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[quote name='distgfx']I thought ME1 was terrible, now I don't even want to touch my installed copy of Alpha Protocol that Hank tricked me into buying.[/QUOTE]

What about Gothic 2 Gold? I heard that's one of your favorites. :bouncy:
 
[quote name='hankmecrankme']What about Gothic 2 Gold? I heard that's one of your favorites. :bouncy:[/QUOTE]

If only there was a way to gift him hours played.
 
[quote name='whoknows']I thought AP was better than ME1...and I did play it before ME1 actually. I just didn't find ME1 to be a very good game.

ME2 on the other hand is a great game.[/QUOTE] I loved ME1, almost more than ME2. ALpha Protocol isn't horrible, but it's not ME1.

[quote name='distgfx']I thought ME1 was terrible, now I don't even want to touch my installed copy of Alpha Protocol that Hank tricked me into buying.[/QUOTE]
Alpha Protocol really isn't that bad.
 
[quote name='hankmecrankme']What about Gothic 2 Gold? I heard that's one of your favorites. :bouncy:[/QUOTE]

[quote name='ihadFG']If only there was a way to gift him hours played.[/QUOTE]

You two are devious assholes who exist solely to piss me off, using my most hated genre.
 
[quote name='CaptainJoel']I loved ME1, almost more than ME2. ALpha Protocol isn't horrible, but it's not ME1.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I would have needed to play ME1 back when it came out, but as of when I played it back in August I think nothing about it really seemed above average to me.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Maybe I would have needed to play ME1 back when it came out, but as of when I played it back in August I think nothing about it really seemed above average to me.[/QUOTE]
That could probably be it, I played the shit out of ME1 the month it came out. I borrowed it from a friend and kept it for 2 months. Ended up replaying it 4 times by the time I gave it back to him (twice with my male Shep, twice with my fem Shep).
 
I played through ME1 when it came out and once was enough for me. Not that I didn't like it, but there was definitely a lot about it I didn't want to do again. I think ME2 took all the stuff I liked about ME1 and then also fixed all the stuff I didn't like. The only downside was the main story in ME2 wasn't as good as ME1.
 
I strongly prefer the first Mass Effect over the 2nd, but I also recognize it as an incredibly flawed game.

Like, that shit had no business getting the praise it did. I'm surprised there aren't big investigations done by gaming news sites into how stuff like that happens.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']I strongly prefer the first Mass Effect over the 2nd, but I also recognize it as an incredibly flawed game.

Like, that shit had no business getting the praise it did. I'm surprised there aren't big investigations done by gaming news sites into how stuff like that happens.[/QUOTE]

I don't need an investigation to tell me that hype influences reviewers just as much as it influences average gamers. And it's not like the game was bad for it's time. It did a lot of new things with the the WRPG genre.
 
I think the story deserves the praise it got and more. :) I loved it, too much, perhaps.

Man, just cleaned out my text inbox for the first time in 3 days and I have 938 texts. ARRRRGHHH
 
[quote name='Chacrana']I don't understand why people think Mass Effect's plot was good.

The plot was: "there's aliens."

I didn't even simplify it.[/QUOTE]


I've never found the main plot in the Mass Effect games to be anything special, but I did think the first one was above average. And definitely more complicated than "there's aliens." Just the fact that your decisions can lead to a few of your squadmates dying was pretty novel at the time for a mainstream game.
 
[quote name='ihadFG']I don't need an investigation to tell me that hype influences reviewers just as much as it influences average gamers. And it's not like the game was bad for it's time. It did a lot of new things with the the WRPG genre.[/QUOTE]

It wasn't bad at all, I'm just saying it shouldn't be considered a top tier RPG.

I think it's an incredibly interesting issue, at least something worth reading about.
 
[quote name='ihadFG']I've never found the main plot in the Mass Effect games to be anything special, but I did think the first one was above average. And definitely more complicated than "there's aliens." Just the fact that your decisions can lead to a few of your squadmates dying was pretty novel at the time for a mainstream game.[/QUOTE]

Eh, I suppose, but the bigger problem with the plot is that it didn't do a good job of making you care about any of it. Like, the part where you can kill a squadmate... I was just like "well, I didn't really like you, so whatevs," and then the game devotes all of ten seconds to that scene before basically never mentioning them again. WTF.

I actually do quite like the ME games, but I feel like Bioware is an incompetent storyteller.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']It wasn't bad at all, I'm just saying it shouldn't be considered a top tier RPG.

I think it's an incredibly interesting issue, at least something worth reading about.[/QUOTE]

I think the biggest reason is probably that you don't want to be "wrong" when you review a major game. If a game is being hyped the hell up, you basically have to give it a high score. Black Ops could be and really... is... a terrible game, but it'll get high scores because reviewers fear the reprisal that'll ensue if you're the only guy giving it a shitty score. At least, that's my experience from when I was writing for 1up.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']Eh, I suppose, but the bigger problem with the plot is that it didn't do a good job of making you care about any of it. Like, the part where you can kill a squadmate... I was just like "well, I didn't really like you, so whatevs," and then the game devotes all of ten seconds to that scene before basically never mentioning them again. WTF.

I actually do quite like the ME games, but I feel like Bioware is an incompetent storyteller.[/QUOTE]
My squadmate death was more like, "fuck! Why did I say Kaiden could fucking do that? WHY WON'T YOU fuckERS KILL ASHLEY?"

Then I re-did it and felt great.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']Eh, I suppose, but the bigger problem with the plot is that it didn't do a good job of making you care about any of it. Like, the part where you can kill a squadmate... I was just like "well, I didn't really like you, so whatevs," and then the game devotes all of ten seconds to that scene before basically never mentioning them again. WTF.

I actually do quite like the ME games, but I feel like Bioware is an incompetent storyteller.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much how I felt about the story. I mean overall the story was a good story, Bioware just didn't do a good job telling it.

As far as the gameplay goes...pretty meh IMO. The shooting was not very good at all and the cover system never felt right.

Oh and the Mako parts were terrible.
 
I can't even remember the names of those two party members, which basically reflects Bioware's character writing as of late. They were two interchangeable shells of nothingness specifically made just so the player could go through the choice of letting one die. Not sure if that's something to be proud of Bioware for attempting, or if we should see it as the shallow gimmick it was.

Tali and Garrus were good though. And Mass Effect 2 had some better characters. I just feel like it's all so artificial though. Like, oh, hello new character. Oh I see you have a very clearly defined personality right off the bat. Oh and here is when we go on a mission and find out that you have a sensitive side. Next.

Garrus and Tali felt more natural, and I recall Moridin being fun.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Pretty much how I felt about the story. I mean overall the story was a good story, Bioware just didn't do a good job telling it.

As far as the gameplay goes...pretty meh IMO. The shooting was not very good at all and the cover system never felt right.

Oh and the Mako parts were terrible.[/QUOTE]

I think the PC version played a LOT better for the first game. There was more parity in the sequel, though.
 
The saving grace of the combat was the game's shaky camera -- that shit was too cool. I was really sad to see ME2 make it so much more stable.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']I think the PC version played a LOT better for the first game. There was more parity in the sequel, though.[/QUOTE]

Never played the PC version.

Did that version have the late loading textures or did it fix that too?

On Xbox ME1 just didn't feel like a finished game.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Never played the PC version.

Did that version have the late loading textures or did it fix that too?

On Xbox ME1 just didn't feel like a finished game.[/QUOTE]

I don't remember any texture loading issues. But yeah, it honestly feels like a different game.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']I actually do quite like the ME games, but I feel like Bioware is an incompetent storyteller.[/QUOTE]
Agreed completely.

Mass Effect 1 and 2 are the only Bioware games I even like.

[quote name='distgfx']You two are devious assholes who exist solely to piss me off, using my most hated genre.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']I can't even remember the names of those two party members, which basically reflects Bioware's character writing as of late. They were two interchangeable shells of nothingness specifically made just so the player could go through the choice of letting one die. Not sure if that's something to be proud of Bioware for attempting, or if we should see it as the shallow gimmick it was.

Tali and Garrus were good though. And Mass Effect 2 had some better characters. I just feel like it's all so artificial though. Like, oh, hello new character. Oh I see you have a very clearly defined personality right off the bat. Oh and here is when we go on a mission and find out that you have a sensitive side. Next.

Garrus and Tali felt more natural, and I recall Moridin being fun.[/QUOTE]


I completely disagree about Bioware's character writing being poor. I think the problem is they tend to really focus on making about half the characters well-defined, but then they throw in a few more characters without really putting too much care into them. And on top of that, the only characters you will really come to know are the ones in your party. So for instance, trying to avoid Wrex dying in ME1 was more important to me because I had him in my party the whole game. But even with Kaiden and Ashley, I would hardly say they were interchangeable and their deaths meant nothing to me. I actually quite liked Kaiden, but couldn't stand Ashley. I was glad to see her go. Additionally, I think that DA2 is their first game that I've played where I actually find every single main party member to be pretty well-defined and interesting. There isn't even one character that I was like "Oh, well this is one of the boring throwaway ones." So I feel like their games are becoming more and more character driven as of late, which is something I strongly prefer.
 
Another problem:

Bioware's character designs suck.

When they drew up the design doc for Mass Effect, I'm pretty sure the description for Kaiden was: "man."
 
[quote name='Chacrana']Another problem:

Bioware's character designs suck.

When they drew up the design doc for Mass Effect, I'm pretty sure the description for Kaiden was: "man."[/QUOTE]

Once again I feel like they put a lot of attention on certain characters, and then completely neglect others. Garrus, for instance, looks awesome in my opinion, but then Ashley just looks extremely plain.
 
[quote name='ihadFG']Once again I feel like they put a lot of attention on certain characters, and then completely neglect others. Garrus, for instance, looks awesome in my opinion, but then Ashley just looks extremely plain.[/QUOTE]
I 100% agree with you on this. It's like they're telling you who is important based on design.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']I don't remember any texture loading issues. But yeah, it honestly feels like a different game.[/QUOTE]

Apparently in the microsoft offices while they were testing the game before release it would crash like every 5 minutes. Everyone called it crash effect until like a month before release when they finally fixed it.


So yeah, seems like the game went from a complete clusterfuck to absolute mess in terms of stuff that was gross
 
[quote name='CaptainJoel']I 100% agree with you on this. It's like they're telling you who is important based on design.[/QUOTE]

So Ashley isn't important because she's plain in a "girl next door" kind of way?
Sure.

--

uraizen -- is it time for Gothic?
 
[quote name='corrosivefrost']So Ashley isn't important because she's plain in a "girl next door" kind of way?
Sure.
[/QUOTE]
I meant, "important to you".

I never cared about Ashley because she was plain (more like a PLAIN BITCH! Ohhhh!) and a complete jerk, Garrus though, was nice, fit my sentiments exactly, and looked badass. Wrex was pretty much the same.

If I was split down the middle and made into two different ME1 characters, they'd be Garrus and Wrex.

I don't know how anyone could agree with anything Ashley had to say. Not even my evil-ass Renegade character could allign herself with the hateful alien hating sentiments of that bitch.
 
[quote name='CaptainJoel']I could never kill Liara. I want to have fucked up halfbreed kids and shit.[/QUOTE]

You might actually have that opportunity in a very real way.
 
[quote name='distgfx']Yes. We are one.[/QUOTE]

I knew it. You two always seemed to be so much alike. With the same tastes in everything.
 
[quote name='whoknows']I knew it. You two always seemed to be so much alike. With the same tastes in everything.[/QUOTE]

WE ARE RENDERED THE SUPERIOR! Ya'llz sum foo'z fo bulivin' mee fo soo loung.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']uraizen, go fuck yourself. You aren't me, and you can never be me even though you obviously want to.[/QUOTE]

shut the fuck up, chac, I'm going to send hank over to drop that plasma of yours off the roof onto your car. then I think I'll go and break your new lamp by tossing your new monitor at it while I defecate on your J360. after that's all done, I'll go give stalker chick your number and tell her you want to do something with her ass using a smirnoff bottle.
 
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