Dark Souls (Project Dark) - October 4, 2011

Looked it up on the wiki, only one who can use a flask is the host (phantoms cannot) but whenever the host chugs a flask it heals any friendly phantoms too.

Ran into an annoying glitch while summoning a phantom (or perhaps it is a quirk to keep the mechanics working probably). I Picked him up at the top of the catacombs, then I found the 2nd bonfire beyond the illusionary wall, but it wouldn't let me light it so when I died to the electro demon I had to start from back at the first bonfire.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']Looked it up on the wiki, only one who can use a flask is the host (phantoms cannot) but whenever the host chugs a flask it heals any friendly phantoms too.

Ran into an annoying glitch while summoning a phantom (or perhaps it is a quirk to keep the mechanics working probably). I Picked him up at the top of the catacombs, then I found the 2nd bonfire beyond the illusionary wall, but it wouldn't let me light it so when I died to the electro demon I had to start from back at the first bonfire.[/QUOTE]

It's not a glitch. You can't light bonfires when you have phantoms summoned.
 
Wow, the Iron Golem at the end of Sen's Fortress was a great place to get summoned tonight. I got summoned 4 times and on 2 of them I got sunlight medals, even. That is such an easy boss to kill, especially when the host summons two people. I actually got summoned 5 times but in the first one the host got killed almost immediately. The other times I noticed the golem either getting knocked down or stunned or just confused a few times because we were able to pelt it and it didn't even fight back. One time it was like 10-15 seconds total :lol:.

After that I backtracked to where Solaire is in the beginning of the game. That was a pain because while the cage provides a shortcut, you still have to fight a snake knight and deal with the snake mage while crossing the first set of axes. I tried to ignore the mage but he almost knocked me off the path while I was trying to get through so I had to go back and up the stairs and take him out with arrows first, which takes a while (didn't want to risk running through those blades to get him up close). I have 5 banked humanity from the summonings and I didn't want to lose those - I'm saving them for the bonfires in the Painted world and Anor Londo if I can keep them that long...

I was disappointed but not surprised to see Solaire gone (I suppose he is in Anor Londo now since I went to the outside of that before backtracking). But going up to the altar (which does not fix itself - always looks broken thus answering a question I have asked here at least twice with no answer ;)) allowed me to join the covenant. So now I want to get back up there and get summoned a few more times and just get that ranking up out of the way now.

But I have to get back up the cage first and that makes me nervous because it is quite far from the bridge with the axes - it looks like you might fall if you try to step on but I assume they are meant to be ridden up so I'll just have to try it. And also there are two of them that are open and I'm afraid the wrong one will result in me getting killed...
 
Killed the final boss and started my NG+ not sure how far I'll get before I get distracted by another game. I feel like I'm wearing tin-foil in regards to how hard you get hit by those normal enemies.

Was invaded twice in Undead Burg so far since NG+. The first invasion, was a respectable one. He bowed and I chugged a flask right after just taking out a group of undead. Seemed like a good match-up, he did try to do some sort of force-based miracle which did hurt me a bit but not before I smacked him around with my +10 fire-weapon. I also used Toxic Mist in conjunction with my strikes.

The second invader was a fully decked out dragon-person, which is something I've yet to see so that was cool. He managed to get that back-stab while I'm still in front of him. Thankfully he had a small dagger of some sort but it still took 1/2 my life. I was able to defeat him by using iron skin, chugging a flask and wailing away on him. He activated iron skin too, but dagger < two-hand weapon when it comes to just trading damage.

All in all, I'm going to have to figure out the best weapon that also scaled with my stats if I'm going to continue. I do have a +5 black knight sword but I still feel it is underpowered at the moment. If any of you guys have a suggestion I would appreciate it.
 
[quote name='io']
Keep 'em, man. You have no idea how he got them but you won them legit (even if the game glitched out somewhat - wasn't intentional though). I'd be thrilled if that happened to me![/QUOTE]

Yeah I guess I will :). I don't think the game glitched - humans can be invaded by multiple different invaders in the Forest, and I just lucked out that I got in there right before the other invader killed him(even if the other guy was using cheap tactics). I'm thinking about pumping Int so I can use some of the more powerful sorcery spells.
 
[quote name='io']After that I backtracked to where Solaire is in the beginning of the game. That was a pain because while the cage provides a shortcut, you still have to fight a snake knight and deal with the snake mage while crossing the first set of axes. I tried to ignore the mage but he almost knocked me off the path while I was trying to get through so I had to go back and up the stairs and take him out with arrows first, which takes a while (didn't want to risk running through those blades to get him up close).[/QUOTE]

I agree that shortcut is frustrating. I'm still trying to figure out a good way to make that part easier but it doesn't seem possible.


[quote name='Loonknight'] All in all, I'm going to have to figure out the best weapon that also scaled with my stats if I'm going to continue. I do have a +5 black knight sword but I still feel it is underpowered at the moment. If any of you guys have a suggestion I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]

True Greatsword of Artorias, using Sif's Soul and a +10 Broken hilt or +10 broken straight sword.

If I remember correctly it's something liek B/B/C/C. Does a ton of damage and magic damage.

But it's a two hander, good for bosses. If you're looking for a 1 hander, either enchanted or magic Uchigatana scale well.
 
I want to be sure of one thing, the Titanite Slabs that you find, are those only for breaking up into more chunks and pieces? Or is there a weapon/armor that requires the slab itself to upgrade?
 
Yeah usually the final upgrade, to get to +10 (or +5 ilghtning) requires 1 slab. DO NOT break it into more pieces, slabs are RARE.

You can find 2 reg titanite slabs pre playthrough, and at least 1 red 1 blue 1 white slab per playthrough.

Monsters can drop slabs too. I found one red slab randomly from the Chaos Eater in Lost Izalith, a blue slab can be found from the Crystal butterflies in crystal cave, IDK about white slabs.
 
[quote name='IRHari']Yeah usually the final upgrade, to get to +10 (or +5 ilghtning) requires 1 slab. DO NOT break it into more pieces, slabs are RARE.

You can find 2 reg titanite slabs pre playthrough, and at least 1 red 1 blue 1 white slab per playthrough.

Monsters can drop slabs too. I found one red slab randomly from the Chaos Eater in Lost Izalith, a blue slab can be found from the Crystal butterflies in crystal cave, IDK about white slabs.[/QUOTE]
So the different color of slabs apply to what final upgrade you get right?
 
[quote name='Backlash']Yeah I guess I will :). I don't think the game glitched - humans can be invaded by multiple different invaders in the Forest, and I just lucked out that I got in there right before the other invader killed him(even if the other guy was using cheap tactics). I'm thinking about pumping Int so I can use some of the more powerful sorcery spells.[/QUOTE]

RE: Getting the Fog Ring. I got it after 2 nights of invading and getting matched with these all decked-out guys (probably glitchers). I ended up getting it by trial and error; I would get summoned into a game, then I'd try to hide until another glitcher got summoned. Sometimes you get lucky when the other invader kills off the host :lol: So I finally got 3 guys killed and got my Fog Ring.

So now I've passed the Depths, passed Blighttown, killed the gaping dragon (pretty easy with Great Heavy Souls Arrows) killed Quelaag (pretty easy, killed her with Great Heavy Soul Arrows). Found that egg bearer, and no, he does not sell pyromancy flame, so I'm screwed for pyromancy. Killed Ceaseless Discharge; he was pretty easy too, just hid in that little pathway and popped out to make him strike, then I moved over a bit to avoid damage, then I moved in and hit his tentacle 2 to 3 times. I also got invaded by Maneater Mildred, she went down in like 5 hits with the Drake Sword.

Now I'm kind of lost. There are those huge dragon ogre dudes on one way, then there are mini-Capra Demons the other way. I would like to get back to firelink soon...
 
[quote name='io'] Wow, the Iron Golem at the end of Sen's Fortress was a great place to get summoned tonight. I got summoned 4 times and on 2 of them I got sunlight medals, even. That is such an easy boss to kill, especially when the host summons two people. I actually got summoned 5 times but in the first one the host got killed almost immediately. The other times I noticed the golem either getting knocked down or stunned or just confused a few times because we were able to pelt it and it didn't even fight back. One time it was like 10-15 seconds total :lol:.

After that I backtracked to where Solaire is in the beginning of the game. That was a pain because while the cage provides a shortcut, you still have to fight a snake knight and deal with the snake mage while crossing the first set of axes. I tried to ignore the mage but he almost knocked me off the path while I was trying to get through so I had to go back and up the stairs and take him out with arrows first, which takes a while (didn't want to risk running through those blades to get him up close). I have 5 banked humanity from the summonings and I didn't want to lose those - I'm saving them for the bonfires in the Painted world and Anor Londo if I can keep them that long...

I was disappointed but not surprised to see Solaire gone (I suppose he is in Anor Londo now since I went to the outside of that before backtracking). But going up to the altar (which does not fix itself - always looks broken thus answering a question I have asked here at least twice with no answer ;)) allowed me to join the covenant. So now I want to get back up there and get summoned a few more times and just get that ranking up out of the way now.

But I have to get back up the cage first and that makes me nervous because it is quite far from the bridge with the axes - it looks like you might fall if you try to step on but I assume they are meant to be ridden up so I'll just have to try it. And also there are two of them that are open and I'm afraid the wrong one will result in me getting killed...[/QUOTE]
He is an Anor Londo, he is easy to find, he is sitting next to the 2nd bonfire that you find so I killed him and took his armor, he was quite surprised.

The distance between the walkway and the cage you ride up to Sen's Fortress roof is pretty far so I was worried about falling too, but you don't, there is an invisible plank or something that you walk on. There is no difference between the two cages, there are two just like there are two lifts to the Undead parish, one stays up while the other stays down. Run past the first set of blades, pause under the bridge so the mage can't hit you and let the knight on the walkway come to you. Then either kill him outright or hold your shield in guard until he hits himself off the walkway. Move into the cage and the door will close before the mage can get a shot off.

What level are you? At first I was using the golem for summonings but I can go for long stretches when no one summons me so I am afraid I am too high or too low. The reason he gets stunned is he is like the Tower Knight from Demon's Souls, enough hits to the heel cause him to get stunned and then fall to his knees.

[quote name='jh6269']
Now I'm kind of lost. There are those huge dragon ogre dudes on one way, then there are mini-Capra Demons the other way. I would like to get back to firelink soon...[/QUOTE]
Only way back to firelink I think is to backtrack to lower blightown and ride the waterwheel up to Valley of the drakes and then new londo ruin, at least until you get the Lordvessel and you can warp.
 
[quote name='Assasin'] So the different color of slabs apply to what final upgrade you get right?[/QUOTE]

It's a little more complicated then that, for example you need blue chunks and green shards to get the weapon up to say, Magic +9, but the final upgrade from either +4 to +5 in the case of chaos, or +9 to +10, is done via one slab.

This is a pretty good upgrade chart:

dark_souls_weapon_upgrade.png
 
[quote name='jh2629']Found that egg bearer, and no, he does not sell pyromancy flame, so I'm screwed for pyromancy.[/QUOTE]

Did you already get infected and is he selling stuff to you? If so, I think your intelligence needs to be something like 11 or 12. After you join the Chaos Servant Covenannt, talk to him and he'll start selling you pyromancy. Since you don't have a pyromancy glove on you, after you talk to him he should give you one for free.

Just FYI, they're looking to nerf pyromancy big time in the next patch.
 
I officially hate New Londo now. Made it past the spot with the ghost up top and to the spot where the stairs are broken and it seems like you must enter the building. I'm meat at that point, as numerous ghosts fillet me. Well, at least it was that way the three times I was in there last night. Any suggestions, besides don't die? :)
 
[quote name='jmbreci']I officially hate New Londo now. Made it past the spot with the ghost up top and to the spot where the stairs are broken and it seems like you must enter the building. I'm meat at that point, as numerous ghosts fillet me. Well, at least it was that way the three times I was in there last night. Any suggestions, besides don't die? :)[/QUOTE]

You using a Transient Curse?
 
Throw on the fog ring too. And I found that a soul spear can penatrate through ghosts and I managed to take out like 8 with one crystal soul spear. So try using magic if it doesn't work.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']Only way back to firelink I think is to backtrack to lower blightown and ride the waterwheel up to Valley of the drakes and then new londo ruin, at least until you get the Lordvessel and you can warp.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm... looks like I will press on then. I didn't see the waterwheel at all in Blighttown; I kept getting turned around, and I'm sure I've missed a ton of stuff. Also, Blighttown doesn't remind me as much of Valley of Defilement, except for all the little shacks and stuff. Blighttown is much easier to navigate though IMO. Those damned giants in Valley of Defilement sucked balls.

[quote name='IRHari']Did you already get infected and is he selling stuff to you? If so, I think your intelligence needs to be something like 11 or 12. After you join the Chaos Servant Covenannt, talk to him and he'll start selling you pyromancy. Since you don't have a pyromancy glove on you, after you talk to him he should give you one for free.

Just FYI, they're looking to nerf pyromancy big time in the next patch.[/QUOTE]

No, I have not. The wiki says now that he gives you the flame if you get infected. I'll give it a shot.

BTW, there's nothing like Talisman of Beasts in this game, right? Getting sick of switching back and fourth between different catalysts.
 
[quote name='jh6269']Hmmm... looks like I will press on then. I didn't see the waterwheel at all in Blighttown; I kept getting turned around, and I'm sure I've missed a ton of stuff. Also, Blighttown doesn't remind me as much of Valley of Defilement, except for all the little shacks and stuff. Blighttown is much easier to navigate though IMO. Those damned giants in Valley of Defilement sucked balls. [/QUOTE]
Exit qualohohula's domain into blight town turn left and follow that wall until you see a bunch of torches set up in a line. follow that path up to a ladder and climb it and you will find a water wheel of platforms. In functions in much the same way the Blacksmith Boldwin elevator did in Stonefang Tunnel. Once you find it it might be a good idea to keep going left and rest at the blight town tunnel bonfire so you will spawn there if you die. Ride the wheel up and there will be about 5 or 6 ladders within 10 feet of each other at the top which leads up to a tunnel with several dung-covered fat men.

Search the platforms around before going up each ladder to find some nice items like the crimson set and an estus flask upgrade.

Exit into Valley of the drakes, go straight and cross the short bridge. Turn left and unlock the door, climb the stairs to enter new londo ruins. Turn left and walk about 20 feet and you will see stairs leading up to the elevator to firelink shrine. MAKE SURE TO PULL THE LEVER if the elevator is up at firelink otherwise you will fall to your death when you step in the shaft and have to start all the way back from the last bonfire.
[quote name='jh6269']
BTW, there's nothing like Talisman of Beasts in this game, right? Getting sick of switching back and fourth between different catalysts.[/QUOTE]
Nope, which means you can't have one of each type, a melee weapon, a shield, and a bow active. Though they have something kinda that performs that function. There is a talisman which scales primarily with intelligence instead of faith, and a catalyst which scales with faith instead of intelligence. So a faith build can cast spells effectively and a mage can cast miracles effectively, it just takes 2 hand slots and enough minimum of either intelligence or faith to equip the spell/miracle.
 
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[quote name='IRHari']Throw on the fog ring too. And I found that a soul spear can penatrate through ghosts and I managed to take out like 8 with one crystal soul spear. So try using magic if it doesn't work.[/QUOTE]

Interesting...using the lightning spear at +3 and taking out a number of them. Maybe I'll crack a look at the map before I venture forth again.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']
What level are you? At first I was using the golem for summonings but I can go for long stretches when no one summons me so I am afraid I am too high or too low. The reason he gets stunned is he is like the Tower Knight from Demon's Souls, enough hits to the heel cause him to get stunned and then fall to his knees.
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I was around 55 when I was doing that. But in the course of that I added a few more and when I went back to be summoned while a member of the sunlight covenant (so I could earn medals) I didn't get summoned at all. I was probably 57 at that point. So I just gave up and went on to Anor Londo. I stopped last night after getting the chandelier item and finding that bonfire down there. I'll be heading into the painting tonight if I play. I revived to kindle that bonfire and am super-nervous about getting invaded while I explore Ariamis. Is the bonfire in there near the entrance? I'd like to kindle it and get the NPC invasion, then suicide so I can take it more liesurely. I like to put the controller down and take breaks every once in a while and you can't do that when you can get invaded at any given time. Though I did spend quite a bit of time in human form at the top of Sen's fortress and didn't get invaded much to my surprise. The thing is, I can probably handle it a lot better now than when I was in The Depths and people kept coming in with fog rings and lightning spears and I was only level 15-20 or so.
 
I think you will do fine in Anor Londo with summoning for sunlight, the Lenny and George boss fight is always a hot bed of activity for summoning. Try putting your sign down where you fought the first gargoyle as once all the shortcuts are unlocked it is a straight shot from there to the boss.

So I got all the way through Anor Londo (with help from a couple of phantoms) and got the Lordvessel, are the two hyper archers on the right side of the exterior what people were talking about having so much trouble with, or was that a different area? I didn't have any trouble getting by them, I think I just died a few times when I got careless fighting the silver knights and the electro demon, not nearly as bad as when I kept dying to the blades in Sen's Fortress.

There is a bonfire at the start of the painted world but keep in mind you cannot leave until you finish the area so make sure you are well stocked before entering.
 
@guardian_owl, thanks for the tips; I got back to Firelink. I also was able to get the pyromancy flame from the eggman.
 
Finished off Ariamis pretty easily. I had a little trouble getting the tail from Priscilla and had to suicide 2 times because I was about to kill her without getting it.

I was two-handing my Drake Sword but I forgot to do the overhead strike attack as Jodou had suggested. I just R1-d it instead and did not get it off on my first swipe (though I clearly did hit it). So then of course she turns invisible and I was randomly taking swipes until I gave up and suicided so I could try it again.

Little did I know you only get once chance for the sneak attack - she aggros and turns invisible the second you show up upon return (d'oh)! But this time I realized if I hit her with a fireball she becomes visible again so I could attack her tail. The Drake sword animation is so damn slow, however, that I could never quite get it. I would hit her or nothing instead. So I killed myself again when her health got too low.

The third time I went right in, pelted her with a fire orb to make her visible, and then went after the tail with the lightning spear. After 2 hits I got it! She's also an incredibly easy boss to beat straight up - if it wasn't for the tail it would trivial all around.

So now I'm back in Anor Londo and I have a ton of souls. I'm thinking of backtracking again to Firelink to try to buy spells from Big Hat Logan. He wouldn't sell them to me before because apparently my INT was too low. I've since raised that. But also, I see in Jodou's walkthrough that you do not want to talk to Frampt (the snake guy) when you get the Lordvessel. So I'd like to talk to him now to trade in all my extra weapons and armor. I have a ton of it and I can probably pay off a good portion of Big Hat Logan's spells by letting him eat all that extra stuff. It is my understanding that he will go away after the Lordvessel thing, right? Or can I still feed him stuff after that?

Backtracking isn't too bad except for the cage/snake mage part. But I did that without too much trouble last time. I can use Homeward to get myself all the way back to Anor Londo - just won't use any bonfires on the way back.
 
[quote name='io']So now I'm back in Anor Londo and I have a ton of souls. I'm thinking of backtracking again to Firelink to try to buy spells from Big Hat Logan. He wouldn't sell them to me before because apparently my INT was too low. I've since raised that. But also, I see in Jodou's walkthrough that you do not want to talk to Frampt (the snake guy) when you get the Lordvessel. So I'd like to talk to him now to trade in all my extra weapons and armor. I have a ton of it and I can probably pay off a good portion of Big Hat Logan's spells by letting him eat all that extra stuff. It is my understanding that he will go away after the Lordvessel thing, right? Or can I still feed him stuff after that?[/QUOTE]
Don't waste your time; I'd kill Frampt if I could because the souls he gives you for items is shit. And no, if you want to complete the perfect run he'll be gone after a later event which is why you don't want to talk to him after Anor. Just press forward and get the the vessel so you can warp around.
 
Don't stress so much about being perfect on NG because you still have to finish NG+ if you want the plat. I placed the Lord Vessel before going to New Londo, but I'll just get the Darkwraith covenant in NG+ instead of NG.

In other news, I finished New Londo last night. I helped two people beat the boss before I had even gone all the way down there in my game. Then one of the guys I helped sent me a "thanks" msg so I asked him if he'd help me and he said sure, and I was able to summon him and beat the boss first try in my game. that was a great feeling, reminded me of the co-op in Demon's Souls and this was the first night I've been able to successfully have multiple co-op sessions.

After that I placed my sign down and got summoned, and boy was it harder. Got thrashed by the boss and after I messaged the guy I found out it was NG+. Kind of crazy that he was at the same point in NG+ that all of the rest of the guys I had played with (and myself) were at for NG.

Edit: I was at level 77. I had been at 61 when I started New Londo, but after the 877k soul bonus from the forest invasion (see earlier in this thread), I leveled up 16 times and spent all the points on Int. I think I've been a little under-leveled compared to many people which might have been hurting my multi-player chances. I finished Anor Londo at around 50 and Duk's Archives below 60.
 
[quote name='Backlash']Don't stress so much about being perfect on NG because you still have to finish NG+ if you want the plat. I placed the Lord Vessel before going to New Londo, but I'll just get the Darkwraith covenant in NG+ instead of NG.

In other news, I finished New Londo last night. I helped two people beat the boss before I had even gone all the way down there in my game. Then one of the guys I helped sent me a "thanks" msg so I asked him if he'd help me and he said sure, and I was able to summon him and beat the boss first try in my game. that was a great feeling, reminded me of the co-op in Demon's Souls and this was the first night I've been able to successfully have multiple co-op sessions.

After that I placed my sign down and got summoned, and boy was it harder. Got thrashed by the boss and after I messaged the guy I found out it was NG+. Kind of crazy that he was at the same point in NG+ that all of the rest of the guys I had played with (and myself) were at for NG.

Edit: I was at level 77. I had been at 61 when I started New Londo, but after the 877k soul bonus from the forest invasion (see earlier in this thread), I leveled up 16 times and spent all the points on Int. I think I've been a little under-leveled compared to many people which might have been hurting my multi-player chances. I finished Anor Londo at around 50 and Duk's Archives below 60.[/QUOTE]
I find it hard to have co-op sessions which surprises me, but come to think of it , I may not be putting my soul sign down in the right place. Where did you put yours down when you helped kill the boss?
 
I was putting my soul sign down right before the very first bridge, where there's a couple of the pink undead guys praying (or whatever they're doing). And two of the guys I helped picked up another phantom at that same spot, so it seems popular. Although one time someone did pick up a phantom right before the fog door to the tower that leads down to the boss.

Which reminds me: one time I got a sunlight medal for killing the boss in New Londo. So I guess you can earn sunlight medals if one of the helper phantoms is in the Sunlight convenant? Because I surely wasn't in it (can't join quite yet), and we definitely didn't have Solaire with us (I don't think you can summon him in New Londo anyway), and I think the other phantom was kind of gold-colored.
 
[quote name='Backlash']Which reminds me: one time I got a sunlight medal for killing the boss in New Londo. So I guess you can earn sunlight medals if one of the helper phantoms is in the Sunlight convenant? Because I surely wasn't in it (can't join quite yet), and we definitely didn't have Solaire with us (I don't think you can summon him in New Londo anyway), and I think the other phantom was kind of gold-colored.[/QUOTE]
Yep, if anyone of the phantoms are in the sunlight covenant everyone gets a medal.
 
[quote name='Backlash']Don't stress so much about being perfect on NG because you still have to finish NG+ if you want the plat. I placed the Lord Vessel before going to New Londo, but I'll just get the Darkwraith covenant in NG+ instead of NG.

In other news, I finished New Londo last night. I helped two people beat the boss before I had even gone all the way down there in my game. Then one of the guys I helped sent me a "thanks" msg so I asked him if he'd help me and he said sure, and I was able to summon him and beat the boss first try in my game. that was a great feeling, reminded me of the co-op in Demon's Souls and this was the first night I've been able to successfully have multiple co-op sessions.

After that I placed my sign down and got summoned, and boy was it harder. Got thrashed by the boss and after I messaged the guy I found out it was NG+. Kind of crazy that he was at the same point in NG+ that all of the rest of the guys I had played with (and myself) were at for NG.

Edit: I was at level 77. I had been at 61 when I started New Londo, but after the 877k soul bonus from the forest invasion (see earlier in this thread), I leveled up 16 times and spent all the points on Int. I think I've been a little under-leveled compared to many people which might have been hurting my multi-player chances. I finished Anor Londo at around 50 and Duk's Archives below 60.[/QUOTE]

You're pretty over-leveled. Many people beat NG at a SL less than 80, which is why you were summoned into NG+.
 
[quote name='gettinmoney662']You're pretty over-leveled. Many people beat NG at a SL less than 80, which is why you were summoned into NG+.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I got 16 "free" levels from an invasion of a guy in the forest who had 877k souls on him. I was only 61 before that. But I was summoned into 4 games, 3 of which were NG and only one of which was NG+. And I'd think even if you're under 80 when you finish NG, you'd be over 77 by the time you got around to beating New Londo again in NG+. Also, I only have the Demon Ruins left, so I'll probably only be around 80 or even under still when I finish NG, depending on how much more co-op assistance I do.
 
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[quote name='Backlash']Yeah, I got 16 "free" levels from an invasion of a guy in the forest who had 877k souls on him. I was only 61 before that. But I was summoned into 4 games, 3 of which were NG and only one of which was NG+. And I'd think even if you're under 80 when you finish NG, you'd be over 77 by the time you got around to beating New Londo again in NG+.[/QUOTE]

I still am jealous of that. Almost a million souls and you got it for nothing :lol:
And I think he doesn't lose his souls either, because when I was in the Forest Hunter covenant, I never lost anything when I got killed.
 
Yeah, I was getting summoned into what I assume were first-playthroughs at the Iron Golem at around levels 55-60 and that is before Anor Londo/New Londo/alot of other stuff. I suppose they could have been NG+ but he didn't seem any harder.

And I got 2 sunlight medals on 4 attemps so they were definitely from the other phantoms (or the host I guess). Now I'm in the sunlight covenant and haven't been able to get summoned since. I may try helping out on Priscilla when I get the Lordvessel. I assume you can warp into Ariamis as well, right? I need to farm the crow demons too. I killed about 12 or so in my regular playthrough and didn't get a single drop so the rate is definitely pretty low on those guys. I've been wearing the covetous whatever ring for a while now.

I was in human form to fight that NPC in the snowy outside area (since he drops 30K souls and some humanity and you get his armor after Priscilla) and got invaded (by another player). This time I ran back to the bonfire and waited and the guy showed up pretty quickly. I see what you guys mean about lag. I attacked him a few times and did not seem to make contact though my spear went right through him - then all of a sudden he was backstabbing me in the front, twice. That is some seriously messed up shit. He must have rolled around me or something but I never saw that happen.
 
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You can't warp into the Painted World; you can only warp to certain bonfires (mostly the ones with a firekeeper or a convenant person). Also, the painted world is "disconnected" (in-game description) from the rest of Lordran so I don't think you can warp out of it either, though I haven't been back since I got the LordVessel.

Also, I thought once you beat the boss the NPCs wouldn't invade you? I missed pretty much all of them my first time through so I'll have to get them in NG+ I guess. Although I did summon someone to help me with Quelaag, and that person killed Maneater Mildred when she invaded. I didn't realize Maneater Mildred was an NPC, though, and I was focused on just getting to the boss room alive, so I didn't pick up her drops. :facepalm:

What do the crow demons drop that you want to farm?
 
[quote name='Backlash']You can't warp into the Painted World; you can only warp to certain bonfires (mostly the ones with a firekeeper or a convenant person). Also, the painted world is "disconnected" (in-game description) from the rest of Lordran so I don't think you can warp out of it either, though I haven't been back since I got the LordVessel.

Also, I thought once you beat the boss the NPCs wouldn't invade you? I missed pretty much all of them my first time through so I'll have to get them in NG+ I guess. Although I did summon someone to help me with Quelaag, and that person killed Maneater Mildred when she invaded. I didn't realize Maneater Mildred was an NPC, though, and I was focused on just getting to the boss room alive, so I didn't pick up her drops. :facepalm:

What do the crow demons drop that you want to farm?[/QUOTE]

Well, crap, I thought you could warp to any of them. You can still get to Ariamis through the painting, though, right? Jodou's guide says you can farm the crows for Souvenirs of Reprisal (10 needed for the Darkmoon covenant).

As for the NPC in Ariamis, I had not beaten the boss yet so I don't know if he would come afterwards. I beat Priscilla at the end before I quit playing for the night. When you do so, you get all that NPC's armor on a corpse right past Priscilla (that's what I meant by "after Priscilla"). It didn't seem particularly great, but I'm tyring to collect all the armor I can for if/when they nerf the gold-hemmed set.
 
You can't warp to it, but close enough that you just have to run down and into the painting again. And no, once a boss is killed NOTHING can invade.
 
[quote name='io']Well, crap, I thought you could warp to any of them. You can still get to Ariamis through the painting, though, right? Jodou's guide says you can farm the crows for Souvenirs of Reprisal (10 needed for the Darkmoon covenant).

As for the NPC in Ariamis, I had not beaten the boss yet so I don't know if he would come afterwards. I beat Priscilla at the end before I quit playing for the night. When you do so, you get all that NPC's armor on a corpse right past Priscilla (that's what I meant by "after Priscilla"). It didn't seem particularly great, but I'm tyring to collect all the armor I can for if/when they nerf the gold-hemmed set.[/QUOTE]
There's a corpse after beating Priscilla? Where exactly is this? I remember I beat her and I just want to straight to the ledge which triggered the cutscene.
 
[quote name='Assasin']There's a corpse after beating Priscilla? Where exactly is this? I remember I beat her and I just want to straight to the ledge which triggered the cutscene.[/QUOTE]

Only if you beat the NPC invader first. He's down in the lower area off of the main courtyard.
 
[quote name='Backlash']Only if you beat the NPC invader first. He's down in the lower area off of the main courtyard.[/QUOTE]
Damn I missed that! I was in undead form so now I have go through another playthrough to get kill him.
 
[quote name='Assasin']There's a corpse after beating Priscilla? Where exactly is this? I remember I beat her and I just want to straight to the ledge which triggered the cutscene.[/QUOTE]

It is right after you beat her and before you head down steps to the end where you jump off (and go back to Anor Londo). It is in a little recess on the left. Like I said, the armor isn't all that great, though I was playing around with changing some pieces out for the gold-hemmed set since I now have a little more weight capacity and I found tha the gauntlets from that set are better in every way than the gold-hemmed except for poison and maybe fire defense. And the set (Xanthous) from this NPC is kind of cool looking because it is all golden. So right now I have all gold-hemmed (which has no gold on it at all from what I can tell) except for the truly-golden gloves ;).

So last night I cleared most of Anor Londo. It wasn't too bad with some poison arrows at my disposal. I just need to handle the boss there, and I think, another NPC invasion? Unfortunately I lost my souls + humanity at a stupid place (just got careless with some knights and got killed twice before I could retrieve) so I'll have to blow a Humanity item on it.

I'm a little unclear on what you are saying about the two boss fight coming up Jodou? Who should I kill first and who second and why does it matter? I guess I don't get why it matters since you have to kill both anyway. Or is it because one is so much harder in NG+ and you want to take him out first then (and thus the second this time)? But, basically, who should I go after first this time - the one that doesn't engage with Solaire?
 
[quote name='io']I'm a little unclear on what you are saying about the two boss fight coming up Jodou? Who should I kill first and who second and why does it matter? I guess I don't get why it matters since you have to kill both anyway. Or is it because one is so much harder in NG+ and you want to take him out first then (and thus the second this time)? But, basically, who should I go after first this time - the one that doesn't engage with Solaire?[/QUOTE]
You answered your own question. Like I said in the guide, kill Ornstein (the skinny dragoon) last this time. It'll all make sense once you do it.
 
I ended up killing Ornstein first since I was doing it by myself and killing him last is so much harder, and I was just sick of that battle and wanted to progress. So now I'll have to kill him last in NG+, whee. I think my best hope is to try to arrange a summoning beforehand with someone who knows I need to kill Smough first (hopefully with a fellow CAG).
 
Ya, I summoned two people, I was "-" close to finishing off Smough when they killed Ornstein first so now I'll have to deal with Super George in NG+

You think the devs took a perverse pleasure in making the antiquated skirt so awesome to see how many male characters they could persuade to wear a dress?
 
[quote name='Jodou']You answered your own question. Like I said in the guide, kill Ornstein (the skinny dragoon) last this time. It'll all make sense once you do it.[/QUOTE]

OK, I wanted to be sure I knew who to go after as I have no idea what they look like. So I want to kill the fatter/bigger one first, right?

[quote name='guardian_owl']Ya, I summoned two people, I was "-" close to finishing off Smough when they killed Ornstein first so now I'll have to deal with Super George in NG+[/quote]

This is why I'm hesitant to summon anyone besides Solaire, or even maybe just to try it myself (at least at first). I don't think most people will be thinking along those lines and will just be there to pummel whichever one they can first. Afterwards, I'll probably try to help out to get my last 3 sunlight medals and I'll make sure to attack Smough first.

[quote name='guardian_owl']You think the devs took a perverse pleasure in making the antiquated skirt so awesome to see how many male characters they could persuade to wear a dress?[/QUOTE]

Well, and also the gold-hemmed set is Quelana's old clothes so that is pretty much a long skirt - though maybe not as frilly-sounding as the one you mention (which I haven't seen yet).
 
What I usually do when being summoned for the boss fight is to "attack" whichever boss the host is not attacking. Usually that involves babysitting Ornstein with my shield up, jabbing him occasionally to keep his attention on me while the host attacks Smough.

What you can always do is keep the black separation crystal on your quick item swap. If they are about to kill Ornstein first (or did kill Ornstein first), use the black crystal to send them all home and either try and finish the fight on your own, use a bone to return to a bonfire, or quit and reload to be put back outside the fog gate (assuming it works the same way as in Demon's Souls).
 
Pretty sure the anitquated skirt and gold-hemmed set was never supposed to be that awesome. It even says in the description that it doesn't provide much physical protection since it's just a skirt and it weighs so little. I understand why they're nerfing them if they ever get the patch working. That said, I'm wearing the antiquated skirt as a dude :)
 
Yeah, even with the gold-hemmed set I can still get pummeled by the silver knights in Anor Londo if I'm not careful. I'd hate to have to go to something heavier and with worse stats. Hopefully they hold off on that patch for another month or so ;).

So I got a Demon Spear last night. Any thoughts on using that instead of the lightning spear? It seems to have both physical and lightning damage just like the lightning spear, but it also scales with strength/dexterity. Would that be worth upgrading and using instead?

I am trying to pump Str and Dex up to 20 so I can use that dragonslayer bow I just found too. I was only at 16 for each after putting nearly all my last 30 points or so into Vit and End. With Str/Dex pumped up a bit it makes more sense to start looking at scaling weapons.
 
I dunno how much effort you want to put into your bow. I think the DragonSlayer bow can only be used with DragonSlayer arrows, which are 500 each. Pricey!

If there's other weapons you need more Str and Dex for, fine, but I wouldn't raise those just for the bow when you could use those points for more Vit and End, or Int or Faith if you want to use certain miracles or spells. I STRONGLY recommend getting enough Int to use Cast Light (15 or 16 I think) before you go through the Tomb of the Giants. Makes a HUGE difference.

Personally, I mostly use the bow to pull enemies one at a time when they're standing in a group, so I never put any specific souls towards that (I did upgrade my longbow to +5 but that was cheap).
 
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