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I read the 3 hunger games books over the past week. They're nice, quick reads. Nothing substantial but fun.

I've gotten through the first 2 SoIaF books. They're good reads, but I fear each new book won't have much payoff (as noted above).

[quote name='panzerfaust']craving a book right now myself, maybe i'll pick up one by hitchens -- poor guy died a couple weeks ago =[

or just get myself reacquainted with the hobbit :cool:[/QUOTE]

The hobbit is a good read. I place it above the LOTR trilogy. Bring it, nerds!
 
The third book in the SoIaF series is my favorite. I think books 4 and 5 are still excellent, but they do have a bit too many characters in comparison to the first 3 books. I think the next book is supposed to go back to normal though.
 
[quote name='BlueScrote']
I've gotten through the first 2 SoIaF books. They're good reads, but I fear each new book won't have much payoff (as noted above).[/quote]

The third one is the best so far, and has the best "holy shit!" moment in the series so far. As I said, the 4th and 5th are good reads, but meander away from the main plot a lot. Still great reads though.

The hobbit is a good read. I place it above the LOTR trilogy. Bring it, nerds!
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I like it, but I like LOTR a ton more. I don't like the narration style of writing used in the Hobbit very much. Love the story, just don't dig the writing much.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']The third one is the best so far, and has the best "holy shit!" moment in the series so far. As I said, the 4th and 5th are good reads, but meander away from the main plot a lot. Still great reads though.[/QUOTE]

I don't think the 4th and 5th books necessarily strayed from the main plot so much as they were setting up for major things to happen in the books to come.

As for the third book, there's obviously the one big event, but even the other stuff that happened in that book were still enough to make it stand out above the rest.
 
[quote name='Indignate']:whistle2:k[/QUOTE]

[quote name='gunm']:whistle2:s[/QUOTE]
What they meant is, you apply for the job, then if they want you, you apply more in depth and take it one step further.

fucking retarded, I know. Dude that works there told me about it.
 
[quote name='ihadFG']I don't think the 4th and 5th books necessarily strayed from the main plot so much as they were setting up for major things to happen in the books to come.

As for the third book, there's obviously the one big event, but even the other stuff that happened in that book were still enough to make it stand out above the rest.[/QUOTE]

Agreed on the third book, it's just the best as a whole.

Agree to disagree on the 4th and 5th unless proven wrong later. But some of it seems pointless since some of the side characters
like Quentyn didn't survive
.

Mine main gripe is that the book/story was really already verging on being too big with too many characters and factions to keep track off. And the last two books made that worst by expanding the Dornish and Iron Islands stuff.

But in any case, they were definitely set up books and thus disappointing since so much happens in the first three books. And then with these two you have like 1,800 pages of basically just setting up things for books 6 and 7 with very little progress made in the main plot.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']How many books will there be when the whole series is finished? (I own the first two but haven't read either yet)[/QUOTE]

7.

Though Martin recently said he wasn't ruling out an 8th if he couldn't wrap up the story in 7. Hopefully he hurries up as he's in his 60s and obese!

Hopefully the HBO series puts some pressure on him. He can't spend 5 years between books like with 4 and 5, or the TV show will pass him up. Suppose he could just outline the plot for the screen writers even if the books aren't done though.
 
[quote name='Indignate']What if they're considering making you the Guitar Master?

I'm assuming that's a position there.[/QUOTE]

The problem with that is
I don't play guitar.
 
[quote name='ihadFG']I don't think the 4th and 5th books necessarily strayed from the main plot so much as they were setting up for major things to happen in the books to come.

As for the third book, there's obviously the one big event, but even the other stuff that happened in that book were still enough to make it stand out above the rest.[/QUOTE]

I had a friend who said that every book except the first two sucked... He read them all. Is that true?

Also, fuck you for not responding to my texts :(
 
[quote name='linkpwns']I had a friend who said that every book except the first two sucked... He read them all. Is that true?

Also, fuck you for not responding to my texts :([/QUOTE]

ihadFG and I both already said the third book is the best.....including him in the post you quoted.

4th and 5th are also far from sucking. Just not nearly as good as the first 3 books. But few books I've read are.....
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']ihadFG and I both already said the third book is the best.....including him in the post you quoted.

4th and 5th are also far from sucking. Just not nearly as good as the first 3 books. But few books I've read are.....[/QUOTE]

This friend is also typically unreasonably opinionated. Hence my apprehension to believe what he said anyway :p
I need to get around to reading it someday.
 
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[quote name='dmaul1114']
Agree to disagree on the 4th and 5th unless proven wrong later. But some of it seems pointless since some of the side characters
like Quentyn didn't survive
.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I was just speculating, but I could see the Dornish sublots playing a larger role in the books to come, and
Quentin's death could still play a part in that.

[quote name='dmaul1114']
Mine main gripe is that the book/story was really already verging on being too big with too many characters and factions to keep track off. And the last two books made that worst by expanding the Dornish and Iron Islands stuff.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I agree with you completely on that. I suppose I'm just hoping that it was all done for a reason, and that it everything will come together in those regards.

[quote name='linkpwns']This friend is also typically unreasonably opinionated. Hence my apprehension to believe what he said anyway :p
I need to get around to reading it someday.[/QUOTE]
You're friend is being unreasonable if he thinks the third Song of Ice and Fire book was bad. It's pretty widely considered as the high point in the series. The fourth book is where Martin changed the format and people starting disliking things.
 
[quote name='BlueScrote']
The hobbit is a good read. I place it above the LOTR trilogy. Bring it, nerds![/QUOTE]

I've never read it, but the trailer for the movie makes it look like a kids version of LoTR.
 
I'm sure The Hobbit movie will go down as "that one LOTR film where there wasn't a helms deep" among the people who have never read the books.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']I'm sure The Hobbit movie will go down as "that one LOTR film where there wasn't a helms deep" among the people who have never read the books.[/QUOTE]

The battle of five armies at the end should be even more epic than Helm's Deep!

[quote name='whoknows']The problem with the LoTR books is that they're boring.[/QUOTE]

Nonsense! :D

But I like descriptive books personally. I've never had much of a visual imagination, so I like when books describe things in a lot of detail.

I've also been a fan of history, and read history books semi-often, so I love all the detailed history the world has.
 
[quote name='gunm']Good thing we have movies to make books not boring.[/QUOTE]

Comments like that from you young whipper snappers is why I weep for the future of humanity!

Now get the hell off my lawn! :D
 
Yo Panzerfaust, what's your avatar from?

[quote name='gunm']Good thing we have movies to make books not boring.[/QUOTE]

I think part of me just died inside.
 
Fellowship is still my favorite of the movies. The flight to the ford chase is like my favorite scene in film. The wraiths were so perfect :drool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHJDhPVpI1s&feature=related

And The Hobbit was probably the most enjoyable book to me. It's about an adventure, plain and simple, within a really amazing world.

[quote name='ihadFG']Yo Panzerfaust, what's your avatar from?[/QUOTE]

Bakemonogatari

The female lead is very funny.
 
Just goes to show that great special effects are what makes a movie good.

Which explains why independent movies are usually awful.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Just goes to show that great special effects are what makes a movie good.

Which explains why independent movies are usually awful.[/QUOTE]

Ack! That comment is going to bring this special effect to reality for me!

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Hope y'all are just kidding. I'm already rapidly losing any confidence in the future of art/culture with how most people, especially the younger crowd, seem only interested in mindless entertainment as they all have the attention spans of a gnat!

Nothing wrong with mindless entertainment mind you--I'm going to watch Aliens here in a bit myself. But people should make an effort to challenge themselves with art at times at least. I'm always trying to mix in documentaries and indie films with my popcorn flicks, non-fiction and classics with my pop fiction or fantasy novels etc.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']The third one is the best so far, and has the best "holy shit!" moment in the series so far. As I said, the 4th and 5th are good reads, but meander away from the main plot a lot. Still great reads though.



I like it, but I like LOTR a ton more. I don't like the narration style of writing used in the Hobbit very much. Love the story, just don't dig the writing much.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='ihadFG']I don't think the 4th and 5th books necessarily strayed from the main plot so much as they were setting up for major things to happen in the books to come.

As for the third book, there's obviously the one big event, but even the other stuff that happened in that book were still enough to make it stand out above the rest.[/QUOTE]

Interesting, I had heard that the 3rd book didn't compare to the first two. Maybe I'll start that next.


So Sonic Generations is kind of good.
 
I'm not a movie critic but aren't the Alien movies considered pretty, well, up there? Calling it mindless is a bit demeaning. It's not exactly Transformers 2.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']I'm not a movie critic but aren't the Alien movies considered pretty, well, up there? Calling it mindless is a bit demeaning. It's not exactly Transformers 2.[/QUOTE]

I'd say Alien is pretty artsy for a horror film. But Aliens is more of a popcorn flick. It's a very well made one, but it isn't the same kind of movie, and it has much more mass appeal, especially to today's audiences. The third one has more artistic aspirations, but it doesn't really achieve them (although the spruced up workprint version is pretty good). Alien Resurrection is just silly (but I enjoy it anyway :lol:).
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']I'm not a movie critic but aren't the Alien movies considered pretty, well, up there? Calling it mindless is a bit demeaning. It's not exactly Transformers 2.[/QUOTE]

Alien I'd consider a damn good film (just watched it a couple nights ago), and pretty artsy for a horror film as ihadFG noted. The second one, Aliens, which I was referring to--and I do enjoy a lot--but it is just a cheezy 80s action flick.

It's not Transformers 2, but it's not an artsy movie either. Just a great action flick, nothing special in the acting department etc. And its definitely mindless as it's not like it requires much attention span or is in any way though provoking etc. :D

Nothing wrong with being mindless, many of my favorite movies are of the "turn off your brain and be entertained" variety. I just think it's important to make some effort to develop your intellect and challenge yourself with though provoking things from time to time at least.

Mindless movies are like junk food. They tend to be the most entertaining (like junk food tastes best), but other things are better for you.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']

Nothing wrong with mindless entertainment mind you--I'm going to watch Aliens here in a bit myself. But people should make an effort to challenge themselves with art at times at least. I'm always trying to mix in documentaries and indie films with my popcorn flicks, non-fiction and classics with my pop fiction or fantasy novels etc.[/QUOTE]

My problem with independent movies is that they're far too often artsy fartsy pretentious bs.

Few are actually good, but when it comes to independent/foreign/low budget movies people always give them free points they don't deserve.
 
[quote name='whoknows']My problem with independent movies is that they're far to often artsy fartsy pretentious bs.

Few are actually good, but when it comes to independent/foreign/low budget movies people always give them free points they don't deserve.[/QUOTE]

I think that's more just the stereotypical view of them. And to be fair, a lot of the ones that get a lot of press are often a bit on the pretentious side.

But I guess whether something is pretentious or not is subjective as well. When a lot of my friends/acquaintances call something pretentious, it's just something they dislike as it goes against their worldview.

I think that stereotype is totally non-applicable to foreign films, as foreign films covers every genre from popcorn action films to comedies to dramas to foreign indie films. Only difference is being set in another country and being in a foreign language.
 
Ah I see, I wasn't too familiar with the second film.

Aside from that example then, I still think visually invigorating films are worth artistic praise. When I see something that's just a "popcorn" flick, it comes off very much as white noise to me. But when you see actually well structured choreography, interesting camera angles, engaging premise, etc... then I think the movie is much more than a mindless past time. I liked Kill Bill a lot, which could be considered a popcorn flick -- but it sits with you for a very long time as compared to a Transformers.

In terms of style vs substance, it's not a one over the other kind of deal. You can't have style without substance, which is actually a quote from Deadmau5 that I'd agree with :applause:

Another example, Avatar -- I'd consider a popcorn flick. It was almost something great, but Cameron had to put a cliche story, cheap humor, and boring characters over what could of been a really beautiful film. Because of all those short comings, you're only impressed by the technology, but the world he puts in front of you doesn't resonate with any sort of emotion. It's basically giving a kid a bunch of money to make a CGI representation of some random planet he day dreamed of. How could that be considered style? Why the hell did that take him so long to think of? Some generic wildlife sprinkled with Disney filler?
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I think that's more just the stereotypical view of them. And to be fair, a lot of the ones that get a lot of press are often a bit on the pretentious side.

But I guess whether something is pretentious or not is subjective as well. When a lot of my friends/acquaintances call something pretentious, it's just something they dislike as it goes against their worldview.[/QUOTE]

I say it from my personal experiences of what I've seen. I can't stand when a movie is artsy just to be artsy with no meaning behind it.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']Ah I see, I wasn't too familiar with the second film.

Aside from that example then, I still think visually invigorating films are worth artistic praise. When I see something that's just a "popcorn" flick, it comes off very much as white noise to me. But when you see actually well structured choreography, interesting camera angles, engaging premise, etc... then I think the movie is much more than a mindless past time. I liked Kill Bill a lot, which could be considered a popcorn flick -- but it sits with you for a very long time as compared to a Transformers.

In terms of style vs substance, it's not a one over the other kind of deal. You can't have style without substance, which is actually a quote from Deadmau5 that I'd agree with :applause:[/QUOTE]

Agreed on all of that.

To give you context, Aliens is a James Cameron directed action movie. So it's super well done, but its not more artsy than Terminator 2 or Avatar (though I think it's a better movie than both of those).

Anyway, I'm going to shut up and go watch it now! :D

[quote name='whoknows']I say it from my personal experiences of what I've seen. I can't stand when a movie is artsy just to be artsy with no meaning behind it.[/QUOTE]

I can't either, and I don't think most area. And that's still subjective. Who's to say whether there was no meaning beyond it, or that you or I just missed the meaning in that particular case? No piece of art is going to connect with everyone.
 
Today's been busy as fuck. As for LOTR, I prefer the Hobbit out of the books and Two Towers is my favorite of the movies.

I prefer books over e-books for the reason that Josh stated, too.

Also, Mikey... fuckING TELL ME ABOUT THIS CHICK!
 
Also my fondest memory of the LOTR movies is seeing Return of the King in the theater and having to piss so fucking bad at the end. I just wanted Frodo to hurry the fuck up and get on that fucking boat.

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[quote name='hankmecrankme']Also my fondest memory of the LOTR movies is seeing Return of the King in the theater and having to piss so fucking bad at the end. I just wanted Frodo to hurry the fuck up and get on that fucking boat.

[/spoiler][/QUOTE]
Huh.

Exact same thing happened to me. That last half hour, god damn.
 
[quote name='gunm']No words. Only pics.[/QUOTE]You can't get anything if you don't Skype.

[quote name='hankmecrankme']Yes.[/QUOTE]
He'll probably hook us up tomorrow night. That's when he told me that he'll actually talk about this.

[quote name='The Crotch']Huh.

Exact same thing happened to me. That last half hour, god damn.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, me too. I also had to take a huge shit and was crazy prairie dogging for the last 15 minutes.
 
Hahaha, gunm. Joel loves me, so I'm an exception to his rule. :p

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I'm trying to remember the hobbit book... haven't read it since 7th grade... I liked it at the time, but overall, i think it would pale in comparison to the overall story of the LOTR trilogy for me.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Agreed on all of that.

To give you context, Aliens is a James Cameron directed action movie. So it's super well done, but its not more artsy than Terminator 2 or Avatar (though I think it's a better movie than both of those).[/QUOTE]

I love me some Aliens, but better than Terminator 2?
 
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