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I'll first say I never played the original culdcept and that I barely touch RPGs unlike my PS1 days... The story looks a bit "meh" to me, but the card based gameplay looks great along with the addition of online play. I've always loved TCGs (though I never played yugioh or magc... can't stand them both) so this makes a perfect choice for me... here's hoping it comes stateside eventually.



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update:

http://xbox360.qj.net/New-Culdcept-SAGA-screenshots/pg/49/aid/86185

comming stateside this summer!!!!!!!!
 
if you have a ps2, you should buy it from ebgames for $11.99 brand new. from what i can see in your previews, it's exactly the same as the one for the ps2 except for better graphics and a different story. the gameplay looks essentially the same and it'll give you a chance to see if the game is your cup of tea. i had a blast with the ps2 version and look forward to picking up the xbox360 version for cheap. :) thanks for the previews!
 
[quote name='doraemonkerpal']if you have a ps2, you should buy it from ebgames for $11.99 brand new. from what i can see in your previews, it's exactly the same as the one for the ps2 except for better graphics and a different story. the gameplay looks essentially the same and it'll give you a chance to see if the game is your cup of tea. i had a blast with the ps2 version and look forward to picking up the xbox360 version for cheap. :) thanks for the previews![/QUOTE]


The key difference is online play. You'll be able to finally play your deck with other players online... that's a huge jump.
 
[quote name='doraemonkerpal']if you have a ps2, you should buy it from ebgames for $11.99 brand new. from what i can see in your previews, it's exactly the same as the one for the ps2 except for better graphics and a different story. the gameplay looks essentially the same and it'll give you a chance to see if the game is your cup of tea. i had a blast with the ps2 version and look forward to picking up the xbox360 version for cheap. :) thanks for the previews![/quote]

If I remember correctly Culdcept for PS2 has one of the lowest print runs of all games for the system. I personally have yet to come across a new copy of it at gs/eb, have seen it used a couple of times for 6.99. Passed it up for quite a while now, may have to check it out.
 
The PS2 version was fun, like most previews its a mix between monopoly and card battle. Once you play it you will see.
if anyone cares to check it out. I'm buying this one the day it comes out. Pretty sure the review said that it has more cards than any of the other versions. Gamestop has it scheduled for 5/1/07 whether or not thats just one of their guesses who knows.
 
holy crap. you guys are extremely lucky. This game alone might almost convince me to pick up a 360.

The PS2 version was amazing. If you get a few friends to play with you, you could easily spend hours on the game. I don't normally play games for too long, but I have clocked in over 300 hours into this game, as have my friends who play with me.

EDIT: after watching the gameplay video, there are a lot of cards that were in the PS2 version. Wonder how different this game will actually be. Online play is cool, but since I have a good group of friends to play with, I don't think I'd get much use out of it. I'm glad battles are still simple (show two cards 'fighting') as it keeps gameplay fast. Will have to see what exactly is different about this game though.
 
There's a playable demo up now!!! And supposedly the demo is playable online as well. I'm d/l'ing now. This is easily my most wanted game right now. I played the PS2 Culdcept so much it's ridiculous.
 
Just finished my first game. All I have to say is....more please! :) It's Culdcept, just much prettier. LOVE the card artwork! They've also introduced some new concepts it seems, such as Doublecast (spell cards marked with this will allow you to cast another spell after using them).

Also, it looks like IGN was wrong - the demo, from what I can tell, doesn't allow online play. It does let you play offline versus tho, on a more complex map, so that's something.
 
Cool, I guess I'll have to fire up the ol' box and do that update and grab this. I've been taking a bit of a break from the 360 recently ;).
 
Very suprised at how much I enjoyed it. I passed on the PS2 several times over, I tried the demo on a whim and really enjoyed it. Will be picking this one up...
 
[quote name='argyle']Just finished my first game. All I have to say is....more please! :) It's Culdcept, just much prettier. LOVE the card artwork! They've also introduced some new concepts it seems, such as Doublecast (spell cards marked with this will allow you to cast another spell after using them).

Also, it looks like IGN was wrong - the demo, from what I can tell, doesn't allow online play. It does let you play offline versus tho, on a more complex map, so that's something.[/QUOTE]

Were there any Japanese playing online as well?
 
I usually like games like this, but I'm just not feeling Culdcept. I think the game sucks from what I played via the demo.

Ah well.
 
Talk about leaving me wanting more. I've been dying for this game since it was announced so long ago. Hopefully this demo means the full release wont be too far off. Now if only we'd hear something about Castle Crashers...
 
I had no idea the Culdcept series even existed until I read a random post on CAG that a demo was out. I generally like puzzle/card games over other genres so I gave the demo a spin. OMG, this is right up my alley, played the demo over and over until 3am. Some card games have a learning curve that I just don't want to bother with, but within 15-30 minutes I felt fully up to speed on this one.

I looked up the release date, hoping to buy it soon, and saw that it won't be released until Feb? Argh. :( I searched Gamestop for a copy of the first game for PS2 and found one 40 miles away from my house, so I went there this morning and picked it up. Been playing it for hours now! Great stuff. I'll echo what others have said, it seems to be pretty much the same game, a few gameplay tweaks, some cards have new art (some have the same art), but everything looks really sharp and the artwork is so beautiful.
 
Looks weird. I'm not really familiar with many Card RPGs (Baten Kaitos is it, I think), but I could give it a try...?
 
[quote name='Maynard']well theres a new definition for "Games to fall asleep to"[/quote]

It's definately not an action game but the strategy does ramp up quite a bit once you collect a good size deck.

When I get a good buzz going the last thing I want is a "save the world" type game - this fills in the niche nicely.
 
[quote name='Maynard']well theres a new definition for "Games to fall asleep to"[/quote]

Yeah because the 360 doesn't have enough FPS's/action games already :\

I don't know what it is but it just doesn't feel right. I like some of the redesigns(compared to the PS2 NA version) but I don't know what it is but something just doesn't feel right for some reason. I'll hold judgement until release but was kind of let down personally although i'll probably still end up picking it up since I thoroughly enjoyed the PS2 incarnation.
 
Okay when the demo ends, and you see all those 'NEW!' cards that you get. Do you actually get them?

I played the demo 4 times and only beat that bitch once, on my third try. She seems to pull great cards all the time and I get a Giant Rat every turn.

If Im not winning those cards it shows after each game then Im erasing this demo. I want to play the full game, not Giant Rat Prison Rape every round.
 
[quote name='Maynard']well theres a new definition for "Games to fall asleep to"[/QUOTE]

Well it's not for you. There are lots of 'exciting' games for you out there. There are not many turn based, slow tempo games released anymore. We have to embrace what we can get. I love the FF Tactics/ Front Mission type of games, admittedly I know they are of a dying breed. Anyways....

[quote name='Puffa469']Okay when the demo ends, and you see all those 'NEW!' cards that you get. Do you actually get them?

I played the demo 4 times and only beat that bitch once, on my third try. She seems to pull great cards all the time and I get a Giant Rat every turn.

If Im not winning those cards it shows after each game then Im erasing this demo. I want to play the full game, not Giant Rat Prison Rape every round.[/QUOTE]

In the demo you only have roughly half a deck to play with and the cards are very limited. Those new cards you see after the game are cards that you would add to your deck if it were the full game, but thats where the demo cuts you off. There is no way to use those in the demo, but at least you can see some of the different cards for the retail version.
 
[quote name='Inferno-X']In the demo you only have roughly half a deck to play with and the cards are very limited. Those new cards you see after the game are cards that you would add to your deck if it were the full game, but thats where the demo cuts you off. There is no way to use those in the demo, but at least you can see some of the different cards for the retail version.[/quote]

Ok thanks, Im done with the demo then. I love Culdecept, and I'll probably buy this when it comes out, but Im sick of giant rats and goblins.

Question: Is this going to be a retail release or a XBLA game?
 
[quote name='Inferno-X']I had no idea the Culdcept series even existed until I read a random post on CAG that a demo was out. I generally like puzzle/card games over other genres so I gave the demo a spin. OMG, this is right up my alley, played the demo over and over until 3am. Some card games have a learning curve that I just don't want to bother with, but within 15-30 minutes I felt fully up to speed on this one.

I looked up the release date, hoping to buy it soon, and saw that it won't be released until Feb? Argh. :( I searched Gamestop for a copy of the first game for PS2 and found one 40 miles away from my house, so I went there this morning and picked it up. Been playing it for hours now! Great stuff. I'll echo what others have said, it seems to be pretty much the same game, a few gameplay tweaks, some cards have new art (some have the same art), but everything looks really sharp and the artwork is so beautiful.[/quote]

I had heard of Culdcept, but never played it until the demo. Now I'm just as hooked as you are except I dont' have a PS2 so I'm stuck with the demo for a few more months. I must have played the demo 10-15 times in the last couple days. I've gotten good enough where I can pretty much destroy the AI every time, even when I get crap cards/rolls, but I still keep playing. Wish I didn't have to wait so long for the full version to come out.
 
[quote name='Puffa469']Question: Is this going to be a retail release or a XBLA game?[/QUOTE]

That was my first thought as well, heh. It's gonna be a retail release with a full 1000 gamer points up for grabs, $40 (which is around the going rate of the PS2 version used) and comes out Feb 5th.
 
[quote name='Inferno-X']That was my first thought as well, heh. It's gonna be a retail release with a full 1000 gamer points up for grabs, $40 (which is around the going rate of the PS2 version used) and comes out Feb 5th.[/quote]

I just managed to find a disc only copy of the PS2 game for $6.99. Thankfully there's a manual/help index in the game. Hopefully by the time I get a 360, Culdcept Saga will be out. Right off the bat though, I had pangs for playin Phantom Dust as I went through all the cards in this...
 
Wow, Culdcept is mad addicting! Best $7 I've spent in weeks (also pretty much confirms a 1st day buy for Saga). Now to get a 360...
 
Here's a developer interview from Joystiq! I can't wait for this game!!

By all accounts Omiya Soft's Culdcept franchise has no business being as fun as it is. An admittedly bizarre meshing of board and collectible card game antics, the resulting gameplay potpourri comes across as one big happy accident, but one that has endured since well before the Saturn was pushing up daises. With iterations released in Japan for Sega's final console pair as well as the original PlayStation, North American gamers got their first taste of this unique hybrid in 2003 when NEC released Culdcept for the PlayStation 2 to modest critical acclaim.

Since that time, however, the franchise has faded into obscurity, but will soon be given another chance, this time under the banner of Namco Bandai for the Xbox 360. Culdcept Saga, which has been available for some time in Japan, marks a decidedly different sort of experience for Xbox 360 owners, one usually associated with XBLA downloads rather than a full-on retail release, though even trepidatious players may find the $39.99 price difficult to pass up, especially those looking for something different to play during their FPS downtime.

In advance of the game's early February release we managed to corner Namco Bandai's Nobu Taguchi, who is spearheading Culdcept Saga's localization here in North America. Taguchi was more than willing to set us straight on a number of topics, from the title's multiplayer gameplay to changes made regarding how DLC will be handled...and more.

Check out the full interview after the jump.


Gallery: Culdcept Saga



So Culdcept Saga looks essentially to be a remake of the PlayStation 2 original, right down to using the same card art as was used in the 2003 release. Do I have this right?

The PS2 version was a very polished game with excellent mechanics within the gameplay system. Since this foundation for the series was so solid, the core game system and general rules have been carried over to Culdcept Saga, albeit, with more balance. Some of the artwork has been carried over, but a lot of it has been changed along with the introduction of new cards which were not in the series before.

In addition to artwork changes, all the cards have been reevaluated for balance, hence, the cards all have a greater sense of strategy and there is no single "winner" style of constructing your Book. The biggest difference is the online function. Being able to challenge others on Xbox Live is a special feature which will take this game beyond the previous version, which lacked online capabilities.

So to go back to the original question - the game shares some similarities with its PS2 predecessor, but we have upgraded every possible aspect of the game and added more functionality to satisfy those who are both familiar with and new to this series.

So for series vets, is online play the chief thing that players can expect that's new?

Online play is a huge feature which will take Saga apart from all the previous entries in the series. Considering that the game is similar to a collectible card game, the core value of being able to challenge a live opponent should be an outstanding element for not only the veterans, but also to newcomers as well.

Beyond online play, there's a laundry list of new features for fans to look forward to: There are new rule criteria which can be placed when challenging people on Live and on a single console. New maps and land attributes have been introduced to give more dynamic depth to the playing field. New cards have been introduced, and all of the cards have been revisited in some sense, and some have been adjusted to balance out the playing field and to add more strategy. New card attributes have been introduced to increase the choices people can make when building their Book. Replay save functions are available for single play mode so that you can evaluate your play.

There are many more minor, yet intriguing areas which have been added (more Book save areas, card voice play, card model viewer, in-game Help guide etc), so it's safe to say that, yes, the game will bring a whole lot of new items for the veterans, and prove to be a very robust game to all the newcomers.

Culdcept Saga's release somewhat echoes that of Sony's own card game title for the PS3 released late last year in Eye of Judgment? How do you think it and your game compare?

I have had opportunity to play the game a number of times and feel that EoJ is a very well made game incorporating similar CCG concepts with an innovative touch using the camera. However, it's fundamentally different from our game in that Culdcept Saga uses the element of chance with its dice rolls to give an even winning opportunity to all types of players. This is important in giving players of all skill levels a shot at success, especially when they venture online.

We don't want any of our players to ever feel overwhelmed or that they don't have a chance to win, but also want more experienced players to feel good about the advanced cards they have amassed and the innovative strategies they have formulated. The Culdcept series has been around for a long time now, so we feel we've come to the perfect balance of these elements with Saga.

Aside from gameplay details between the two games, we're happy to see others enter the genre and have success. It's clear that gamers are always looking for new experiences, especially with a social slant, so hopefully people will take to what we have created so we can continue to grow and innovate within the genre and see more games of this type in the future.

I keep coming back to Culdcept's multiplayer, but it is obviously going to be a big draw for this game. Will the game support multiple local players in an online match? For example, if a pair of players is in the same room, will they be able to both join and play with two other players located elsewhere?

In order to make the gameplay fair for all people, the game does not feature local player + online match support. The issue which we anticipated is that some players may want to increase their odds of winning online by playing with more than one in-game characters. This would make the game unfair to those who are playing on their own, as it would be possible for the offending player to collude and tip the scales of balance in their favor. Of course, not all players will break the rules like this to win, but we want to deter this kind of activity as much as possible.

Will Culdcept Saga offer players the option of wagering cards in their decks during online matches?

Yes. The game features a card bet feature which can be established at the initial match creation screen. You can set a number of cards to wager in the match, and whoever wins will acquire that set amount of cards from the person who placed last. We decided not to make it so that you can specify which cards to wager since, if card selection was enabled, it would be safe to assume that there will be quite an argument between players on which cards are essentially equal to which card, thus making it harder to start matches.

By making it random, it alleviates such negotiations and also adds an unseen "excitement" element in seeing which cards would be acquired or lost. Yet, even if you win or lose, since you can get cards at the end of a match, it should balance out well in that it won't leave many hard feelings after an online match - or at least, hopefully so!

And will players be able to trade cards or Books online?

Although trading cards cannot be done online, players can instead "share" the Books they constructed by storing their data on a Memory Unit and bringing it over to another Xbox 360 unit. Players can also share other data such as pre-set rules, and AI characters.

Speaking of cards, I know that there are going to be about 500 or so cards in the game already, but tabletop card games have shown us that after time players are going to eventually work through and build strategies around this initial set, and begin to want more. Are there plans to expand upon Culdcept Saga's card portfolio with DLC?

Currently, we have no immediate plans of creating additional cards for download. The issue which was presented was that having DLC would equate to an uneven playing field for those who decide not to opt for such perks. Hence, instead of reducing the amount of cards and keeping the rest for downloadable content down the road, the entire list of cards has been included so that no one would have to go through additional costs to "juice" their Books. Keeping everything in check and fair to let strategy take more precedent over those who just buy expansions was a key factor in establishing our stance on this matter.

What about other DLC plans? Is there anything you can talk about? New boards perhaps?

We do not have any current plans for DLC, but it's something we'll be evaluating once the game is released. There's nothing on the table for the time being, but we'll be watching user reaction to the game very carefully.

We've read however that Culdcept Saga's character customization will be hinged on purchasing items over the Xbox Live Marketplace. It seems like this is the sort of thing that could have easily been included in the game from day one rather than asking players to spend more money after the fact.

Actually, we took a change in direction and have decided against including customizable download avatar parts. Since we are not having any DLC for cards, it just didn't make sense to include downloadable content for these other areas of the game.

On the other hand, we do have 70 parts to customize your character with, along with 6 different character sets and different hair styles and skin tones. This should prove to be a robust selection to build your own character with. Also, customization is not only reflected on board, but also in the single player campaign cut scenes as well. Some of these parts are pretty challenging to acquire, so we'd prefer to let our players flaunt their hard-earned accomplishments than just download them.

Finally, will Culdcept Saga support online tournaments? It might be a good way to garner added interest in this game given its unique draw.

That is an interesting thought, and something that I am sure we will be looking into in the future, but for the time being, we have no immediate plans to host special tournaments. On the other hand, by setting specific criteria for certain matches, each player can plan to host their own special tournament, so in essence the flexibility of conducting a tournament is in the game.
 
Nice to see that there is no built-in plans for DLC (like things actually on the disc that only get unlocked when you purchase DLC, or deliberately holding back several cards to sell later). That's kind of refreshing.
 
Anyone planning to pick this up? I'm strongly considering it, but the multi-hour matches that I've heard mentioned are a big turn off. Still, you can't go wrong with a $40 price tag.
 
This is definitely the kind of game I love to play, but if I buy it now it will sit in the shrink wrap for months while I finish my other games. I'm tempted to wait for a price drop and pick it up later. But will it be around long enough to even see a price drop? Any word on how many copies they're printing?
 
[quote name='Maynard']well theres a new definition for "Games to fall asleep to"[/quote]
Strategy game arent for everyone.:roll:
 
Any thoughts on this game yet? I played the demo and found it tough to get into, but I may give it another try today. I liked the quirky strategy games for XBLA: carcassone, catan. However I hate the FF tactics games and other similar games. I like monopoly. Any thoughts on if I would enjoy this?
 
[quote name='NWgamer666']Any thoughts on this game yet? I played the demo and found it tough to get into, but I may give it another try today. I liked the quirky strategy games for XBLA: carcassone, catan. However I hate the FF tactics games and other similar games. I like monopoly. Any thoughts on if I would enjoy this?[/quote]

it's definitely not as close to FF tactics as it is to magic the gathering, board games, and collectible card games

i say give it a shot...i'm gonna get this sometime in the next week
 
Cant believe I missed that this was out already. I played the PS2 version for hours and hours and never got tired of it. For $40, I am definately going to have to pick this up in the next couple of days.
 
I'm tempted to pick to up over Devil May Cry. I enjoy the original version a lot , plus I prefer playing non-mainstream/quirky games. Only thing that is stop me is the inner CAG within me. My gut feeling is telling me this will be bargain bin in few months.
 
I'm surprised this thread hasn't gotten much attention. I thought CAG loved Culdcept. Its also a $40 game. Maybe DMC4 is over shadowing it?
 
I have'nt seen it available yet. Amazon and BB both show later available dates (one for 2/12 and the other 2/8). Gonna wait till at least this Sunday and see if anyone has a $10 off new game deal.

Oh yea EB says it's shipping. but we know how EB likes to play it.
 
I enjoyed the demo. Enjoyed, not loved. I will pick this up and it's great to see that it's $40.. that means it can only get cheaper :D
 
Should be in today according to a Gamestop I went into yesterday. I'll pick it up this week with that 10% off coupon...I figure I'll buy now to show support for this type of thang. Did the same with Phantom Dust when it came out (and we know how that turned out ;))...ah well.
 
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