[quote name='SeanAmI122886']i got a new 20 GB 4th Gen at Frys for $220 with tax[/quote]
Wow, which one did you get at? If I found one that cheap, I might get it over the iRiver.
To Alfonso, I advise you look at all the other mp3 players out there (especially iRiver h120). Same price, you get a remote, longer battery life, better sound quality (both players are great), and it has nothing to install on your computer (the best part for me since I find iTunes a little tedious). Just a recommendation, have to say the iPod is a good player. Also might want to check out a Dell DJ and other players like that...