Diamond and Pearl Thread 1-A (Friend Codes; Online Discussion; Trades, Battles, etc.)

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Some kid is bound to trade in the game as soon as they get it because many kids automatically are like "I don't like this game" after like 2 seconds of play then they never touch it again. The problem is that used copies of this game will be just as much as new ones.

Oops 52 preorders and 50 copies coming in.. sounds like 2 people are going to be really dissapointed... makes me wonder if Nintendo can fill demand for those 533,000 preorders that they got across the usa! If people ordered diamond than they will want diamond and will not be willing to take the other version. Either that or there will be very few extra copies available for those that didn't preorder, since the preorder demand on this title was extra high.

I think it was discussed earlier in this thread (or somewhere else, I can't remember) that the reason diamond is more popular is because the pink color of pearl is not popular with boys and males, and that diamond is the cool color for boys and males to have. No little boy wants to be stuck with a pink game!
 
Damn, I preordered at toysrus and my order hasn't shipped yet, has anyone's? Also, does anyone know if Walmart will have a midnight launch?
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']no it doesn't mean anything, in a week tops, they'll rip it. everything will be cracked. copy protection just delays it for people that won't pay for it. wow...[/QUOTE]
I just explained how it does mean something. I know it will eventually be broke, but If the copy protection wasn't there, thousands of people would be playing it already. wow....
 
[quote name='pete5883']I watched a video on IGN and it didn't seem like you were able to choose your starter and trade right away. I just thought that when you first start the game, one would be more interested in playing and getting into the game than in exploiting it via repetition.[/quote]

I would be more interested in getting right into the game, but I'd also like all 3 starters, and trading for them via wifi later will be a pain. It's much easier to do it now, know I have legit versions of all three, and then go into the game.
 
My Wal-Mart had 12 copies of each already in the case today, but they wouldn't sell them.

Rather than drive out of town to Circuit City, looks like i'll probably be at Wal-Mart at midnight saturday to get my copy instead. I must sday the holographic covers on the cases look damn sexful.
 
[quote name='zewone']I just explained how it does mean something. I know it will eventually be broke, but If the copy protection wasn't there, thousands of people would be playing it already. wow....[/QUOTE]

no it doesn't mean anything, sorry to burst your bubble. people will just have to wait longer. In the end it doesn't mean jack shit. :)
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']no it doesn't mean anything, sorry to burst your bubble. people will just have to wait longer. In the end it doesn't mean jack shit. :)[/quote]
:whistle2:s

His point is that if it wasn't copy protected, it would be all over by now. Which is what you just said. What aren't you comprehending?
 
[quote name='sixersballernum3']:whistle2:s

His point is that if it wasn't copy protected, it would be all over by now. Which is what you just said. What aren't you comprehending?[/QUOTE]


my point is that copy protection doesn't mean anything when it will eventually be cracked. If people that want to bootleg it will just have to wait an extra few days for it to be available online. In the end it will be cracked, hence why it doesn't matter. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. Just because it's not out early doesn't mean it won't be cracked.

again, in the end it doesn't mean anything that it's copy protected. crackage will always happen no matter what.

edit: maybe you misunderstood me in general. My main comment was geared towards how copy protection doesn't mean jack squat in the end and how everything is cracked with time.
 
And his point was that it does mean something because people would be playing it right now, this very moment. Several thousand people would not be on the internet right now wasting time and instead would be wasting time playing pokemon either illegally or semi-legally. Since there is copy protection, those several thousand people are instead not playing pokemon right now, this very second.
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']my point is that copy protection doesn't mean anything when it will eventually be cracked. If people that want to bootleg it will just have to wait an extra few days for it to be available online. In the end it will be cracked, hence why it doesn't matter. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. Just because it's not out early doesn't mean it won't be cracked.

again, in the end it doesn't mean anything that it's copy protected. crackage will always happen no matter what.

edit: maybe you misunderstood me in general. My main comment was geared towards how copy protection doesn't mean jack squat in the end and how everything is cracked with time.[/QUOTE]

Zewone said all of this basically. He was basically saying your not gonna get a leaked "Early" copy. He never said just because it has copy protection it wil never be cracked. Not until a Major Scene Group gets there hands on the games and cracks it. Which might be sometime sunday. By then it can be bought already.
 
Yeah. If there was no copy protection it'd be all over the internet right now. Since it is indeed copy protected, it isn't all over the internet right now until it can be cracked by the folks who know how to do it.

As such, copy protection does mean something. We understand it will be cracked, the issue is when it will be cracked.
 
[quote name='sixersballernum3']Yeah. If there was no copy protection it'd be all over the internet right now. Since it is indeed copy protected, it isn't all over the internet right now until it can be cracked by the folks who know how to do it.

As such, copy protection does mean something. We understand it will be cracked, the issue is when it will be cracked.[/QUOTE]

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Hopefully he understands it this time. :lol:
 
the whole point of copy protection is to prevent it from being ripped AT ALL. not to delay it being ripped. Companies don't implement copy protection just to delay it for people that want it illegally, they implement it to prevent illegal copies from being distributed at all. Hence why it doesn't matter if it has it or not since it will be cracked nonetheless.
 
Okay, but zew's point was that copy protection matters since it is delaying people obtaining the game. If you knew that, why did you argue with him?

Also, it can't be said in many more ways why copy protection does, if not substantially, matter in this case.
 
[quote name='sixersballernum3']Okay, but zew's point was that copy protection matters since it is delaying people obtaining the game. If you knew that, why did you argue with him?

Also, it can't be said in many more ways why copy protection does, if not substantially, matter in this case.[/QUOTE]

Wait Wait Wait. Copy Protection Never matters since maybe not today or tomorrow or the next day. But it will be ripped eventually :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I just don't see why Ashes doesn't get what we are spitting out here.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']Copy Protection Never matters since maybe not today or tomorrow or the next day. But it will be ripped eventually [/QUOTE]


exactly, thanks for proving my point :)
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']exactly, thanks for proving my point :)[/quote]

That's a terrible point. From the perspective of someone who wants to play the game now and cannot due to copy protection stoppnig it from being cracked until it is mass released, it does indeed matter. I don't understand what of this isn't making sense to you.
 
When someone elses sarcasm about your point, proves your point, you had a terrible point.

So hey, how about those pokeemans guys. Only a couple days left.
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']exactly, thanks for proving my point :)[/QUOTE]

Your basically telling us the sky is blue and we are agreeing with you but then you just keep on saying the sky is blue and we keep agreeing. ( Ok Terrible Comparison ) :)

This was not the point Zewone was tring to get across. He just said there most likely won't be a Leaked copy before the game gets released. Then you chime and say yes there will be a leaked copy. We Reply back Sure ther will but it has Copy Protection so it might take a little longer for it to be Pitrated. Then you say "THERE WILL BE A LEAKED COPY!!!" We agree again and Say again it might take a couple of days. Then you say " THERE WILL BE A LEAKED COPY eventually....." You see where this is going? No Where :)
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']the whole point of copy protection is to prevent it from being ripped AT ALL. not to delay it being ripped. Companies don't implement copy protection just to delay it for people that want it illegally, they implement it to prevent illegal copies from being distributed at all. Hence why it doesn't matter if it has it or not since it will be cracked nonetheless.[/QUOTE]

Not necessarily true because its up to the developer on what they mean that their program is "secure" and what this security is doing to the code. The copy right protection could have served its purpose by delaying the ripping until the item is already out in public. To reiterate, not all protection means "to be totally protected" because then the cost would be higher than the actual benefit.
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']my point is that copy protection doesn't mean anything when it will eventually be cracked. If people that want to bootleg it will just have to wait an extra few days for it to be available online. In the end it will be cracked, hence why it doesn't matter. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. Just because it's not out early doesn't mean it won't be cracked.

again, in the end it doesn't mean anything that it's copy protected. crackage will always happen no matter what.

edit: maybe you misunderstood me in general. My main comment was geared towards how copy protection doesn't mean jack squat in the end and how everything is cracked with time.[/quote]

"if you can build it, then you can break it"
 
[quote name='sixersballernum3']That's a terrible point. From the perspective of someone who wants to play the game now and cannot due to copy protection stoppnig it from being cracked until it is mass released, it does indeed matter. I don't understand what of this isn't making sense to you.[/QUOTE]


YOU'RE the one not making sense.
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']YOU'RE the one not making sense.[/quote]

Instead of yelling that at me, do tell me your reasoning behind it.

If it's the same argument you've had all day, however, don't bother. I've heard enough of it to know you just don't understand.
 
[quote name='Quintessence']Me too! :applause:[/quote]awesome :) staying the heck outta this argument though, i have a friend who brags about getting games for "free", pisses me right off since its the exact same as stealing
 
[quote name='maigoyume']awesome :) staying the heck outta this argument though, i have a friend who brags about getting games for "free", pisses me right off since its the exact same as stealing[/quote]
True that. I say that if you really like a game then they deserve your money. If it is only OK then wait for a price drop, buy it used, or rent it.

It is getting so close now for release!!! :bouncy:
 
[quote name='Quintessence']True that. I say that if you really like a game then they deserve your money. If it is only OK then wait for a price drop, but it used, or rent it.

It is getting so close now for release!!! :bouncy:[/quote]well they deserve it either way IMO, they did work hard on the game after all :) if its a AAA title like Zelda or Pokemon I'll buy it full price, others i'll wait for a price drop like you said :)
 
If you guys live near a Hastings ( www.gohastings.com ) check there. I went tonight and they received the preordered/special ordered copies and were selling them if those people came to get them. There weren't any sitting on the shelf.
 
[quote name='FallMoon']12 year olds a go-go.[/QUOTE]


nice, once you're defeated in an intelligent argument you start to accuse people, way to go!
 
[quote name='sixersballernum3']Instead of yelling that at me, do tell me your reasoning behind it.

If it's the same argument you've had all day, however, don't bother. I've heard enough of it to know you just don't understand.[/QUOTE]


no i will bother, you might want to go back and read my posts, thanks :)
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']nice, once you're defeated in an intelligent argument you start to accuse people, way to go![/QUOTE]

How about you stop spamming this thread with your stupidity? They are correct, you're acting like a baby spewing out the same shit over and over. Seriously, NOBODY CARES about cracks/roms. YOU WIN AT THE INTERNET, happy now?

Anyways......does anyone live in South Carolina? Someone got their copy early already. http://www.destructoid.com/destructoid-forum-member-snags-pok-mon-pearl-early-31098.phtml
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']nice, once you're defeated in an intelligent argument you start to accuse people, way to go![/quote]

I didn't even argue with you. There was no point. Also, what's with the word "defeated"? It's not like we're in some organized fight or debate.
 
[quote name='maigoyume']you require the first badge in order to gain access to the trading station, besides its not exploiting anything, nintendo had this in mind when they made the game, which is why they made people go through the first gym before being able to trade[/QUOTE]
So the fact you need the first badge makes this sound like it would take even longer to start the game over 6 times. At least breeding them later on, you can do other, more productive things while waiting for the eggs to hatch. But I guess by restarting 6 times you do get the unfair advantage of having 3 different strong types :roll:
 
[quote name='pete5883']So the fact you need the first badge makes this sound like it would take even longer to start the game over 6 times. At least breeding them later on, you can do other, more productive things while waiting for the eggs to hatch. But I guess by restarting 6 times you do get the unfair advantage of having 3 different strong types :roll:[/QUOTE]


You can't breed them if you don't have them to begin with. Also i'm pretty sure the first badge only applies to the online trading and not the local trading.
 
I haven't played one of these games since Pokemon Red (although i did play the shit out of that one) and I'm not about to start again.
 
I haven't done too much reading on these games yet...but do they still make it that you can only get one of the three starting pokemon? Or can you cath them later on?

Because I hated restarting another game like more times just to trade over the other starting pokemon.
 
[quote name='gokou36']You can't breed them if you don't have them to begin with. Also i'm pretty sure the first badge only applies to the online trading and not the local trading.[/quote]from what i hear, it grants you access to the global trading center, which allows you to trade at all
 
My one friends bought a DSL just for this game...yea, us crazy college kids will be collecting our pokemans for quite some time now.

"MY POKEMANS! LET ME SHOW YOU THEM!"
 
[quote name='FallMoon']Ugh, why is everyone saying "pokemans"? It's not funny.[/quote]

:roll:

You really should get off that high horse of yours.
 
[quote name='FallMoon']Ugh, why is everyone saying "pokemans"? It's not funny.[/quote]
lol i think it is. it reminds of these 8 year-olds i knew several years ago (at a summer camp), all huddled around one GBC, yelling "Use Thunderbolt!" and telling each other about their own pokemans. that's the image I get. :lol:
 
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