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[quote name='Ledhed']God, I miss mine. I had one of the JP S's before I ever even had an Xbox. It was so I could always have an S at Halo LANs. Then, I left it at my dumbass friend's house, and some crackhead stole it. :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:[/QUOTE]

What are the differences? Anything major? I hear nothing but good things about it, so that's good. Hopefully my Best Buy will still have some.
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']Mine
Check it, you play two days a week, Z is gone, and Rock is busy and never plays anyway. This was the only way to organize the tryouts for those of us who were actually conducting the tryouts.

Plus, you're just jealous that I came up with that awesome idea before you did.[/QUOTE]

::puts on jacket, looks at sky::

Storm's a'brewin'...
 
And, really, all gimmicks aside,who the fuck are you? You're Mr. I can't Play During the Week Because my Paw Will Get Mad. Ugamer tried to get an actual procedure on paper and you just shot him down. You didn't say "Hey, this is good but I wish in the future you'd bring things like this to the staff" . There is no staff, everyone is in tranistion,he did what he had to do to make the best out of the current situation. This is more than you ever did as a "staff" member and it's something that's forward thinking and productive, which is what this whole clan is missing.


PM me for more details.
 
I just don't see a need for us to be bringing in complete strangers. Why does it have to be ritualized? Look at how Trakan came in; we spent alot of time playing with him, saw his talent, and asked him to join.

It should be a "Don't call us, we'll call you" kind of thing. If you guys want to play with people and check them out, fine. But this whole "Invite them for a week" thing is making it more complicated then it has to be. Just play with them, and if we all see that there's something to be had there, we'll bring them in. I don't think a week is enough time at all to assess whether someone is right for us or not.

Plus, putting ourselves in the position to have to kick someone is just going to make us seem like assholes. Honestly, out of 10 applicants, hw many do you think we'd keep? One? Two, maybe? That's an %80-90 turnaround. The more it happens, the more people are going to think that they don't even have a shot at getting in and staying in. Then, noone will want to join.

On the other hand, if we stick to the "We'll call you" form (as we did with Trakan), then there's no work involved regarding tracking how long someone's been trying out for; having to eventually kick them if they aren't flowing; yadda-yadda-yadda. It just seems like so much more work than it has to be with the tryout thread. Why don't we just play with people (WITHOUT inviting them into the clan), and decide from there if they work or not?

And Jimmie, Z and I did ALOT of work in the old clan. You may not have seen any of it, but we did. That's part of the reason I like our new clan; there really isn't that much work that needs to be done. You guys are just trying to turn something as simple as assessing whether or not someone can play with us into this overblown bureaucratic process.

So, let's just do it the way we've always done it to this point: just play with people.

Ugamer, I'm not opposed to bringing new people in. I'm just opposed to the way you'd like to have it done. And I know I can't be on as much, but at least I'm keeping in touch here and trying to get a heads-up on what's going on. I can't even remember the last time I spoke to z, so I don't know how much of a shit he gives. And rock is doing what he can.

But, if you guys really have that much of a problem with the way things are going, say it. I'm not talking about the Ryan thing; that appears to have been settled for the most part. I'm talking this kind of stuff, where the Staff's authority and dedication are called into question. If there's any other stuff you guys think should be improved, please say so. Noone is opposed to progress or forward-thinking ideas. But let's discuss them instead of springing them into the open.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']I just don't see a need for us to be bringing in complete strangers. Why does it have to be ritualized? Look at how Trakan came in; we spent alot of time playing with him, saw his talent, and asked him to join.

It should be a "Don't call us, we'll call you" kind of thing. If you guys want to play with people and check them out, fine. But this whole "Invite them for a week" thing is making it more complicated then it has to be. Just play with them, and if we all see that there's something to be had there, we'll bring them in. I don't think a week is enough time at all to assess whether someone is right for us or not.

Plus, putting ourselves in the position to have to kick someone is just going to make us seem like assholes. Honestly, out of 10 applicants, hw many do you think we'd keep? One? Two, maybe? That's an %80-90 turnaround. The more it happens, the more people are going to think that they don't even have a shot at getting in and staying in. Then, noone will want to join.

On the other hand, if we stick to the "We'll call you" form (as we did with Trakan), then there's no work involved regarding tracking how long someone's been trying out for; having to eventually kick them if they aren't flowing; yadda-yadda-yadda. It just seems like so much more work than it has to be with the tryout thread. Why don't we just play with people (WITHOUT inviting them into the clan), and decide from there if they work or not?

And Jimmie, Z and I did ALOT of work in the old clan. You may not have seen any of it, but we did. That's part of the reason I like our new clan; there really isn't that much work that needs to be done. You guys are just trying to turn something as simple as assessing whether or not someone can play with us into this overblown bureaucratic process.

So, let's just do it the way we've always done it to this point: just play with people.

Ugamer, I'm not opposed to bringing new people in. I'm just opposed to the way you'd like to have it done. And I know I can't be on as much, but at least I'm keeping in touch here and trying to get a heads-up on what's going on. I can't even remember the last time I spoke to z, so I don't know how much of a shit he gives. And rock is doing what he can.

But, if you guys really have that much of a problem with the way things are going, say it. I'm not talking about the Ryan thing; that appears to have been settled for the most part. I'm talking this kind of stuff, where the Staff's authority and dedication are called into question. If there's any other stuff you guys think should be improved, please say so. Noone is opposed to progress or forward-thinking ideas. But let's discuss them instead of springing them into the open.[/QUOTE]

So we are not gonna get people into the clan and just let them join the CAG clan and when they get good enough to play with us we just take them? I'm confused but UgamerX plan is A++++++
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']So we are not gonna get people into the clan and just let them join the CAG clan and when they get good enough to play with us we just take them? I'm confused but UgamerX plan is A++++++[/QUOTE]

No, like I said, I like the idea of new blood as much as anyone. I just think ths is an overly complicated way of trying people out. I didn't say they had to be in the other clan first. That just happened to be the case with Trak.

But look at how we got Crymson. He had never even heard of CAG. But 'Kado played Rumble Pit with him one day, and they wound up on eachother's friend's list. He started playing with us, and we saw how much of an asset he was. Before long, he was in the clan and posting on a message board he'd never visited prior.

I'm not saying that Ugamer's plan is bad. It's a great plan; just more complicated than need be. And, I'd rather people didn't just throw out conditions about the clan into public threads without talking it over first. Ugamer is a good guy who speaks his mind, and I can tell he wants this clan to be bigger and better. I just would've appreciated a heads-up on his idea, instead of him putting it out there to be immediately accepted as "the way."
 
[quote name='Ledhed']
And Jimmie, Z and I did ALOT of work in the old clan. You may not have seen any of it, but we did. [/QUOTE]

i bet jimmie did do a lot
 
[quote name='Ledhed']No, like I said, I like the idea of new blood as much as anyone. I just think ths is an overly complicated way of trying people out. I didn't say they had to be in the other clan first. That just happened to be the case with Trak.

But look at how we got Crymson. He had never even heard of CAG. But 'Kado played Rumble Pit with him one day, and they wound up on eachother's friend's list. He started playing with us, and we saw how much of an asset he was. Before long, he was in the clan and posting on a message board he'd never visited prior.

I'm not saying that Ugamer's plan is bad. It's a great plan; just more complicated than need be. And, I'd rather people didn't just throw out conditions about the clan into public threads without talking it over first. Ugamer is a good guy who speaks his mind, and I can tell he wants this clan to be bigger and better. I just would've appreciated a heads-up on his idea, instead of him putting it out there to be immediately accepted as "the way."[/QUOTE]

Its super hard now to find a good player that isnt a total douche bag during random games.
 
[quote name='Murcielago77']i bet jimmie did do a lot[/QUOTE]

My point is, he has no place saying that I'm not doing my part. I won't doubt that he's done his part too, but I don't want someone I respect telling me that I'm not getting it done. I think I'm a nice enough guy, and only get pushy when need be. I do alot around here, and so does z and rock.

[quote name='pimpinc333']Its super hard now to find a good player that isnt a total douche bag during random games.[/QUOTE]

And it's just as hard finding good people amongst random applicants. Which is why I support the "Don't call us, we'll call you" perspective.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']My point is, he has no place saying that I'm not doing my part. I won't doubt that he's done his part too, but I don't want someone I respect telling me that I'm not getting it done. I think I'm a nice enough guy, and only get pushy when need be. I do alot around here, and so does z and rock.



And it's just as hard finding good people amongst random applicants. Which is why I support the "Don't call us, we'll call you" perspective.[/QUOTE]


my point was that i think you put jimmie instead of rock...
 
[quote name='Murcielago77']my point was that i think you put jimmie instead of rock...[/QUOTE]

I see what you were saying now.

No, I was starting the sentence by addressing Jimmie.

"And Jimmie: z and I did ALOT of work..."

The comma made it seem like I put him in the list.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']My point is, he has no place saying that I'm not doing my part. I won't doubt that he's done his part too, but I don't want someone I respect telling me that I'm not getting it done. I think I'm a nice enough guy, and only get pushy when need be. I do alot around here, and so does z and rock.



And it's just as hard finding good people amongst random applicants. Which is why I support the "Don't call us, we'll call you" perspective.[/QUOTE]

That makes it even harder since we prolly will never invite someone we play in a game. I like the try outs and say we take a vote on what the players think.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']That makes it even harder since we prolly will never invite someone we play in a game. I like the try outs and say we take a vote on what the players think.[/QUOTE]

I just think the tryouts is way too much work for very little gain. Let's say we try out 2 people a week. If I'm the least bit correct about the turnaround, that's 5 weeks of trying people out to find *one* person who is *maybe* worthwhile.

But hey, let's put it to a vote. I'll go make a thread for it. It's not gonna be a poll, since I only want CAGtacs voting. Just post in there with what method you prefer.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']Ugamer is a good guy who speaks his mind, and I can tell he wants this clan to be bigger and better. I just would've appreciated a heads-up on his idea, instead of him putting it out there to be immediately accepted as "the way."[/QUOTE]

well said. and i apologize for not being around recently, but i've stated several times that i've been in the process of moving, and internet has been intermittent, nevermind halo. to say i don't play when i had internet is fairly ridiculous - 3+ hours a day is borderline obsessive, nevermind more than casual. i'm not totally against tryouts, i just don't see the point when no one besides myself seems interested in consistently playing clan matches and working on strategy and such again. unless i'm totally wrong, and people just aren't speaking up.
 
[quote name='Murcielago77']I want to do clan matches, but there are some people who REFUSE to play matchmaking with more than 4 people *cough*led*cough*.[/QUOTE]

It's no secret that I don't like BTB stuff. But, rock and I discussed it, and I'm going to spend more time playing BTB; especially so when the new maps release. From what I've seen in the videos, Relic may be the Blood Gulch that we deserve. And Terminal. I mean, whoa. Just, whoa.
 
[quote name='pimpinc333']So we are not gonna get people into the clan and just let them join the CAG clan and when they get good enough to play with us we just take them? I'm confused but UgamerX plan is A++++++[/QUOTE]

I am completely against that type of thinking Pimp. Just because you tell us someone is going to be in our clan, doesn't mean that they will be in it. And I don't see why you guys can't just keep this up, instead of using the CheapAssGamer Clan as a "talent farm". Just my two cents on this issue, as far as it involving my clan and clan members.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']It's no secret that I don't like BTB stuff. [/QUOTE]
I wasnt trying to hide it, i just have a bad cold, thats it.

[quote name='craven_fiend']And I don't see why you guys can't just keep this up, instead of using the CheapAssGamer Clan as a "talent farm".[/QUOTE]
We arent using you guys as a talent farm. THERE IS NO TALENT :lol:

IKIK or am i???
 
[quote name='Ledhed'] But look at how we got Crymson. He had never even heard of CAG. But 'Kado played Rumble Pit with him one day, and they wound up on eachother's friend's list. [/QUOTE]

And they've been lovers ever since

and why the hell am I a peon??
 
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So, we can't get new people via tryouts and we can't keep taking people from cheapassgamer.

So, I guess, that in theory, CAGtac will eventually die out because we have no way of getting new people.

Zoo goes away for two weeks, Ryan is leaving for a month, Led can't play during the week, I don't get on till around midnight but I guess it doesnt really matter much to anybody.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']I am completely against that type of thinking Pimp. Just because you tell us someone is going to be in our clan, doesn't mean that they will be in it. And I don't see why you guys can't just keep this up, instead of using the CheapAssGamer Clan as a "talent farm". Just my two cents on this issue, as far as it involving my clan and clan members.[/QUOTE]


I shoulda threw in some smiley faces because thats my point exactely. We shouldnt be taken people from your clan but my point was thats what others are making it sound like.
 
I just got a phone call from my best friend and old Halo PC partner. I've since moved on to Halo 2, but he still plays Halo PC religiously. Anyways, he calls and says, "Dude, you have to come into this server..."

"Why?" I ask.

"Just get in here."

"Ok, one sec." I jump in, and it looks like our old hangout: 2-Flag CTF Blood Gulch. For us, it was less CTF and more an extended Slayer. We played nothing but this mode for nigh 2 years, and that's just on Halo PC. Tack on another year or so for local LANs and what not.

We know this gametype up, down, in, and out. And Alex was doing us proud. He finished the game with 100 kills, 30 assists, and 15 deaths, amidst rampant accusations of hacking (which is impossible in Halo PC).

Alex is a dying breed: the hardcore Halo 1 player. Many, including myself, have since abandoned our old God, with only fleeting glimpses of it's majesty to remind us of the Before Time.

Cheers to Alex, otherwise known as DVDA, for keeping the scene alive.
 
Alright, so I have 2 three-month cards and my 2 month free trial runs out July 12th. Will they stack if I put them both in now? Also, if I were to put them in today, will it extend my account from July 12th, or today, June 25th? Thanks.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Alright, so I have 2 three-month cards and my 2 month free trial runs out July 12th. Will they stack if I put them both in now? Also, if I were to put them in today, will it extend my account from July 12th, or today, June 25th? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Are you talking about extending your current account? I'm afraid you can't with 2-month trials. If your current one is expiring, you gotta get either a 3-month card, a 12-month card, or pay $50 on your credit card.

And, for future reference, under no circumstance can you stack 2-month trials. You can use a 2-month to start an account, and then extend the account i the ways I said above. But you can't extend it with another 2-month. Sorry dude.

People often times have extra 12-month cards in the trade forum, and you could probably get one for around $35-40.
 
It extends from whenever your current thing ends. Like if you put it in today, it doesnt start until when yours runs out. Also, i could have sworn you had this name longer than 2 months. What was your name back in like, december?
 
[quote name='Murcielago77']It extends from whenever your current thing ends. Like if you put it in today, it doesnt start until when yours runs out. Also, i could have sworn you had this name longer than 2 months. What was your name back in like, december?[/QUOTE]

He used to have "Trakan". Then, that one expired, so had had to make "Trakan1".
 
[quote name='Ledhed']He used to have "Trakan". Then, that one expired, so had had to make "Trakan1".[/QUOTE]

did i ask you, huh punk? did i, no. :lol:

EDIT: After digging up some old games, i relized you were right
 
[quote name='Murcielago77']did i ask you, huh punk? did i, no. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Murc, not remembering Trak's original account, thanks for coming out.
 
[quote name='zewone']You two should stop arguing and get on Halo 2 and play right now.[/QUOTE]

You're right. Thanks for showing us the way.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']Are you talking about extending your current account? I'm afraid you can't with 2-month trials. If your current one is expiring, you gotta get either a 3-month card, a 12-month card, or pay $50 on your credit card.

And, for future reference, under no circumstance can you stack 2-month trials. You can use a 2-month to start an account, and then extend the account i the ways I said above. But you can't extend it with another 2-month. Sorry dude.

People often times have extra 12-month cards in the trade forum, and you could probably get one for around $35-40.[/QUOTE]

I said I had 2 "3 Month Cards" meaning 6 months worth. ;) I was wondering if they'd stack.

And I'll be damned, I checked 2 Blockbusters, Wal-Mart, Target, TRU, BB and CC for a Japanese "S" and I couldn't find one. I just bought a new "S" with some credit from Blockbuster.
 
[quote name='Trakan']I said I had 2 "3 Month Cards" meaning 6 months worth. ;) I was wondering if they'd stack.[/QUOTE]

Oops. :lol: They're *supposed* to stack, but I've been told (more than once) my people from the XB help line that they will NOT stack. So, the best thing to do would be to wait until a couple of days before the account will expire, and then enter ONE code. That way, if it doesn't stack, you lose one or two days at most, instead of losing the period between now and when the account is supposed to expire.

Then, when the new 3 months is going to expire, enter the second code, rinse, repeat...
 
[quote name='Murcielago77']It extends from whenever your current thing ends. Like if you put it in today, it doesnt start until when yours runs out. Also, i could have sworn you had this name longer than 2 months. What was your name back in like, december?[/QUOTE]
It doesn't stack that way...I just renewed my subscription on May 16th...It was set to expire June 8th, however, my new subscription now ends May 16th of 2006.
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']It doesn't stack that way...I just renewed my subscription on May 16th...It was set to expire June 8th, however, my new subscription now ends May 16th of 2006.[/QUOTE]

things might have changed, i dunno. When i started my subscription back in november, i applied my 12 month code like a day later, and it said my next subscription will start on like janurary 29th or something. And i have until next janurary
 
I jumped on to play one game with someone who works at one of the sites I write for, and we get this dude on our team who immediately starts saying shady things. "Do you guys want to gain levels?" "I'm not very good," etc. Then, almost the second the match starts, I hear him begging the other team to kill him. Turns out they're his friends and he's going to sacrifice himself so they can win. What kind of crap is that? I don't understand why people waste their time to that kind of weak shit.
 
[quote name='ViolentLee']I jumped on to play one game with someone who works at one of the sites I write for, and we get this dude on our team who immediately starts saying shady things. "Do you guys want to gain levels?" "I'm not very good," etc. Then, almost the second the match starts, I hear him begging the other team to kill him. Turns out they're his friends and he's going to sacrifice himself so they can win. What kind of crap is that? I don't understand why people waste their time to that kind of weak shit.[/QUOTE]

was it team training? Cus people tend to do taht at times in team training
 
[quote name='Murcielago77']was it team training? Cus people tend to do taht at times in team training[/QUOTE]

Murc, how do you gain levels in team training? Come on.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Murc, how do you gain levels in team training? Come on.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but at the same time, how did the guy knowingly find his friends in matchmaking?
 
[quote name='Ledhed']Yeah, but at the same time, how did the guy knowingly find his friends in matchmaking?[/QUOTE]

thats why im thinking its team training. I mean, you barely ever get matched up with guys you know on the other team, especially if you go into matchmaking alone
 
[quote name='Murcielago77']Easy solution to all of this, Violent, link us to the game if you can[/QUOTE]

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?panel=kills&gameid=222478940&player=Violent Lee

It was in Matchmaking (Team Preview), and it was during what I imagine is a low-traffic time of day, so the chances of getting paired up with your buds is greater -- especially if you coordinate your timing with your buds.

I think the one kill he got was because I kept bitching at him for not trying. He was some prick UK kid.
 
Yeah, when I played at my neighbor's house, we both started the countdown for Rumble Pit at the same time and we ended up playing each other. It's unlikely, but possible.
 
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