Gas Prices down to $1.15?

I can only comment that I know gas shot up bad in this neck of the woods because the main pipeline to Atlanta was the NO one that was partly shutdown.

I do have to agree, however, that energy companies seem to hold all the cards in all aspects. Start-ups that advocate better/less energy use seem to get squashed before the general public hears of anything. In respect, they've made alternate energy vehicles (aside from the energy itself) so cost-prohibitive that the mass market can't afford them (anyone remember the EV-1? I believe there's a movie coming out soon). We're just now starting to get alternate energy vehicles that are somewhat affordable and look unlike a spaceship, but case in point, look at the new 7-Series Hydrogen models: so expensive, you can only lease them.

Where are the higher efficiency gas engines? Why has it taken so long for Hydrogen to come about? I, unfortunately, know exactly who to blame, and it isn't anyone with a protective detail.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']I can only comment that I know gas shot up bad in this neck of the woods because the main pipeline to Atlanta was the NO one that was partly shutdown.[/quote]

I always wondered why gas hit $5+ in GA last year.

I do have to agree, however, that energy companies seem to hold all the cards in all aspects. Start-ups that advocate better/less energy use seem to get squashed before the general public hears of anything. In respect, they've made alternate energy vehicles (aside from the energy itself) so cost-prohibitive that the mass market can't afford them (anyone remember the EV-1? I believe there's a movie coming out soon). We're just now starting to get alternate energy vehicles that are somewhat affordable and look unlike a spaceship, but case in point, look at the new 7-Series Hydrogen models: so expensive, you can only lease them.
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Are you talking about the movie "Who Killed the Electric Car?" It came out recently, but just like any liberal arthouse documentary, in limited release. It'll quietly hit DVD by the holidays, I would gather.

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Killed-El...FU/ref=pd_sbs_d_1/102-8447067-0410532?ie=UTF8

November 14. There you go.

Where are the higher efficiency gas engines? Why has it taken so long for Hydrogen to come about? I, unfortunately, know exactly who to blame, and it isn't anyone with a protective detail.
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Didn't Mercedes-Benz announce that they'd have hydrogen engines on the sales floor for their 2009 models? Er, nm: It's BMW and 2007: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-bmw13sep13,1,4751853.story?coll=la-headlines-business

In the meantime, you can always buy a scooter (owning a Bajaj will get you crazy laid, which is always nice for those who are single); hope you don't like groceries if you own one, however. ;)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I always wondered why gas hit $5+ in GA last year.[/quote]

Well, prices did spike because of the pipelines, but I think it was more of a gouging issue than anything as to why they hit such record highs there
 
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Didn't Mercedes-Benz announce that they'd have hydrogen engines on the sales floor for their 2009 models? Er, nm: It's BMW and 2007: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-bmw13sep13,1,4751853.story?coll=la-headlines-business

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Yeah, I briefly commented on it in one of the paras you quoted.

Gas $5 was the gouging, but you saw a bunch of runs on gas no matter the price due to all the rumors flying rampant. I think average was $3.75 or so for a week, which is unheard of here.

That's the movie I was talking about. Unfortunately, with having two kids I only get so many chances to movie watch outside my house. I usually save those for the blockbusters.




And I resent the implication that if you are the only one in a SUV you are an asshole. I drive an Accord now (2-door) and would love a Cherokee or Grand Cherokee to make it easier to carry my kids around. My kids aren't always with me, so do I fall into the asshole category? Feel free to call him an asshole because he backed in the spot. A H2 is the exact same drivetrain/chassis as a Tahoe, so just because it has the H logo, don't go apeshit over it. They stopped making the H1 Alpha, so be happier.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']And I resent the implication that if you are the only one in a SUV you are an asshole. I drive an Accord now (2-door) and would love a Cherokee or Grand Cherokee to make it easier to carry my kids around. My kids aren't always with me, so do I fall into the asshole category? Feel free to call him an asshole because he backed in the spot. A H2 is the exact same drivetrain/chassis as a Tahoe, so just because it has the H logo, don't go apeshit over it. They stopped making the H1 Alpha, so be happier.[/QUOTE]

There are plenty of vehicles with vastly better MPG than SUVs that are still family-friendly. The Toyota Matrix comes to mind. I think that SUVs are pure image, and that very few people truly need the space they offer. Unless your two children are 6'10" and 400 lbs each, then I don't see why a Cherokee is more practical than a Matrix or a Mazda 6 (least I think it's called a 6). Even the new Volkwagen Rabbit is a family-friendly car (the size of it shocked me when I saw one, since I was only accustomed to the tiny ol' hatchbacks). I've never been convinced of any "I need an SUV" argument, as it's either framed in a "family car" way such that a smaller car could easily replace, or it's a "I lug shit around" argument with which a pickup truck could easily suffice.

I realized, this weekend, after I saw the sticker price ($118 large) and the MPG on a Maserati, however, that poor fuel efficiency isn't limited to those oh-so-popular short busses we call SUVs. OTOH, there are exponentially more H2s and Explorers on the road than Maseratis, so while looks can be deceiving, the stereotype stands firm in the US.
 
You ever see the size of a double stroller? My girls are six months old, and they require damn near a large suitase just for them when we go out of town. I really liked the Protoge 5, but it wouldn't even fit the stroller, much less our luggage. The Matrix is a little better (height-wise) but it's pushing it. And when we have our third child, none of those vehicles would cut it. We'd need to be in a 3rd row seat capable SUV. (Two booster seats and a car seat). If we were to have twins again, we'd damn near need a Cargo Van.

People tend to forget how much room small children take up. In our Jetta everything fits now, but it's tight, and usually we have to leave something at home.
 
If you insist that's the case, that's fine. I don't agree with you, but you're a parent of many and I of none. I do know, however, how much a child, er, "accessorizes," for lack of a better phrase. I hope to be able to avoid that. I think I could do it, but the wife has veto power.

Besides, we plan on having one and adopting one (staggered at least 3-4 years apart), so we won't need anything larger than a sedan.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If you insist that's the case, that's fine. I don't agree with you, but you're a parent of many and I of none. I do know, however, how much a child, er, "accessorizes," for lack of a better phrase. I hope to be able to avoid that. I think I could do it, but the wife has veto power.

Besides, we plan on having one and adopting one (staggered at least 3-4 years apart), so we won't need anything larger than a sedan.[/QUOTE]

Well, let me give you an idea. For one child, we need the following:
-One daytime outfit and one sleeping outfit
--Extra of both incase they mess them up
-At least one (usually 2-3) bib(s)
-Socks (sometimes)
-Diapers - Usually we run about 4-6 a day, pack of wipes, butt paste
-Food - Both 1st foods and formula. That also means spoons, a dish, bottles, powdered formula, powdered rice, and emergency water incase we get stopped somewhere on the highway
-Sunscreen
-Lotion
-Washcloths and soap (they constantly get formula places you'd never imagine)
-Towel

I know I've missed a couple of things, but you get the idea. We have one of the Duo strollers where you can put the carseats directly on the stroller. A lot of people think that's overkill, but with preemie babies and two of them, I couldn't think of any other way. That takes up 60% of the trunk room in our Jetta alone. We can fit a suitcase in there too, but anything else has to go in the leg area of the backseat. If we're gone for more than three days, we have to bring the cat, too (which sits between the girls). With the size of the Jetta, there is absolutely no room to recline the seats more than 5 degrees, which is pretty uncomfortable for a long drive.

I know parents who only have one can do a lot more with that size vehicle, but with multiple births, you need so much more room. I could consider a Passat (which is nice) or a crossover like a HHR (a PT cruiser has no hatch room), but I know if we were to accidentally have another kid, it's game over for that vehicle. I really like the Dodge Caliber, and we might get that. But the second another one comes along, we have to upgrade.
 
2.24 as of last night in Glen burnie, MD. and it dropped 6 cents from yesterday morning which was 2.30. So looks, like it's a steady decline.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']The economy would SOAR if this happened.[/QUOTE]
I've got news for you, it's doing pretty well as it is. Stocks alone don't an economy make, but they are a strong indication. And we've been hovering in the 11,500+ range for a while. That's so nice!!
 
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