Dragon Age: Origins - Gen. Discussion & Info

Cool. I'll do that one next, then, and get some more of the map unlocked. It bugs me when the quests asking you to go to multiple locations (deliver letters, etc.) don't update to tell you which ones you've visited vs. which ones you still need to travel to.

Thank goodness for the Wiki.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Yup, Sten's in Lothering. If you're locked out of the town now, it's too late to get him.

Speaking of... I've played through the game twice, and it's still not clear to me what actually happened in Lothering. Is there a cutscene that shows it getting attacked/overrun or whatever, that I may have accidentally skipped through? I feel like I missed something tha should be there.[/QUOTE]

I was wondering the same thing. I'm in the middle of playing for the first time (and I've made some terrible decisions, but live and learn), but Lothering locked out on me the other day as well. Granted I think I had everything done there, but I didn't really see anything concerning it either, so maybe it just kind of happens?
 
Sten's cell is outside of town right where you start doing some of the mini quests in Lothering (you don't have to go back to the main map to find it.) Once you leave the town after doing what's required, everyone and everything left is destroyed by the Darkspawn and you either have to reload a previous save to go back or restart if you want to do something you missed there.
 
So can anyone who's played the latest DLC give an estimate of how long it takes to finish, including getting all the Achievements? I've already got it downloaded, just have to find the time to play it.
 
[quote name='bvharris']So can anyone who's played the latest DLC give an estimate of how long it takes to finish, including getting all the Achievements? I've already got it downloaded, just have to find the time to play it.[/QUOTE]

It's about 12-15 hours. To get all the achievements you need to split your saves. There's an obvious part after you collect all your party members and have to make a big decision about where to go right before the final battle sequences. You get an achievement from each of them, but you cannot do both on a single save.
 
I missed out on a few chivos where you have a make a choice between one group or another. Oh well. Maybe I'll choose differently if I play it again. Not sure how likely that will be, though.
 
[quote name='wakawakawa']It's about 12-15 hours. To get all the achievements you need to split your saves. There's an obvious part after you collect all your party members and have to make a big decision about where to go right before the final battle sequences. You get an achievement from each of them, but you cannot do both on a single save.[/QUOTE]

I'm not talking about Awakening, I mean the newer DLC where you play as the darkspawn.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I'm not talking about Awakening, I mean the newer DLC where you play as the darkspawn.[/QUOTE]
Takes about an hour if you know what to do in advance to get the achievements. Two of them are missable.

I didn't have any trouble unlocking all three the first time through, but other people have had them glitch out (big surprise) and not be able to unlock.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Takes about an hour if you know what to do in advance to get the achievements. Two of them are missable.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Maybe I'll pop it in tonight, I've been lazy about getting to it, which is surprising since I have all the other achievements from the main game and DLC.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Thanks. Maybe I'll pop it in tonight, I've been lazy about getting to it, which is surprising since I have all the other achievements from the main game and DLC.[/QUOTE]
Dragon Age was a fun one. I did two full playthroughs to get the decision achievements rather than do any save and reload tricks. The only one that was a bitch to get was Blight-Queller.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Dragon Age was a fun one. I did two full playthroughs to get the decision achievements rather than do any save and reload tricks. The only one that was a bitch to get was Blight-Queller.[/QUOTE]

I played it through three full times in order to get the Level 20 achievements. :D (Yeah, you could stop after getting the third one to level 20, but at that point why not finish it a 3rd time?) Definitely my favorite game of last year.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I played it through three full times in order to get the Level 20 achievements. :D (Yeah, you could stop after getting the third one to level 20, but at that point why not finish it a 3rd time?) Definitely my favorite game of last year.[/QUOTE]
Ha, I must admit I used Awakening to get my Level 20 Mage cheevo, not too bad considering you start out at 18.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Ha, I must admit I used Awakening to get my Level 20 Mage cheevo, not too bad considering you start out at 18.[/QUOTE]

No, not at all. Had I known that would be an option I probably would have waited as well. :D
 
[quote name='shieryda']I missed out on a few chivos where you have a make a choice between one group or another. Oh well. Maybe I'll choose differently if I play it again. Not sure how likely that will be, though.[/QUOTE]

Most of the other achievements can only be gotten from a second play through,.. Unless you utilize multiple saves.To me its, Sort of the reason why someone would bother to go back and play it all the way through a second time is to see the different outcomes.

I'll give you an example-
The Anvil of the void.
Whether or not you decide to destroy or preserve the anvil you still have to go through all that rigmarole and either kill that Paragon Woman(cant remember her name) or Kill that Golem who created the anvil. Then dependent upon which path you chose you'll either have an army of Golems at your disposal when you fight the Archdemon or an Army of Dwarves

Early on I did one multiple save on getting the chivo's for Urn of Sacred Ashes. When I mixed the Blood with the Ashes well, I wont even tell you what happens immediately. But I never went all the way through with it to find out what other repercussions that action had. I just reloaded my previous save.

Hell, Ive owned it since it came out and still haven't done all the multiple ending achievements. I dont want to even attempt the other Origins I haven't done like magi or the Dwarves until I'm at a place where I'm ready to run the whole shebang through to the finish
 
I'll tell you what sucks:
Going for Annulment Invoker and The Ultimate Sacrifice in the same playthrough, and consequently having to play the whole final section with no mages left in the party.
 
^Thats another one I never tried.
I looked it up online and I guess you end up with Templars rather than mages?? I cant even remember where or when you had the option to persuade or intimidate the Templar at the circle tower into allowing all the Mages to be killed. Do you even go in the Circle tower to fight that demon guy then? You know what, dont even tell me. I'll save that one for myself ;)
 
[quote name='EdRyder']Most of the other achievements can only be gotten from a second play through,.. Unless you utilize multiple saves.To me its, Sort of the reason why someone would bother to go back and play it all the way through a second time is to see the different outcomes.

I'll give you an example-
The Anvil of the void.
Whether or not you decide to destroy or preserve the anvil you still have to go through all that rigmarole and either kill that Paragon Woman(cant remember her name) or Kill that Golem who created the anvil. Then dependent upon which path you chose you'll either have an army of Golems at your disposal when you fight the Archdemon or an Army of Dwarves

Early on I did one multiple save on getting the chivo's for Urn of Sacred Ashes. When I mixed the Blood with the Ashes well, I wont even tell you what happens immediately. But I never went all the way through with it to find out what other repercussions that action had. I just reloaded my previous save.

Hell, Ive owned it since it came out and still haven't done all the multiple ending achievements. I dont want to even attempt the other Origins I haven't done like magi or the Dwarves until I'm at a place where I'm ready to run the whole shebang through to the finish[/QUOTE]

I chose to take a pinch of the ashes and prevent that dude from allowing it to become a tourist attraction. I also opted to destroy the anvil, so perhaps I will play through again and see what the different outcomes are.

If I do replay, I'll probably choose a mage character. There are some pretty cool spells for mages.
 
[quote name='shieryda']
If I do replay, I'll probably choose a mage character. There are some pretty cool spells for mages.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention you could make an Arcane Warrior, which to my mind is the best build in the game.
 
I agree that Mage is probably the strongest class in the game, perhaps even overpowered. God knows that Morrigan and Wynne are the two most valuable support characters bar none. Personally though, I find I prefer playing as a melee fighter and getting up close and personal with the enemies rather than hurling spells from a distance, so I did my two full playthroughs as a Warrior and Rogue.
 
This is a tough game to have right now. So many options as far as gameplay and play-throughs, but so many other great games out or coming out this summer/fall. I might need to take a break from it once Crackdown and Fallout: New Vegas come out. Using Goozex is nice, though, because I don't have to run right out and buy everything at launch.

I think my days of online multiplayer are coming to an end with all these great single-player games coming out.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']I agree that Mage is probably the strongest class in the game, perhaps even overpowered. God knows that Morrigan and Wynne are the two most valuable support characters bar none. Personally though, I find I prefer playing as a melee fighter and getting up close and personal with the enemies rather than hurling spells from a distance, so I did my two full playthroughs as a Warrior and Rogue.[/QUOTE]

Thus the Arcane Warrior. :D

Best of both worlds.
 
I am still playing this game and i love it.
Now i am playing 65 hours so far. Not sure if i am really slow or not. I tried to get every sidequest i can get, but i still missed some.
One thing i wonder is this. Once you start the last fight, do the previous quest open up again or thats it.
I might have to reload an older save, but i still need some skills (survival,herbal) to finish some quests.
I will also get the other dlc's to advance somewhat more in my levels.
 
[quote name='yester']
One thing i wonder is this. Once you start the last fight, do the previous quest open up again or thats it.
[/QUOTE]

That's it. The game will tell you when you're passing the point of no return, so that is a good place to save.
 
[quote name='bvharris']That's it. The game will tell you when you're passing the point of no return, so that is a good place to save.[/QUOTE]

I am glad i saved a lot. Before i finish i start my DLC's now.
 
[quote name='yester']I am glad i saved a lot. Before i finish i start my DLC's now.[/QUOTE]

I think you can still play the DLCs after the endgame, but someone would have to confirm, it's been a while since I finished them.
 
So I'm getting this game in a trade, sometime next week...

Anyway, I hear the 360 version has a bunch of glitches, is this true? If so, what's most notable or game-breaking? Or is it really just a case of saving often?
 
[quote name='yester']I am still playing this game and i love it.
Now i am playing 65 hours so far. Not sure if i am really slow or not. I tried to get every sidequest i can get, but i still missed some.
One thing i wonder is this. Once you start the last fight, do the previous quest open up again or thats it.
I might have to reload an older save, but i still need some skills (survival,herbal) to finish some quests.
I will also get the other dlc's to advance somewhat more in my levels.[/QUOTE]

You aren't really slow. I was at 86 hours when I finished.
 
[quote name='Rhett']So I'm getting this game in a trade, sometime next week...

Anyway, I hear the 360 version has a bunch of glitches, is this true? If so, what's most notable or game-breaking? Or is it really just a case of saving often?[/QUOTE]

Nothing game-breaking. These so called glitches are mostly bs. Being able to romance both Morrigan and Leliana for example isnt a glitch.
At some point Morrigan will ask you to chose between the two of 'em.
There was a corrupted save glitch.(Never happened to me)
I guess it involves trying to loot the store clerks in-game(the same cheat as Mass Effect where you sell/buy, sell/buy and make money like that) Do it enough times and your save can become corrupted
 
[quote name='Rhett']Anyway, I hear the 360 version has a bunch of glitches, is this true? If so, what's most notable or game-breaking? Or is it really just a case of saving often?[/QUOTE]I know of one glitch that people on the bioware forums went into rage mode about a while back. If you're the type of person that really cares about the romance portion of the game, then there is an ending glitch worth noting concerning Morrigan (if you choose her). It also has adverse effects which tie in together with the ending for the Awakening expansion pack and most likely future sequels as well.

The Awakening epilogue will not recognize romance with Morrigan if you speak to her at the Final Battle in Origins, meaning you can't get a Morrigan epilogue in Awakening if you get the Ring epilogue in Origins. (It seems that this can be fixed if you hold off giving Morrigan the mirror gift until after loading the post epilogue save, which reactivates romance again.)

If you're not romancing Morrigan, then disregard this entire post.
 
i have no idea what keeps coming out for this game, im waiting for a "compilation disc" makes me ooz with anticipation that ones made
 
[quote name='Rhett']So I'm getting this game in a trade, sometime next week...

Anyway, I hear the 360 version has a bunch of glitches, is this true? If so, what's most notable or game-breaking? Or is it really just a case of saving often?[/QUOTE]
It's a WRPG. Which means every version has a bunch of glitches.
 
[quote name='yester']I am still playing this game and i love it.
Now i am playing 65 hours so far. Not sure if i am really slow or not. I tried to get every sidequest i can get, but i still missed some.
One thing i wonder is this. Once you start the last fight, do the previous quest open up again or thats it.
I might have to reload an older save, but i still need some skills (survival,herbal) to finish some quests.
I will also get the other dlc's to advance somewhat more in my levels.[/QUOTE]

You aren't slow. Took me 160 hours to platinum it, and another 25 to finish Awakenings + all the DLC.
 
There are a few game-breaking problems that I'm aware of on 360:

1. Selling too many items to a single merchant (I think the number is around 500) will corrupt your saves.

2. Having too many save files (more than 100?) will corrupt your saves.

3.
Attempting to double cross Bhelen and Harrowmont by allying with both sides can cause a state where you are unable to continue the plot.

4.
In the section where the other party members have to break your main character out of jail, the reunite event can fail to trigger leaving you unable to continue the story.
This one happened to me and I was able to get it to trigger by closing and opening the jail door again, but I don't know if that always works.

5. In Awakening,
during the events where you recruit Velanna, talking to certain characters in the wrong order can cause a state where you're unable to continue the plot.

They're great games, but there's no denying that the console versions are pretty seriously broken.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']There are a few game-breaking problems that I'm aware of on 360:

1. Selling too many items to a single merchant (I think the number is around 500) will corrupt your saves.

2. Having too many save files (more than 100?) will corrupt your saves.

3.
Attempting to double cross Bhelen and Harrowmont by allying with both sides can cause a state where you are unable to continue the plot.

4.
In the section where the other party members have to break your main character out of jail, the reunite event can fail to trigger leaving you unable to continue the story.
This one happened to me and I was able to get it to trigger by closing and opening the jail door again, but I don't know if that always works.

5. In Awakening,
during the events where you recruit Velanna, talking to certain characters in the wrong order can cause a state where you're unable to continue the plot.

They're great games, but there's no denying that the console versions are pretty seriously broken.[/QUOTE]

That certainly is broken... Selling too many items, and having too many saves? Wut? Bah.

I know PC has at least one more patch than consoles. Wouldn't be surprised if it had several, since devs have to jump through hoops to get patches onto consoles.

Well, I'll hope for the best (and be poor, with so few saves the game would think I was challenging myself!), lmao.

Thanks!
 
Suppose I should probably delete some save files on my hd, then. I had to go in a get rid of a bunch of Fallout and Oblivion, as well.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']You aren't really slow. I was at 86 hours when I finished.[/QUOTE]

Well, thats assuring. :)
I played through both DLC's except Awakening. Short on money :(
The sad part was that i had no quest left and so some i simply could not solve.
Also, i haven't even gotten a specializing skill so far. I looked for healer, but the book were no where to be found. I had two chances to be bloodmage, but i did not want to do that.
So far, i still like the game and its fun to play. One of the best RPG's on the xbox in my opinion. I wished they were more like that.

In case someone cares for sharing your character, here is mine.
my character
 
[quote name='Ma12kez']I know of one glitch that people on the bioware forums went into rage mode about a while back. If you're the type of person that really cares about the romance portion of the game, then there is an ending glitch worth noting concerning Morrigan (if you choose her). It also has adverse effects which tie in together with the ending for the Awakening expansion pack and most likely future sequels as well.

The Awakening epilogue will not recognize romance with Morrigan if you speak to her at the Final Battle in Origins, meaning you can't get a Morrigan epilogue in Awakening if you get the Ring epilogue in Origins. (It seems that this can be fixed if you hold off giving Morrigan the mirror gift until after loading the post epilogue save, which reactivates romance again.)

If you're not romancing Morrigan, then disregard this entire post.[/QUOTE]

:)

I romance with Leliana. Its a girl on girl kinda thing.
 
Just finished the game after 72 hours. puhh..
You can not play again with you character ala Mass effect, or? This is sad, i thought i can play now on hard with my leveled character :)

Btw. Awakening. It seems kinda expensive for an DLC. Is it that good to spend around $40.
 
[quote name='yester']Just finished the game after 72 hours. puhh..
You can not play again with you character ala Mass effect, or? This is sad, i thought i can play now on hard with my leveled character :)

Btw. Awakening. It seems kinda expensive for an DLC. Is it that good to spend around $40.[/QUOTE]

You can use your leveled character in Awakening. :D

I thought it was worth it. You should be able to find a disc-based copy for cheaper than $40 at this point.
 
I was surprised that an DLC can be that expensive really.
My first search was Amazon and it was used not that much cheaper. Still around $36.
Of course i will get it. I want to advance more. I love my character. lol
 
[quote name='bvharris']It's not really DLC, it's much more substantial. Think of it as a full PC-style expansion. 15-20 hours at least.[/QUOTE]

I am convinced now. No deal anywhere for it sadly so i will get it from amazon.

I just wished you could replay with your character again like in ME1. That would be so nice.
 
Awakening was shorter, but IMO the environment designs were way better and the characters were more fun than in the main game. No romances though. :(
 
Ooooh. I'm excited for that one.

Features:

  • Explore Leliana's dangerous past and why she joined the Chantry
  • Fully voiced cinematic experience brings the characters to life
  • Unlock a unique reward that transfers into your Awakening and Origins campaign
Click to expand...

I did end up playing through the Darkspawn Chronicles, it was pretty "meh". Restored the old perfect gamerscore on DA:O though.
 
[quote name='pete5883']Now that, I will buy. As long as its longer than an hour.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't count on it, none of the smaller DLC pieces has been much longer than that.
 
Got the game today. Thoroughly enjoying it -- even moreso than Mass Effect (either one!). Haven't encountered a single glitch, and I was playing for roughly 9 hours straight.

Definitely gonna be replaying this one.

A couple questions though...

Is any of the DLC worth it? I'm considering Warden's Keep, but the rest look short and overpriced. I will not be getting Awakening just because of all of the issues I've heard about, and it sounds too short for what it's priced at.

And how random is the loot in each playthrough? I understand certain characters may drop specific items that are specific to them, but can this be randomized at all? Do they have specific loot tables, or is it just all of the random loot piles/chests/etc?

I've also been molested by Revenants. Boy, they took me by surprise...twice. Finally took one down, but it killed my tank and made my rogue tank. -.- Running Rogue (Main), Rogue, Tank, Mage-Support, and it works fairly well. Finally got the Mage of the party very well suited with tactics, which helps a lot.

I also got a party member to join me, and made a huge mistake in thinking she was a Mage, when she was a Rogue... Durr. Turns out the character I thought she was, comes a little later in the game.
Pretty ironic that Leliana has no issue stealing from chests in peoples' rooms or homes... :lol:
 
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