Guitar Hero II - General Disscusion - Indie Pack #2 - 3 Songs Up Now

Pretty cool topic over on the XBOX.com forums, where some posters have looked at the leaderboards for the DLC songs to see roughly how many users have posted scores on the new songs. The theory is that the number of scores on the leaderboard roughly equates to the number of songs sold. They showed 9,000 downloads on day one and another 4,000 on day two. Given that a song like Surrender has over 200,000 entries on the leader board this works out to about 6.5% of the install base. The debate is raging over whether this equates to a succesful launch for the DLC or was it a failure. Pretty clever way of getting numbers for this. I would have thought they would be targeting more like 20-25% take rate on this, whihc would be very high for DLC, but I think that GH songs would be DLC that people who do not normally buy DLC would be interested in. Any thoughts?
 
Finally spotted an X-Plorer at Target, wasn't priced $49.99 as someone mentioned on eariler posts...might have to wait till BB has it and get it with RZ points or atleast a GGC.
 
[quote name='prayformojo']Pretty cool topic over on the XBOX.com forums, where some posters have looked at the leaderboards for the DLC songs to see roughly how many users have posted scores on the new songs. The theory is that the number of scores on the leaderboard roughly equates to the number of songs sold. They showed 9,000 downloads on day one and another 4,000 on day two. Given that a song like Surrender has over 200,000 entries on the leader board this works out to about 6.5% of the install base. The debate is raging over whether this equates to a succesful launch for the DLC or was it a failure. Pretty clever way of getting numbers for this. I would have thought they would be targeting more like 20-25% take rate on this, whihc would be very high for DLC, but I think that GH songs would be DLC that people who do not normally buy DLC would be interested in. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
The penetration rate should actually be a good bit lower than that. 200,000 for Surrender should be the number of people that bought Guitar Hero II and have Xbox Live (Silver or Gold). I think it would be reasonable to expect that almost everyone that downloaded the DLC has posted a score - the only exceptions should be people that only have temporary Internet connections and people that haven't beaten the songs on any difficulty.

What's the Xbox Live penetration rate? 50, 60%? For an expensive game like GHII, maybe it's 75%. So if you factor in Xbox Live penetration and bring the GHII install base up to 265,000 (~200,000 / .75), the DLC penetration falls below 5%. Of course, those extra people probably aren't potential customers anyway... but down with price gouging.


Downloadable content was one of the reasons I bought GHII again in the first place, so I’m fairly peeved at the pricing structure. Hopefully they’ll just release the pack of 9 for 1,000 points (but more likely 1,200). The fact that I have the points actually kind of sucks, because I’m forced to rely on my morals and personal conviction to not buy these things. And that’s just not going to last.
 
[quote name='mr ryles']Just know the score you need is over 80,000 for 5 stars. I just kept playing it and knowing I would screw up I saved my star power for the parts I was good at to rack up the most points. And just winged it and hoped to get the harder parts.[/QUOTE]

85,000 points later, still no 5 stars. :(
 
[quote name='shipwreck']85,000 points later, still no 5 stars. :([/QUOTE]

maybe it is in the high 80,000's

My high score on it is 89,000 so you must be very close.
 
So after the DLC fiasco I decided to fire up the PS2 GH .
Much to my embarrassment I only completed 2 songs .:hot:

WTF was I playing on the 360 that stole me away from GH ?:bomb:

I have no idea but it must have been pretty good .:applause:

Forget buying the GH songs for 360 , unless they can come up with good song packs that allow for further Gamerscore to be earned for realistic pricing .

I think they're trying to establish song pricing for all music games now and they overestimated what people would pay .

Don't forget GH3 & Rockband are coming down the pipeline soon .
I'm sure they don't want to price content too low now , and screw themselves later by setting a precident .

I'm not defending the prices , I'm just trying to figure things out .
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Finally spotted an X-Plorer at Target, wasn't priced $49.99 as someone mentioned on eariler posts...might have to wait till BB has it and get it with RZ points or atleast a GGC.[/QUOTE]

It wasn't 49.99? I'll have to look into this when I'm at the mall tomorrow... I know they USED to have a price tag at 49.99, but I haven't checked in some time.

And I'm considering picking one up myself once I can find one, but after this DLC fiasco, I'm hesitant to give Activision any more GHII money.
 
[quote name='King']An update was released today that should fix all your messed up whammy bars.[/quote]An update to fix a physical problem with a controller?
 
It wasn't the guitar in most cases, a quote from the GH II forums...

'The code in question (which has been around since GH1) waits until the whammy bar has returned to a rest position between notes before activating it for the next note. Otherwise, if you held the whammy bar down forever, the detune would kick in at the beginning of every sustained note and it would sound terrible. As people have noticed, some of the shipping Xbox 360 guitars have trouble consistently returning 100% of the way to the rest position, so I loosened up the test for the patch.'
 
Hmm, interesting. I've not had any issues with my guitar that 've noticed, but will be interesting to see if this smooths anything out.
 
[quote name='Callandor']It wasn't 49.99? I'll have to look into this when I'm at the mall tomorrow... I know they USED to have a price tag at 49.99, but I haven't checked in some time.

And I'm considering picking one up myself once I can find one, but after this DLC fiasco, I'm hesitant to give Activision any more GHII money.[/QUOTE]

Target does not have system wide pricing. They will often advertise different prices for different markets, even if it's only off by a penny or two. This is why some people are finding VP for $20, while others still ring at $50.
 
[quote name='daroga']Hmm, interesting. I've not had any issues with my guitar that 've noticed, but will be interesting to see if this smooths anything out.[/QUOTE]

I definitely noticed a difference. My whammy bar is much more responsive now. I immediately was able to give five stars on Psychobilly Freakout after the update.
 
[quote name='shipwreck']I definitely noticed a difference. My whammy bar is much more responsive now. I immediately was able to give five stars on Psychobilly Freakout after the update.[/QUOTE]
not I, im bangin away on it right now, its driving me nuts. tjose few parts completely whoop my ass.
 
Well, put some more time into the game this afternoon. I'm into the 7th set on medium on getting 5 stars. Psychobilly Freakout may end my quest to 5 star medium. Good heavens. The Trooper give me fits at time too, but at least I really like that song. I wonder how many hours I've put into this game already.

Jordan is a fun one of the unlockables. Just 5 starred that one on Medium on my first try. Not super hard, but a cool song I think.
 
[quote name='daroga']Well, put some more time into the game this
Jordan is a fun one of the unlockables. Just 5 starred that one on Medium on my first try. Not super hard, but a cool song I think.[/quote]

lol, wait till you try this song on expert. It'll whoop your ass
 
[quote name='elsnow77']lol, wait till you try this song on expert. It'll whoop your ass[/quote]Yeah, I'm not sure I'm ever going to make it to anything on expert, ever. ;)

I've dabbled in hard a bit and the 5th fret blows my mind. I've opted to "master" hard first before I try again.
 
So am I missing something here or is the whammy bar ONLY good for getting star power on a star note?

I think it should give you extra points to use it on any long note, but apparently it doesn't?
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']So am I missing something here or is the whammy bar ONLY good for getting star power on a star note?

I think it should give you extra points to use it on any long note, but apparently it doesn't?[/quote]

I like it how it is. Imagine how annoying it would be to have to whammy every single long note you ran into.
 
[quote name='SpecTrE3353']I like it how it is. Imagine how annoying it would be to have to whammy every single long note you ran into.[/QUOTE]

Well, I wouldn't think of it as a "Have to". I would think of it as something you could do for a few extra points.

As it is, it seems very few long notes have star power, so the whammy bar goes unused most of every song.
 
I'm almost about hang this game up. Last 4 songs are just impossible for me on hard. Even practicing it on SLOW kicks my ass....
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Well, I wouldn't think of it as a "Have to". I would think of it as something you could do for a few extra points.

As it is, it seems very few long notes have star power, so the whammy bar goes unused most of every song.[/quote]

When you get to higher difficulty levels you'll run into lots of situations where star power notes can be whammied. Theres one song that has a 3 note star power chord at the beginning that you can fill up an entire bar with but I forget which.
 
[quote name='FaintDeftone']Anybody notice that activating star power seems a bit faster now too after the patch? I'm getting much better scores now.[/quote]

Yes, the whole game seems more responsive after the update.
 
[quote name='daroga']Well, put some more time into the game this afternoon. I'm into the 7th set on medium on getting 5 stars. Psychobilly Freakout may end my quest to 5 star medium. Good heavens. The Trooper give me fits at time too, but at least I really like that song. I wonder how many hours I've put into this game already.

Jordan is a fun one of the unlockables. Just 5 starred that one on Medium on my first try. Not super hard, but a cool song I think.[/QUOTE]
yea, i like jordan too, just a fun song.
my other favorites are less talk more rock and the shadows fall song.
 
[quote name='elsnow77']lol, wait till you try this song on expert. It'll whoop your ass[/QUOTE]


QFMFT.

Jordan is 9 kinds of an ass kicker, and one of the only 2 songs I've yet to beat on Expert. My best attempt has been 54% before I fail, which is right in the middle of the Solo.



OF DEATH.
 
[quote name='Logain8955']QFMFT.

Jordan is 9 kinds of an ass kicker, and one of the only 2 songs I've yet to beat on Expert. My best attempt has been 54% before I fail, which is right in the middle of the Solo.



OF DEATH.[/QUOTE]

Six?

Me too.
 
am I the only perons in the world who thinks that Cherry Pie is probably the worst song ever?



Oh and coca cola, LAST NIGHT I AWOKE WITH THE ANSWER SO QUICKLY!

recognize those lyrics?
 
[quote name='Maynard']am I the only perons in the world who thinks that Cherry Pie is probably the worst song ever?

[/QUOTE]

No you are not , and it's stuck in my head because of this game .
Just be glad it's not White Lion 'Wait' or some other really gay metal song of that calibur .

Nice avatar BTW .;)
 
[quote name='CokeCola']Six?

Me too.[/QUOTE]


Ha! Dead on, my friend.


I'm sure once I can get through the opener of Six, that it'll fall a lot easier than Jordan ever will.

Still, for now, I'm closer to beating Jordan than Six :)
 
i almost picked it up at best buy today but noticed they only had the 55 model which i read is one of the defective ones..

are there no other models? did they not recall the fucked up ones?

i got a bb coupon for 10% off for next weekend.. maybe it will work on this
 
[quote name='Maynard']am I the only perons in the world who thinks that Cherry Pie is probably the worst song ever?[/quote]

I was so relieved when I 5-starred it on Expert...if I do go for the 5-star achievement some day...I'll never have to play that song again.
 
[quote name='Lupine, from the Guitar Hero forums']

So here's what 9500+ signatures look like:

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3522/signaturesbs4.jpg

This copy is going to:

RedOctane
Mr. Kai Huang
President
955 Benecia Ave
Sunnyvale, CA, 94085
USA

Keep in mind that this is with .12 inch margins and 7pt Verdana font. Roughly 54.5 signatures per page.

Mr Huang,

You will either be receiving 176 pages of scratch paper or a valuable piece of feedback from your fans. It all depends on how you treat it.
I hope you take the time to read the comments people provided.

Good Day Sir,

Lupine

[/quote]

This dude from the forum.guitarherogame.com boards put all of those together and is sending them to the president of RO. Hopefully, it'll get something actually going.

Maybe it'll be the first time ever that an internet petition works.
 
Oh shit cakes.


The Update that fixed the Wahmmy Bar issue is now bricking systems. There's a lot of reports going on the xbox.com forums, and the guitarherogame forums.

http://www.gamingexcellence.com/xbox360/news/1488.shtml
http://forums.xbox.com/ShowPost.aspx?PageIndex=3&PostID=11717177
http://www.destructoid.com/red-octane-fixes-whammy-bar-ruins-everything-else-30996.phtml


Anyone who has not installed the update, leave it be.

As for me, as soon as I read this, I pulled GH2 from my system, put it back in its case, and was thankful that this didn't bork my system yet.
 
Yeah my system is fine after the update. I have one of the "bad" models of guitars, but never had a problem with it, so this update was probably in vein.
 
Uggh, this is really turning into one hell of a cluster fuck. I'm still waiting for a call from my local EB to get some more copies in so that I can exchange my guitar...

I'm seriously considering just saying to hell with it and selling my half-broken copy on Ebay. I mean it works well enough that someone probably wouldn't even notice the whammy bar but fuckin'-A, for a $90 game and peripheral they should have had their shit together. Then there's the downloadable content on top of all that...
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Uggh, this is really turning into one hell of a cluster fuck. I'm still waiting for a call from my local EB to get some more copies in so that I can exchange my guitar...

I'm seriously considering just saying to hell with it and selling my half-broken copy on Ebay. I mean it works well enough that someone probably wouldn't even notice the whammy bar but fuckin'-A, for a $90 game and peripheral they should have had their shit together. Then there's the downloadable content on top of all that...[/quote]

Did you try downloading the patch? It fixes whammy bar porblems.
 
[quote name='Maynard']am I the only perons in the world who thinks that Cherry Pie is probably the worst song ever?
[/QUOTE]

Funny enough, Warrant agrees with you.
 
i cannot 5 star psychobilly freak out or the living end song.
ive got into the 80k range on psycho but no luck.
any tips on consistantly hitting the green/red and red/yellow fast parts?
those are what get me, i cant keep a high multiplier.
 
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