Fighting Thread XXXII - How, Exactly, Can Blood Melt?

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[quote name='Azumangaman']Thanks, asianxcore, the reason I don't import is because my PS2 is broken. Not sure if I should just go with a slim PS2 or fix the one I have (which I screwed around with the front to get the swap-magic thing (which I also have, but I don't know where the DVD one is.

EDIT: Nope, all of my friends are stupid and don't play video games.[/QUOTE]


don't buy a japanese system... just do the tape thingy and buy a slim PS2. PS2 slim consoles seem roughly only slightly above a single 360/PS3 game in price, so go with that.
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']don't buy a japanese system... just do the tape thingy and buy a slim PS2. PS2 slim consoles seem roughly only slightly above a single 360/PS3 game in price, so go with that.[/QUOTE]

Seconded, those things are so easy to mod it's retarded.
 
I'd recommend HnK FoNS. It's just over-the-top fun. There's some balance problems and bugs, but they're easy to overlook if you don't take it seriously.
 
If you like Guilty Gear you'll enjoy Hokuto no Ken (Fist of the North Star) I'm not 100% sure if the same people made it, (I know it's Arc Systems) but the way it plays & looks it sure seems like it. The instant death moves are awsome to pull off. Unlike GG they require more skill.
 
Hey, Senko no Ronde is awesome! That's about as much of a review as I can give after 20 minutes of playing it...
 
[quote name='Apossum']Hey, Senko no Ronde is awesome! That's about as much of a review as I can give after 20 minutes of playing it...[/QUOTE]


I thought you were going to wait for it to hit $20? the $29.99 price was enough for you?

well the devil kings game is made by arc systems as well, so that'll be good. Neato things like assist moves or whatever they are called make the game interesting (summon a hawk or army guys to help... the longer you wait to use it the stronger it gets).
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']if you like GG gameplay, get melty blood. I'm not the type to like those speedy type of 2d fighters, but it seems good for ya.[/QUOTE]A better suggestion,

if u like GG gameplay, then play GG.

oooooohh~~~

and do u wanna be a hardcore fighting gamer in the sense that u wanna play every fighting game out there, or u wanna get real good at the games worth playing competitively??

if it's the latter, then do not bother with getting imports becoz all the games played in US tournaments are available domestically.

if u wanna play fighters for the sake of consumption, then go ahead and learn how to import.
 
[quote name='Apossum']Hey, Senko no Ronde is awesome! That's about as much of a review as I can give after 20 minutes of playing it...[/QUOTE]

Didn't know you bought the game. Gotta get in some online matches sometime.

Are you having trouble with the end bosses in Story Mode? Maybe I suck at shmups but that shit is way hard.
 
Yeah, I have the hardest time with Senko no Ronde. I really should read up on strategies so I can figure out why the battles take me so long to play through...

And Rodimus, HnK was developed for Sega by Arc.
 
I want to be hardcore (I'm not really sure why I used that word- should've used GOOD) meaning I want to buy a good arcade stick (which I guess isn't very hardcore) and I want to actually be good at fighting games.
 
Azu, you'll never be better than me at DOA 4, so stop trying. :lol: But -- the best stick you'll get on the 360 is probably the upcoming VF5 stick, so get that if you're planning to play VF online (which you should.) If you've got a PS2 or PS3 (actually, I know you have a PS3), pick up a HRAP or a Tekken stick. The Tekken stick is cheaper, but uses a stick and buttons that are slightly less awesome, though still very good (from my understanding.) With the Pelican converter, you can use the Tekken stick on your PS3 and PC as well.

As for getting good at fighters, honestly, I'd recommend playing GG until you get at least decent at it. The reason being that it's a really complex fighter and really fast paced, so if you can handle that and get good at developing your own strategies (IMO, the most important skill you need for being good at fighters in general), then you can apply that to pretty much anything since there's little else that requires you to act as fast as GG. And no, before the wolves attack me, I'm not saying that VF, Tekken, etc. are slow.
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']I thought you were going to wait for it to hit $20? the $29.99 price was enough for you?

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yeah, I traded in some of the scum of my collection and knocked it down to $14. I've been scoping out this game pretty much since it came out...couldn't hold out any longer :)

Didn't know you bought the game. Gotta get in some online matches sometime.

Are you having trouble with the end bosses in Story Mode? Maybe I suck at shmups but that shit is way hard.

Just bought it about 6 hours ago :)

I played for only a few minutes but I've noticed that some of the boss forms have seemingly impossible to dodge curtain fire. I'm going to play the hell out of this game over the weekend and try to figure out how it all works...
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']if anyone goes to GS/EB anytime soon, today all VF5 game guides dropped to a penny... time to get one.[/QUOTE]


oh shiz, I saw one there today. thanks for the heads up!
 
[quote name='Chacrana']As for getting good at fighters, honestly, I'd recommend playing GG until you get at least decent at it. The reason being that it's a really complex fighter and really fast paced, so if you can handle that and get good at developing your own strategies (IMO, the most important skill you need for being good at fighters in general), then you can apply that to pretty much anything since there's little else that requires you to act as fast as GG. And no, before the wolves attack me, I'm not saying that VF, Tekken, etc. are slow.[/QUOTE]lol!..... no.

Guilty gear is definitely not a complex fighter whatsoever, tho I am not saying that it is simple, but it's very accessible.

offensively you have an incredible amount of options:

*every character has high priority anti-air moves,
*every character has a safe meaty hit that doesnt leave you in dangerous recovery,
*every character has an overhead attack that launches the opponent.
*every character has a blue cancel for rush down

defensively;

*your character can perform a guard that reduces blockstun, eliminates chip damage, and pushes your opponent farther decreasing pressure
*bursting acts as a combo breaker of sorts
*a universal alpha-counter type move

so it's becoz of all this safety put into the game that you do not have to act fast at all!

GG is nothing more than a game of variety of crazy ass combos which makes it fun. damn near every aspect in the game revolves around this issue.

every time a new revision to the game comes out, the combos change.

tech recovery and counter hit properties all encourage and inhibit different combo opportunities making you pick and choose a new one for each situation, as does the guard block meter.

the only complexity really is the variety as each characters plays so differently, but once u get comfortable with that character you're set.

CVS2 and 3S are games that make you think fast, faster games like GG and MVC2 require less thinking and more raw ability to perform shyt.

finally, the only real skill necessary to kno in playing games is to understand why you are losing. period.

with youtube and all this shyt, anybody can get good at pulling shit off, but that doesnt mean you're gonna kick ass against ppl. Just play, recognize your mistakes and weaknesses, and then do something about it.
 
i dunno Jekki, GG appears really fast and easy to mash, but a lot of characters aren't all that intuitive. I feel like the only really intuitive character with easy combos is Jam (keep in mind I've never even tried using Sol or Ky, so I imagine they're easier to use since they're the ken and ryu of gg.)
 
too good... still stands as my most wanted game this year... beats Mass Effect, MGS4 and all others:

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and out of nowhere jack-6 now has a long poke:

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[quote name='RelentlessRolento']if anyone goes to GS/EB anytime soon, today all VF5 game guides dropped to a penny... time to get one.[/quote]

oh shit!
 
[quote name='Apossum']i dunno Jekki, GG appears really fast and easy to mash, but a lot of characters aren't all that intuitive. I feel like the only really intuitive character with easy combos is Jam (keep in mind I've never even tried using Sol or Ky, so I imagine they're easier to use since they're the ken and ryu of gg.)[/QUOTE]well becoz of the gattling system, all characters are intuitive, similar to the magic series in marvel games.

but in regards to Jam, she actually takes a lot more work to play as, comparable to Chipp I would say.

I can understand if you're talking about how you can cancel her kick command attacks into other ones,

but ultimately that is not how you play her effectively.

Do not judge a game on how it appears. Figure out how to play, then make a statement.
 
I think UMK3 with be the first game I get 200/200 on. I beat Noob last night now I just have the 100 wins left, and a Friendship.
 
[quote name='Logg']I think UMK3 with be the first game I get 200/200 on. I beat Noob last night now I just have the 100 wins left, and a Friendship.[/QUOTE]

Nice. It might've been the first one I did as well, I can't remember.

edit: I think Geo Wars was first.
 
[quote name='JEKKI']well becoz of the gattling system, all characters are intuitive, similar to the magic series in marvel games.

but in regards to Jam, she actually takes a lot more work to play as, comparable to Chipp I would say.

I can understand if you're talking about how you can cancel her kick command attacks into other ones,

but ultimately that is not how you play her effectively.

Do not judge a game on how it appears. Figure out how to play, then make a statement.[/QUOTE]


I can make a statement without being top ranked, ya know. ;) there are a lot of weird specials and supers that are difficult to use effectively. it's not all gatling combos. it is very fast paced and accessible, but there's a lot of precision involved in the game. anyone who has some experience with fighters can see that.
 
[quote name='jimfoley16']That doesn't look so much like a long poke with J5 (6?) as a re-animated B,DB,D,DF+2.....[/QUOTE]


good point... here's hoping his B,DB,D,DF+1 is the same :) too cheap then :p

also my first 200/200 XBLA game was UNO... and my only full disc game I got full on was oblivion (ie. 1250/1250).

oh and some stupidity:

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Hey Markman!

Sorry this is the wrong forum but I didn't get the answer I was looking for in the PS3 forum. Granted, there may not be an answer I like so I'll try here.

Anyhow, you have the JP version of T5DR right? My question is this, how the hell did you manage to buy stuff in the Japanese Playstation store? I'm dying to be frustrated and angry at the JP PSOne release of Last Blade but I can't buy it. Any pointers from you (or anyone really) would be appreciated.
 
Got a VF5 guide for a penny today, thanks again for the heads up Rolento.


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a copy of Street Fighter: The Movie for PS1 complete in the long box! Bow down! It was only $5 so I figured I could get a few laughs then Ebay it :) They also had Primal Rage, but I passed.
 
[quote name='Halo05']Hey Markman!

Sorry this is the wrong forum but I didn't get the answer I was looking for in the PS3 forum. Granted, there may not be an answer I like so I'll try here.

Anyhow, you have the JP version of T5DR right? My question is this, how the hell did you manage to buy stuff in the Japanese Playstation store? I'm dying to be frustrated and angry at the JP PSOne release of Last Blade but I can't buy it. Any pointers from you (or anyone really) would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

I got a Japanese PSN Store card... They only sell them in convenience stores in Japan... so I had someone get one for me and email me the activation code... badabing badaboom...
 
[quote name='Rodimus Donut']^ Your EB/Gamestop still carries PS1 games? Lucky[/QUOTE]


nah, that was from a local place.


and wow is that game horrible. :lol:
 
[quote name='Apossum']nah, that was from a local place.


and wow is that game horrible. :lol:[/quote]

I picked one up in Japan for 100 yen ($1) I pop it in every now and then for a laugh. Blanka always looked so stupid, and I never understood who the hell Sawanda was.
 
[quote name='Rodimus Donut']I picked one up in Japan for 100 yen ($1) I pop it in every now and then for a laugh. Blanka always looked so stupid, and I never understood who the hell Sawanda was.[/QUOTE]


I read an explanation of who he is in a post from a guy who helped create the arcade version (it's basically a huge apologetic rant about how they had hoped to create an amazing game and ended up with crap.)


Ken has the best win pose. :lol:
 
Anyone play dot fighter yet and have impressions?


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oh, and WTF is this?

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lastly... I just watched Dead Leaves and liked it alot. Not surprising aye ;)

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I tried to see if Play-asia could get me those JP PSN cards but they can't. I wonder if white rabbit can...

EDIT - Nevermind, according to their website they got fucking neutered. Damn.
 
[quote name='Apossum']I can make a statement without being top ranked, ya know. ;) there are a lot of weird specials and supers that are difficult to use effectively. it's not all gatling combos. it is very fast paced and accessible, but there's a lot of precision involved in the game. anyone who has some experience with fighters can see that.[/QUOTE]I donno about most games other than XX, but I been playing accent core a bit this week.

and granted yeay, there quite a bit of precision in the game as when I try to do shyt I'm seeing in videos, the opponent always tech escapes me, so I gotta keep on doing these moves until I figure out how to do them right.

I cant even connect an air follow up from a rensen blue cancel yet -_-, but I think I kno what I am doing wrong. Cant do bomber loop yet either, altho I think I'm almost there.

so in the end, with enough practice it begins to come more natural, and I've only been practicing for 2 days with $1 - $1.50 each day.

in XX the opponents ability to tech out was not as lenient, something that got fixed (or changed) with each new installment I guess. There was less need for precision outside of FRC and just more ability of being good with the buttons.

EDIT: unrelated story, here sum pics I took yesterday (in bad quality as always)




like I'm tryin to play street fighter when like muthafuckas start showing up slowly and turning the parking lot into freakin fast n the furious hot import nites for no reason at all.

the lot was packed!!! there's like 200+ random azz doods jus chillin by their cars and starin at other ppl chillin by their cars. I'm surprise I made it out man -_- !~~
 
@MM: Add me to your regional T5DR Online meetup list if you need people to fill up the list:

State: #14 Florida
Area: Miami
Name: RelentlessRolento
PSN Name: Rolento
Time Online: Late Night
Level of play: Fun (though I consider my focus of play more pro than fun)

don't feel like you have to add me... just throwing my info into the bin.
 
^^ RR, thanks! I'm going to launch it soon, probably a few days before the US launch! I'll be sure to add your name in there...

If anyone else is wondering, I'm putting together a player matchfinder index for people looking for T5DR Online competition... you can check it out here(although it is nowhere like what the final page will look like)...

www.sdtekken.com/t5dr/online/matchfinder
 
aw man.... watch this NOW~!

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greatest thing since Mr Lif rapping about Tekken 3
 
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