Call of Duty Black OPS

[quote name='Ziv']I just got a double team kill with a runaway Strella-3. I'm shooting down a cobra. First rocket goes up, flares come out. Second rocket goes up, misses and circles back toward the helicopter. Then it takes a wicked 45 degree turn when it's just about to hit the top of the helo and slams into two of my friends.

Unbelievable. I rage quit when that happened before I got kicked for a third team kill.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='SlimJim0725']I honestly have never even heard of that happening and I have seen some of the most outrageous things in the game happen. It should still be in your recent games, you should throw it in file share and upload it (render it to follow the rocket that hit them).[/QUOTE]

I had something similar happen to me back in MW2... I was on Favela on the stairs leading up to the unfinished building and shot a stinger at either a attack chopper or pavelow (can't remember which) and the rocket went over the top of the chopper looped back and went under it and hit me right in the face. I wasn't even mad... I was actually pretty impressed.

[quote name='woodcan']I was really proud of this Tomahawk kill :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tNcgPJoXcY[/QUOTE]

Very nice Flesh.
 
I was pissed off over the game we were playing anyway. I hate CTF and the other team was capping flags pretty damn fast. This after several other bad games. I had just had enough so I dashboarded and watched some netflix. I checked today because I wanted to rewatch the clip and upload it, but it wasn't there. I guess it's because I dashboarded.

I've seen the Strella-3 miss before. That wasn't shocking. It happens a lot more than it should though.
 
[quote name='Ziv']I was pissed off over the game we were playing anyway. I hate CTF and the other team was capping flags pretty damn fast. This after several other bad games. I had just had enough so I dashboarded and watched some netflix. I checked today because I wanted to rewatch the clip and upload it, but it wasn't there. I guess it's because I dashboarded.

I've seen the Strella-3 miss before. That wasn't shocking. It happens a lot more than it should though.[/QUOTE]

Even dashboarding it should have been in your recent games as far as I am aware, the only thing dashboarding does is keep it from affecting your k/d and win streak (you still get a loss).
 
lol @ tags

So I'm confused.
Prestige/Hardened edition users get all the maps for free, even including Moon?
The updated Zombie maps are the same on my disc, or did they change stuff?
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']lol @ tags

So I'm confused.
Prestige/Hardened edition users get all the maps for free, even including Moon?
The updated Zombie maps are the same on my disc, or did they change stuff?[/QUOTE]

Rather than make it a separate piece of DLC, they are just going to update the Hardened/Prestige DLC and start selling it, so all you have to do on the day of it's release is delete the DLC you already downloaded and then re-download it, since you already own it and won't have to buy it.
 
So I got the COD Elite info and got logged in and checked out the site and it's a lot of damn info. Most say it looks like Bungie's but I really prob only logged in there 2-3 times so I can't really compare but Elite is really a lot of stats that I won't really look at very often but will check it out more when I get some free time this weekend.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Why do I continue to subject myself to this torture?[/QUOTE]

Shotguns seem to be very hit or miss for me. Sometimes I hit a person once and they drop, other times I hit them 4-5 times to drop them (if I am lucky enough to get that many shots off). I seem to be downed by 2 at a minimum from almost any distance. I got killed once through the truck on Nuketown by one Olympia shot when the guy that shot was at the corner of the house and I had no been damaged even. I had it in my file share at one point and showed it to a few people, they just laughed since I had shown them a previous video of me putting the barrel of I believe a Stakeout in a guys chest, pulled the trigger, got him markers, and then got knifed when he managed to run through it to lunge backwards and knife.
 
thats why i hate black ops. shoddy hit detection. i cant tell you how many times i run clear around corners but still end up dying. Then i see the enemy kill cam and they just shoot the corner with me already around it and they kill me. i never had that problem with the SPAS but this game has its real crappy points. What was your connection by the way Trakan?
 
[quote name='Trakan']I was host, lol.[/QUOTE]

Maybe there was too much distance between you? Or, maybe you were just unlucky and the spread of the shots weren't hitting him at all.
 
[quote name='Trakan']I was host, lol.[/QUOTE]

That tends to be my curse as well. IDK what it is, but when I am host I am either amazing or I can't bring an enemy down with dropping like half my bullets in them. I watched someone playing at my house the other day (they brought their account) and while they had host I saw them get like 10 hit markers in a row without killing an enemy. I will say that he was shooting through a wall, but they were pretty rapidly popping up and I know that had it been me getting shot I would have died in probably half that.
 
Probably the wrong area but, my gamertag is Jabrim and I don't have a lot of people that I know that play Black Ops, so if you want to play, look me up on XBox live.
 
No Second Chance or Ghost? Just in short, he made a mode for a bunch of impatient babies who couldn't handle putting one bullet in somebody on the floor (with a pistol BTW) or not being able to see the entire team when they get a 3-kill streak. Sounds great :rofl:
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']No Second Chance or Ghost? Just in short, he made a mode for a bunch of impatient babies who couldn't handle putting one bullet in somebody on the floor (with a pistol BTW) or not being able to see the entire team when they get a 3-kill streak. Sounds great :rofl:[/QUOTE]

Actually, my main problem with Ghost is the removal of the name above the head. Seriously, people just go prone in the middle of a random location now and I'll think it's a corpse until they kill me, it's bullshit.

And Second Chance is bullshit because of the invincibility frames. Most of my deaths to people using it is when they shoot or knife me while they are falling into it. It's retarded, and why I like using shotguns so damn much.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']No Second Chance or Ghost? Just in short, he made a mode for a bunch of impatient babies who couldn't handle putting one bullet in somebody on the floor (with a pistol BTW) or not being able to see the entire team when they get a 3-kill streak. Sounds great :rofl:[/QUOTE]

Many people dislike those 2 perks, it isn't just "a bunch of impatient babies" that dislike it. I don't need spy plane to destroy a team, I don't even struggle that much with second chance users even when there are multiple enemies around. However, they are the 2 most overused and obnoxious perks in the game and I gladly welcome the new game mode. Maybe there will be more competition to the matches if and when the game mode releases and I play it, ghost/second chance users are usually the worst players in the match anyways.

Most ghost users sit and hide in random corners doing very little to be helpful to their team (don't shoot down air support that can't see them, etc). As for second chance, that is a perk for bad players that die a lot anyways and should not have been a perk in any COD. You can enjoy your matches of ghost/second chance while people like myself will be glad to play the express game mode.
 
Second Chance is not entirely for people who die a lot, as it is basically a last ditch effort to get one or two more kills and if you have SC Pro then there is a good chance of being picked up and brought back to life. Like I have always said, if you can't kill somebody you can't see on radar then you just plain suck.

If you can't put one more bullet into somebody lying on the floor with a pistol, you, just, plain, suck... My K/D ratio while within Second Chance is about .90. That is way too good considering I only need to be hit with one bullet before dying. People just don't like getting killed by somebody lying on the floor with a pistol.
 
Says somebody who gets killed via SC more often then you would like. The idea is simple here. If you cannot put ONE bullet into somebody ON THE FLOOR with a PISTOL, you are terrible.

Even a flash or smoke or nova gas will work as well and you don't even have to hit him cleanly. Just throw the grenade CLOSE to the guy on the floor. If you can't do any of that, you just plain suck.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']Says somebody who gets killed via SC more often then you would like. The idea is simple here. If you cannot put ONE bullet into somebody ON THE FLOOR with a PISTOL, you are terrible.

Even a flash or smoke or nova gas will work as well and you don't even have to hit him cleanly. Just throw the grenade CLOSE to the guy on the floor. If you can't do any of that, you just plain suck.[/QUOTE]

If you can't get a kill with your ORIGINAL life and NEED TWO LIVES TO GET A SINGLE KILL then you suck ass at this game.

There's a reason its called Second Chance, because you suck shit at this game and need a SECOND CHANCE to get a kill when you ALREADY DIED.
 
Why is it that people only talk about the person USING Second Chance and not the person getting killed by people in SC? If you want to say having two lifes makes you suck, then fine you can say that all you want but don't dispute the fact that if you are getting killed by SC users so often it pisses you off, YOU SUCK.

I agree the vast majority of SC users suck, but there are a select few that can tear fools up when they drop into SC, then get picked back up. Those guys obviously don't suck, even if they are using a perk that most poor players use.
 
What part of you DYING FIRST meaning YOU SUCK MORE do you not understand?

And i Never said I get killed often by second chance users, did I?

I guess Second Chance users are just THAT delusional...no wonder they suck so much.
 
SC is not a big deal... I personally don't use it as my normal third perk, and have maybe used it a few times just to get the pro version.

I'm definitely going to agree with Krak on this... It takes pretty much no effort to kill a SC user. I would say 90% of the time they never even hit the ground to get a chance to shoot. All you have to do is shoot till you get the kill points and move on. It's not rocket science, so you use a few extra bullets big deal... That's what scavenger is for. I'd be willing to bet that I might get killed 1 time every 30 or so matches from an SC user and it's usually because I either A) don't have cover nearby, or B) came across a group and was just trying to get as many of them as I can.
 
[quote name='mvp828']SC is not a big deal... I personally don't use it as my normal third perk, and have maybe used it a few times just to get the pro version.

I'm definitely going to agree with Krak on this... It takes pretty much no effort to kill a SC user. I would say 90% of the time they never even hit the ground to get a chance to shoot. All you have to do is shoot till you get the kill points and move on. It's not rocket science, so you use a few extra bullets big deal... That's what scavenger is for. I'd be willing to bet that I might get killed 1 time every 30 or so matches from an SC user and it's usually because I either A) don't have cover nearby, or B) came across a group and was just trying to get as many of them as I can.[/QUOTE]

Groups of second chance, invincibility deaths (when they can't be hurt and either get a bs knife or shoot me with their primary as they drop) and laggy matches with second chance are the only times I have any issue with the perk honestly. I played on a UK host the other day and with the lag myself and the enemy that had second chance had (both of us were US) I couldn't even tell when he was falling into second chance because of the delay. He killed me twice falling into second chance with his primary weapon and once in the back (luckily that was 3 of maybe 7 deaths).

I am not siding on either side, I think SC is a horrible perk and I have thought that since COD4. I never had an issue with Jammer (Ghost) until they took out stopping power and left that tier unbalanced at least for the less skilled players. They have no reason to use any other perk since they give up so many UAV's anyways that they need to be seen less.

@Krak: I hope you were not referring to me saying that "I suck" at any point, I can promise you that I am far above average at the game though I will never claim to be good after playing with many players better than myself. I still stick by saying ghost and second chance are for bad players, you shouldn't need 2 lives to have a chance to kill your enemy, I know I don't.

Edit: BTW, a .90 with second chance is really not that impressive, it is average at best. I'd ask you your stats, but I am sure they will impress me about as much as the .90 in second chance.
 
[quote name='SlimJim0725']Groups of second chance, invincibility deaths (when they can't be hurt and either get a bs knife or shoot me with their primary as they drop) and laggy matches with second chance are the only times I have any issue with the perk honestly. I played on a UK host the other day and with the lag myself and the enemy that had second chance had (both of us were US) I couldn't even tell when he was falling into second chance because of the delay. He killed me twice falling into second chance with his primary weapon and once in the back (luckily that was 3 of maybe 7 deaths).

I am not siding on either side, I think SC is a horrible perk and I have thought that since COD4. I never had an issue with Jammer (Ghost) until they took out stopping power and left that tier unbalanced at least for the less skilled players. They have no reason to use any other perk since they give up so many UAV's anyways that they need to be seen less.

@Krak: I hope you were not referring to me saying that "I suck" at any point, I can promise you that I am far above average at the game though I will never claim to be good after playing with many players better than myself. I still stick by saying ghost and second chance are for bad players, you shouldn't need 2 lives to have a chance to kill your enemy, I know I don't.

Edit: BTW, a .90 with second chance is really not that impressive, it is average at best. I'd ask you your stats, but I am sure they will impress me about as much as the .90 in second chance.[/QUOTE]

No I wasn't referring to you in any way, and also while .90 with SC isn't fantastic I do believe it is quite high considering I need to hit my enemy 5-8 times before they die and they only need to tap me with anything to kill me.

As far as my stats go, I am I believe 5th or 6th prestige and have a 1.65 K/D ratio. I often pull 2-1/3-1 games, but I have trouble getting my K/D up since I was only pulling 2-1/3-1 games after about 20K kills.
 
[quote name='willc23']Express now in playlist after title update.[/QUOTE]

Just played it, was immediately thrown into Headquarters, and quit after I realized that nobody on my team was going for the HQ except for me. I hate mixed playlists.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']No I wasn't referring to you in any way, and also while .90 with SC isn't fantastic I do believe it is quite high considering I need to hit my enemy 5-8 times before they die and they only need to tap me with anything to kill me.

As far as my stats go, I am I believe 5th or 6th prestige and have a 1.65 K/D ratio. I often pull 2-1/3-1 games, but I have trouble getting my K/D up since I was only pulling 2-1/3-1 games after about 20K kills.[/QUOTE]

i wonder what everyone else's k/d ratio is.....
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']I need to hit my enemy 5-8 times before they die and they only need to tap me with anything to kill me.[/QUOTE]


[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']No Second Chance or Ghost? Just in short, he made a mode for a bunch of impatient babies who couldn't handle putting one bullet in somebody on the floor (with a pistol BTW)[/QUOTE]


so which is it
 
[quote name='timesplitt']so which is it[/QUOTE]

He said that it takes 1 bullet to kill an enemy in second chance and when he is in second chance himself it takes him 5-8 bullets to kill his enemy.

[quote name='yahoosale14']i wonder what everyone else's k/d ratio is.....[/QUOTE]

K/D doesn't mean much IMO since it is easily faked. Now if someone has a fairly high win/loss and a high k/d that usually means something to me. I personally have a 7.30+ win/loss (I would say around half my losses came from a host rage quit) and a 2.98 k/d, but a high k/d can mean a lot of things. They could only play an objective mode and spawn kill (typically done in demolition), use high kill streaks and just rack up kills in ground war domination, etc. I used to change up my 3rd killstreak (I always used spy plane and blackbird), but now I only run spy plane, counter spy plane, and blackbird unless I play Sabotage where I use spy, counter, and napalm. I also just broke 30,000 kills and I think I am 10th prestige if it makes any difference, but I am sure there are some people on CAG that have far better stats than myself.

@Krak: That is fine then, you just replied to my post and I saw the words "you suck" thrown around a couple of times in there. By the way, you shouldn't need 5-8 shots with a pistol to kill anyone even if you are in last stand. It takes maybe 3-4 Makarov shots to kill an enemy and 2-3 Python shots and it should be even less in last stand since you should be able to get some hits before hand if you are going to get a kill.

Edit: Just saw the post about Express being mixed playlist and I wont lie that may deter me from playing it. I was hopeful that they would allow you to select the gametype for that mode, I don't really care for a few gametypes though I would likely be willing to deal with anything other than S&D.
 
[quote name='SlimJim0725']
Edit: Just saw the post about Express being mixed playlist and I wont lie that may deter me from playing it. I was hopeful that they would allow you to select the gametype for that mode, I don't really care for a few gametypes though I would likely be willing to deal with anything other than S&D.[/QUOTE]

I played Express a little bit last night, and was having a lot of fun with it. Now that you mention it though, I don't think I ever saw S&D come up in it for voting even. We played mostly Domination, TDM, and before I joined my friends I played a couple matches of CTF.
 
They had express TDM I believe back on MW2? I would like to see that brought into BO along with the removal of ghost and SC. That would be great.

[quote name='yahoosale14']i wonder what everyone else's k/d ratio is.....[/QUOTE]

A really nice feature of Call of Duty Elite Beta so far is to be able to look up anyone's career stats regardless if they are part of the Beta.
 
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[quote name='SlimJim0725']
K/D doesn't mean much IMO since it is easily faked. Now if someone has a fairly high win/loss and a high k/d that usually means something to me. I personally have a 7.30+ win/loss (I would say around half my losses came from a host rage quit) and a 2.98 k/d, but a high k/d can mean a lot of things. They could only play an objective mode and spawn kill (typically done in demolition), use high kill streaks and just rack up kills in ground war domination, etc. I used to change up my 3rd killstreak (I always used spy plane and blackbird), but now I only run spy plane, counter spy plane, and blackbird unless I play Sabotage where I use spy, counter, and napalm. I also just broke 30,000 kills and I think I am 10th prestige if it makes any difference, but I am sure there are some people on CAG that have far better stats than myself.

@Krak: That is fine then, you just replied to my post and I saw the words "you suck" thrown around a couple of times in there. By the way, you shouldn't need 5-8 shots with a pistol to kill anyone even if you are in last stand. It takes maybe 3-4 Makarov shots to kill an enemy and 2-3 Python shots and it should be even less in last stand since you should be able to get some hits before hand if you are going to get a kill.

Edit: Just saw the post about Express being mixed playlist and I wont lie that may deter me from playing it. I was hopeful that they would allow you to select the gametype for that mode, I don't really care for a few gametypes though I would likely be willing to deal with anything other than S&D.[/QUOTE]

That is true about W/L and K/D making differences. I am certain that if I hadn't jumped so hard into the online without having much skill or knowhow of the maps that I would have a 2-1 K/D or better. As far as how many shots it takes to kill somebody, I rarely run the Makarov (usually have anti-air weapons or a Crossbow) so with the standard pistol it takes a good amount of shots to kill somebody. Include lag problems with that and I am lucky to get a kill with an entire clip sometimes.
 
I have to agree with Krak and Slim. I am much more focused on my W/L and Score/Minute than my K/D. That being said, usually if you can get those two up you are going to have a good K/D.

That being said I mostly play TDM (285 hrs), Domination (85 hrs), Sabotage (22 hrs), and all others (28 hrs).

TDM I have held a K/D of 2 and a SPM of 302.94
Domination I have held a SPM of 251.68 and average 1 capture or defend every 5.6 kills

Overall I have a 6.15 W/L and 2.01 K/D
 
[quote name='mvp828']I have to agree with Krak and Slim. I am much more focused on my W/L and Score/Minute than my K/D. That being said, usually if you can get those two up you are going to have a good K/D.

That being said I mostly play TDM (285 hrs), Domination (85 hrs), Sabotage (22 hrs), and all others (28 hrs).

TDM I have held a K/D of 2 and a SPM of 302.94
Domination I have held a SPM of 251.68 and average 1 capture or defend every 5.6 kills

Overall I have a 6.15 W/L and 2.01 K/D[/QUOTE]

I don't know how you got those breakdowns by gametype, but here's my stats. Maybe it's an elite thing?

Overall I have a 14.94 W/L and a 3.13 K/D. I really wish they'd fix the whole host dashboarding equals a loss bullshit. I know at least half of my losses comes from that. Lately I've been pulling host a lot though, so it hasn't been such a big problem.
 
[quote name='mvp828']I have to agree with Krak and Slim. I am much more focused on my W/L and Score/Minute than my K/D. That being said, usually if you can get those two up you are going to have a good K/D.

That being said I mostly play TDM (285 hrs), Domination (85 hrs), Sabotage (22 hrs), and all others (28 hrs).

TDM I have held a K/D of 2 and a SPM of 302.94
Domination I have held a SPM of 251.68 and average 1 capture or defend every 5.6 kills

Overall I have a 6.15 W/L and 2.01 K/D[/QUOTE]

i wonder if slim jim mostly plays tdm too. i mostly played objective gametypes in MW2 and W/Ls that high were unheard of iirc.

im assuming you guys always roll with a group?
 
My stats: Overall W/L 6.25 and Overall K/D 2.51. I can't say overall SPM amounts to too much in TDM without a decent K/D because I've seen plenty of people at the top of the leaderboard that go negative and/or have the most deaths (i.e. worst K/D). For instance, in a lobby last night there was a person with a weekly TDM SPM just over mine of 300 but his K/D for the week was around 1. So, that means he was getting a lot of kills but also dying a lot.

506 HRS PLAYED
TEAM DEATHMATCH
432 HOURS
DOMINATION
49 HOURS
DEMOLITION
6 HOURS
OTHER
19 HOURS

In general, I hate playing Domination since most people don't know how to hold points, keep the enemy from spawning behind you, or communicate when they are taking the 3rd point so you know to expect the enemy to spawn behind you. Probably 90% of my matches in Domination were because we were in a group over 6 people.


[quote name='Trakan']I don't know how you got those breakdowns by gametype, but here's my stats. Maybe it's an elite thing?[/QUOTE]
Yep, it's an Elite thing.

Your stats are:
TEAM DEATHMATCH
192 HOURS
DOMINATION
103 HOURS
HEADQUARTERS
24 HOURS
OTHER
51 HOURS
 
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