Game of Thrones discussion thread - Season 5 debuts April 12th

In my mind's eye, I picture something like a very haggard Mel Gibson as Stannis. That'd bring some interest to S2. Mel's too old for Stannis, but then every actor has been too old for the roles they play.

IMO Stannis is one of the few characters whose potential GRRM hasn't fully realized thus far, and with a good performance the writers could possibly outdo the four books on this one. Stannis recognizes justice, yet his pursuit of justice is made strange by Melisandre. There's lots of pain and anguish there, the cameras love that shit.
 
[quote name='dothog']In my mind's eye, I picture something like a very haggard Mel Gibson as Stannis. That'd bring some interest to S2. Mel's too old for Stannis, but then every actor has been too old for the roles they play.
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Any of the options discussed here would be just fine by me.
 
[quote name='bvharris']The finale got a series high in the ratings. So much for all those idiots who were going to "quit" after last week. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they finally hit 3 million. I'm sure this series will do well on DVD and Blu-Ray as well, as fantasy fans tend to be devout.
 
It's weird. As a long time fan of the books, the show exceeded my expectations in almost every way. The final Dany scene was the one thing that really let me down. I guess I just had such a strong picture of it in my head that the show could probably never live up to it.

Can't wait for the 2nd season, though.
 
[quote name='Anexanhume']Yeah, they finally hit 3 million. I'm sure this series will do well on DVD and Blu-Ray as well, as fantasy fans tend to be devout.[/QUOTE]

And its doing well overseas. Even with less attention you can make the case this is a bigger hit for them then Boardwalk Empire.

[quote name='timmynausea']It's weird. As a long time fan of the books, the show exceeded my expectations in almost every way. The final Dany scene was the one thing that really let me down. I guess I just had such a strong picture of it in my head that the show could probably never live up to it.

Can't wait for the 2nd season, though.[/QUOTE]

Although everyone waking up came off strange I loved the reveal at the end. I cant imagine them doing that part better.
 
[quote name='timmynausea']It's weird. As a long time fan of the books, the show exceeded my expectations in almost every way. The final Dany scene was the one thing that really let me down. I guess I just had such a strong picture of it in my head that the show could probably never live up to it.

Can't wait for the 2nd season, though.[/QUOTE]

IMO they missed a big opportunity for a really striking, haunting image of a blackened, hairless Dany staring defiantly from the ashes with her dragons.

[quote name='yankeessuck']And its doing well overseas. Even with less attention you can make the case this is a bigger hit for them then Boardwalk Empire.[/QUOTE]

And Martin is going to sell a metric shitton of books yet again.
 
[quote name='Clak']Wouldn't' her hair be fire proof too though? I'm assuming that's what they were going with.[/QUOTE]

That's probably the angle they were pursuing, but in the book, Dany is very clearly mentioned as having the hair burned off baring her scalp.

My guess is HBO opted not to do this because of extra makeup and wig concerns not only depicting her hairless, but also showing her hair at various stages of regrowth.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Any of the options discussed here would be just fine by me.[/QUOTE]

Hmm. Sewell has the Baratheon look. Eccelston would certainly knock the performance out of the park, he does the troubled/disturbed thing really well. I don't know, though. There needs to be a weariness about Stannis, he's bold and forceful yet he lacks vigor.

I really hope they get it right, it would be cool for the TV show to distinguish itself in terms of slightly outpacing the books on certain characters. Stannis is a big opportunity in this regard. I'm sure GRRM would be all for it, too, his "not a blog" suggests he's an amiable sort.

I hope they stick to the books' description in casting Melisandre. Exotic, short, voluptuous, red. If they go the BSG route and make her look like Caprica 6, they've made a huge mistake.

[quote name='Clak']That and she's just hot, nobody wants to see her looking like Sinead O'Connor.[/QUOTE]
WRONG.
 
[quote name='dothog']Hmm. Sewell has the Baratheon look. Eccelston would certainly knock the performance out of the park, he does the troubled/disturbed thing really well. I don't know, though. There needs to be a weariness about Stannis, he's bold and forceful yet he lacks vigor.

I really hope they get it right, it would be cool for the TV show to distinguish itself in terms of slightly outpacing the books on certain characters. Stannis is a big opportunity in this regard. I'm sure GRRM would be all for it, too, his "not a blog" suggests he's an amiable sort.

I hope they stick to the books' description in casting Melisandre. Exotic, short, voluptuous, red. If they go the BSG route and make her look like Caprica 6, they've made a huge mistake.[/QUOTE]Out of those choices, I think I'd guess that HBO might go with name recognition again for someone we'll see a lot of in S2, so Sewell or Eccleston might be the two they'd aim for out of the four choices listed. The other two actors seem like other options, though less well known than Sewell or Eccelston. They mentioned about Eccleston quitting Dr. Who after a season, and I'd have to think the same concern might come up with someone who's going to be around for the season or longer (I assume longer, from what I've seen people talking about in the books).

Not sure who they might pick on the "short, voluptuous, red" route if that's how Melisandre is supposed to look like. Any suggestions? Only one that came to mind for me was Rachel McAdams.

One list to look over might be here:
http://www.imdb.com/list/bnluc3qHoW0/
 
[quote name='shrike4242']
Not sure who they might pick on the "short, voluptuous, red" route if that's how Melisandre is supposed to look like. Any suggestions? Only one that came to mind for me was Rachel McAdams.
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Rachel McAdams is too sweet (not that she'd ever be a realistic option). Melisandre is an unholy bitch. :D
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Out of those choices, I think I'd guess that HBO might go with name recognition again for someone we'll see a lot of in S2, so Sewell or Eccleston might be the two they'd aim for out of the four choices listed. The other two actors seem like other options, though less well known than Sewell or Eccelston. They mentioned about Eccleston quitting Dr. Who after a season, and I'd have to think the same concern might come up with someone who's going to be around for the season or longer (I assume longer, from what I've seen people talking about in the books).

Not sure who they might pick on the "short, voluptuous, red" route if that's how Melisandre is supposed to look like. Any suggestions? Only one that came to mind for me was Rachel McAdams.

One list to look over might be here:
http://www.imdb.com/list/bnluc3qHoW0/[/QUOTE]

Christina Hendricks has a rapid following but she's pretty busy from her IMDB page.
 
Given the current cast and the filming schedule/location, I would doubt very much that any reasonably prominent American actors would be cast. The only major cast members who are American are Dinklage and Mamoa (and now just Dinklage). I'd say it's much more likely we'll see more British/Irish actors cast, since that's who the cast is primarily composed of now.
 
[quote name='bvharris']
Rachel McAdams is too sweet (not that she'd ever be a realistic option). Melisandre is an unholy bitch. :D
[/QUOTE]Good fact to know. Scarlett Johansson came to mind for redhead, though she's busy with The Avengers. For unholy bitch, I'd put in the nods for Claudia Black, Carrie-Anne Moss or Yvonne Straharski, though none of them fit the short designation.

[quote name='Anexanhume']Christina Hendricks has a rapid following but she's pretty busy from her IMDB page.[/QUOTE]She might work, though yes, she's a tad bit busy.

[quote name='bvharris']Given the current cast and the filming schedule/location, I would doubt very much that any reasonably prominent American actors would be cast. The only major cast members who are American are Dinklage and Mamoa (and now just Dinklage). I'd say it's much more likely we'll see more British/Irish actors cast, since that's who the cast is primarily composed of now.[/QUOTE]I think Jason Mamoa would make a great fantasy lead actor (like Conan), from his speech two episodes back. I think someone else in here might have mentioned that fact.

I think if the actors fit the role being American, British, Irish or whomever, they'll get cast. Any other roles of high importance we should be keeping an eye out for besides Stannis?
 
[quote name='bvharris']Given the current cast and the filming schedule/location, I would doubt very much that any reasonably prominent American actors would be cast. The only major cast members who are American are Dinklage and Mamoa (and now just Dinklage). I'd say it's much more likely we'll see more British/Irish actors cast, since that's who the cast is primarily composed of now.[/QUOTE]

They'll never find a red headed actress in Ireland though, that's the problem.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']
Any other roles of high importance we should be keeping an eye out for besides Stannis?[/QUOTE]

Quite a few. Spoilering just in case:

Davos Seaworth - A fairly important character in the book because most of Stannis' story is told through his eyes. But I would suspect Stannis himself will be the bigger name actor, so Davos' role may be marginalized somewhat.
Asha Greyjoy - Theon's sister, and to a lesser extent the rest of his family.
Brienne of Tarth - Fairly major character, basically a big hulking ugly warrior woman, though I strongly suspect we may get someone "Hollywood Ugly" for this role.
Edmure and Brynden Tully - Catelyn's brother and uncle respectively. Her father also plays a role, but a more minor one.

There's more of varying degrees of importance who will probably be featured. There's a good list here:

http://winter-is-coming.net/2010/12/season-two-open-casting-thread/
 
[quote name='bvharris']Quite a few. Spoilering just in case:

Brienne of Tarth - Fairly major character, basically a big hulking ugly warrior woman, though I strongly suspect we may get someone "Hollywood Ugly" for this role.
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book 2
I think you're dead on about "Hollywood Ugly". I imagined Tyrion to be a whole lot uglier but maybe it's just exaggerated in the book because things were much harsher on dwarfs in their environment compared to the real world.
 
We've kind of strayed out of spoiler territory, so I'll remove those tags from this.

[quote name='dastly75']I imagined Tyrion to be a whole lot uglier but maybe it's just exaggerated in the book because things were much harsher on dwarfs in their environment compared to the real world.[/QUOTE]

I don't think it's just you. In the book it's descibred in great detail how hideously ugly Tyrion is, whereas Peter Dinklage is a dwarf, yes, but still a perfectly good looking fellow. In fact I have several female friends who have developed crushes on him, which I doubt they would have if he was as described in the books. :D
 
Tyrion was one of a choice. There aren't a whole lot of little people actors out there, much less ugly ones, you know?

As for Brienne, maybe they could get Xena :D

I'm very interested to see who Davos will be and how they handle his hand.

As for Asha, whoever they cast better have a lot of attitude.
 
[quote name='Anexanhume']
I'm very interested to see who Davos will be and how they handle his hand.
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Not the last hand dilemma they'll be facing. ;)
 
[quote name='bvharris']Quite a few. Spoilering just in case:

Davos Seaworth - A fairly important character in the book because most of Stannis' story is told through his eyes. But I would suspect Stannis himself will be the bigger name actor, so Davos' role may be marginalized somewhat.
Asha Greyjoy - Theon's sister, and to a lesser extent the rest of his family.
Brienne of Tarth - Fairly major character, basically a big hulking ugly warrior woman, though I strongly suspect we may get someone "Hollywood Ugly" for this role.
Edmure and Brynden Tully - Catelyn's brother and uncle respectively. Her father also plays a role, but a more minor one.

There's more of varying degrees of importance who will probably be featured. There's a good list here:

http://winter-is-coming.net/2010/12/season-two-open-casting-thread/
[/QUOTE]That's just a few characters to cast. Hope they get that taken care of in the next few months.

[quote name='Javery'][quote name='shrike4242']She might work, though yes, she's a tad bit busty.[/QUOTE]

Fixed. :D[/QUOTE]Odd you mention that, since she may be Wonder Woman:

http://io9.com/5814094/christina-hendricks-could-be-the-next-wonder-woman

[quote name='Anexanhume']Tyrion was one of a choice. There aren't a whole lot of little people actors out there, much less ugly ones, you know?

As for Brienne, maybe they could get Xena :D

I'm very interested to see who Davos will be and how they handle his hand.

As for Asha, whoever they cast better have a lot of attitude.[/QUOTE]I think there's a pretty small pool of little people actors who are still acting, and I think Dinklage did the role splendidly. He's certainly one of my favorite characters, mainly to see what he says next. ;)

Lucy Lawless recently did BSG, Spartacus and No Ordinary Family, so she's semi-recently out there. I'm not sure if she's up to doing a physical role like Brienne appears to be, though I'm sure there's other options out there for that role.

EDIT: In random news, it looks like they're going to start over with repeating the episodes on HBO2 & HBO2P (non-HD) starting on the 28th at 10PM EST, according to the Tivo website, over three nights (Eps 1/2/3 on 06/28, Eps 4/5/6 on 06/29, and Eps 7/8/9/10 on 06/30), repeated 3 hours later on HBO2P.
 
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[quote name='shrike4242']
Lucy Lawless recently did BSG, Spartacus and No Ordinary Family, so she's semi-recently out there. I'm not sure if she's up to doing a physical role like Brienne appears to be, though I'm sure there's other options out there for that role.

EDIT: In random news, it looks like they're going to start over with repeating the episodes on HBO2 & HBO2P (non-HD) starting on the 28th at 10PM EST, according to the Tivo website, over three nights (Eps 1/2/3 on 06/28, Eps 4/5/6 on 06/29, and Eps 7/8/9/10 on 06/30), repeated 3 hours later on HBO2P.[/QUOTE]

They dont have to match the book but Lucy Lawless is way too attractive. How Brienne looks is more important then how any of the other characters look.
 
From what I recall, Tyrion was only described as ugly in the books through a few things, his hair and his mismatched eyes. He was still a Lannister born of the same mother and father as Jaime and Cersei. They basically took those two things away.

Lucy Lawless as Brienne? Poor fit, even poorer acting ability after what the GoT cast has established. Robin Weigert (Calamity Jane from Deadwood) would be a kickass Brienne. Calamity Jane and Brienne are basically the same character but without the foul mouth and drunkenness, there are also some parallels between Brienne/Jane and Renly/Hickock.

I really hope if they hire any more Americans, they get Garrett Dillahunt (also from Deadwood, worked with Headey in Terminator: SCC). He was already a huge fan of the books and really tried to get on the show. The guy has some excellent range as an actor, and could probably pull off a perfect accent for the show after having to do all the crazy period/regional dialog on Deadwood.
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']

Lucy Lawless as Brienne? Poor fit, even poorer acting ability after what the GoT cast has established. Robin Weigert (Calamity Jane from Deadwood) would be a kickass Brienne. Calamity Jane and Brienne are basically the same character but without the foul mouth and drunkenness, there are also some parallels between Brienne/Jane and Renly/Hickock.

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Brienne has to be big and muscular.
 
Here's the IMDB page for Robin Weigert, for those that may have not seen Deadwood:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0917848/
I guess get her some time muscle up and she'd be a fit?

I'd like to see Garrett Dillahunt do more work, as I did like his work in T: SCC as well as a bit part in The Road. What role do you think he'd work for those that need to be cast?

How about Kiele Sanchez (Nikki Fernandez from Lost) for Melisandre?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0760989/
 
[quote name='shrike4242']
I'd like to see Garrett Dillahunt do more work, as I did like his work in T: SCC as well as a bit part in The Road. What role do you think he'd work for those that need to be cast? [/QUOTE]

He'd be pretty cool as Roose Bolton. He's got that strange voice that would go good with the character. Who'd be perfect for that role is Michael Wincott though.

Melisandre is probably going to be some exotic actress. The girl that plays Ros would have been great. That character was never in the books, just created to be a "prop" in scenes meant for the viewer to get to know secondary (but equally important) characters whose motives/backstories were elements of other characters' thoughts in their POV chapters. Like Grand Maester Pycelle and Littlefinger, where she's just in the scene so a character can give a monologue.
 
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[quote name='shrike4242']Here's the IMDB page for Robin Weigert, for those that may have not seen Deadwood:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0917848/
I guess get her some time muscle up and she'd be a fit?

I'd like to see Garrett Dillahunt do more work, as I did like his work in T: SCC as well as a bit part in The Road. What role do you think he'd work for those that need to be cast?

How about Kiele Sanchez (Nikki Fernandez from Lost) for Melisandre?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0760989/[/QUOTE]


robin wiegert is a damn good actress she was amazing in deadwood fuckin hell id never have guessed she was that hott.
 
I just got to thinking, Tyrion bitch slapped Joffrey earlier in the series, I'm just guessing, but now that Joffrey is king I'm guessing he isn't going to forget that. If anyone who has read the books wants to say it's fine.
 
[quote name='Clak']I just got to thinking, Tyrion bitch slapped Joffrey earlier in the series, I'm just guessing, but now that Joffrey is king I'm guessing he isn't going to forget that. If anyone who has read the books wants to say it's fine.[/QUOTE]

No, he doesn't forget.
 
First bit of Season Two casting news:

We have our Margaery Tyrell: Natalie Dormer

Natalie-Dormer_240.jpg


http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/23/game-of-thrones-casting

She looks a tad old for the part, but then they've advanced everyone's age a bit.

For those unaware of who she is (Major Spoilers):
She marries Renly
And then Joffrey
And then Tommen. :D

Anyway, she's only in Book 2 very briefly, though she has a somewhat larger role later on.
 
[quote name='Clak']I just got to thinking, Tyrion bitch slapped Joffrey earlier in the series, I'm just guessing, but now that Joffrey is king I'm guessing he isn't going to forget that. If anyone who has read the books wants to say it's fine.[/QUOTE]

yeah but tyrion is there under the orders of his father i know joffrey is a big cunt now but hes not dumb enough to piss off his grandfather by trying something.
 
[quote name='DestroVega']I can't wait to see Dormer naked again, looks like she lost a bit of weight. nice![/QUOTE]

I wouldn't mind either, though the opportunity doesn't really present itself the books, though I wouldn't be shocked if they thought up a reason.

For the most part, other than the completely invented character Ros, nudity/sex in the first season of the show was typically straight out of the books. The only examples I can think of which wasn't was Little Theon (again in a scene with Ros) and the Renly/Loras scene. Since Margaery is Loras' sister, maybe they'll add something for her too. :D
 
bvharris, this was listed in one of the comments from the link you posted:

[quote name='EW.com comment']
Dream Game of Thrones Cast
Stannis – James Purefoy (Rome)
Davos – Chris Eccelston (Doctor Who)
Melisandre – Indira Varma (Rome)
Rheagar Targeryan – Tom Welling (Smallville)
Mance Rayder – Michael Sheen[/quote]

Multiple comments about Rufus Sewell as a good choice for Stannis as well.

Rest of the comments are worth looking over as well.
 
Rufus Sewell would be a very good choice, I like him a lot. Ditto Michael Sheen as Mance Rayder, that would actually be perfect. He doesn't actually show up until Book 3 though.

I'd be less thrilled about Indira Varma, I like her but she doesn't really have the right look for that character.
 
Nudity jokes aside, I thought Dormer was excellent in the Tudors and although her death episode was easily the worst of the entire series, the show was sorely lacking after she was gone.
 
[quote name='Clak']
Chris Eccelston is great though, loved him in everything I've seen him do.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Dude is fucking awesome.

Natalie Dormer is a shit choice for Margaery Tyrell.

Margaery is just a young teen. That's what made it so sweet when BOOK 4 SPOILER
the all-powerful Cersei's downfall was at the hand of a little girl she tried to treat like she did Sansa, but the girl's family were sneaky bastards and raised her to already know all the shit that Sansa was a victim of because she lived in a fantasy world.

Nothing against Dormer herself though. She was the absolute highlight of The Tudors on Showtime.
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']Agreed. Dude is fucking awesome.

Natalie Dormer is a shit choice for Margaery Tyrell.

Margaery is just a young teen. That's what made it so sweet when BOOK 4 SPOILER
the all-powerful Cersei's downfall was at the hand of a little girl she tried to treat like she did Sansa, but the girl's family were sneaky bastards and raised her to already know all the shit that Sansa was a victim of because she lived in a fantasy world.

Nothing against Dormer herself though. She was the absolute highlight of The Tudors on Showtime.[/QUOTE]

Everyone is already aged up and Dormer looks younger then she is. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt with almost any casting choice at this point.
 
[quote name='yankeessuck']Everyone is already aged up and Dormer looks younger then she is. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt with almost any casting choice at this point.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Once her hair is dyed and she's in costume, I doubt she'll have any trouble passing.
 
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