Fall 2008 Nintendo Press Conference- MEGATONS DROPPED! DSi, Punch-out!!, Sin & Pun. 2

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/liveblog-ninten.html

NoA's turn

9:11: I'm sure a couple of you have read the news from Tokyo last night, Kaigler says. Yes. She introduces Reggie Fils-Aime to talk to us about that.
9:12: While today's show is mostly about games, Fils-Aime says, Nintendo unveiled the DSi last night. He holds one up. He's talking about the new features: It has built-in flash memory, and you can save downloadable games to that flash drive. A new service called Nintendo DSi Shop. Among the first games available on the Nintendo DSi Shop service will be redesigned versions of the two Brain Age games. Users will be able to experience these games anywhere, anytime, moments a day, every day. Will sit alongside all the features on the DSi menu, no cartridges necessary.
9:14: There are plenty of other competitors in a "red ocean" trying to make the best portable cameras and music players. Nintendo is just trying to make the DS the most fun for the most people possible.
9:15: The Nintendo DSi has not one but two different cameras. How you use these two cameras creates the difference. One will face forward from the hardware, the other points back at the user. A different range of photo functionality. Combined with onboard, real-time imaging software. Combine pictures. Distort faces. Graffiti.
9:16: The DSi can also serve as your music player -- but again, with differences. The DSi will use the AAC format, so you can move songs from computer to SD card. The DSi has built in software that allows the user to control pitch, speed of AAC files. You can put in an audio filter -- "You may have a piece of music where you want to listen to only the vocals, not the instrumentals." You can fast-forward through a podcast. Play different features sped up or slowed down. Record your voice in the microphone and change the playback speed/pitch of that. All of these options are available on DSi right out of the box.
9:18: Wanted to manage the weight and durability of the system while making it smaller. Hence, no Game Boy Advance game slot. (Still kind of sad.) This new addition to the DS family, says Fils-Aime, should be looked at as retaining great features and adding new functionality to make it a whole lot better.
9:19: As far as 2008 is concerned, the DSi story is strictly Japan-related. We will not see the product in North America until "well into" 2009, because there's still "huge demand"
9:20: Reggie says that the DS sold more hardware in August than had ever been sold in that calendar month. You're welcome, Reggie!
9:21: Instead of dealing with the current hassles of Wii storage, you'll be able to download Wii software from the shopping channel to your SD card, and the process of transferring that software will become "dramatically easier."
9:22: Talking about holiday retail qualities for DS and Wii. "More Nintendo DS units into retail for Oct/Nov/Dec quarter than last year -- dramatically more." Also more Wii systems.
9:23: Will this be enough to meet demand? "Talk to me in January," Fils-Aime says. They are working hard to get to "the crossover" between supply and demand. They are in "uncharted territory" as far as how much hardware they're moving.
9:24: Cammie Dunaway takes the stage. "If I've learned anything in the past 11 months, it's that pleasing you guys takes showing you great games," she says while looking directly at me and Matt Cassamassina.
9:25: PUNCH OUT! CAMMIE SHOWS PUNCH-OUT. CAMMIE REDEEMED FOREVER. Available 1st half 2009 in the U.S. Punch out video reel. Oh my god, the music. The music. So awesome.
 
[quote name='EXStrike']http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/liveblog-ninten.html

9:19: As far as 2008 is concerned, the DSi story is strictly Japan-related. We will not see the product in North America until "well into" 2009, because there's still "huge demand"
9:20: Reggie says that the DS sold more hardware in August than had ever been sold in that calendar month. You're welcome, Reggie!
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Fair enough. I guess expect to see a June/July release not unlike the DS lite?

[quote name='EXStrike']9:21: Instead of dealing with the current hassles of Wii storage, you'll be able to download Wii software from the shopping channel to your SD card, and the process of transferring that software will become "dramatically easier."[/quote]


Ugh. Someone needs to clarify exactly what this means. Stop bullshitting us Nintendo.

[quote name='EXStrike']9:24: Cammie Dunaway takes the stage. "If I've learned anything in the past 11 months, it's that pleasing you guys takes showing you great games," she says while looking directly at me and Matt Cassamassina.[/QUOTE]


D'oh?
 
[quote name='EXStrike']http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/liveblog-ninten.html
9:19: As far as 2008 is concerned, the DSi story is strictly Japan-related. We will not see the product in North America until "well into" 2009, because there's still "huge demand"
9:20: Reggie says that the DS sold more hardware in August than had ever been sold in that calendar month. You're welcome, Reggie!
9:21: Instead of dealing with the current hassles of Wii storage, you'll be able to download Wii software from the shopping channel to your SD card, and the process of transferring that software will become "dramatically easier."
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DS is selling well so we won't get the bigger better one till we stop buying the older one?

And they still didn't clarify whether you're able to play directly off of the SD card or not, as it is, this sounds like they're just making it faster. If they were to take the Emulators out of all of the games that we buy on there, it'll be a much smaller strain on the internal memory.
 
9:51: SIN AND PUNISHMENT 2. Hits keep on coming. Confirmed for 2009 in North America. "After we saw how many people downloaded it on Virtual Console, we got the message that North America wants Sin and Punishment as well." "You're not going to have to import it," she says. Video time!


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I should probably download Sin & Punishment...

[quote name='Wired']9:53: Rhythm Heaven, first half 2009. YEEEEAAAAAH. "This game is pretty darn hard, and you can't put it down." "We think this has big potential in North America."

9:54: Dunaway about to show four "hard-edge" games. First is Age of Empires Mythologies, due November 2008. Second is Tecmo Bowl, same release month. Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia, available October 21. Chrono Trigger, holiday 2008. "Thanksgiving week."

9:55: Last live demo of the day. Fire Emblem DS. 1st half 2009. It's called "Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon." Ha ha, get it? It's "DS" backwards.[/quote]

=O

My poor, poor wallet.

Nintendo likes my money confirmed.
 
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[quote name='EXStrike']9:51: SIN AND PUNISHMENT 2. Hits keep on coming. Confirmed for 2009 in North America. "After we saw how many people downloaded it on Virtual Console, we got the message that North America wants Sin and Punishment as well." "You're not going to have to import it," she says. Video time![/QUOTE]


Earthbound on VC > Mother 3 in US?
Please?
 
10:11: CLUB NINTENDO IS COMING TO NORTH AMERICA.

10:12: North American Nintendo fans have been "lusting after" Club Nintendo giveaways for a long time, she says. Yes. Will debut in America by the end of the year. Nice.
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:hot: HOLY SHIT ON A STICK.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Was there ever any doubt?[/quote]

Not since it was announced, but that certainly doesn't make me any less excited :D

EDIT: Club Nintendo sounds awesome, but I wonder how points or whatever will be set up? Through registered games?
 
yes the big question is, do the already registered games count or will it be some new date of registration.. in the past the previously registered games counted toward the totals needed for things here... but we didnt have the true club nintendo either...
 
[quote name='Snake2715']yes the big question is, do the already registered games count or will it be some new date of registration.. in the past the previously registered games counted toward the totals needed for things here... but we didnt have the true club nintendo either...[/quote]

Yes that was the same question I have as well!
 
[quote name='Snake2715']yes the big question is, do the already registered games count or will it be some new date of registration.. in the past the previously registered games counted toward the totals needed for things here... but we didnt have the true club nintendo either...[/quote]

It better.
 
So they waited until after all of their big Wii releases to start up Club Nintendo over here? :whistle2:(

Edit: I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but The Conduit's being published by Nintendo now.
 
Trace Memory Wii is a good announcement, and I'm sure I'll get it.... but seriously, Trace Memory over Hotel Dusk? It's not like the story from either one really leaves the door open for an obvious sequal after all, and a Wii Hotel Dusk would've been amazing. Maybe if Trace Memory Wii sells well enough they'll do it.

As for the rest of the stuff, Sin & Punishment 2, Endless Ocean 2, Punch-Out Wii, Mario & Luigi 3, and WarioWare are all great announcements. Why couldn't they have just shown some of this stuff at E3? Whatever, they've shown it now, and now I actually have stuff to look forward to again from Nintendo.
 
Wait. Where is this Club Nintendo news?! What are they offering us?!
This whole potential storage solution is making me wet!!

If I have to re-download all the games...that would actually be OK with me!!
FINALLY!

And these game announcements are pretty hot! Sin & Punishment 2, though, :drool:
 
*wakes up*

Oh. Club Nintendo. That alone basically makes my day. Nice to see sales of S&P got to Nintendo's collective thick skull.

However, now the storage solution....doesn't seem like a storage solution at all. It sounds like they are saying "it'll now be easier to clean the fridge." This make Strell angry, want cry, want kill you all.
 
I know! I'm waiting to hear how this will turn out. I mean, what's the point of downloading a game but DL'ing it directly to the storage card where you can't play it? :whistle2:k

Me thinks we will actually be surprised by this.
 
Hmmm. A Wii Speak channel, but it basically sounds like it is self-contained.

I wish there was a way to run that + something else. Then we really COULD have chatting during Brawl...even though that would require setting it all up before you fought.

It's just that now I see these 'Ware games that I hesitate because I imagine a version will show up with Speak capabilities. Tetris Party is a good example.
 
[quote name='pygmy carnotaur']Trace Memory Wii is a good announcement, and I'm sure I'll get it.... but seriously, Trace Memory over Hotel Dusk? It's not like the story from either one really leaves the door open for an obvious sequal after all, and a Wii Hotel Dusk would've been amazing. Maybe if Trace Memory Wii sells well enough they'll do it.

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I agree, a Hotel Dusk Wii would of been better then Trace Memory, but I'm still looking forward to Trace Memory 2, the first game had great atmosphere and hopefully the developers will take what they learned from Hotel Dusk and apply it to TM2.
 
Nintendo better count all those games I have been registering for years and getting nothing for towards Club Nintendo. It would be a really crappy way to treat loyal customers if they didn't.
 
[quote name='dmunkee']
EDIT: Club Nintendo sounds awesome, but I wonder how points or whatever will be set up? Through registered games?[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Snake2715']yes the big question is, do the already registered games count or will it be some new date of registration.. in the past the previously registered games counted toward the totals needed for things here... but we didnt have the true club nintendo either...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, when this goes live I expect to see a huge amount of "points" magically appear on my My Nintendo account due to the 60 or 70 games I have registered there ;). If it is only for new stuff, well, they can screw themselves. Just to be safe, though, I'll hold off on registering a few games I never got around to doing until more details emerge.
 
Ok, let's get the disappointment out of the way now.

This is Nintendo we're talking about. Further, it is Nintendo of America, specifically.

These are the same people who - when asked about Club Nintendo relentlessly for the last several years - responded with "Oh, America is too big for us to adequately do the Club." As stupid as that sounded, it was made all the more stupid based on the fact that - recently - it's been suggested that the UK market is going to surpass the American one, even though the Club exists there already.

Now, given that astounding level of incompetence on the issue, do you guys really expect them to make this retroactive? Hell, I'm betting it's not even a timing thing - it'll be a product thing. So, for example, Wii Music MIGHT be included, but Wii Play/Mario Kart/Brawl/etc won't be.

Like I said, get the disappointment out of the way now. It'll make you feel better. Me? I'm already nailed toothpicks into my balls. The pain is slowly subsiding.
 
I'm not jumping for joy for the Club Nintendo announcement just yet. Wasn't Europe's version completely nerfed? Yay! I can now download official Mario wallpaper!!! Unless they start showing prizes I'm skeptical. I have quite a few unregistered games and a DS because it was so pointless. I really hope they get this right.

I was really curious as to what Cing and AlphaDream were up to after not hearing anything after E3. Glad to hear they're working on new projects.
 
Hmm. I'm assuming that my location isn't gonna be an impediment here. I could always just get the address of someone in North Dakota or some shit, but that would be damn annoying.
 
Are the re-released GCN games getting Wii support like Resident Evil 4 or are they literally re-releases on Wii discs? I might try Pikmin for $20 with Wii controls even though I played the crap out of it when it came out...
 
[quote name='io']Yeah, when this goes live I expect to see a huge amount of "points" magically appear on my My Nintendo account due to the 60 or 70 games I have registered there ;). If it is only for new stuff, well, they can screw themselves. Just to be safe, though, I'll hold off on registering a few games I never got around to doing until more details emerge.[/QUOTE]


All of a sudden, I'm glad the only "game" I have registered is Twilight Princess. I probably have 15 Nintendo games that I could register once its actually up and running. I imagine we'll hear details within the next couple of weeks or so considering that this is supposed to be ready by the holidays.

I have a suspicion that this will be somewhere between Europe/Japan Club Nintendo. We might get a few of the little goodies that Japan has, but also receiving the influx of non-rewards that Europe has as well. Even if it is as bad as Europe, I guess something is better than nothing, and it'll be nice to convert stars to Wii Nintendo points.

[quote name='javeryh']Are the re-released GCN games getting Wii support like Resident Evil 4 or are they literally re-releases on Wii discs? I might try Pikmin for $20 with Wii controls even though I played the crap out of it when it came out...[/QUOTE]


One would assume that this is the case, adding wide screen and Wii controls. Beyond that? Its anyone's guess.
 
Bah. I bet the crapton of games I have registered won't count for anything when Club Nintendo gets going over here. I (and a ton of others) will be pissed if that is the case.
 
[quote name='BlueLobstah']One would assume that this is the case, adding wide screen and Wii controls. Beyond that? Its anyone's guess.[/quote]

Looks good. It is a brilliant idea - the Gamecube is one of my favorite consoles of all time with so many great games that never got the recognition they deserved. If they bring the same games out for the bigger Wii audience with widescreen and wiimote support they are going to rake it in... even more than they are already raking it in. This would position them nicely for the WiiHD or whatever comes next since people will have actually played some of the key franchises. They are in a unique position too because it's not like you can release a PS2 game for the PS3 and get away with it since people expect more out of a PS3 game in the looks department...
 
DK Jungle Beat DEFINITELY deserves more recognition.

Pikmin and Metroid are perfectly suited for the control scheme and wide screen.

Mario Tennis screams "we're out of ideas for Mario Tennis Wii."

Ha ha, wouldn't it be funny if Miyamoto was referring to these remakes when he talked about Pikmin shortly after the E3 debacle?

...

Of course fucking not.
 
[quote name='Strell']
Ha ha, wouldn't it be funny if Miyamoto was referring to these remakes when he talked about Pikmin shortly after the E3 debacle?[/QUOTE]
As if there's any doubt he was fucking with us. Now he's flipping the media's tea tables...it's hilarious.

It'd be even funnier if we invited him to a tea party with actual tea tables and let him go apeshit. Biscuits and earl gray everywhere, mofos.

Also funny and just as awesome: announcing that you're working on Mother for the Wii when in fact it's Earthbound for the VC. I would be pissed right up until the moment they actually dumped EB on the VC.
 
Well, they went the reasonable route by enabling the SD card slot for something useful...

Of course the devil is in the details, because already the SD slot "works". Of course if your definition of works is annoy the hell out of you with teases of functionality.
 
So I'm looking for it, and being that I'm pretty much retarded I most likely missed it, but did they mention when this 'storage solution' would take place?..I hope it's universal and not just JPN.. :shock:

.....
Wait.

They mentioned this is for EVERYONE RIGHT? :shock: :wall: :pray:
 
[quote name='Strell']I'm thinking it'll be part of a firmware upgrade.

Which they said they won't enact until Spring 2009.

....

Yeah.[/QUOTE]

See that kind of detail.

Among others.
 
[quote name='Friend of Sonic']So am I going to have to stock up on 2 GB SD cards or what? Nintendo, your system has a USB port. Let us buy hard drives, damn it.[/quote]

Yeah, it would be nice if the SD solution was the "official" Nintendo solution while they quietly enable USB hardrives as well (like their initial stealth keyboard support).

Anything is better than what we have, provided that they allow us to run games from the SD card which I assume is the case.
 
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