Groupees: [NEW] Build a Greenlight Bundle 33 + Oktoberfest + MiniBundle 7

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Build A Greenlight Bundle 33

Buy it here: https://groupees.com/bagb33

Must spend at least $1/pick 2 games

Gamelist:


Oktoberfest Bundle

Buy it here: https://groupees.com/oktoberfest

For the minimum of $2, you get the following:

Mini Bundle 7

Buy it here: https://groupees.com/mini7

For a minimum of $2, you get the following:


Other Non-Gaming Bundles:


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= Steam Greenlight
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= Desura Key
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= GoG Code (Click To Redeem/Enter Code)

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= GamersGate Serial Key
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= DRM Free Download

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= Playable On PC
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[quote name='Detruire']Yes.[/QUOTE]

My Profile (top right of page) >>>>> Increase Payment (slightly below "My Profile")
 
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I'm listening to the fairy freesia OST and I must say it's great for anyone that loves japanese anime techno music. It is very reminiscent of the DDP SDOJ soundtrack that I've recently come across.
 
[quote name='Eldredpe']Radical Roach is the next bonus goal.[/QUOTE]

Yuck! I hope that we don't hit that goal. I hate roaches. I sure as hell don't wanna play as one.

It's a pointless hope though. They could suddenly hit a brick wall in terms of sales and they'd only drop the unlock level. All but the final bonus is guaranteed to be unlocked in any Groupees bundle.

[quote name='spoderman']Apparently the Paranautical Activity devs aren't very nice. Saw this post over at SPUF.. they remind of Phil Fish.[/QUOTE]

Obviously these guys have conducted themselves in a fairly unprofessional manner. But I'd just like to point out that I was reading the chat while this all happened, and their outburst was precipitated by some guy in the chat who was being a complete A-Hole to them. You'd like to think that they could have risen above that, but it wasn't exactly a one-way street.
 
[quote name='The End']Yuck! I hope that we don't hit that goal. I hate roaches. I sure as hell don't wanna play as one.

It's a pointless hope though. They could suddenly hit a brick wall in terms of sales and they'd only drop the unlock level. All but the final bonus is guaranteed to be unlocked in any Groupees bundle.



Obviously these guys have conducted themselves in a fairly unprofessional manner. But I'd just like to point out that I was reading the chat while this all happened, and their outburst was precipitated by some guy in the chat who was being a complete A-Hole to them. You'd like to think that they could have risen above that, but it wasn't exactly a one-way street.[/QUOTE]

I read the whole conversation between James and the devs. James was agressive with his opinions for the game, but I think he was just being blunt.. not trying to be offensive. I don't think he was being a total ass, but I think his aggressive tone is part of why the devs responded so harshly. In this situation, I think it's really down to the devs to communicate better. They're going to receive harsh criticism sometimes.. it's an indie game.. what do they expect? Anyway, tannsersarms from SPUF combined most of the convo so that it's easier to read here:

James Anderson: i had no idea paranautical activity was going to be so hard
(Someone else in chat): apparently if you hit first level with the crossbow, you should restart at least according to an RPS writeup
Guncraft game designer: hey
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(A second someone else in chat): Are you related with this game any way?
Guncraft game designer: yep, executive producer & lead game designer
Mike Maulbeck: thats a fluffy position
Guncraft game designer: I like to back all the groupees bundles
Travis Pfenning: too fluffy. lol*
MM: right?
James Anderson: that's what's annoying about Paranautical activity. the weapon it gives you at the start is random and it massively affects how difficult the game will be
James Anderson: also it's too hard anyway
Travis Pfenning: can i have that position the future, for code avarice
Mike Maulbeck: no >_>
Someone else: yeah paranautical is very hard
JA: like you can lose all your health in like one second- there's no invulnerable period after taking a hit
TP: Dont be scared James
TP: it might just take you some skill
JA: it doesn't make me want to get better at it though
MM: if you suck at using a weapon, you're gonna have a hard time
shocking
TP: you are a minority
JA: random weapon each time is a terrible idea
TP: ohh really
MM: the rooms are procedural, so are the guns
TP: Mike, he said your idea was bad, lol*
MM: thats just how it works
JA: there's procedural and there's random. two different things. random is bad
MM: ill get back to you when im done counting my stacks of money
TP: we could give you a pistol and good luck*
MM: lol. start off with brass knuckles
TP: start off with a tissue hahahhahaa
JA: it's like all the people who like the game seem to think that it's good that it's hard and if someone thinks it's too hard they are a wuss or lack skill but it's not hard for the right reasons. it's not hard in the right way
TP: if you take the time to paly it
MM: its a totally fair game
JA: look at REAL roguelike games for an example
TP: you will be fine
JA: it's not fair. give the player the same weapon each time then it's fair
MM: every time you take damage, it's your fault. thats the right kind of hard. making it random doesnt make it unfair. thats ****ing idiotic
JA: how rude
MM: oh joy theres a profanity filter
JA: a shame there isn't a filter to hide rude people all together
TP: dude you are telling us that our game is unfit for your skill
MM: shame there isnt a filter to hide people who dont know jack about game design
JA: i'm a developer.
TP: sorry to hear that. >_> *
MM: that doesnt mean you know what youre talking about
JA: why don't you stop being so rude. maybe you should hire some PR people if this is how you interact with your customers*
MM: some people just suck at videogames
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2nd Random Chat participant: I too make games, but i don't act like I know everything about games and the industry. just tossing that in
MM: congrats
JA: i was personally attacked
TP: you criticized on 5 mintues of game play
JA: some people think obviously that it's ok to attack people personally with insults when their game is being cricicised
TP: who insulted you
JA: 5 minutes? where do you get this figure from
MM: youre too easily offended ma'am
JA: travis, the other dev, he said what i said was " idiotic"
TP: ohh did I? I didnt say that
JA: i didn't say you did, travis
TP: MIke did, and he said how idiotic
JA: i said the other dev
TP: he is a bit toughy lately.. touchy*
JA: see, i'll never buy another one of your games now. maybe you don't care
MM: haha
Someone in chat trying to move things along: Lets move topic swiftly on from this mess XD Hand up whos excited for Fairy Bloom Freesia!!!
MM: that one sale! We've missed out on it! what will we do!?!?
TP: I cant paly the game for **** .. James.. but when i spenmt time on it, I got better
JA: but if you are rude to everyone all the time you will start to get a name
TP: the idea is to get items.. to make those guns more usable
MM: I didnt get into game dev to prance around other peoples feelings
TP: you just dont understand that is the design
MM: I speak my mind, and when people talk ****, I tear em down
Chat Random: Travis, no melee weapons?
TP: you can use the trident as Melee
JA: i do understand that is the design. i don't think it's a good design. if you can't take that criticism without resorting to personal abuse hurled at your customers, you shouldn't be in this chat
MM: and the sickle is mele as well
TP: if you cant respect design, and leave your opinion in your pocket, you shouldn't be here either

JA: i'm supposed to never criticise a game ? that's ridiculous
TP: you judged it
MM: You can criticize, but dont call it bad design. Because it's not
JA: yeah and? it is bad design*
TP: not criticised
JA: it's a joke that you are calling paranautical activity a roguelike. it is nothing like a roguelike
MM: it just isnt. Saying random generation and variant difficulty is bad desing is just wrong
TP: and that is why we want to attack you right there. whats your address, im gonna send you some tissues
JA: do you know the difference between procedural design and random design or am i wasting my time? i heard the devs of PA were like this from someone else. seems they were right*
MM: haha. PA devs dont take ****. myth confirmed

The complete convo is also here, but a bit harder to read:

http://pastebin.com/NsHExSFr
 
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I stand corrected. I obviously missed a good bit of that conversation. I came in about 75% of the way in. I didn't realized that it had gone on for that long.

Those guys (the devs) are complete asses.
 
[quote name='Blade']Given the context--your love life--I did not need to know this. At all. Burn the yiffy from my retinas (no puns, please).

Also, looks like someone hasn't seen So I Married An Axe Murderer...[/QUOTE]


Ticking, jeez you have a filthy mind. This is a *family* oriented forum.

Edit: And that was a Front 242 track from their 05:22:09:12 Off album.
 
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New hint for one of the mystery games from Shifty:

"So to give you an idea on if the mystery game would be worth it, if you have to buy the first one on steam it would set you back around $30"

Meaning it's a Steam game.
 
[quote name='spoderman']New hint for one of the mystery games from Shifty:

"So to give you an idea on if the mystery game would be worth it, if you have to buy the first one on steam it would set you back around $30"

Meaning it's a Steam game.[/QUOTE]


And possibly not an indie game. (I'm having a hard time of thinking of indie games at the $30 mark on steam.)
 
[quote name='asheskitty']And possibly not an indie game. (I'm having a hard time of thinking of indie games at the $30 mark on steam.)[/QUOTE]

Also a game that's old without a price drop of the first one is still 30
 
[quote name='The End']Hmm, Dare I hope for Endless Space?[/QUOTE]


That thought crossed my mind as, "hmm" ...but I didn't want to be accused later of crushing the hopes and dreams of CAGs everywhere.
 
[quote name='The End']Hmm, Dare I hope for Endless Space?

EDIT: Oh wait, it's Lords Of Football. Remember the Ole' hint?[/QUOTE]

I'd probably never play it, but at least I got a laugh out of this metacritic quote.

If Molyneux's Bullfrog had pulled an all night coding session while watching re-runs of Eurotrash, this is probably the football management sim they would’ve made.
 
[quote name='The End']Hmm, Dare I hope for Endless Space?

EDIT: Oh wait, it's Lords Of Football. Remember the Ole' hint?[/QUOTE]

Hm.. Lords of Football doesn't match either of the stick figure video hints though. Where do swords or guns come into play? lol.

I also thought the Ole hint was meant for blood bowl, someone said it was for slam bolt scrappers but I'm not sure how that'd fit.
 
The stick-figure videos are hints? I just thought they were placeholders put up there because somebody at Groupees thought they were funny.
 
[quote name='spoderman']Hm.. Lords of Football doesn't match either of the stick figure video hints though. Where do swords or guns come into play? lol.

I also thought the Ole hint was meant for blood bowl, someone said it was for slam bolt scrappers but I'm not sure how that'd fit.[/QUOTE]

And isn't it part of a series or a sequel? "If you have to buy the first one on steam" meaning this would be a sequel or part of a series?
 
[quote name='The End']The stick-figure videos are hints? I just thought they were placeholders put up there because somebody at Groupees thought they were funny.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they're hints. I dunno how accurate they are as hints, but they're definitely hints.

[quote name='Drabelincoln']And isn't it part of a series or a sequel? "If you have to buy the first one on steam" meaning this would be a sequel or part of a series?[/QUOTE]

I thought that as well at first, but after rereading it a couple times.. It seems like he meant the first mystery game.. not the first game in the series, just poorly worded. It could mean what you're saying though, Shifty's english isn't perfect.
 
[quote name='Drabelincoln']And isn't it part of a series or a sequel? "If you have to buy the first one on steam" meaning this would be a sequel or part of a series?[/QUOTE]

I took "the first one" to mean the first game that will be unlocked. Not that it was the first in a series of games.
 
[quote name='Drabelincoln']And isn't it part of a series or a sequel? "If you have to buy the first one on steam" meaning this would be a sequel or part of a series?[/QUOTE]


Wording wasn't clear on that so I ignored it and went for the solid information "$30 on steam".

What spoder & End said.
 
I may've figured out the first mystery game. Blades of Time Limited Edition.

They said one of the games in Be Mine 8 was bundled before by a lesser known bundle company.. and it'll have more content than it did in the previous bundle. Blades of Time regular edition was in the first Mac App Deals bundle.
 
[quote name='The End']I took "the first one" to mean the first game that will be unlocked. Not that it was the first in a series of games.[/QUOTE]

Well that makes more sense. Lords of football seems like a good bet
 
[quote name='Drabelincoln']Well that makes more sense. Lords of football seems like a good bet[/QUOTE]

Lords of Football has nothing to do with guns or swords though.. I don't think it's that.
 
[quote name='spoderman']I may've figured out the first mystery game. Blades of Time Limited Edition.

They said one of the games in Be Mine 8 was bundled before by a lesser known bundle company.. and it'll have more content than it did in the previous bundle. Blades of Time regular edition was in the first Mac App Deals bundle.[/QUOTE]


This thinking seems sound. It might not be right, but it seems quite reasonable. BoT features integrated sword and gun play (not quite as tight as DMC1, but closer than most else).

iirc, the Mac App Deals was the base not the Ltd Ed.
 
[quote name='spoderman']Lords of Football has nothing to do with guns or swords though.. I don't think it's that.[/QUOTE]


It doesn't have soccer fans? :lol:
 
[quote name='spoderman']I may've figured out the first mystery game. Blades of Time Limited Edition.

They said one of the games in Be Mine 8 was bundled before by a lesser known bundle company.. and it'll have more content than it did in the previous bundle. Blades of Time regular edition was in the first Mac App Deals bundle.[/QUOTE]

*sigh* :whistle2:x
 
[quote name='Detruire']*sigh* :whistle2:x[/QUOTE]


BoT is quite a good and fun game. I look forward to playing it again in hard mode. Well worth the $11.24 I paid for in on the Summer Sale.

X-Blades on the other hand is not bad, just not that good. Yes, I completed both.
 
I think he's sighing because he already has it, or got it from the Mac App Deals bundle ;)

Don't blame me if my guess is right, though! It just seems highly likely lol.
 
[quote name='spoderman']I think he's sighing because he already has it, or got it from the Mac App Deals bundle ;)

Don't blame me if my guess is right, though! It just seems highly likely lol.[/QUOTE]


Now he'll get a gift copy... still far better than the disappointing HIB bonus.
 
[quote name='spoderman']Don't blame me if my guess is right, though! It just seems highly likely lol.[/QUOTE]

I think Johnny & Shifty throw out random hints, monitor what Spoder guesses, and then go and bundle those games.

Edit: Or Spoder is Shifty without the grandma glasses?
 
[quote name='asheskitty']Now he'll get a gift copy... still far better than the disappointing HIB bonus.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather get nothing than yet another extra copy of a game that I already own... especially one that I bought outside of a bundle (or one that I bought a bundle specifically for.)

At least BoT has multiplayer/co-op, I guess. Maybe I'll get lucky and one of my friends will be interested in it (better not get my hopes up.)
 
[quote name='asheskitty']I'd rather get an extra copy of a good game over some poor match-3 clone with cruddy faux 8-bit graphics.[/QUOTE]

If it's one that I know I can easily sell off, or give to a friend who's interested in it - I agree. Otherwise, I'd rather +1 my game count than have an extra useless key sitting around.
 
I got it from GamersGate a long time ago when it had a price mistake, so I can understand how you feel. I don't regret buying it though, since I actually finished the game and liked it.
 
BM8 has passed 8,000 bundles (now ~8,600) so RADical ROACH has been added as a bonus.

Next bonus is music by "The Autumn Film Collection" at 10,000.
 
So one of the Paranautical Activity devs said that the first mystery game will have swords and a female main character. Not really an official hint, but that leaves no doubt in my mind that it'll be Blades of Time Limited Edition.

I guess I'll be trading it then.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Hmmm, I have an extra copy of X-Blades I am trying to sell off. Maybe the combo will make it easier. Unless the bonus content is worth it.[/QUOTE]

Shame on you for selling that atrocity.
 
[quote name='The End']Hmm, Dare I hope for Endless Space?

EDIT: Oh wait, it's Lords Of Football. Remember the Ole' hint?[/QUOTE]

The Ole hint was most likely Slam Bolt Scrappers because of the slight luchadorish theme.
 
[quote name='Detruire']Yes.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='M_F_A_H']My Profile (top right of page) >>>>> Increase Payment (slightly below "My Profile")[/QUOTE]

Thanks!
 
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