Convinced PS2's are made to break.

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crazybaboony2k

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I dont know... Maybe its just me. I really think that PS2's are supposed to last a certain ammount of time and than just stop so you have to buy a new one. Hardly anywhere offers repair on them too. Another ironic thing. We get a defective PS2 at least twice a week it seems. May not always be true but thats what it feels like. Proud to be an XBOX fan. With its massive size I feel more comfortable about its lifetime. I mean look how long John Candy lived.
 
Yeah, they're not very reliable in longevity. A friend of mine has gone through at least seven of them (repairs, replacements, etc.).
 
I've owned one since launch.. it's been dropped (which messed up the controller ports, I took it apart and had to manually realign it), been in the cold, been on trips, been in my posession, been in my brother's posession.. no problems out of it.
 
Actually, GC is probably the most durable of them all. XPlay did a durability test on all 3 consoles. They slammed the consoles with a sledge hammer and dropped them from a high up distance and afterwards would see if the console would boot up. PS2 died after the sledge hammer part. XBOX died after dropping it. GC managed to boot every time.
 
[quote name='crazybaboony2k']I dont know... Maybe its just me. I really think that PS2's are supposed to last a certain ammount of time and than just stop so you have to buy a new one. Hardly anywhere offers repair on them too. Another ironic thing. We get a defective PS2 at least twice a week it seems. May not always be true but thats what it feels like. Proud to be an XBOX fan. With its massive size I feel more comfortable about its lifetime. I mean look how long John Candy lived.[/quote]

Had mine like 3 months after launch... I did get a DRE buy used a DVD lens cleaner disc to fix it... also that XBOX thing isnt true, one of my friend's had an XBOX that got DDE's.... and when I bought my XBOX, it was defective, sent it in over the chirstmas break got back a new XBOX... I think because it has a philips drive and it doesn't freeze like before, so im good. but it does make a bit louder sound.

Also, sony offers free repairs for DRE's if you haven't:

!. opened it.
2. modded it.
3.phisically damaged it.

Thats something XBOX doesn't do... BTW, my friend sold that XBOX to another friend for 40 and he sent it in, should come anyday now....
 
[quote name='dschroll']Actually, GC is probably the most durable of them all. XPlay did a durability test on all 3 consoles. They slammed the consoles with a sledge hammer and dropped them from a high up distance and afterwards would see if the console would boot up. PS2 died after the sledge hammer part. XBOX died after dropping it. GC managed to boot every time.[/quote]

I remember that, do you have the link to it anymore?
 
[quote name='Scorch']Pfft. The XBox is bulletproof.[/quote]

I thought the same thing....until I tried it....

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[quote name='davidmt']Never had a problem with Playstation, PS1, or Playstation 2. All were bought at launch. I must be lucky.[/quote]

Or, you don't mistreat your console by:

1.putting drinks on it.
2. putting it on the carpet.
3. keeping it near dust.
4. put it on the edge of a table so that if you pull the controller it will fall
5.etc.
 
[quote name='WarrenGekko']I have had mine since the launch in 1999 and NEVER had problems. Made to last[/quote]

That's great, but Ps2 didn't launch in 99.
 
[quote name='help1'][quote name='davidmt']Never had a problem with Playstation, PS1, or Playstation 2. All were bought at launch. I must be lucky.[/quote]

Or, you don't mistreat your console by:

1.putting drinks on it.
2. putting it on the carpet.
3. keeping it near dust.
4. put it on the edge of a table so that if you pull the controller it will fall
5.etc.[/quote]

You're aware that the system will fail regardless of typical "care" treatment, right?
 
[quote name='help1'][quote name='Scorch']Pfft. The XBox is bulletproof.[/quote]

I thought the same thing....until I tried it....

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I thought that I had photoshoping skills

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[quote name='Sartori'][quote name='WarrenGekko']I have had mine since the launch in 1999 and NEVER had problems. Made to last[/quote]

That's great, but Ps2 didn't launch in 99.[/quote]

That's right! I've had it since launch whenever that was
 
I had my PS2 stored in a open area on my wood cabinet and kept it clean. Whadda ya know DRE, I had to send the piece into Sony THREE times before they actually sent me one that worked. My Xbox also gave me a disc read problem, the light turned red and I was told to send it to MS, so I gave it to my friend and bought a new one. Well it's worked fine ever since I gave it to him, but it's all good. My GC has never given me problems, but I do play it the least.
 
I've also had a PS1 and PS2...the PS1 I bought new, but it's the old style; the PS2 I bought used several years ago. I haven't had any problems with either.
 
[quote name='dschroll']Actually, GC is probably the most durable of them all. XPlay did a durability test on all 3 consoles. They slammed the consoles with a sledge hammer and dropped them from a high up distance and afterwards would see if the console would boot up. PS2 died after the sledge hammer part. XBOX died after dropping it. GC managed to boot every time.[/quote]

I saw that episode too. Have you seen that one video on the internet of kids dragging a GC behind a SUV? It survived that, but they broke it with a sledgehammer and set fire to it. Oh, yea, and then the kid bought a new gamecube :roll:

I've never had a Nintendo product stop working. The worst thing that happened to me is that my NES cartridges won't click and stay down in the console. I have to wedge a SNES cartridge in if I want to play it. That's not a big problem at all. My SNES' plastic yellowed on the bottom too (oh well). I've dropped my GBA SP a couple times with no adverse effects. Once was down my stairs. I thought that something would be definitely broken because it hit nearly every step on the way down before it got to the end and hit the hardwood floor. I really do take good care of my games/consoles, but if you play them a lot accidents happen...I don't consider DREs accidents though unless you did something stupid and dropped the PS2.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Pfft. The XBox is bulletproof.[/quote]

The XBox has a hard drive, and hard drives are not bullet proof.
 
[quote name='donssword'][quote name='Scorch']Pfft. The XBox is bulletproof.[/quote]

The XBox has a hard drive, and hard drives are not bullet proof.[/quote]

yeah, but built in NIC cards are. take THAT $40 accessory that I barely ever used!
 
of course they are not built to last, how the hell else do you think they sell 10X more of them than any other console? because nintendos and the xbox actually fucking work
 
I've owned nintendo and sony systems since the NES and PS1; over 15 years of using one and/or the other. I've never had a problem from any of them (NES, SNES, GB, GBC, GBA, N64,GCN, PS1, PS2) and all still work to this day despite being passed from one family member to another. However, the XBOX that I purchased in August crapped out by October and because of the Box's lack of a real memory card all of my game info was lost when I had to exchange it, frustrating to say the least. Hmmmm... I guess the point is, overall generalizations concerning the reliability of a system based almost solely on personal experiences carry very little weight. It would be interesting to see some kind of credible stats on the number of repairs per unit sold for each of the big three.
 
I totally agree that the PS2's are not built to last.
Maybe Sony believed in Quantity not Quality for the PS2.
Because I own the original Playstation since '97, never had a problem.
I've had my PS2 shipped to Bristol once for the infamous disk read error,
Then once I brought it to a pawn repair shop in town, the case this time???
Wouldn't boot up... the problem... the AV jacks went bad.
Let us hope that Sony takes a huge note on this with the release of the PSP in March and the PS3 in 2006.
For now GO XBOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I still play my PS2 also but not as much) :D
 
i go thru heavy play with mine..all i needed was a replacement controller (this was after 4.5 years)
mine is still good, although it gets the blue disc error..im gonna sell it to get the new one
 
[quote name='help1'][quote name='davidmt']Never had a problem with Playstation, PS1, or Playstation 2. All were bought at launch. I must be lucky.[/quote]

Or, you don't mistreat your console by:

1.putting drinks on it.
2. putting it on the carpet.
3. keeping it near dust.
4. put it on the edge of a table so that if you pull the controller it will fall
5.etc.[/quote]

Agreed. I've had mine since January 2001 (happy 4th b-day!) and I've kept it on a shelf, trying hard not to move it around unnecessarily, and I have had no problems whatsoever. The worst thing you can do to a PS2 is leave it on the dusty carpet. That's a prescription for death. Also, has anyone here noticed a pattern of PS2s left in standby leading to problems? I've always put mine in standby and then flipped the main power switch and it seems as though this may have helped.
 
[quote name='davidmt']Never had a problem with Playstation, PS1, or Playstation 2. All were bought at launch. I must be lucky.[/quote]

That's what my friend always said whenever I said something about a DRE. And he claimed the PS2 was the best built system. Then last semester he started getting DREs on his PS2 and admitted that the reason he traded away his PS1 was because he had to turn it upside down to play it. The dreaded fanboyism strikes again.

I have owned nearly every system and the only ones that have never given me a problem are the ones from Nintendo.
 
well..i've had my ps2 since like a year after it was first made...no problems whatsoever...no dres, no nothing...it's just how you take care of it...i also recently got an xbox...taking care of it like i had the ps2 :)
 
I'm one of the lucky ones. Picked up my PS2 on launch day, and have never had a problem with it. No DRE, nothing wearing out, nada. I do try to treat it gently, and it's never been dropped or anything, (although it has been packed up and brought on vacation with me a few times) but I know lots of other people have done the same and still had problems. I keep a towel over it when I'm not using it to try and keep dust off of it. Don't know how much that helps, but I figure it can't hurt.
 
[quote name='The Cheapest Ass Gamer'][quote name='help1'][quote name='davidmt']Never had a problem with Playstation, PS1, or Playstation 2. All were bought at launch. I must be lucky.[/quote]

Or, you don't mistreat your console by:

1.putting drinks on it.
2. putting it on the carpet.
3. keeping it near dust.
4. put it on the edge of a table so that if you pull the controller it will fall
5.etc.[/quote]

Agreed. I've had mine since January 2001 (happy 4th b-day!) and I've kept it on a shelf, trying hard not to move it around unnecessarily, and I have had no problems whatsoever. The worst thing you can do to a PS2 is leave it on the dusty carpet. That's a prescription for death. Also, has anyone here noticed a pattern of PS2s left in standby leading to problems? I've always put mine in standby and then flipped the main power switch and it seems as though this may have helped.[/quote]

It's only logical that you don't put a console on the floor or around dust. People who do that should be shot, especially when they complain that their console no longer works. But having to put it on a shrine and never touch it is ridiculous. Games are/should be made to be used. I also take extreme care of my consoles. But I have probably been less careful with my GCN than any other system ever. I mean I treat it well, but sometimes I just throw it and all the accessories in a backpack and take it to a friends or throw it in the car to take on a trip and thus it has been bumped, jostled and scratched up. I have also let other peole just borrow it (which I never have done before with my game systems) and who knows how crappy they treat it. One of my friends has even dropped it on tile a couple of times (he is no longer allowed to touch it :evil: ). But it still plays perfectly every time. And I have had it since the beginning.

But as someone already said, PS2 DRE's are not necessarily from misuse. They often just happen. It is the quality of the product. But most people don't believe it until it happens to them. See my previous post. He always said that no one he knew had even had a problem with the PS2. But that's because it hadn't happened to him, so he wasn't looking for stories. Once it happened to him, he started realizing how many people he knew that had had DRE's.
 
[quote name='SadieDee']My SNES' plastic yellowed on the bottom too (oh well).[/quote]

Heh. Funny where you find things. I've never owned a Sony anything -- well, except a discman and a big-ass cd changer -- but I've been wondering for a while now if that happened to anyone else's SNES. Still works, of course. Just kinda dingy-looking down south.

I still remember the kid who wrote into Nintendo Power about a chair leg piercing his NES during a move. He cleaned out the plastic shards, plugged it in, and, of course, it still worked.

(Edited to add:)

I've taken my GC back and forth to FLorida a number of times with no problems. I usually take it out of my bag during the security check, but on the way home this last time I didn't feel like bothering with it. I saw the guy at the x-ray monitor studying my bag for a couple minutes, but all he asked me was "You have a radio in there, sir?" I told him it was just a Gamecube, some woman put it on another contraption, and I went on my not-so-merry way. (Hey, leaving Florida in the winter sucks hard.)
 
[quote name='davidmt']Never had a problem with Playstation, PS1, or Playstation 2. All were bought at launch. I must be lucky.[/quote]

You've never had a problem with the original launch Playstation? It's never slowed down because it over heated? All Playstations were like that from my knowlege.
 
[quote name='ChaosMonkey'][quote name='SadieDee']My SNES' plastic yellowed on the bottom too (oh well).[/quote]

Still works, of course. Just kinda dingy-looking down south.

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Things you can get away saying about a console but not a sorority girl...
 
I have a clicking noise during load up of my older PS2, the tray also grinds and extends too far.

My PS disc spindle has pieces that just fell off, but it stil holds the discs just fine.

My PStwo is 2 months old and I have had no problems yet.

So far sony is 2/2 with consoles breaking in some way, shape or form.

My SNES still works like it did out of the box almost 15 years ago. My Gamecube is almost 3 and has not had one single problem. My N64 is in perfect shape as well.

I've had 3 gameboys, since 1989 and all of them have worked perfectly, even after physical abuse.

Nintendo kicks Sony's ass in durability.
 
[quote name='The Cheapest Ass Gamer']Also, has anyone here noticed a pattern of PS2s left in standby leading to problems? I've always put mine in standby and then flipped the main power switch and it seems as though this may have helped.[/quote]

Standby is for when you're going to be constantly playing it, as it's even in the manual, I believe. When you're not, it should be turned off. It has nothing to do with DRE's.
 
I left my launch PS2 on standby for the entire first year I owned it. I didnt see a DRE for 3 and a half years.

When it comes down to it, no electronic device is built to last for ever, it's just not feasable, but some just last longer than others.
 
No problems with my PS2 that I bought in '02. It's been on the carpet from time to time, turned completely off, unplugged, and left on standby. The only problem I've had with the original Playstation is my roommate dropped it on concrete. Busted. But my GCN I bought in '03 gives me DREs like crazy when I play Eternal Darkness, and from time to time on others.
 
[quote name='tdphillips']No problems with my PS2 that I bought in '02. It's been on the carpet from time to time, turned completely off, unplugged, and left on standby. The only problem I've had with the original Playstation is my roommate dropped it on concrete. Busted. But my GCN I bought in '03 gives me DREs like crazy when I play Eternal Darkness, and from time to time on others.[/quote]

Does Eternal Darkness work on other systems? That's the first time I've ever heard of a DRE on the Cube.
 
Yeah I have had my PSP for a few years. Whenever I decide to put it in my pocket I wrap it in a towel and seal it in a plastic baggy to avoid lint, dirt, scratches.

Then when I am on the 2 hour ride home I get it out delicately and start up the loading screen. In no time I am playing the system.

When I get home I dock it in a cradle for its necessary charge and cover it with a lead case to avoid any dust particles to contaminate it...

Until this morning when it gave me a DRE and shot the disc out hitting my dog in the ass.

Needless to say I had to do a Dirty Rear Entry to get the disc back...

Damn Sony and their DRE errors...
 
[quote name='Snake2715']Yeah I have had my PSP for a fe years. Whenever i decide to put it in my pocket i wrap it in a towel and seal it in a plastic baggy to avoid lint, dirt, scratches.

Then when i am on the 2 hour ride home I get it out delicately and start up the loading screen. in no time I am playing the system.

When I get home I dock it in a cradle for its necessary charge and cover it with a lead case to avoid any dust particles to contaminate it...

Until this morning when it gave me a DRE and shot the disc out hitting my dog in the ass.

Needless to say I had to do a Dirty Rear Entry to get the disc back...

Damn Sony and their DRE errors...[/quote]

A few years? Wow. You really have connections, eh? :wink:
 
Psst read the rest of it it's even funnier!


who knows what problems it could develop in a few years, if I were that scared to buy technology I'd be hiding in a cave or something where the techno-demons couldnt get me.
 
I blame this thread for jinxing me! ;) I read this, and was thinking about responding how I've had my PS2 3 years now with no problems. So what happens today? I turn it on and DRE on every game I try to play. The only thing that still works is HD Loader. Unfortunately I still have a pile of games I have yet to install to the HD. I called Sony and they are doing the free fix for me. Too bad by the time I get it back my vacation will be long over.
 
[quote name='MorPhiend'][quote name='tdphillips']No problems with my PS2 that I bought in '02. It's been on the carpet from time to time, turned completely off, unplugged, and left on standby. The only problem I've had with the original Playstation is my roommate dropped it on concrete. Busted. But my GCN I bought in '03 gives me DREs like crazy when I play Eternal Darkness, and from time to time on others.[/quote]

Does Eternal Darkness work on other systems? That's the first time I've ever heard of a DRE on the Cube.[/quote]

Here's a thread about Cube DREs.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42445

My ED is like 2 weeks old. It's not been on any other system. It only happens during cut scenes. I turn it off, turn it back on, and it usually goes through the scene. And it does happen on other games, just not as frequent.
 
[quote name='tdphillips'][quote name='MorPhiend'][quote name='tdphillips']No problems with my PS2 that I bought in '02. It's been on the carpet from time to time, turned completely off, unplugged, and left on standby. The only problem I've had with the original Playstation is my roommate dropped it on concrete. Busted. But my GCN I bought in '03 gives me DREs like crazy when I play Eternal Darkness, and from time to time on others.[/quote]

Does Eternal Darkness work on other systems? That's the first time I've ever heard of a DRE on the Cube.[/quote]

Here's a thread about Cube DREs.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42445

My ED is like 2 weeks old. It's not been on any other system. It only happens during cut scenes. I turn it off, turn it back on, and it usually goes through the scene. And it does happen on other games, just not as frequent.[/quote]

I recall hearing about a random glitch in the Eternal Darkness cutscenes. So, I'd suggest trying it on a friends' Cube except you say it happens with other games... You should probably still try it. You may have gotten a defective disc, maybe?

Edit: Or, after reading that thread, it sounds like GCN DREs are due to dirty machines/discs. In that case, any console (including cartridge) can get "DRE"s, meaning people need to clean them. I guess I always associate DRE with the PS2 and XBOX drives just breaking on you.
 
[quote name='WarrenGekko']I have had mine since the launch in 1999 and NEVER had problems. Made to last[/quote]

Well, it came out in 2000 so...
 
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