FGT 14 wants to fight whoever wrote MVC3's netcode

[quote name='Arikado']I hate this game online. I drop shit all of the time from the slightest delay.[/QUOTE]

Yea, I know what you mean, you get used to the timing offline and then when you go online... ugh.

[quote name='kainzero']i've noticed slowdown today too on the 360.[/QUOTE]

It happens on that one too? What the fuck.

[quote name='kainzero']i haven't touched online. online fighting just doesn't seem fun anymore.[/QUOTE]

Consider yourself lucky.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']We need a PC version :whistle2:/

Maybe that would help the garbage online play.[/QUOTE]

Not if the game already has garbage netcode.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']Is it bad netcode, or PSN? I don't know :whistle2:/[/QUOTE]

I hear the same complaints from people who play on XBL, hell, just look a few posts up.
 
I have a hell of a time getting random matches on PSN, sometimes it takes 5-6 straight attempts to not get a "failed to join game session".
 
[quote name='Jesus_S_Preston']I have a hell of a time getting random matches on PSN, sometimes it takes 5-6 straight attempts to not get a "failed to join game session".[/QUOTE]

I have yet to have it work, but I only tried it 7 times.
 
Would have been better if they fucking let you choose from a list of people to play like in SSFIV ranked.

"Okay, I can't connect to this guy, let's try another." Would it really be that hard to let us choose who we want to play in ranked based on connection quality?
 
Can't really say I have run into any lag problems so far on the 360, shit seems to be running smooth on my end. I do agree with Dizzy though, not being able to pick who you play in ranked it dumb as shit, and I just got my 5 wins streak and haven't gone back to it, takes to damn long to find someone and I just like lobby more, bsing with friends while playing is better.

Though Heavy did say he couldn't join my lobby the other day for some reason so eh.

Once you get your 360 copy Dizzy hurry up and join us for some games.
 
[quote name='Jesus_S_Preston']I have a hell of a time getting random matches on PSN, sometimes it takes 5-6 straight attempts to not get a "failed to join game session".[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Chacrana']I have yet to have it work, but I only tried it 7 times.[/QUOTE]

On the 360 I have yet to be able to join a match via the find player match and find ranked match. I have to go through offline mode and turn on the joins. When I do that I get a match right away :bomb:
 
I always get into ranked matches.

jus go to Arcade mode and set Fight Request on.

it allows u to practice while waiting for battles.

also Ima roll a new team, Arthur n Dante, coz theyre hella cheap.

gonna add Taskmaster in there too coz he is freakin Skeletor which is awesome
 
Online is absolute garbage for this game. Unless its with you guys or local people im not even going to try that shit anymore and risk fucking up my execution because of the absurd amount of lag.
 
That's surprising they went with the PS3 version... didn't realize there was screen-tearing on the 360.

I guess that the conclusion is that until there's a PC (read: competent) version, there can be no peace :whistle2:/
 
[quote name='Chacrana']That's surprising they went with the PS3 version... didn't realize there was screen-tearing on the 360.

I guess that the conclusion is that until there's a PC (read: competent) version, there can be no peace :whistle2:/[/QUOTE]

Apparently both have the same slowdown but the 360 has frame tearing to go with it. PC version please, capcom.
 
Ok someone tell me this is bullshit. I just read that people can use simple mode online? Wtf is that crap, can they use it in ranked as well? Nub modes should never be in any game, this is a fighter not fucking Mario.
 
[quote name='distgfx']It would appear that everybody was right, both versions have slowdown. The 360 one has tearing to go with that slowdown though.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head/verdictps3/head2head-marvel-vs-capcom-3-analysis/

Pick your poison, I picked both.[/QUOTE]

That's weird.

I've played both and I noticed more negatives about the PS3 version. From even just selecting characters/assists (characters took longer to load) to the longer load time at the Vs. screen, longer load time/studders during Character intros, etc etc...

Even in Arcade Mode, the PS3 loading up the final fight with Galactus seems to take longer than the 360 version. I have the game installed on both.

My poison= 360 version
 
[quote name='LostRoad']Ok someone tell me this is bullshit. I just read that people can use simple mode online? Wtf is that crap, can they use it in ranked as well? Nub modes should never be in any game, this is a fighter not fucking Mario.[/QUOTE]

Same shit in BlazBlue CS ranked, this isn't the first game to do it, sadly.

[quote name='asianxcore']That's weird.

I've played both and I noticed more negatives about the PS3 version. From even just selecting characters/assists (characters took longer to load) to the longer load time at the Vs. screen, longer load time/studders during Character intros, etc etc...

Even in Arcade Mode, the PS3 loading up the final fight with Galactus seems to take longer than the 360 version. I have the game installed on both.

My poison= 360 version[/QUOTE]

Yea, as far as I know they don't install the games to test loading unless it's mandatory. I can't argue with the frame rate analysis, though.

Your poison is both versions, you own both!
 
[quote name='distgfx']Same shit in BlazBlue CS ranked, this isn't the first game to do it, sadly.



[/QUOTE]

Never noticed that at all, well no ranked for me till that shit is gone.

Should be on this evening if you and Jim are up for some games Asian.
 
[quote name='distgfx']
Yea, as far as I know they don't install the games to test loading unless it's mandatory. I can't argue with the frame rate analysis, though.

Your poison is both versions, you own both![/QUOTE]

True. Though once I'm done beating the game with everyone again on PS3, I'll probably never touch that version again unless someone I know wants me to play on it.

[quote name='LostRoad']
Should be on this evening if you and Jim are up for some games Asian.[/QUOTE]

I'll be out of town :(

Another local arcade about 30 minutes from me got in SSFIV: AE, so I'm going there soon with a couple friends of mine. Then a late, late, late, late MVC3/SSFIV session at a friends house.
 
[quote name='asianxcore']True. Though once I'm done beating the game with everyone again on PS3, I'll probably never touch that version again unless someone I know wants me to play on it.[/QUOTE]

Me.
Not really, don't care which version.
 
I'll be on later, LostRoad.

Quick question, ordering new artwork for my TE from Art's Hobbies / Tek-Innovations, so I'm going to pick up a clear dust-washer as well. For a Round 1 TE, do I want the JLF - W/Shaft Cover Version or JLF - No Shaft Cover Version?
 
I don't think it matters, Jimbo. You can unscrew the balltop and remove the washer and shaft cover and put in the clear one.

Edit: I just looked at my TE and it has a shaft cover. I think you're good ordering a JLF w/ shaft cover. Arthong is one cool guy to deal with.
 
[quote name='LostRoad']Ok someone tell me this is bullshit. I just read that people can use simple mode online? Wtf is that crap, can they use it in ranked as well? Nub modes should never be in any game, this is a fighter not fucking Mario.[/QUOTE]
...Does it really matter? If you're good enough you'll win either way.

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Yes it really matters, with lag it could go from dropping your combos, vs one person hitting one button and pulling them off. This isn't pokemon execution matters. Beside kinda defeats the purpose of ranked.
 
I don't know where you pulled the Pokemon comparison from, but I'll ignore it for the sake of thinking you're a moron.

And Simple Mode is a part of the game as much as the choice of announcers is. I'm never going to use it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be as salty as you are if I play someone online (eventually) who happens to be using it. Besides, does it even announce that your opponent is using Simple Mode before the fight begins? If not, then how would you ever know? And if you never knew, then how do you know you haven't lost to it already?
 
I think I've got a more nailed down team now:

Cap A, Spencer, Hulk


I dont want to keep hulk but nobody else seems to fit the bill.

I'm glad I've gotten use to Spencer since I wanted to main him but was initially turned off, but now back on again ^_^
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']I don't know where you pulled the Pokemon comparison from, but I'll ignore it for the sake of thinking you're a moron.

And Simple Mode is a part of the game as much as the choice of announcers is. I'm never going to use it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be as salty as you are if I play someone online (eventually) who happens to be using it. Besides, does it even announce that your opponent is using Simple Mode before the fight begins? If not, then how would you ever know? And if you never knew, then how do you know you haven't lost to it already?[/QUOTE]

They use the same combo over and over, it would also make it blatantly obvious they're not hit confirming. They use air exchange all the time in every single combo. They only stick to spamming one special and super.

It's not a 100% guaranteed way to tell, but it's pretty damned close.
 
[quote name='distgfx']They use the same combo over and over, it would also make it blatantly obvious they're not hit confirming. They use air exchange all the time in every single combo. They only stick to spamming one special and super.

It's not a 100% guaranteed way to tell, but it's pretty damned close.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, I've seen top players, including Justin Wong, repeating the same combo over and over again. So that "counterpoint" doesn't hold much water.
 
and also, fuck hit confirming in this game.

whenever I try to hit confirm, I jus drop combos.

instead I just close my eyes and hit all the buttons hoping it works.
 
Online is just an outlet to use as practice and to have some fun. A person who uses simple mode probably isn't very good to begin with -- at most he's probably pretty decent and uses it to help boost his rank. If you're angry about simple mode because you take the game seriously and see it as unfair, understand you'll face much better players down the road who don't use the handicap.

It's like joining a pub in CS and there's a few wall hackers on the enemy team. Shoot them in the face. If you can't handle them, chances are you won't want to face someone who can actually play the game properly.
 
Are any of you guys good with Photoshop or GIMP or anything and willing to lend a hand? This is as far as I got with my stick template...

zpguc.jpg


before being out of my league... what I want are the symbols (minus the shadaloo skull) seen on the back of this shirt
Bosozoku-Back.jpg

in white across the top of the stick (centered between the turbo and wing of the Shadaloo symbol). I want the symbols left to right instead of up to down.

If you can help, it'd be greatly appreciated. Please PM me if you can.
 
hit me up on PSN for MVC3, im 43 and 10 and want to play someone who is decent (and not beef, hes too good) to see if im just getting lucky or if im doing ok.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']hit me up on PSN for MVC3, im 43 and 10 and want to play someone who is decent (and not beef, hes too good) to see if im just getting lucky or if im doing ok.[/QUOTE]
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']I don't know where you pulled the Pokemon comparison from, but I'll ignore it for the sake of thinking you're a moron.

And Simple Mode is a part of the game as much as the choice of announcers is. I'm never going to use it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be as salty as you are if I play someone online (eventually) who happens to be using it. Besides, does it even announce that your opponent is using Simple Mode before the fight begins? If not, then how would you ever know? And if you never knew, then how do you know you haven't lost to it already?[/QUOTE]

I made a three sentence post even explaining why it is a bad thing and somehow that still went over your head, so here goes;

First and foremost in ranked it is bs. Ranked matches are suppose to be about who is the better player, not who has simple commands to link their combos into a hyper. If you think that is fine, well rock on star child.

There is no icon that pops saying if someone is using it, though as Dizzy already stated it is the same combos,air exchange in all air combos, and the use of one hyper. How is this bad from the looks of this it is set so a player can simple go 1,2,3 into hyper because of the combo set up. Now this affects you in rank because online is not great, lag is there and it clearly gives an unfair advantage to the person using it where as others have to fight with lag to pull off their own combos into their next set up or deal with simple mistakes that happen with inputs where as the other player does not.

The pokemon was a simple choice in a game that can be enjoyed with out any form of execution needed to enjoy the game, I even said this. Seems I hit a nerve, I would think a grown man would be more secure in your choice to enjoy pedomon.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']"Organization of Evil"?[/QUOTE]
yeah

that sounds better than my translation of
"bad organization"

true story
jekki told me some japanese guy went up to him and said "your sweater is rad. it's kinda like a yakuza/mafia thing, so cool."
 
[quote name='LostRoad']I made a three sentence post even explaining why it is a bad thing and somehow that still went over your head, so here goes;

First and foremost in ranked it is bs. Ranked matches are suppose to be about who is the better player, not who has simple commands to link their combos into a hyper. If you think that is fine, well rock on star child.

There is no icon that pops saying if someone is using it, though as Dizzy already stated it is the same combos,air exchange in all air combos, and the use of one hyper. How is this bad from the looks of this it is set so a player can simple go 1,2,3 into hyper because of the combo set up. Now this affects you in rank because online is not great, lag is there and it clearly gives an unfair advantage to the person using it where as others have to fight with lag to pull off their own combos into their next set up or deal with simple mistakes that happen with inputs where as the other player does not.

The pokemon was a simple choice in a game that can be enjoyed with out any form of execution needed to enjoy the game, I even said this. Seems I hit a nerve, I would think a grown man would be more secure in your choice to enjoy pedomon.[/QUOTE]
You're getting in over your head if you think Pokemon is nothing but "simple choices," but that's a topic for a different time.

I don't see how Simple Mode in Ranked is bs, at least using your logic. If Ranked is supposed to be the place where the "better player wins," and you lose to someone using Simple Mode, then what does that say? In the real world, however, if I play someone and later find out that they used Simple Mode against me, then who really gives a fuck? Ranked doesn't mean shit, and it has never meant shit. If anything, it's a practice arena for people who can't reliably play offline with other people. If Simple mode helps them get better and eventually play without it, then it has done its job.

And being accustomed to lag, as disgusting as this may sound, should be normal by now if you're playing a Capcom fighter. If you're this shocked that they're using a sub-par netcode, then I don't know what to say to you.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']"Organization of Evil"?[/QUOTE]

Thanks, but I am looking for someone who can hook me up with a little Photoshop handywork and get those symbols (Kanji, right?) onto my stick template. I have it saved as a PSD file.

ROLENTO I NEED YOU
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']You're getting in over your head if you think Pokemon is nothing but "simple choices," but that's a topic for a different time.

I don't see how Simple Mode in Ranked is bs, at least using your logic. If Ranked is supposed to be the place where the "better player wins," and you lose to someone using Simple Mode, then what does that say? In the real world, however, if I play someone and later find out that they used Simple Mode against me, then who really gives a fuck? Ranked doesn't mean shit, and it has never meant shit. If anything, it's a practice arena for people who can't reliably play offline with other people. If Simple mode helps them get better and eventually play without it, then it has done its job.

And being accustomed to lag, as disgusting as this may sound, should be normal by now if you're playing a Capcom fighter. If you're this shocked that they're using a sub-par netcode, then I don't know what to say to you.[/QUOTE]
i really don't think you get what LR is saying.

pokemon = no execution required
yes you have to choose your TMs, your order, level up properly with the right EVs etc etc
but there's no dexterity required to do that, you don't get points for putting in your command first, it's turn based

ranked = a place to match up against people your skill level, it's not so much "i'm A class and your D class" but some of us enjoy playing other A class players.

simple - takes away from the dexterity portion of the game

for example
let's say my combo has a certain timing after the launch that is difficult to hit, which is the difference between 300,000 damage and 700,000 damage

if i was using simple mode, i can override that just by mashing and getting 700,000 damage every time. and dexterity is a big part of fighting games, being able to do something by execution alone has always been a staple of the genre

i know the argument falls apart when simple mode combos aren't actually the best combos, but i understand that.


@Jimbo Slice:
if you have japanese input on your computer, the romaji is "aku no soshiki" so you should be able to type it on any computer on photoshop or gimp provided you use the correct fonts. if no one else can do it i can do it for you.

see

悪の組織
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']I don't know where you pulled the Pokemon comparison from, but I'll ignore it for the sake of thinking you're a moron.

And Simple Mode is a part of the game as much as the choice of announcers is. I'm never going to use it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be as salty as you are if I play someone online (eventually) who happens to be using it. Besides, does it even announce that your opponent is using Simple Mode before the fight begins? If not, then how would you ever know? And if you never knew, then how do you know you haven't lost to it already?[/QUOTE]

Doesn't Simple Mode remove move sets as well?

I thought I heard that Dante goes from like 40 moves to 5-7 if you do Simple Mode.
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']To be fair, I've seen top players, including Justin Wong, repeating the same combo over and over again. So that "counterpoint" doesn't hold much water.[/QUOTE]

Same specific combos over and over, better?
 
GGs Jim. That Tron corner pressure had me mind fucked, is there anyway to get out of that or is it gg once I get locked down? Need to spend time away from my main team to learn more of these other little shits set ups.
 
[quote name='distgfx']Same specific combos over and over, better?[/QUOTE]
In the case of Floe's Haggar and Justin's Wolverine, they use the same specific combo over and over again.

I get what you're saying though, I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']In the case of Floe's Haggar and Justin's Wolverine, they use the same specific combo over and over again.

I get what you're saying though, I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.[/QUOTE]

You're such a dick, LOL!
 
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