[quote name='mykevermin']Now, punk rock? That's a whole other story. Despite my music collection, I'm totally sour on punk rock right now as a meaningful genre. Could be that I listed to "Stations of the Crass" for the first time in roughly 8 years yesterday, and found the album to be as poignant as the first time I heard it. Could just be that I'm bitter.
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You're just bitter. As much as I enjoyed my time with Hardcore, I have to say after awhile it gets real old listening to kids who don't know a

ing thing about anything bitching, preaching and pontificating like they had all the answers in the book. It does get old. I mean, hell, at least it was funny when the straight-edgers and the skins would mix it up.....
I believe Lemmy said it best: Punk was being angry and Politcal...Metal was being angry just for

s sake
Could be that I'm waiting for the next big rebellion to occur, and really anticipating what it's going to look like. I don't think filthy 60's hippies and liberals could have seen the punk rebellion of the following decades, and both subcultures are 100% underwritten and commodified by the capitalist interests. Due to capitalist acquisition and market saturation, a kid in stretch jeans with a bullet belt and blue hair just ain't dangerous anymore, y'know? It's passe.
Hate to break it to you, but white folks ain't dangerous anymore...now we're all afraid of guys in turbans wearing balaclavas.....your average white guy with a guitar and a mohawk is just putting on a uniform to say "Hey, lookit me!".
Mohawks and longhairs do not intimidation make anymore.
Way OT, and that seems to be my m.o. for this thread, but I'm looking forward to the next wave of rebellious subculture. I hope the music is good, because kids these days have squandered the current political climate. The Reagan years were perfect for punk rock and hardcore (and metal, in the case of Megadeth and others); I'm amazed that the Bush years haven't been thrown back in the same style.
They have, the problem is back then you had three outlets for music:
1) The local college station that might play some of this stuff
2) The odd show on late night cable that broke acts that MTV would never even put on their radar (Night Flight on USA Network, other regional shows like New Wave Theatre in LA)
3) The local "Scene"..word of mouth....
Today....man you get four guys together in their basement with a

ing Mac and next thing you know they've got some gay MySpace page, they've got an online store to order their Hoodies and T-Shirts......its instant over-exposure and commercialisim.
Plus...I'm at the age where I'm not interested in what some 17 year old angry dude has to bitch about. Homework? STFU. Your girlfriend left you? STFU. You don't like the war? Gee you think? STFU..
The punk I wanna hear is the punk that tells 17 year old kids who are trying to start up bands to STFU cuz nobody cares...and its all been said before by better bands
The Ultimate Punk Song = Silence. Now thats punk.
OH yeah...hip hop? Hip Hop is the new Disco. Its Urban Pop music that has run its course and is now just feeding on itself until something else comes along. The problem is that HipHop Culture apparrantly doesn't have anything else to offer right now, so Hip Hop is it. You wont see the homies rushing out to pick up JPop CD's.......so we'll get the endless stream of "I come from da Streez, I gots a platinum grill and I roll on 22's" copycat artists.
Which I always found laughable..I mean...I dunno who really thinks the smart move when you get out of the ghetto and make it big as a rap star is to buy platinum

in teeth
But musically? Whats the message........same old shit. I mean, nobody wants to hear people sing about their grocery bill, or the size of the lobster they had for dinner (well, unless you're Weird Al cuz thats the kind of fodder he excels at)....so what are we left with? The same messages over and over. The Punks scream and play 3 chord guitar, the homies put hydraulic shocks on their cars and talk over beats they stole from the guy whos album came out the month before......metal keeps singing about Evil and Death and Satan and old Camaros......and the world keeps on turning.
Just pray to

ing christ the next "rebellious" youth movement doesn't involve any more metrosexual guys and girls with acoustic guitars, or the return of the dreaded 4-man a-capella group.
