I don't think we can assume anything, Sony knows loads times would be an issue, I doubt they would make a drive slower than 4x, did anyboday ever buy a 1x dvd rom for the pc? I think alot of the developers makeing noise, might be them wanting Sony to release enough info to make everybody make a decision on 360 or ps3 so they know where to spend there budget. Based on past experience of owning all major consoles except until a few weeks ago the PS2, I will buy a ps3 asap, I thought the Xbox was overall the biggest disappointement, it didn't know what it wanted to be ie (kid game/Adult game/online game) and online gameing is boring because to many people get online and become full of themselves because they have no real power in their real lives. even if teh first 2 years is kinda dull, Sony comes out winning when needed, I just hope the console market can slow its new found affection down for first person shooters, We have a good pc for FPS, we have consoles for everything else that pc gameing isn't as good at, ie Tomb Raider always controled better on Console, looked better on pc, but contolled better on console and control is key to fun.