Dark Souls (Project Dark) - October 4, 2011

Sen's Fortress is pissing me off.

[quote name='Brainberry']Where do I get the dragon scale needed to upgrade the Drake Sword.[/QUOTE]

Wyvern's drop them rarely. If you go to
Ash Lake, there are about 3 or 4 on the ground. If you beat the hydra there, it dropped 2 for me.

Although, you may want to not upgrade the drake sword. Even fully upgraded it will lose its worth. And if you want to level up a certain covenant you'll need 20 scales to do it.
 
[quote name='Backlash']Also, it's so weird not getting anything good from the bosses like we did in Demon's Souls. You used to get an awesome soul and your body. I really wish you got a humanity and some special soul. Or at least a good amount of souls. 1k is paltry.[/QUOTE]

You get special weapons for chopping off certain enemies tails also later in the game you do get special souls for defeating bosses. A lot of what you have faced so far is mini-bosses that become regular enemies later on.
 
according to the Official Strategy Guide, if you die you can go to your bloodstain and recover your lost humanity....is that right?
 
[quote name='Poor2More']according to the Official Strategy Guide, if you die you can go to your bloodstain and recover your lost humanity....is that right?[/QUOTE]

You regain humanity you haven't used.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']You regain humanity you haven't used.[/QUOTE]

Yes, like the humanity in the top left of the screen correct?
 
So I'm assuming they kept that hint system from the last game intact in this one, right? If so, how many of them are repeats? I remember seeing 'this is harsh evaluate me' or something similar A LOT in Demon's Souls.

Any good hints out there in the game world?
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']So I'm assuming they kept that hint system from the last game intact in this one, right? If so, how many of them are repeats? I remember seeing 'this is harsh evaluate me' or something similar A LOT in Demon's Souls.

Any good hints out there in the game world?[/QUOTE]

It's pretty much the same system. There are sometimes some good hints, but then sometimes people lie and tell you to jump to your death or something.

There are also a ton of "I did it!", "Praise the sun!" and "I can't take this." I hardly ever look at them anymore.
 
I don't know if I'm just doing that good, or I have been lucky, as I killed the Capra Demon on my second try (after killing the gargoyles on my 1st) at like level 22 or so
sprint up the stairs immediately to get breathing room to kill the dogs and then able to engage the boss 1 on 1

Finally was able to buy miracles from that guy after
entering the Depths
and his companion's arrived.

What confuses me about the the upgrade system is certain items seem to require different "ore" types arbitrarily. Trying to decide what shield to upgrade a little bit with easily purchasable ore to carry me to an endgame shield (thinking dead soldier's shield).
 
I just did about 30 minutes of farming in the sewer for Humanity (mutated rats) and large Titanite Shards (Slimes), I notice the first 20 minutes I got 8x humanity & 6 Large Shards, but for the last 15-20 minutes Rats havent droped a single humanity, so is their a set amount of Humanity you can farm? If so how do I reset it so I can farm some more?
 
This game is just sitting on my shelf. I want to play it but I know if I do I will get sucked in and then be up till 9am every day thus being worthless at work.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']It's pretty much the same system. There are sometimes some good hints, but then sometimes people lie and tell you to jump to your death or something.

There are also a ton of "I did it!", "Praise the sun!" and "I can't take this." I hardly ever look at them anymore.[/QUOTE]
I kinda figured. Oh well. At least Amazon seems to be shipping me the copies of the guide I ordered the other day sooner rather than later, so I'll just refer to that if I get stuck.;)
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']I kinda figured. Oh well. At least Amazon seems to be shipping me the copies of the guide I ordered the other day sooner rather than later, so I'll just refer to that if I get stuck.;)[/QUOTE]

Hurray! Cheapest is playing w/us ;)

Welcome :bouncy:
 
[quote name='jh6269']Hurray! Cheapest is playing w/us ;)

Welcome :bouncy:[/QUOTE]
That's the weird part. I haven't picked up the game yet(gonna finally try and see if I can locate a CE at a GS around here today sometime), but I have the guide on order from Amazon from when it was $13.74 a copy on Saturday for a while.

If I can't find a CE at GS, then I'll most likely just order a copy of the normal edition from Amazon.

Then again, I still have yet to play through Demon's Souls.:cry::whistle2:#
 
Took out Capra on try #4. I simply wasn't patient enough before. I feel bad for the guy trying to help me on run 2.

What's up with the lightning guy? Any hints, other that avoid the lightning.
 
[quote name='jmbreci']Took out Capra on try #4. I simply wasn't patient enough before. I feel bad for the guy trying to help me on run 2.

What's up with the lightning guy? Any hints, other that avoid the lightning.[/QUOTE]

The mini-boss near the blacksmith?

If that's the one your talking about just roll behind him and smack away. Really the best advice is to roll and avoid the lightning.
 
[quote name='Brainberry']After the second bell how far into the game is it(completion wise)[/QUOTE]
I haven't actually completed the game yet, but my guess is halfway, maybe less.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']I haven't actually completed the game yet, but my guess is halfway, maybe less.[/QUOTE]

The bell is all the way at the bottom of blight? So if I take the shortcut through firelink all I have to do is keep climbing down the ladders?

Also, whats the best way to handle toxic? Do I need to stock up on a certain potion?
 
You can heal toxic with purple moss. I'm pretty sure the female undead merchant in the sewer sells it plus the tree monsters in Darkroot Garden drop it fairly often.

I've been stuck in Blight Town almost all day, and the awful frame rate makes it that much more unbearable. That said I am enjoying the game, and tomorrow is another day.

PS, the strategy guide is really great and totally worth the money.
 
[quote name='Brainberry']After the second bell how far into the game is it(completion wise)[/QUOTE]

It all depends on how direct of a path you took to get to the second bell. If you went Undead Burg - Undead Parish (bell) - Depths - Blighttown - Quelaags Domain (bell) then I would say you are about 20-25% through the game. You still have several areas to go to.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']Sen's Fortress is pissing me off. [/QUOTE]

That was the first area in the game that made me rage and turn off the game.
 
I'm in the Painted World now. I wish things actually had a painted look to them or something. Time for me to take a break. I already killed the first boss of the area and opened the way to the actual boss, but I'm getting killed too often by normal enemies trying to find the last couple items I need.

Are you able to come back to this place after you beat it?

[quote name='LordVila']That was the first area in the game that made me rage and turn off the game.[/QUOTE]

I was able to beat it after many many tries. Things got a lot easier when I found the lightning spear. The drake sword just wasn't cutting it anymore. Luckily the enemies in Sen's Fortress are easy to backstab.

I still have to go back there someday because I was unable to find the hush spell.
 
Ok, I'm trying to kill the Hellkite Dragon with arrows. I'm level 22, my dexterity is 15, and I'm using the long bow with standard and large arrows. He keeps on reviving his health, and I just can't overcome his recoveries. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to kill him? If I stand where the rats are, I can get about 14 or so damage; if I stand on the other side, where his cut-off tail is, I can get about 19 damage. How much damage does it take per shot to kill him? (PS. I tried that method to go where the black knight is and shoot an arrow at him, but he's not there when I get to the black knight tower).
 
I'm loving that lightning spear. Have it at +3 right now and I can't wait to get more chunks to lv it up.
Wasted a bunch of time today it seems. Went to 2 areas that had a golden fog in them and took me at least over an hour for each to find this out. Then went to kill some ghost underground and after clearing all them (close to 2 hours) out I had no way to proceed farther. Now on to the empty tree and Ash Lake to actually make some progress.
 
[quote name='jh6269'](PS. I tried that method to go where the black knight is and shoot an arrow at him, but he's not there when I get to the black knight tower).[/QUOTE]

From what I've read that got patched (I tried it too). No more 1 arrow kill dragon.

For those having low framerate in Blight Town coming from the Depths; I suggest try quitting and reloading your game, and try not to destroy the vases and wood structures. It helps a bit, but the low framerate issue is still there.
 
[quote name='deviousnaraku']From what I've read that got patched (I tried it too). No more 1 arrow kill dragon.[/QUOTE]

When did it get patched? I did it no issues yesterday ~ 3:30PM.

And yeah, what's with everyone buying the stone to leave a message, and then just saying "Praise the sun!" all over the damned place. I really really wish they had kept messages the same from DS: anyone at any time leave it, if it gets a +rep your health refilled. Really encouraged the kind of community cooperation the developers claim to be shooting for.

Lastly, I've really gotta start, any time I have 2 humanity pts (not items) to revive and kindle a fire. I keep hoarding them (for loot drop increase) but always end up dying and not recovering them :(
 
[quote name='Zmonkay']When did it get patched? I did it no issues yesterday ~ 3:30PM.

And yeah, what's with everyone buying the stone to leave a message, and then just saying "Praise the sun!" all over the damned place. I really really wish they had kept messages the same from DS: anyone at any time leave it, if it gets a +rep your health refilled. Really encouraged the kind of community cooperation the developers claim to be shooting for.

Lastly, I've really gotta start, any time I have 2 humanity pts (not items) to revive and kindle a fire. I keep hoarding them (for loot drop increase) but always end up dying and not recovering them :([/QUOTE]
If someone rates your message +1 I believe you get either a life fill or +1 flask.

If someone rates your message -1, it spawns a monster near you.

I think thats way cooler and does encourage that co-op.
 
[quote name='Zmonkay']
Lastly, I've really gotta start, any time I have 2 humanity pts (not items) to revive and kindle a fire. I keep hoarding them (for loot drop increase) but always end up dying and not recovering them :([/QUOTE]

Yesterday I noticed while playing that I had one humanity for some reason (anyone know why that seems to happen sometimes?). So I went ahead and figured I'd increase Firelink again so I could get 15 flasks. I reversed hollowing for the first time ever and became human. Than I used a humanity item and tried to kindle, only to find out that you can't get to level 3 fires without some special secret rite. Ah, well.

Is there any difference between being human and being hollow other than summoning allies and being invaded? It seems like there were a lot more differences in Demon's Souls between body and soul form (health, damage, noise, etc) than there are in this game.
 
[quote name='LordVila']
You get special weapons for chopping off certain enemies tails also later in the game you do get special souls for defeating bosses. A lot of what you have faced so far is mini-bosses that become regular enemies later on.
[/QUOTE]

Ok, maybe the Capra Demon isn't a boss, but he's behind a fog door, has his own big energy meter across the bottom of the screen, and you're trapped until you beat him. Similar to Taurus Demon. And surely the gargoyles are a boss? At any rate, there just doesn't seem to be much reward for such enemies.

Also, I have been trying to focus on ememies' tails, as that seems to be a big thing in this game. In fact, I was quite surprised when (spoiler about just past blacksmith)
I waled on that lightning demon's tail and it never came off. That thing was huge and obvious.
 
[quote name='LordVila']The mini-boss near the blacksmith?

If that's the one your talking about just roll behind him and smack away. Really the best advice is to roll and avoid the lightning.[/QUOTE]

I had a lot of success staying behind him and whacking away at his tail. Save some stamina to be able to roll if necessary (as always in this game). If he jumps up, try to get far from him and then once you're all reset, get in close behind him again as soon as possible. The lightning is easy to dodge from far, and he won't shoot it when you're in close, especially behind him. Every once in awhile he'll swing his tail at you if you get a little too far away from his body, but it doesn't do much damage and you can block it with your shield also. The best thing about this fight is how close you are to the respawn bonfire :)
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']I've never seen the dragon from the top of that tower.[/QUOTE]

It takes a few times. I would go up to the top of the tower occasionally and finally spotted him. Shot one arrow at his head, he flew off and died as I was heading back to where he was.

Are all the Black Phantoms random encounters? I was going up the tower where the first Taurus demon was and I got 100xp randomly. I started crossing the bridge and noticed the archers werent shooting me. Turns out a crab looking phantom killed them. I died by falling off the bridge, when I went back, I got another 100xp notice, the archers were gone, but there was no Black Phantom.
 
I have no idea what this lightning demon every that everyone is talking about is...

[quote name='Bezerker']
Are all the Black Phantoms random encounters? I was going up the tower where the first Taurus demon was and I got 100xp randomly. I started crossing the bridge and noticed the archers werent shooting me. Turns out a crab looking phantom killed them. I died by falling off the bridge, when I went back, I got another 100xp notice, the archers were gone, but there was no Black Phantom.[/QUOTE]

As far as I know, there isn't a black phantom around there. There are only 4 NPC black phantoms (one of which you can fight 3 different times) and they aren't random. The first one you encounter should be in
the depths
.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']I have no idea what this lightning demon every that everyone is talking about is...[/QUOTE]

It's the one in the room just down the stairs from the Blacksmith. He shoots lightning at you when you're far away - he doesn't have lightning on his body or anything like that. If I remember correctly, his head kind of looks like a tuning fork or horseshoe.
 
Getting the plat for this game is going to be near impossible without trading rare weapons with a friend. I'm getting close to the end of the game now and I still don't have the Black Knight Greatsword and Priscilla for some stupid reason wouldn't allow me to chop off her tail (probably should have killed myself), so only way to get that one is play through the game again. They made this game 4x as long as the first, so as far as NG+ goes that's pretty lame. To top it off, I believe I read they remove any unused boss souls when starting one! If anything, NG+ should reset no-respawn enemies, up the difficulty AND THAT'S IT. Maybe I'm wrong and it does exactly that, but deep down I just know that they want to fuck with me and force us to go through the trouble of side areas again just for rare items, such as embers for the blacksmith.

First time through, some places are just infuriatingly bad levels. I appreciate the sense of dread, but most of the time I couldn't care less about my corpse and just want to progress. The first game was just superior in that respect because they do balance difficulty with learning what to do. Now they just made some places cheap as fuck to mess with you. At that point, I found saying to hell with it and just sprinting to the goal worked better. That's when the game breaks in terms of design IMO.
 
[quote name='jmbreci']Took out Capra on try #4. I simply wasn't patient enough before. I feel bad for the guy trying to help me on run 2.

What's up with the lightning guy? Any hints, other that avoid the lightning.[/QUOTE]
Avoid lightning, get in close enough that he stops casting lightning, rush forward and roll behind him as he prepares to swing. Jab him in the back as much as you can, if he knacks you good, roll to the closest exit to heal up with heal or flasks and attack again.
 
I beat lightning scorpion on first try. A couple whacks with sword, but the just backed way up, don't roll, strafe left to right and soul arrow him after each time he misses you.

Also, I have to say the drake sword saved my disc. I was ready to snap my disc I Half trying to beat the undead Parrish. Finally I quit trying to beat it, ground oh four levels into strength and equipped the drake sword. That thing is as fast as the short sword, but o e hit kills most of enemies, where as before it was taking me 6 hits on the weaklings.

Not some questions for me.

In the undead Parrish, before going to blacksmith, there is that huge knight and those really roughed caped knights: killed them, but there is a guy (priest?) soul arrowing me from above. Just left him. Is there a way to get up there and kill him? I am saved at blacksmith now, after killing lightning scorpion: should I have encountered a bell yet? I am worried it was up my soul arrow priest.

I find that I never get critical hit backstabs. Yet I am sure I am nailing some of these guys in the back. I was using short sword and spear for most of game which should be able to do that. It it just a lot harder to do in dark souls or am i missing something?

Is it worth Savin humanity and unhollowing on first playthrough? I have had 0 humanity for most of game. What humanity level do you need to unhollow?

-s
 
[quote name='snowsquirrel']In the undead Parrish, before going to blacksmith, there is that huge knight and those really roughed caped knights: killed them, but there is a guy (priest?) soul arrowing me from above. Just left him. Is there a way to get up there and kill him? I am saved at blacksmith now, after killing lightning scorpion: should I have encountered a bell yet? I am worried it was up my soul arrow priest.
[/QUOTE]

Yes, you'll need to explore the church a bit more now that you've killed that big knight with the tower shield.
Inside the churck, directly opposite the entrance of the church from the blackmith area, is an elevator that takes you back to Firelink shrine - awesome shortcut. That's also where the stairs to the upper levels are. Kill the magic guy (he won't respawn), then head back to Firelink to fill up Estus flasks if needed and keep heading upwards.
 
[quote name='snowsquirrel']
In the undead Parrish, before going to blacksmith, there is that huge knight and those really roughed caped knights: killed them, but there is a guy (priest?) soul arrowing me from above. Just left him. Is there a way to get up there and kill him? I am saved at blacksmith now, after killing lightning scorpion: should I have encountered a bell yet? I am worried it was up my soul arrow priest.
[/QUOTE]
I missed it the first time too,
on the left side of the front of the church is an elevator down to firelink and a staircase up to the the soul arrow guy.
 
[quote name='snowsquirrel']
In the undead Parrish, before going to blacksmith, there is that huge knight and those really roughed caped knights: killed them, but there is a guy (priest?) soul arrowing me from above. Just left him. Is there a way to get up there and kill him? I am saved at blacksmith now, after killing lightning scorpion: should I have encountered a bell yet? I am worried it was up my soul arrow priest.
[/QUOTE]

The bell is located past the magic using enemy. From the blacksmith go back to the undead parish. You will be in the large building. Straight in front of you you will see what looks like elevators. Ride one down and then back up to open up a short cut to the Firelink Shrine. Next to the elevator you will see a stair case leading up. That will lead you to the enemy you mentioned and the boss.

[quote name='snowsquirrel']
I find that I never get critical hit backstabs. Yet I am sure I am nailing some of these guys in the back. I was using short sword and spear for most of game which should be able to do that. It it just a lot harder to do in dark souls or am i missing something?
[/QUOTE]

Don't hold down any other buttons or directions when you are lined up for a backstab.

[quote name='snowsquirrel']
Is it worth Savin humanity and unhollowing on first playthrough? I have had 0 humanity for most of game. What humanity level do you need to unhollow?
[/QUOTE]

If you want to be able to be invaded or summon help then it is worth it to be unhollow. It takes one humanity to unhollow as well. If you are unhollow you can kindle a bonfire for one humanity as well. That increases the number of flasks you get from 5 to 10 at that bonfire.
 
Shoot, i lit the bonfire after defeating lightning scorpion, I wonder if the caped body guard back in church come back to life.... oh well, they were actually fun to fight.

Does filling flasks at fire link reset the enemies in an area like the normal bonfires?

Thanks for all the help... we need cheepyd to make a separate forum for this game!
 
[quote name='snowsquirrel']Shoot, i lit the bonfire after defeating lightning scorpion, I wonder if the caped body guard back in church come back to life.... oh well, they were actually fun to fight.

Does filling flasks at fire link reset the enemies in an area like the normal bonfires?
[/QUOTE]

Yes to both.
 
If you just light the fire, the enemies won't come back. It's only if you actually rest.

Just going down to Firelink will reset the enemies even if you don't rest.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']
Finally was able to buy miracles from that guy after
entering the Depths
and his companion's arrived.
[/QUOTE]

I think I screwed myself slightly here. I started as a Pyromancer, so only 8 faith. I finally decided to get my faith up to level 12 to get Heal and maybe another miracle. I had it up to level 11 when that guy's companions arrived. But next time I went back they were all gone. Now I wish I had put those three stat points into Endurance, or Strength, or almost anywhere else (even Intelligence would make my fire spells better, I guess). Heal doesn't seem as important anyway with the Estus Flask system giving you 5-10 (or more, later) heals.
 
[quote name='Backlash']I think I screwed myself slightly here. I started as a Pyromancer, so only 8 faith. I finally decided to get my faith up to level 12 to get Heal and maybe another miracle. I had it up to level 11 when that guy's companions arrived. But next time I went back they were all gone. Now I wish I had put those three stat points into Endurance, or Strength, or almost anywhere else (even Intelligence would make my fire spells better, I guess). Heal doesn't seem as important anyway with the Estus Flask system giving you 5-10 (or more, later) heals.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, he comes back next time you load the game, I thought the same thing too "crap, I've lost miracles forever." Heal is really helpful as a band aid between tough fights so that I can save my flasks for emergency situations.

Had the most fun so far in the return to Asylum:
Sparring with the black knight in the narrow hallway near my old cell is intense and felt like the first proper duel I've fought so far as there is no cheesing it. Also I LOLed at the trap in the boss chamber when I was heading back to the nest to leave as I somehow missed it the first time walking through.

Built up enough souls to buy the crest from the blacksmith for "easy" soul farming in the gardens but so far every enemy I've found is either kicking my ass or worth few souls. Any tips? Tried searching back through the thread for the post but can't seem to find it.
 
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[quote name='guardian_owl']
Built up enough souls to buy the crest from the blacksmith for "easy" soul farming in the gardens but so far every enemy I've found is either kicking my ass or worth few souls. Any tips? Tried searching back through the thread for the post but can't seem to find it.[/QUOTE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp6IKCG1U8U&feature=player_embedded


Just run in an upside down "U" until you get to the edge with everybody following you.
 
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