General Fighting Game Thread #48 Turbo - !quote 16 ^_^

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[quote name='Pootie Thang']Man is it me or does everyone late night (11 p.m.-2 a.m.) who plays SF IV disconnect when they're losing. fuck this man.[/QUOTE]

On PS3 or 360?
 
[quote name='Pootie Thang']Man is it me or does everyone late night (11 p.m.-2 a.m.) who plays SF IV disconnect when they're losing. fuck this man.[/QUOTE]

I guess I've gotten lucky so far. Played about 250+ games on PSN so far and I haven't had anyone disconnect cause they were getting beat.

Ugh, after playing a couple of matches on PSN just now, I have to agree with kainzero about jump backs. I played this dude's janky Abel and all he did was jump back whenever he would get pressured, or jump back ----> Wheel Kick.

Took me a minute or so when I realized I'd just wait for him to get even more predictable before letting loose.

 
I played a hella buff balrog at a friends place today, dude went 105/25 with the entire room.

Balrog is so gross, his cr jab is disgusting.
 
Woo got my first ever ragequit tonight :)

FP Shoryu
EX Command Throw
FP Shoryu
EX Command Throw
EX Shoryu
Command Throw

*DISCONNECT*

Too funny

I don't mind about the bitching about SFIV on SRK, it's all the new posters making new threads for ANYTHING they want to ask.
 
[quote name='Pootie Thang']Man is it me or does everyone late night (11 p.m.-2 a.m.) who plays SF IV disconnect when they're losing. fuck this man.[/quote]

People that intentionally quit a match should lose 10x as many battle points as they would have otherwise.
 
[quote name='asianxcore']I don't mind about the bitching about SFIV on SRK, it's all the new posters making new threads for ANYTHING they want to ask.[/quote]

This is what I've been wondering...how much longer you think before these "new jacks" move on to the next "flavor of the week"? I mean, KZ2 is out this week....Halo ODST can't be too far away. SF 4 (and fighting games in general) is like a fad right now for a lot of these cats...and I know SRK can't wait for them to be come distracted with something else.:lol:
 
[quote name='Knoxximus']This is what I've been wondering...how much longer you think before these "new jacks" move on to the next "flavor of the week"? I mean, KZ2 is out this week....Halo ODST can't be too far away. SF 4 (and fighting games in general) is like a fad right now for a lot of these cats...and I know SRK can't wait for them to be come distracted with something else.:lol:[/quote]

Halo ODST comes out in Aug./Sept. and it's just a new side mission with the regular Halo 3 multiplayer, except all the Halo 3 map packs are on the disc. There's also 3 new maps.

If you're wanting to get rid of Halo 3 do it now as I see it being traded in droves at Gamestop this summer.

I will have my PS3 hooked back up tonight if someone wants to play. If we do player matches I will use someone besides Ryu.
 
[quote name='Furashu']sorry but whats an EX command throw?[/quote]

A command throw is a special throw that is character specific, such as Honda's Oicho Throw, Abel's Tornado Throw, or Zangief's Spinning Piledriver. An EX command throw is just the EX version of it, executed by pressing two attack buttons instead of one.
 
[quote name='heavyd853']Man, srk has turned into a 7 ring bitch fest about SFIV now.

People need to just stfu and play![/quote]

well, I never...:whistle2:#
 
i got a ragequit yesterday. i lost to some guy twice then i played him again and when i was gonna win he quit. oh well.

i want to learn viper because i'm always a big fan of overly technical and complicated character but i have such a bad grasp of her normals and basics. but goddamn her combos into ultra are nice and do like 3/4 damage and doing things like c.hp - knuckle cancel - c.hp make me feel good inside. but then i lose against 100 bp akuma and lose like, 150 bp and i feel dumb again.

you can tell the good ryus from the bad ones if they do DP - FADC - Ultra. and the bad ones do full screen ultra that you can jump over on reaction.

i really hate how the opponent can cross you up 100% of the time if you're in the corner. some corner it is. also had a huge problem blocking gen's crossup. i don't know why.
 
I haven't been able to play too much, so I haven't gotten used to the General Move Counter->FADC->Ultra. I'm not used to canceling a shoryuken motion with anything other than a Super. I'll need just a little longer to adjust.
 
I think I'm going to main Gouken in SFIV. It's fun using his directional fireballs to nail jumpers, and using his forward rushing punches to go through fireballs. Plus his away throw into super or ultra is sweet as hell too.
 
[quote name='hankmecrankme']I think I'm going to main Gouken in SFIV. It's fun using his directional fireballs to nail jumpers, and using his forward rushing punches to go through fireballs. Plus his away throw into super or ultra is sweet as hell too.[/quote]


gouken is fun but too odd for me to play... he feels like a capcom version of Geese... I don't know why.
 
[quote name='hankmecrankme']I think I'm going to main Gouken in SFIV. It's fun using his directional fireballs to nail jumpers, and using his forward rushing punches to go through fireballs. Plus his away throw into super or ultra is sweet as hell too.[/quote]

Really? Damn, that's awesome, I need to find a list/guide that tells you about all this stuff.
 
[quote name='Knoxximus']This is what I've been wondering...how much longer you think before these "new jacks" move on to the next "flavor of the week"? I mean, KZ2 is out this week....Halo ODST can't be too far away. SF 4 (and fighting games in general) is like a fad right now for a lot of these cats...and I know SRK can't wait for them to be come distracted with something else.:lol:[/QUOTE]

We'll see how long, only time will tell right?

I'm all for new players and I know not everyone wants to get tournament worthy. Thing is about SRK is that it was essentially built for high-level talk/conversation about various fighting games. There are a handful of people there who are very open to explain basic stuff to new members but most of the community there just doesn't care too much. Honestly, I sort of don't blame them.

Among their FADC, mix-up talk there is "I am having trouble with Charge Characters" or "Sagat is cheap he should be banned". Then again we have that talk here and we have a lot of really good players in this thread. I guess we are just a smidge more friendly?

I keep telling myself that everyone has to start somewhere to get better. Then I see random people I play against give up because they are getting stomped on. I see the same people that I am friends with give up because they don't want to practice, or they can't learn to get over a certain match-up. Many new players only getting good enough to beat their friends and then bragging about it. They set the line there.

Shit it's all fun, but it's disheartening to me and sort of what SRK doesn't want.
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']gouken is fun but too odd for me to play... he feels like a capcom version of Geese... I don't know why.[/QUOTE]
Maybe that's why I like him. Geese is my boy.
[quote name='heavyd853']I only wished he yelled DOUBLE HADOUKEN, like geese does with his reppukens![/QUOTE]
Hell yeah. That would be so sweet.
[quote name='distgfx']Really? Damn, that's awesome, I need to find a list/guide that tells you about all this stuff.[/QUOTE]
I found out on accident. Meant to do a fireball to stop one, and ended up getting the rushing punch. I figure out most things just by playing.
 
[quote name='distgfx']Really? Damn, that's awesome, I need to find a list/guide that tells you about all this stuff.[/QUOTE]

I found out by getting hit by one when I was doing a fireball. There's nothing like learning through pain!
 
[quote name='asianxcore']We'll see how long, only time will tell right?

I'm all for new players and I know not everyone wants to get tournament worthy. Thing is about SRK is that it was essentially built for high-level talk/conversation about various fighting games. There are a handful of people there who are very open to explain basic stuff to new members but most of the community there just doesn't care too much. Honestly, I sort of don't blame them.

Among their FADC, mix-up talk there is "I am having trouble with Charge Characters" or "Sagat is cheap he should be banned". Then again we have that talk here and we have a lot of really good players in this thread. I guess we are just a smidge more friendly?

I keep telling myself that everyone has to start somewhere to get better. Then I see random people I play against give up because they are getting stomped on. I see the same people that I am friends with give up because they don't want to practice, or they can't learn to get over a certain match-up. Many new players only getting good enough to beat their friends and then bragging about it. They set the line there.

Shit it's all fun, but it's disheartening to me and sort of what SRK doesn't want.[/quote]

This. You totally read my mind.

To add to what you have stated, I feel that this "segment" is also responsible for keeping quality arcade sticks out of the hands of those who would benefit from them the most, not those who might decide in 2 weeks that fighting games aren't for them and go back to RPG's full time, leaving a barely used HRAP EX or TE stick to gather dust next to the Wii Fit.

Not sayin the example above applies to everybody, but the shoe does fit on occasion. Granted, most hardcores have had themselves a stick already, especially on the PS2/PS3 side of the house. But for 360 owners, short of the typical rebranded Hori EX2's, have been stuck with AIAB or pricey customs. The moment 3 decent sticks hit the market (MC Fight/Tourney Sticks and HRAP EX), no one can get them for a decent price. And it all happened THE WEEK SF4 HIT.:bomb:

I'm all for new blood too...but Street Fighter, like most fighters, is like a religion. You can't just try Chrisitanity this week then jump back to Buddihsm the next.;)

Disclaimer: I've been a member of the Church of Sheng Long and the Latter Day Shotos since '89.:cool:
 
my guess is SRK folk dont wanna deal with a new wave of tourney fighters so they dont wanna help out so they dont have to worry about a new wave ?

or theyre just mean...

i think newbies like myself went there to get help from seasoned tourney players in hopes to get help,
if u look at say.. the madden tourney thats what noobies do too, we find video posts, blogs, forums where really good madden players play at
then learn from the, other wise how else can we figure it out? itd take like 1 month to find 1 break through since we're so new?

everyone on CAG has been very helpful to me and have answered 120% of my questions.
 
i used to play for fun as a kid on SF2Turbo, but just tried to get serious as soon as i got it.....still think i can fair well in the CAG tourney :D
 
[quote name='Furashu']my guess is SRK folk dont wanna deal with a new wave of tourney fighters so they dont wanna help out so they dont have to worry about a new wave ?

or theyre just mean...

i think newbies like myself went there to get help from seasoned tourney players in hopes to get help,
if u look at say.. the madden tourney thats what noobies do too, we find video posts, blogs, forums where really good madden players play at
then learn from the, other wise how else can we figure it out? itd take like 1 month to find 1 break through since we're so new?

everyone on CAG has been very helpful to me and have answered 120% of my questions.[/quote]Nope, it just means that the posters at shoryuken are and always will be elitist dicks
 
[quote name='apokalipze2']Nope, it just means that the posters at shoryuken are and always will be elitist dicks[/quote]
just wanted to euphemise a little :)

anyone wanna help me train to get better... i use blanka....:)
and have a standard madcatz sf4 stick with stock everything.
 
SRK FGD has always been pretty dumb if you venture outside a specific game topic. I'm convinced that most people there like to talk about how they're really badass "tournament players" but I don't recognize most of their names.

The best part about SRK is the regional matchmaking. If you're serious about getting better you can find lots of good competition. Most of the people I've met IRL off of a fighting game forum are pretty nice as long as it looks like you took the time to sharpen skills that can be developed on your own. It ain't even about going to tournaments to prove yourself. Yeah, they're fun but they're not everything, I myself just like to get on the learning curve and improve but being top-flight is out of the question since I no longer want to put in the time to get really good at it.

With youtube you can go and watch how the metagame is already played out, and adjust and adapt accordingly, so unless you have very specific questions then you shouldn't ask them because you can find a lot on your own.

I'm actually gonna try and teach my brother how to play since he seems interested and the only other fighting game we've played is Smash, where we're about even but on the grand scale we're pretty low tier. So we'll see how that goes. I'm also interested in recording videos of me playing online, so I'm gonna go buy a tripod and annotate games on youtube. I have one of me losing really bad at SFHD. =D
 
It's super weird going from Ken to Chun. I really like her, it's just odd playing defensively. Even without knowing how to play her right I've still won a few online just by using pokes, lol.
 
[quote name='Furashu']my guess is SRK folk dont wanna deal with a new wave of tourney fighters so they dont wanna help out so they dont have to worry about a new wave ?
[/QUOTE]

Not that I'm defending SRK, but "worrying" about new blood isn't what it's about.

Elitist or not, everyone on SRK can agree without new blood there is no fighting game scene. My original FG crew I used to roll with fell apart years ago because everyone else stopped practicing frequently, stopped holding get together's and started flaking on each other.

But as the point maybe (as Knox and I mentioned), how many of these new blood fighters will push to get better to beat more than just their friends. Learning the lingo and impressing your friends is one thing, practicing when you don't want to, pushing yourself to get better to get tourney worthy, taking your losses on the chin and sticking with it is what gets you better.

I think the SRK community thinks that a lot of these "n00bs" are not going to be sticking around and we won't be seeing them outside of their rooms, so why bother they ask.

That is without saying there are a lot of people who are helpful on SRK. I have been maining Abel for about 3 months before the console release, and one of SoCal's BEST Abel players "BustaBust" is always open to answer questions about the in's and out's of the character. Hell, there are a lot of helpful/great players on SRK. Funny thing about that forum is that you do have to make sure you don't ask silly questions and don't come off "n00b"-ish.

You can't blame them though. The SRK community is built up of a lot of high level players and it connects a lot of strong scenes together so everyone can get better and crews can communicate.

Not to sound elitist, I'm always open to teach new players (and I have in the past), but sometimes I ask myself why bother when I don't see the players I teach stuff to apply it, get better, try things out on their own (we live in a "how do you this"/"tell me" age for fighters) and learn from experience.
 
just throwing guesses out there... cant judge SRK forum for myself. i ask questions here first since u guys wont go omg noob google it.
 
The thing I'm really liking about chun is how her game is how strong her normals are. It seems like her games is based more on defense than big combos and I really like that.
 
Don't know if I have you Jest on my PSN list but send me an invite if anything if you wanna fight...

found something today I thought would never happen: I played online against another dan... it made me happy someone else used him :)

good and bad is that he really wasn't that good, which made me realize my dan really isn' that bad (my Dan destroyed him to be honest).

I think my real weakness is figuring out what's smart and stupid to do in SFIV, which I still don't totally know. I don't jump in as much as I use to now.
 
I fought a Dan once online and won...but it was exciting because it's Dan!

Edit: Play SFIV Rolento?
 
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I just spammed my combos with Viper :p. TBH I have very little concept of hw to be good at this game. I think I almost did a crossup. Also leared that Thunder Knuckle goes through fireballs, thats cool.

Please keep practicing Chun so I don't have to fight Ken next time ;)


WTF Rero how do you play Dan? I did his challenge mode and the whole time I thought "what the fuck is going on here."
 
[quote name='Jest']I just spammed my combos with Viper :p. TBH I have very little concept of hw to be good at this game. I think I almost did a crossup. Also leared that Thunder Knuckle goes through fireballs, thats cool.

Please keep practicing Chun so I don't have to fight Ken next time ;)


WTF Rero how do you play Dan? I did his challenge mode and the whole time I thought "what the fuck is going on here."[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I didn't know TN could go through fireballs.

Did my standing strong trade with your TN once? If it did, that's something I need to go practice since TN's are a big part of vipers game.
 
Today I unlocked seth and finished all the normal trials.

Man that was really tedious, and I think I only have 7 or so characters done on hard trials.
 
[quote name='suko_32']I don't have you on my friend list and take your time.[/quote]


GGs man, even if I gave you some un needed PMS :lol:

I realized 2 things from our fights:

- I need a stick badly

and

- I shouldn't play fighters on days I'm tired as hell and half asleep... I get pissed off too much.



I was actually not pissed at me losing but the fact that I was constantly making some obvious mistakes with things I was doing... I wanna play again sometime but when I'm rested :lol:

I'd rather lose all my fights when I feel I'm up to snuff than win all my fights and not feel I earned them.

:bomb:

:lol: I need to vent somewhere else >_
 
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