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[quote name='The Crotch']Well, sure, but I don't think that that was what Frost was getting at.
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Yeah, not sure what he was getting at. Just saying it was probably the first story driven game a lot of people played that had a major character die.

I can't think of one I played before that. That said the death didn't bother me as though I liked the game I thought the story was pretty silly--just anime type crap that I never cared for. I was also 20 when I played it in 1998, so that may have lessened the impact some I suppose.
 
[quote name='depascal22']I prefer X over VII even though they are similar solely because of the battle system. That and the graphics are much better.[/QUOTE]FFX was very good. I absolutely loved it, but I still give the edge to FFVII because I prefer the Materia over sphere grid, mini-games were more fun, slightly prefer characters, prefer soundtrack overall, and enjoyed the story a little more. Graphics don't have a single impact as to what FF I like the most.

My ranking goes (this is for the main FF games):
1. Final Fantasy VII (Just the best overall. Only tiny issues I may have, a remake would fix (like using an analog stick would be nice, but there was no analog stick at the time it came out)) - 63+ hours
2. Final Fantasy IX (Slower battle system hurt it a little, but I love its characters too much) - 42+ hours
3. Final Fantasy X (I prefer ATB and hated its mini-games, but still one of my favorites of last gen for sure. Last truly great FF game IMO). - 60+ hours
4. Final Fantasy IV (First FF game I played and beat. Just a bit short) - 23 hours (but beat it many times)
5. Final Fantasy VI (The game is very well done and top notch, but the characters didn't grab me as much as others) - 40 hours
6. Final Fantasy V (My least favorite of the SNES ones, but I still love it) - 38 hours
7. Final Fantasy VIII (If it weren't for a few gameplay issues I have, it would be towards the top). - 37 hours
8. Final Fantasy XII (Not a fan of its direction personally)
9. Final Fantasy III (Too little story although I played it on DS)
10. Final Fantasy II (While some hate its skill system, I still found it a bit better than the first)
11. Final Fantasy I (too little story and is a chore for me to play) - Have no idea, sold my original copy

As for some spin-off games, I'd put FFX-2 above FFXII, and I'd put Crisis Core either above or below FFV. I'll be honest I beat 8 out of 11 on the list (XII, III, and II did not get beat. I beat I since I had it many years ago, and just can't play it now, even the updates).

Still keep in mind that FFVII was NOT the first RPG I played. FFIV was the first one I played. I played a bunch of SNES RPGs like Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, Breath of Fire, etc. before it. It wasn't even my first PS1 RPG, since I played Suikoden, Vandal Hearts, and Beyond The Beyond before it.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Yeah, not sure what he was getting at. Just saying it was probably the first story driven game a lot of people played that had a major character die.[/quote]
Ya never played Chrono Trigger, man?
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Ya never played Chrono Trigger, man?[/QUOTE]

No. I never really liked JRPGs much. All I've ever played and beaten, off the top of my head, are FF1, FF7 and FFX. A few others I played and didn't finish--a couple Dragon Warrior games, FF2, FF-X2, FF8, The World Ends with You etc. etc.

Never got around to much else back in the day, and now I just have zero interest in JRPGs.

I like WRPGs much better, but even those I don't play a ton of as they're just too long and I hate putting so much time into one game on my schedule. I mean Oblivion was the main game I was playing from Sept 2008 through March 2009, other than a month off in Nov. for Gears 2.

I'd generally rather play a few shorter games rather than one long one. With JRPGs I tend to not like the story and I hate turn based, menu-drive combat.
 
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Since everyone else is mentioning thoughts of FF7 , I'll give my short and simple version.

Game was great when it came out , has aged really poorly since. I did cry when Aeris died (was 13/14 at the time). The story seemed to make sense back then , but clearly is jumbled up upon further playthroughs and examinations. It was the game that made me decide to get a PS1 over a N64 , but wasn't the game that really made me glad I got the system. Motorcycle minigame was the best one (although the snowboarding one was alright too).

Advent Children was pretty to look at , but the fights were only decent and the story was ridiculous.

Also , Tellahs death was less of a shock then Aeris's IMO.

Edit: And the Breath of Fire series is WAY too under appreciated.
 
[quote name='tiredfornow']Anybody have a twitter here? Not looking to add, just want to see what kind of stuff everybody posts. :0)[/QUOTE]

twitter.com/taylor_reed
 
Looks like Sony is planning a CE for God of War III. They are asking what we'd like out of the usual items (tshirt, soundtrack, art book, figure, etc etc). GoW1/2 on BluRay is apparently also an option...I still have a physical copy of 2 and I have a BC PS3 and a PS2, so I dunno.
 
[quote name='gunm']Looks like Sony is planning a CE for God of War III. They are asking what we'd like out of the usual items (tshirt, soundtrack, art book, figure, etc etc). GoW1/2 on BluRay is apparently also an option...I still have a physical copy of 2 and I have a BC PS3 and a PS2, so I dunno.[/QUOTE]

I chose GoW1 and GoW2 on Blu-Ray as my highest wants, even though I already have them. =P
 
[quote name='The Crotch']'Cept for IV and V...

Though IV really pussied out on that in the end.[/quote]

They didn't graphically kill the character in a violent cutscene either.

Besides, FFV is garbage. I'm not sure how you played it, unless the FFV:Advance has a much better translation than the Final Fantasy Chronicles or whatever it was on.
 
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I actually just picked up a copy of GoW2 and dusted off my launch PS2. 360 had to go in for a disc drive problem so I decided I needed something I had missed out on the first time to tie me over. Really enjoying it so far. Although my one criticism would be that it inspired so many other games to have you kill the boss through QTEs (I'm looking at you Marvel: Ultimate Alliance and Force Unleashed).
 
Who the hell wants a corny t-shirt/artbook/soundtrack?

Give me GOW 1/2 on Blu-Ray. Where's the chance to vote? My voice must be heard.
 
[quote name='zewone']Who the hell wants a corny t-shirt/artbook/soundtrack?

Give me GOW 1/2 on Blu-Ray. Where's the chance to vote? My voice must be heard.[/QUOTE]

I think it was a unique link via the e-mail.
 
I would only really want GoW 1/2 on BR if they were remastered for true HD. I forget, was it II that had the hidden "HD" option?

Edit: yeah it was II and the mode was more an Enhanced SD rez than a true HD.

Sony, make 'em both 720p and you've got yerself a sold CE! :p
 
[quote name='hankmecrankme']I liked FF12. A lot. I'm alone, I know. :cry: I loved turning my team into automated tools of death.[/quote]
I have fond memories of 12... However most of them involved staring at Frans butt. I always kept her at the back of my party. (>_>) I really should get back to the game some day.
 
[quote name='Chibi_Kaji']I have fond memories of 12... However most of them involved staring at Frans butt. I always kept her at the back of my party. (>_>) I really should get back to the game some day.[/QUOTE]

Fran was always in my party. :drool:
 
[quote name='hankmecrankme']GoW3 with 1 and 2 included would be a killer CE.

I liked FF12. A lot. I'm alone, I know. :cry: I loved turning my team into automated tools of death.[/QUOTE]

I liked FFXII, but the battle system doesn't hold a candle to XI's.

IMO. ;)
 
[quote name='gunm']I would only really want GoW 1/2 on BR if they were remastered for true HD. I forget, was it II that had the hidden "HD" option?

Edit: yeah it was II and the mode was more an Enhanced SD rez than a true HD.
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Yeah since I've been playing it on my 37", I put it into 480p and Widescreen. I went into thinking that it was suddenly going to make everything smooth and up to date.

And then I remembered it was still on the PS2. Jaggies everywhere, but maybe the rendered cuts look a little better?
 
[quote name='The Crotch']I'd take off the GBA-GC cable, as that was actually used in a decent pile of genuinely good games. Whether or not it actually added anything to those games - fuck you, Splinter Cell radar - is something else, but still, it was supported for quite a while.[/quote]
I own the link cable, I liked the link cable, but:
Four Swords
FFCC
Animal Crossing (barely)

Are all the games I can think of that used it.

I liked Advent Children. If you don't like ridiculous "never could happen in real life" action, then yeah, it's not for you.
 
[quote name='corrosivefrost']They didn't graphically kill the character in a violent cutscene either.

Besides, FFV is garbage. I'm not sure how you played it, unless the FFV:Advance has a much better translation than the Final Fantasy Chronicles or whatever it was on.[/QUOTE]FFV was definitely my least favorite out of the SNES FF games. I still enjoyed every little bit I played, and I especially liked the job system. I seriously can't believe I maxed out all my classes too. :cool: I beat the PS1 version within FF Anthology (never beat the GBA version). I thought the translation was all right, but I beat it before I beat many other RPGs (I even beat it before FFVI). I definitely feel its character development was on the weaker side (because I didn't find Bartz to be all that compelling as a main character), but there were memorable moments for me within the storyline.

[quote name='hankmecrankme']GoW3 with 1 and 2 included would be a killer CE.

I liked FF12. A lot. I'm alone, I know. :cry: I loved turning my team into automated tools of death.[/QUOTE]I didn't think 12 was bad, just that I'm not a fan of Matsuno or whatever his name is (I should know). I thought the battle system was fun, it's just that I wasn't a fan of its characters, story didn't really grab me like others, and so on. I bought it around many other RPGs, but I found myself playing the others instead (like Xenosaga Episode III, Tales of the Abyss, .Hack//G.U., etc.). I know many who loved Vagrant Story, and while I acknowledge it being a great game, just didn't suit me. Only games by him I like are the FFT games.
 
[quote name='Luftwaffles08']Yeah since I've been playing it on my 37", I put it into 480p and Widescreen. I went into thinking that it was suddenly going to make everything smooth and up to date.

And then I remembered it was still on the PS2. Jaggies everywhere, but maybe the rendered cuts look a little better?[/quote]

II looked pretty damn fine for a PS2 game when I played on my 42" LCD in 720p. I think I liked using the PS3 upscale and smoothing better than the in game option though.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']FFV was definitely my least favorite out of the SNES FF games. I still enjoyed every little bit I played, and I especially liked the job system. I seriously can't believe I maxed out all my classes too. :cool: I beat the PS1 version within FF Anthology (never beat the GBA version). I thought the translation was all right, but I beat it before I beat many other RPGs (I even beat it before FFVI). I definitely feel its character development was on the weaker side (because I didn't find Bartz to be all that compelling as a main character), but there were memorable moments for me within the storyline. [/quote]

I loathed the job system. Add in the horrid translation of the pirate chick into the FFA PSX disc... and the load times? Simply unplayable.
 
[quote name='corrosivefrost']II looked pretty damn fine for a PS2 game when I played on my 42" LCD in 720p. I think I liked using the PS3 upscale and smoothing better than the in game option though.[/quote]

I'm not saying it was ugly by any means. I mean as a PS2 game, it is pushing the system as far as it can possibly go. The sense of scale that it puts out too in open spaces looks great. I just had to return myself to reality after looking at 360 games for the last few years.

Did the PS3 upscaling make a big difference? I was curious about that even though it isn't relevant to me any more. My plan originally (this is awhile ago) had been to trade in the PS2 when I sprung for the PS3 because of the backwards compatibility. Since I can't get that anymore, I was wondering how BC games looked on the PS3.
 
[quote name='Luftwaffles08']
Did the PS3 upscaling make a big difference? I was curious about that even though it isn't relevant to me any more. My plan originally (this is awhile ago) had been to trade in the PS2 when I sprung for the PS3 because of the backwards compatibility. Since I can't get that anymore, I was wondering how BC games looked on the PS3.[/quote]

Depends on the game, it seems. I've played the following games for extended periods on the PS3: We
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']I loved FFXII, mostly for the great gameplay that needs to be adapted for more RPGs. It was like a single-player version of FFXI's combat system.[/QUOTE]

FFXI may be really difficult and archaic on the whole (the design sucks), but the battle system really kicks ass when you have a party that works.

And it takes a LOT of work to get to that point. That's the main reason I stopped playing.
 
[quote name='pete5883']I own the link cable, I liked the link cable, but:
Four Swords
FFCC
Animal Crossing (barely)

Are all the games I can think of that used it.
[/quote]All the Splinter Cells, Wind Waker, Fire Emblem... lesse... at least one James Bond game... I wanna say Rogue Squadron 3, but I can't quite remember.

And probably the various Pokemon games.

EDIT: Pac-Man VS! Can't forget that one.
EDIT2: Lord of the Rings, Harvest Moon, Sonic Adventures, The Sims, Mario Golf, some football games... Metroid Prime...
[quote name='corrosivefrost']They didn't graphically kill the character in a violent cutscene either.
[/quote]It's been a long time since I played it, but I vaguely recall Phantasy Star IV's big death fitting that description.

And
Gremio
in Suikoden gave me the gibblies, even if it was off screen.

...

*gibbly*
 
[quote name='Mr. Anderson']FFXI may be really difficult and archaic on the whole (the design sucks), but the battle system really kicks ass when you have a party that works.

And it takes a LOT of work to get to that point. That's the main reason I stopped playing.[/quote]
Yeah, it works well with the programmable party AI in FFXII and you don't have to pay $15 a month just for more of that battle system. ;)

Edit: It's only page 203 for me, mak.
 
[quote name='Maklershed']Page 1014 :whee:[/quote]


The juxtaposition of that little guy and Patrick Bateman is perversely awesome.


Also, while I loved the combat in both FFVII and FFX, I would love an option to easily skip summon animations (if this was already done in FFXII, then great. I never played it.). We all complain about hearing the same dialogue over and over in one type of game, but seeing the same cutscene in a JRPG is supposedly eye candy.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']It's been a long time since I played it, but I vaguely recall Phantasy Star IV's big death fitting that description.

And
Gremio
in Suikoden gave me the gibblies, even if it was off screen.
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Never played either of those games. And I played a lot of RPGs in my teens... though I tended to stick to Squaresoft games...
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Weak. Super weak. Suikoden's death was fantastically done. Even though I knew it would hurt me in the end, I still beheaded the guy responsible.[/QUOTE]
That death was well done, but the death in Suikoden 2 was even sadder for me.
 
Punch-Out on Fallon tonight.
I guess I'll watch.

I don't know who Morgan Webb is though, she's a video game expert.
Sounds familiar I think..
 
You think Webb is a video game expert? BWAHAHAHA

Also, I think I'm secretly trying to kill my 360. Why? Going for 1999 rounds in Gears 2 and IF, repeat, IF I can make it through 1 playthrough in Dead Rising I might go for 7-day survivor, aka a 14-hour marathon with no saving.

The problem is that I can't get through Dead Rising :( they spawn the Clown boss before the gun fight boss which means I face the Clown with a Golf club, a bowling ball and a purse :(
 
I wouldn't question Morgan Webb's game cred. She knows more than most of the yahoos that these talk shows bring in to speak about gaming.
 
They had a decent discussion about games. Better than games usually get on mainstream shows.

She mentioned Phantasy Star 3, and Combat, so that was nice.
 
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