First Pic of Ledger as Joker in new Batman!

1) Calling "The Dark Kight" with no mention of Batman in the title. People are too stupid to know that its a Batman flick.

Well, they are, but I have a feeling that Warner Bros. is going to be hitting them/us early and often for the next 12-14 months with promo material for this film, so that by the time it premieres, no one will have any uncertainty as to who The Dark Knight is. I will concede, too, that they may decide to change the official title to Batman: The Dark Knight before it's all said and done. Just to be sure.


2) Too dark, not enough "heart" -- people want a light-hearted romp, espceially kids.


And that shit just pisses me off. You want that, folks?* Go see Fantastic Four, or TMNT, or now Spider-Man. This is not your father's Adam West Batman, this isn't even your own childhood's Michael Keaton Batman. Batman Begins kind of made that statement pretty fuckin' unequivocally, I think. Like I said before, I'm just praying for three true-to-Nolan's-vision films before the studio cries "Uncle!" and puts someone soulless sycophant on the project. Hell, by then it'll be time for the next Presidential election, and we'll all be either repenting or chanting "To-ga! To-ga!" as the Mayan calendar ends.

*--What really irks me more than clueless suburbanites clamoring for a kinder, campier Batfilm is that I really sense that a lot of actual fans want it, too. There seems to exist a large portion of the 'geek community' that feels as though anything that elevates itself beyond the emotional immaturity, nonexistent story, and crap dialogue that their mediums of choice have traditionally exhibited suffers from some sort of "Uncle Tom" syndrome, but as branded by the sun-and-girl-aversive. fuck these types most of all. It's they that are going to keep everything from gaming to escapist films in perpetual adolescence. So next time you meet a guy that sincerely wants to fantasy-cast Bruce Campbell for any and every project you can throw out there, please punch him in the glasses for me. Hard.
 
Supposedly, Scarecrow is going to return for The Dark Knight, which should make for an interestingly creepy atmosphere to the movie, if it's done right. Strangely enough, the Harry Potter movie could have the first teaser trailer for The Dark Knight.
 
Blah... "Batman Begins" was really bad. Bale did a bad job, especially with that gritty voice he used when he was Batman. WTF? And Katie Holmes? Really?

This will suck too.
 
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lol i was just gonna type that marylin manson would have made a good joker if he put on some weight and muscle. have that creepy weird gay kinda odd evil thing and maybe change up his makeup some. btw hheath ledger joker looks stupid and wtf with with that vagina on the side of his face? a coupple of days out of each month that thing has to be a bitch to deal with. they need to quit cramin these films with pretty boys and go for people with talent and balls.

one person aside from mark hamil i think could have pulled off the joker was the guy from gone in 60 seconds and 28 days later. he was in heros too i cant think of his name.Christopher Eccleston
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001172/ he does a really good psycho another person id go for is the main guy from shaun of the dead he could do a quirky kinda semi funny and odd joker. itd be a stretch but it could work.


but if you could go back in time id use a young Malcolm McDowell as the joker hell he could pull the role off at an old age too.
 
[quote name='valor19']Blah... "Batman Begins" was really bad. Bale did a bad job, especially with that gritty voice he used when he was Batman. WTF? And Katie Holmes? Really?

This will suck too.[/quote]


and dont forget the batmotank that thing was horrible. i did like morgan freeman though.
 
[quote name='lokizz']and dont forget the batmotank that thing was horrible. i did like morgan freeman though.[/quote]

The ONLY complaint I had about Batman Begins was some of that hand-held Bourne Supremacy esque camera work.

Bale did a great job as a man who puts on a suit and slips into character... not a dumbass who talks the same way in and out of his suit to people he interacts with in both lives.

Batmotank... what, you'd rather batman be driving around in his penis mobile? The new Batmobile makes sense in just about everyway...the fact that the made working versions of it is just icing on the cake for me.
 
That pic of the new Joker looks absolutely stupid.

Further proof that the DC Animated Universe is the only way to do Batman proper.
 
[quote name='SpottedNigel']The ONLY complaint I had about Batman Begins was some of that hand-held Bourne Supremacy esque camera work.[/QUOTE]

Well, can't blame them for that: most of that camera work was during the fight scenes, and considering all those molded rubber muscles pretty much prevent the guy in the suit from actually fighting, they had to make him look like a great martial artist somehow.

No, my problems with that movie were different. I don't know what "dark and mature" Batman movie Jollydwarf was watching, but mine had classic lines like "Nice coat", and the Scarecrow getting tasered in the face and screaming like a little girl, and Batman revealing his identity to yet another woman, and a wholely nonsensical script about fear (Ever hear of a topic sentence, Goyer?), and Katie Holmes, and a PG-13 rating. In short, the one I saw was decent largely because it was "alright" and not a Joel Schumacher abomination, rather than "an actual good Batman movie." So whatever mythical "Batman for grownups" movie we'd like to see, Begins wasn't it.
 
[quote name='trq']Well, can't blame them for that: most of that camera work was during the fight scenes, and considering all those molded rubber muscles pretty much prevent the guy in the suit from actually fighting, they had to make him look like a great martial artist somehow.

No, my problems with that movie were different. I don't know what "dark and mature" Batman movie Jollydwarf was watching, but mine had classic lines like "Nice coat", and the Scarecrow getting tasered in the face and screaming like a little girl, and Batman revealing his identity to yet another woman, and a wholely nonsensical script about fear (Ever hear of a topic sentence, Goyer?), and Katie Holmes, and a PG-13 rating. In short, the one I saw was decent largely because it was "alright" and not a Joel Schumacher abomination, rather than "an actual good Batman movie." So whatever mythical "Batman for grownups" movie we'd like to see, Begins wasn't it.[/quote]

The only great theatrical Batman movie was Mask of the Phantasm. Frankly, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker was better than even that (although it was direct-to-video).

The first live-action was fun, but hardly a classic. Jack Nicholson was great, but Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne has got to be one of the most oddly casted parts in movie history.

Batman Begins was ok, but still had room for improvement.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']The only great theatrical Batman movie was Mask of the Phantasm. Frankly, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker was better than even that (although it was direct-to-video).

The first live-action was fun, but hardly a classic. Jack Nicholson was great, but Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne has got to be one of the most oddly casted parts in movie history.

Batman Begins was ok, but still had room for improvement.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, your opinion is done. Sorry. It was fun while it lasted.
 
[quote name='evanft']Yeah, your opinion is done. Sorry. It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

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Supposedly, Scarecrow is going to return for The Dark Knight, which should make for an interestingly creepy atmosphere to the movie, if it's done right.

Really?? I hadn't heard that, even though the end of Batman Begins strongly suggested his reemergence in some capacity. My understanding was that Cillian Murphy was 'out' for this picture. Another 'recasting' as he never takes the mask off? Nolan disinformation misdirection? I hope you're right.

Strangely enough, the Harry Potter movie could have the first teaser trailer for The Dark Knight.

I expect it too, and really, Order of the Phoenix, while Hogwarts is no Gotham, won't exactly be the "light-hearted romp" that the yokels and kiddies and camp-loving, growth-stunted nerds supposedly want. At least, not if it's anything like the book. It'll be just an announcement teaser, with maybe a shot or two from the film, I'd assume, but we'll see something.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']The only great theatrical Batman movie was Mask of the Phantasm. Frankly, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker was better than even that (although it was direct-to-video).
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wh.... nevermind..
 
So, Anthony Michael Hall is going to be in the sequel. The thing is, he's contractually forbidden from telling anyone who he's playing.

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"I'm demented and sad...and not very social."
 
[quote name='evanft']Yeah, your opinion is done. Sorry. It was fun while it lasted.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I don't know ... I pretty much agree with him, at least.
 
I think taking the Joker character in a different direction in what Jack played in the first one is a good idea. I thought the Joker in the first movie, while very entertaining, seemed very campy. I hope that we see a Joker that is closer to the one we see in the "Death in the Family" and "Killing Joke" comics.
 
[quote name='MadFlava']I think taking the Joker character in a different direction in what Jack played in the first one is a good idea. I thought the Joker in the first movie, while very entertaining, seemed very campy. I hope that we see a Joker that is closer to the one we see in the "Death in the Family" and "Killing Joke" comics.[/quote]


to see that kinda of joker in a movie youd need a quality plot driven script, amazing actors and an R rating. the nearest weve ever seen a real joker type joker was in the cartoons and even then hes pretty dialed down. im all for seeing the joker unleashed on the screens but that wont ever happen. its a shame too because id love to see him kill robin on screen the way he did in the comics. sick sick man. hell youll see a decent batman videogame before you see the real joker in a movie. now that i think about it id like to se the joker go up against some marvel heros like spiderman, wolverine or maybe even a villan like sabretooth. hell imagine the damage he could inflict on the FF
 
[quote name='jollydwarf']Supposedly, Scarecrow is going to return for The Dark Knight, which should make for an interestingly creepy atmosphere to the movie, if it's done right.

Really?? I hadn't heard that, even though the end of Batman Begins strongly suggested his reemergence in some capacity. My understanding was that Cillian Murphy was 'out' for this picture. Another 'recasting' as he never takes the mask off? Nolan disinformation misdirection? I hope you're right.

Strangely enough, the Harry Potter movie could have the first teaser trailer for The Dark Knight.

I expect it too, and really, Order of the Phoenix, while Hogwarts is no Gotham, won't exactly be the "light-hearted romp" that the yokels and kiddies and camp-loving, growth-stunted nerds supposedly want. At least, not if it's anything like the book. It'll be just an announcement teaser, with maybe a shot or two from the film, I'd assume, but we'll see something.[/quote]
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Looks like they changed around www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com

Head in, see the "Page Not Found" and hit Ctrl and A for a fun little treat :D

[quote name='lokizz']to see that kinda of joker in a movie youd need a quality plot driven script, amazing actors and an R rating.[/QUOTE]

If Batman Begins is any indication, you got 2/3 already; all that's left is the R rating
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']Looks like they changed around www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com

Head in, see the "Page Not Found" and hit Ctrl and A for a fun little treat :D



If Batman Begins is any indication, you got 2/3 already; all that's left is the R rating[/quote]
Yeah, I noticed it changed too. Little upset that I didn't get a chance to see the original...oh well.

I think this is what was originally there:

http://www.canmag.com/nw/7767-heath-ledger-joker-pic
 
[quote name='lokizz']

one person aside from mark hamil i think could have pulled off the joker was the guy from gone in 60 seconds and 28 days later.[/QUOTE]



[quote name='lokizz']but if you could go back in time id use a young Malcolm McDowell as the joker hell he could pull the role off at an old age too.[/QUOTE]

 
I don't believe I've ever read any of the comics. Bad timing for me, I suppose, but I wasn't a comic kid.

That said, I'm excited to see the direction they take in this one. To me, Begins was easily the best one of the five. Bale's voice was an issue to me until I realized he was purposely trying to disguise his voice, like any first-time incognito person would do. I'm sure it will become a bit more natural as the series unfolds.

While I love the original Batman, it's also painful for me to watch now. I still think Keaton is the best Batman, I think Bale's Wayne is better. Nicholson fit the Joker for the late 80s/early 90s, but that time has passed. I think we're going to see a truly psycho Joker this time around, and that's exciting. Kim Basinger was favored over a monkey, only because she wouldn't steal any scenes from Keaton.

Batman Returns is hard to watch. Not as much as Batman & Robin, but close. Penguins with rockets? Catwoman? The only redeeming thing was Walken, but even he was toned down. Devito salvaged the film, but hated the concept.

Returns, I actually like it. I am a huge Kilmer fan, but even I think he was vapid in the role of Wayne. Batman was passable. O'Donnell was decent, Kidman was slightly better than Basinger. Tommy Lee Jones was excellent, and I thought Carrey was good. The art direction was slightly less than tolerable.

I won't even get into B&R. Woof.

Begins had a great backstory. I kept waiting for Holmes to kiss Pacey. Bale was excellent, as was Neeson. Paine was good. Murphey was passable. Oldman was excellent, but I expected nothing less out of the man. In fact, I may watch it again tonight.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']I don't believe I've ever read any of the comics. Bad timing for me, I suppose, but I wasn't a comic kid.

That said, I'm excited to see the direction they take in this one. To me, Begins was easily the best one of the five. Bale's voice was an issue to me until I realized he was purposely trying to disguise his voice, like any first-time incognito person would do. I'm sure it will become a bit more natural as the series unfolds.

While I love the original Batman, it's also painful for me to watch now. I still think Keaton is the best Batman, I think Bale's Wayne is better. Nicholson fit the Joker for the late 80s/early 90s, but that time has passed. I think we're going to see a truly psycho Joker this time around, and that's exciting. Kim Basinger was favored over a monkey, only because she wouldn't steal any scenes from Keaton.

Batman Returns is hard to watch. Not as much as Batman & Robin, but close. Penguins with rockets? Catwoman? The only redeeming thing was Walken, but even he was toned down. Devito salvaged the film, but hated the concept.

Returns, I actually like it. I am a huge Kilmer fan, but even I think he was vapid in the role of Wayne. Batman was passable. O'Donnell was decent, Kidman was slightly better than Basinger. Tommy Lee Jones was excellent, and I thought Carrey was good. The art direction was slightly less than tolerable.

I won't even get into B&R. Woof.

Begins had a great backstory. I kept waiting for Holmes to kiss Pacey. Bale was excellent, as was Neeson. Paine was good. Murphey was passable. Oldman was excellent, but I expected nothing less out of the man. In fact, I may watch it again tonight.[/quote]
I liked the overall mood and atmosphere of Begins, but those truncated action scenes really took away from the film IMO. Christian Bale is the best live-action Batman by a long shot. He simply looks, the part of a wealthy, handsome young man. That was the part about Keaton that put me off about the other movies. Clooney was just goofy. Kilmer had his moments and was the second best live-action Batman to me.
 
[quote name='ahmedmalik']I hope they get seriously brutal in this ala Sin City. That would be amazing!

Ichi The Killer meets Batman[/QUOTE]
Wow, that has to be the worst idea ever. Jesus Christ, dude.
 
[quote name='ahmedmalik']I hope they get seriously brutal in this ala Sin City. That would be amazing!

Ichi The Killer meets Batman[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that'll help 'em keep the PG-13 rating for sure...
 
OK, I'm all for the darker look and all but that's just bad looking. It looks like that make-up artist went on a three day crack bender, stumbled into work and did that make up job blindfolded. :bomb:
 
It looks to messy ..I like the direction making it look more like scars but it should look like his skin is clean and around his eyes but this looks like somone gave him a 2 dollar halloween makeup kit and he dabbed his face with powder.

The mouth looks good but it should be more even.
 
So I show a friend the new www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com and he points something out to me: in all of the "HA"s there's a single "s" located right near the "page not found". As it turns out, the entire thing of "ha"s is sprikled with different letters, that when put together spell "See You In December" Pretty damn cool.
 
The Joker's first appearance (1940)
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Brian Bolland, from The Killing Joke (1988)
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Jack Nicholson, from Batman (1989)
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Dave McKean, from Arkham Asylum (1989)
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Heath Ledger, from The Dark Knight
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John Wayne Gacy
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LMAO at that last pic.

Lamest pic would have to be the first, but most comic characters look lame in their first apearence when compared to today. Just look at the first image of Venom.

Thanks for the pic of ole Jack. Comparing him side-by-side with Ledger and I'm already starting to like the Ledger Joker better.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']So I show a friend the new www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com and he points something out to me: in all of the "HA"s there's a single "s" located right near the "page not found". As it turns out, the entire thing of "ha"s is sprikled with different letters, that when put together spell "See You In December" Pretty damn cool.[/quote]

Nice lookin out, that is really cool that they thought to put that on the website.
I like the way the new joker is shaping. Once I heard they were doin joker in the new batman I was just prayin that they do him dark. I'm not sure how Ledger's voice will do as the joker.
 
I don't know how I really feel about it. I don't hate the new look, but I can't say I'm in love with it either. Until we see more I can't really judge.
 
[quote name='ighosty']Nice lookin out, that is really cool that they thought to put that on the website.
I like the way the new joker is shaping. Once I heard they were doin joker in the new batman I was just prayin that they do him dark. I'm not sure how Ledger's voice will do as the joker.[/QUOTE]

That's my chief concern, how the Joker sounds.
 
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