, "The blue ones," that little 5 seconds of opinion doesnt mean you are deeply concerned with the makers of the shoe, how they go with her purse, whether they are warm enough.

You can not care about something and still have a tangible opinion of it. Now when you start to argue and prove that you are right...thats a different story.

Or hell, maybe this is way the world think Americans are the most selfish people on the planet. We walk around with no thoughts in our heads about anything unless we deem it the utmost importance.
 
@mvp828: Never told anyone I went back to COD4 because of it being easier than MW2. I went back when the game was first out and all the baby monitor people were around camping in corners with a silencer and cold-blooded (only game I didn't mind that in was COD4). Had nothing to do with the game being easier seeing as I still held around the same k/d and had a better win ratio even though I had different guys playing with us in MW2.

I still say COD4 is the best of any of the COD's and still will go back and play it every now and then, but that is because it is a game I can enjoy and not want to throw my controller because of all the consistent bullshit from Black Ops.
 
Ahem.

WHY CAN'T WEEEEE BE FRIENDS, WHY CAN'T WEEEE BE FRIENDS.

It's ridiculous how worked up you guys get at eachother over a videogame. If you enjoy MW2 more than Black Ops, play MW2. If you like COD4 more than those, play COD4. It really isn't that difficult.

There's no point in hating BO, playing it anyway and just bitching over and over.
 
[quote name='AlphaPanda']Ahem.

WHY CAN'T WEEEEE BE FRIENDS, WHY CAN'T WEEEE BE FRIENDS.

It's ridiculous how worked up you guys get at eachother over a videogame. If you enjoy MW2 more than Black Ops, play MW2. If you like COD4 more than those, play COD4. It really isn't that difficult.



There's no point in hating BO, playing it anyway and just bitching over and over.[/QUOTE]

AGREE!!!!!!!

This has to be the only COD community(meaning the whole COD community and not just CAG) i have ever scene that nit pick every part of the game. If people do complain about this game so much, why not trade it in or auction it off the next day.Get rid of the frustration first hand.....why bring yourselves back in to it.

i mean even games like Red Dead and Mass Effect have their short comings but people live with it. Why not live with this.

Again, regardless of the supposed shortcomings i still have fun with this game and I am having fun with my new favorite gun and class set up. I feel really good now....im posting games atop the team scores and still working for the objective. I know 23-8 with 3 caps and 2 defends in Dom is pretty much average but for me thats beast and i am happy with the improvement.
 
[quote name='AlphaPanda']Ahem.

WHY CAN'T WEEEEE BE FRIENDS, WHY CAN'T WEEEE BE FRIENDS.

It's ridiculous how worked up you guys get at eachother over a videogame. If you enjoy MW2 more than Black Ops, play MW2. If you like COD4 more than those, play COD4. It really isn't that difficult.

There's no point in hating BO, playing it anyway and just bitching over and over.[/QUOTE]

I haven't been playing Black Ops at all. The last time I played it was New Year's Eve at a party for the host of the party while I was drunk because he had to go play beer pong. Before that I hadn't played in a while either, but that doesn't change the fact that this game is shit and we as consumers have the right to complain about problems with the game.

The majority of my friends that I prefer to play with play Black Ops still, so why should I be forced to go play a game by myself due to the fact that Treyarch has some idiots working for them thinking their shit doesn't stink. By the way, I don't care to make friends over a forum, especially if they are just immature people that attack a person whether it be their style of play or whether it is the fact that some of us feel free to voice our opinion on a game and the Treyarch Defense Force comes out hating on us.
 
[quote name='Brak']I want our team to play Simon D. and The Soul Patches (mvp, and whoever else was there) again.

During those games, my sinister meanstreak and I were laughing as hard as de Niro's character in Cape Fear when he was watching Problem Child.

Those guys smelled precisely like sweltering bum shit.[/QUOTE]

Glad to see that your reading comprehension is right on par with that of Panda, Moojuice, and Executioner... Seeing as I already stated multiple times that 1) Simon never played in that match, as he flaked out before it even happened, 2) None of us have played with Simon in so long...

On another note, what is your infatuation with facial hair, I see you obviously have a thing for Simon's soul patch to go along with your Gerard Butler avatar... Have you not been getting enough moustache rides or something?

[quote name='A Happy Panda']wat.

If you don't care what he thinks, why even voice your opinion on how you think his thinking's wrong?

This back and forth could've been avoided, but someone had to start name-calling.[/QUOTE]

I think you need to learn to read a little bit better... Never did I say that I didn't care what he thinks about the game. See below for my exact quote.

As for the name calling, I believe I had made general statements and never quoted nor did I state any specific names. I think it is funny that Trak immediately took offense to the comment about the whiners in general, and you other dick riders had to come to his aid and fight his battle for him. I guess we knows who gets bent over in that group.

[quote name='moojuice']If you have an opinion, you do care. To truly not care for something, you shouldn't have an opinion, no matter how small. Its like a fucking Slurpee. Sure, if it's 3 in the morning and I'm driving past a 7-11, I just might stop in to buy one. Or I might not. I don't care. It's a fucking Slurpee.[/QUOTE]

Again see below for the exact quote... I'll highlight it in red so your illiterate asses can find it and have someone read it to you.

[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']Ooh boy, there must be a tsunami going on above your head right now. That brain's gotta be hurting.

Your inability to detect sarcasm and mockery has most certainly reached its apex throughout the duration of this thread. Since you are a true businessman at heart, I'll offer you a deal: I'll go through a list of elementary school candidates if you visit these websites and read through some brochures - AspergerPlanet.com and ScienceDaily.com Article - Living with Dementia.

On the contrary, some things can change over time. Such as your steady decline from this...



...to your current psychopathic state, less than two months later.

Then again, you don't care about any of this. Or is it "you could care a less" about this conversation? I forget which one we're on now.[/QUOTE]

You seem to be forgetting what that whole conversation was about... The other person was talking shit about skill and saying that he would wreck you with randoms. I was showing you guys some respect, which in hindsight was a huge mistake since you guys have proven to be less deserving of respect than a one-cent crack whore.

Oh and I'll be sure to check out those sites right as soon as you guys check out some of these I found for you...
http://www.rosettastone.com/learn-english
http://www.hookedonphonics.com/ (It worked for my 5 year-old niece, so I'm sure it could work for you too)

[quote name='mvp828']
As for you not liking me, I could care a less...
[/QUOTE]

[quote name='SlimJim0725']@mvp828: Never told anyone I went back to COD4 because of it being easier than MW2. I went back when the game was first out and all the baby monitor people were around camping in corners with a silencer and cold-blooded (only game I didn't mind that in was COD4). Had nothing to do with the game being easier seeing as I still held around the same k/d and had a better win ratio even though I had different guys playing with us in MW2.

I still say COD4 is the best of any of the COD's and still will go back and play it every now and then, but that is because it is a game I can enjoy and not want to throw my controller because of all the consistent bullshit from Black Ops.[/QUOTE]

Gotcha... I was just saying what I was told. That was also early on in the game, so I didn't know that you went back to the game.

[quote name='integralsmatic']AGREE!!!!!!!

This has to be the only COD community(meaning the whole COD community and not just CAG) i have ever scene that nit pick every part of the game. If people do complain about this game so much, why not trade it in or auction it off the next day.Get rid of the frustration first hand.....why bring yourselves back in to it.

i mean even games like Red Dead and Mass Effect have their short comings but people live with it. Why not live with this.[/QUOTE]

^This

[quote name='SlimJim0725']I haven't been playing Black Ops at all. The last time I played it was New Year's Eve at a party for the host of the party while I was drunk because he had to go play beer pong. Before that I hadn't played in a while either, but that doesn't change the fact that this game is shit and we as consumers have the right to complain about problems with the game.

The majority of my friends that I prefer to play with play Black Ops still, so why should I be forced to go play a game by myself due to the fact that Treyarch has some idiots working for them thinking their shit doesn't stink. By the way, I don't care to make friends over a forum, especially if they are just immature people that attack a person whether it be their style of play or whether it is the fact that some of us feel free to voice our opinion on a game and the Treyarch Defense Force comes out hating on us.[/QUOTE]

Voicing your opinion and beating a dead horse are two different things. For some people in this thread that latter is all they know how to do.

As for defending Treyarch... I wouldn't say I'm defending Treyarch as I am more just trying to point out that no game is perfect. All in all, you could say I defended MW2, to a certain extent, when these same people got their panties up in a bunch then. Crapping on a game over CAG isn't going to get shit done. If it really bothers you that much write a letter or email to the company (or in the other guys case, have someone write one for you).

Again I go back to the whole thing, if you don't like a game than don't play it. Just like I said before, it's the same as politics... If you don't like what's going on, than you vote for a change.
 
[quote name='mvp828']A clear example of "not caring".[/QUOTE]Yet again, the margin between your ability to understand what is being said to you and your level of maturity has widened beyond measure. This will be my last post concerning your regretful existence in this thread and on this site. The time has come for me to end my part in derailing this thread.

Your entire platform has been flawed from the get-go. Neither Trakan or anyone from the group of people you so childishly refer to as the Dick Riders have been "crying" about this game, at all. If we make a post in here talking about Ghost's supremacy, the terrible balance of the guns, the shitty netcode, etc. its because we're showing concern about the state and future of the game. We play this game for hours nearly every day, just like our group has for Modern Warfare 2 and just like we did for Call of Duty 4 - we have plenty of experience with the franchise and we know what makes a good game and what doesn't. The fact that Treyarch barely recognizes some glaring problems with the gameplay, while correcting the most minor of issues, is a concern for us because we enjoy playing the game so much. Even with the plethora of problems that plague this current game, we still enjoy it and know that if some of these outstanding issues are resolved then it would be an amazing game.

Stating these issues and their need for resolution is not crying and it is not whining. Do we do it fairly often? Yes. I know that I bring up the issue every time there is a new patch that doesn't resolve these problems. Is it beating a dead horse? No. If Treyarch continues to stand by the idea that they listen to their supporters and attempt to fix major problems with the game, then we're going to keep being vocal about these problems. If anything, we're being proactive as well as good consumers because we want this product to be as good as it can be. Your stance is to sit idly on your ass and accept mediocrity, which is not only lazy but it ultimately hurts said product. If Treyarch doesn't hear these opinions, how are they going to know to fix something? If no one had spoken up about the Hardline Pro perk, would it have gotten patched? What about the lobby system? What about the Chopper Gunner and Gunship killstreaks? Why are you so against the idea of Treyarch making the game better? We want this game to be as good as much as the next guy, and we're not going to let some illogical "no game is perfect, so why should this be any different?" rationalization be an excuse for us to just accept the way that things are.

If your main problem is that you don't agree with our posts, then simply say you don't agree and move on. If your problem is that you don't like the frequency of our posts, follow your own line of thinking and either ignore us or leave the thread and stick to your social groups. Stirring up the bee hive does nothing but completely ruin your utopian dreams of a Call of Duty thread full of lively discussion. For your own sake, stop sitting there on your righteous throne and pretending like you are not to blame (even partially) for derailing this thread like we have, and quit trying to appear innocent by saying "I didn't even quote you before I replied" - you've had one person or one group in mind as you've been typing these posts, and you're full of shit if you say otherwise.

That, in a nutshell, is our reasoning for posting here: because we want this game to be better than it currently is. For this game to have any longevity, the core problems must be fixed - and having people say "just accept it" is something that none of us paid $50-60 to hear.

The thing that makes absolutely no sense in this situation is your presence in the thread. The very things you are complaining about are the things you are actively participating in and continuing. The worst part is that you don't even realize it and, if you did, I'd go as far as to say that you'd willfully deny it. Under a barrage of replies, you have yet to recognize (not even once) that you are showcasing some of the most hypocritical posts that I think I have ever witnessed for myself. You have "beaten a dead horse" by continuing to complain about something that we were never even truly doing, and you have helped turn this into an all-out brawl. You comment on our comprehension with each new post, yet it is you who is failing to understand any of my posts. Hell, you can't even spell my username correctly when referring to me - it's obvious that you are not paying attention to anything being said, and that you're simply hell bent on putting us in our place or some equally shitty vendetta. You constantly deflect and/or ignore everything that's being said to you, and then follow it up with your cheesy, immature jokes about us "getting slammed by Trakan" or being "dick riders" who "deserve less respect than a one-cent crack whore" and that we get "bent over", etc. Who are you trying to impress with this shit? Any reasonable person can see that you've completely lost it and have stooped well below our level for reasons unknown.

But, of course you're going to retreat behind your fortress of "I don't care" - which is really the highlight of all of this. You're just like jkanownik before he challenged us to play, just like the guy a few weeks ago who repeatedly called us "pubstars", and you're just like the guy who in a few weeks will pick up the torch that your insignificant ass leaves behind to continue the cycle of starting shit up with us. You're all the same to us, and you will all accomplish absolutely nothing each time one of you decides that it's necessary to start banging on the war drums once again.

It was fun to bask in your ignorance and your sudden decline into insanity at first, but one really does start to lose interest when the target of your mockery and verbal abuse so far exceeds the predetermined line of mental deficiency that society would find acceptable to make fun of.

Feel free to not care enough to get the last word in by quoting this and running down your list of 6th grade level jokes about what sexual acts I perform with Trakan and the rest of our group. I can't wait for you to prove my point for me, yet again.

This is all I have to say to you.
 
[quote name='mvp828']Glad to see that your reading comprehension is right on par with that of Panda, Moojuice, and Executioner... Seeing as I already stated multiple times that 1) Simon never played in that match, as he flaked out before it even happened, 2) None of us have played with Simon in so long...

On another note, what is your infatuation with facial hair, I see you obviously have a thing for Simon's soul patch to go along with your Gerard Butler avatar... Have you not been getting enough moustache rides or something?[/QUOTE]
I never said Simon D. played -- It was implied that he was your leader.

And you fall back on alluding that I'm gay... lolllllllllllllll
 
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