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Just tried to play again. First i got some kid who asked if i had a mic when obviously the icon showed i didnt. Then he started to complain about how i was stealing his kills in a team doubles game. Ummm i dunno about you, but im trying to win, not worry about who gets the kill. Then at the end of the game he tells me not to die, and right when he said that i got killed, game over. This coming from someone who ended the game with -6 kills/death to my 0.

But i dunno what it is, its like everyone else can kill me with little ammo and i have to shoot them 4 times more. Grenades seem like they do more damage than i remember. I dunno, i am glad im finally getting COD4 this week. Hopefully their online isnt bullshit.
 
I am starting to get burned out on this game. I win more matches when I don't party up with people, which makes it even more boring, since im faced with constantly losing with people I know, or winning with total strangers.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']Just tried to play again. First i got some kid who asked if i had a mic when obviously the icon showed i didnt. Then he started to complain about how i was stealing his kills in a team doubles game. Ummm i dunno about you, but im trying to win, not worry about who gets the kill. Then at the end of the game he tells me not to die, and right when he said that i got killed, game over. This coming from someone who ended the game with -6 kills/death to my 0.

But i dunno what it is, its like everyone else can kill me with little ammo and i have to shoot them 4 times more. Grenades seem like they do more damage than i remember. I dunno, i am glad im finally getting COD4 this week. Hopefully their online isnt bullshit.[/quote]

Yes...exactly!!! I thought I was crazy for thinking this way...I knew something was different.
 
I've noticed a couple of damage glitches lately too. However I'd like to say I find people whine far less in Halo than they do in Cod4. I've had CoD4 about a week and team matches sound so much more like whine fests.

"Omg I shot, him! Wtf, etc..."

Still I'm enjoying CoD4 so far mostly because the slow unlocking and challenge process makes you kinda feel like you're playing some sort of RPG. Once I unlock most things I'm not sure how much charm the game will hold for me.
 
[quote name='Kuroi Kaze']I've noticed a couple of damage glitches lately too. However I'd like to say I find people whine far less in Halo than they do in Cod4. I've had CoD4 about a week and team matches sound so much more like whine fests.

"Omg I shot, him! Wtf, etc..."

Still I'm enjoying CoD4 so far mostly because the slow unlocking and challenge process makes you kinda feel like you're playing some sort of RPG. Once I unlock most things I'm not sure how much charm the game will hold for me.[/quote]


What level in COD4 are you? For me, the unlocking/leveling was fun until around level 45, because then it was painfully slow.

[quote name='Trakan']You guys are finally starting to realize what everyone else realized last November.[/quote]


What, that games don't respond how they should all the time? Are you saying that COD 4 is flawless? Pfft. I see people survive airstrikes that land directly on them all the time. On top of that it seems like there are 10 pre-teens in every game screaming "OH MY fuckING GOD, I SOOOOOOO HEADSHOTTED THAT $$$$ER."
 
[quote name='Trakan']You guys are finally starting to realize what everyone else realized last November.[/quote]

Nah...it was way worse in November...when they ran a few patches it made it a lot better, but all of a sudden it seems that its gone downhill.
 
I usually get good matches but the lag-tastic ones are downright annoying.

Things I've seen:
-dying to a laser 9 ft. away
-dying to a laser that didn't go off
-dying to a laser while i was hiding behind a tree

-losing an AR --> melee battle when i have initiative
-losing a BR to AR battle at mid range
-dying in 2-shot or 3-shot BR battles

-dying to a grenade before it blows up
-my grenades coming out a second late and causing suicides

-losing in a shotgun+melee vs. mauler+melee battle
-losing in a sniper+melee (they both connected) vs. shotgun battle
-teammates melees not registering, making me fight opponents with near full shields when they should have none

And my all-time favorite:
-shooting someone with a sniper and seeing blood but no damage
 
[quote name='help1']What, that games don't respond how they should all the time? Are you saying that COD 4 is flawless? Pfft. I see people survive airstrikes that land directly on them all the time. On top of that it seems like there are 10 pre-teens in every game screaming "OH MY fuckING GOD, I SOOOOOOO HEADSHOTTED THAT $$$$ER."[/quote]

COD4 is far from perfect. I stopped playing that months ago too. I did play it for longer than H3 though. My point was that H3 was a disappointment after how long I played H2. I thought I'd be playing the game for years and it lasted me two months. I wish everyone was still into H2.


[quote name='LinkinPrime']Nah...it was way worse in November...when they ran a few patches it made it a lot better, but all of a sudden it seems that its gone downhill.[/quote]

The only thing that's changed since November gameplay-wise is the melee. Nothing has changed since the last few patches, I don't know how it could have gotten worse.
 
[quote name='Trakan']COD4 is far from perfect. I stopped playing that months ago too. I did play it for longer than H3 though. My point was that H3 was a disappointment after how long I played H2. I thought I'd be playing the game for years and it lasted me two months. I wish everyone was still into H2.
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I agree 100 percent. I played Halo 2 for years, while I am already getting tired of Halo and it hasn't even been one measly year. I think the reason for this is not only that Halo 3 isn't as good as it should be, but there are other games to play as well. When Halo 2 was out, it was the Xbox game to play. Now Halo 3 has some competition.

Oh well! Not too long till Gears 2 comes out.
 
[quote name='help1']I agree 100 percent. I played Halo 2 for years, while I am already getting tired of Halo and it hasn't even been one measly year. I think the reason for this is not only that Halo 3 isn't as good as it should be, but there are other games to play as well. When Halo 2 was out, it was the Xbox game to play. Now Halo 3 has some competition.

Oh well! Not too long till Gears 2 comes out.[/quote]

It's kind of nice being able to play all the new single player releases and various other multiplayer games like Metal Gear Online now that I don't have Halo dominating my playtime. If everyone were to suddenly jump back to H2 though, I'd go back without hesitation.
 
Halo 3 is the best still. Everything else like cod and stuff gets boring quick. In cod i get free easy kills,too easy and takes no skills.
 
Had a rough night last night. Played for two hours and lost every match except the last one. ugh. Lots of people that had clearly started up new gamertags just to get matched up against lower level players. My friends and I are no slouches, we maintain mid-20s to mid-30s ranks but were just getting our asses handed to us last night.

Needless to say it wasn't a very fun two hours. :lol:
 
the thing that kinda makes cod4 not fun is that EVERYONE charges at any muzzle flash they see anywhere near them guaranteeing that you'll be full of lead within seconds of finishing a kill.

i've had people just bombard the location with grenades while i'm in a firefight.
 
Multiteam 3 Ball is the Double XP list. I've been looking forward to checking that out. Might be on that's way better with a party so feel free to send me an invite if you see me on.
 
[quote name='help1']
Oh well! Not too long till Gears 2 comes out.[/quote]

Gears 2 is going to be THE game to play for the 360. Gears 2 is going to replace Halo 2. I can almost guarantee you Gears 3 will be horrible just like Halo 3. It's just a gut feeling I have. Not trying to bash Halo or anything, but the third installment really did suck it up Multiplayer wise. I still play it, but very rarely because it's a game that pisses you off. Hate the god damn luck factor involved with the BR. Totally ruined the game.
 
I really just wish all the weapons were balanced so that they're actually given roles. Right now it seems that a lot of them fulfill the same role, so there's really not much to use besides the BR / Sniper, with the occasional rockets / laser / shottie / mauler.

Here's what I'd suggest to balance it out:

Assault Rifle - More accurate with burst fire, but less damaging. I've been in too many mid-long range battles where my assault rifle needs to at least put some bullets in the enemy to help out a teammate, but current burst-fire is not even close to hitting them. I've also seen a lot of short-mid range battles that just turns out to be two guys full automatic, running at each other and meleeing. Make it so that someone who burst fires correctly can kill the full auto guy.

SMG - Should beat the AR in close range. I really don't like this gun in the game because it shares the same role as the AR, pretty much.

Plasma Rifle - Speed up the first few shots. Again, promote burst-fire as a way to get this in the game. It would be an awesome support weapon, but it's too loud and too slow to hit someone.

Spiker - Again, shares the same role with AR / SMG. I'd just have it do more melee damage and slow your enemy on hit.

Plasma pistol - Do something about the single shots, they're pretty useless now.

Carbine vs. BR: Carbine is an 8-shot kill with 18 in a clip. The BR is a 4-shot kill with 9 bursts in a clip. They both come with two reloads. Yet, it always seems like I run out of ammo with the Carbine faster than the BR. Maybe I'd put another reload in for the Carby, it is much harder to hit somebody with 8 shots than 4.
 
I agree with SMG. The gun sounds awesome, but whenever i use it, even if im using two at the same time, it is shit. I always die when trying to use that gun, even at close range.
 
I just wonder if a lot of people are complaining about the BR being a gun of "luck" if they even realize that headshots are a lot more effective then body shots? I'm not saying people who claim that don't realize it and are dumb, but I have known people who didn't realize that at first and who hated the BR gunfights before that.
 
[quote name='DustHimself']I just wonder if a lot of people are complaining about the BR being a gun of "luck" if they even realize that headshots are a lot more effective then body shots? I'm not saying people who claim that don't realize it and are dumb, but I have known people who didn't realize that at first and who hated the BR gunfights before that.[/quote]
The big complaint with the "random" BR is two-fold:

1- The BR isn't a hitscan weapon. Bullets now take time to travel, meaning you have to lead your target.
2- There is a random spread. The first bullet is precise but the second and third ones have a spread. I don't think it is THAT random but some do.

I would actually like to see hit registration fixed to see if the BR's randomness is as bad as believed. I've connected with sniper shots way too much and seen blood but no damage. It seems like the only time I get headshots are when I miss.
 
[quote name='DustHimself']I just wonder if a lot of people are complaining about the BR being a gun of "luck" if they even realize that headshots are a lot more effective then body shots? I'm not saying people who claim that don't realize it and are dumb, but I have known people who didn't realize that at first and who hated the BR gunfights before that.[/quote]

3 body shots and 1 headshot is the same as 4 headshots. Except with the body shots method you have a higher chance of connecting with every bullet.
 
Latest Bungie weekly update gave details on upcoming double XP weekends:

Double EXP (Listed in order of appearance)

• Fourth of July – A collection of Flag, Rockets, and VIP. 5v5.
• [SPURIOUS INTERRUPT: PACKET LOST - ERROR CODE 5929]
• Fiesta – FFA featuring random weapon spawns. 8 Players.
• Grifball – Updated to use the Summer League map. 4v4.
• Team Snipers – No changes from June. 4v4.
• Team Melee – Sword and hammer-centric slayer and

*/PACKET INTERRUPTION – ERROR CODE 5929 */
…Attempting Recovery…
…Attempting Recovery…
*/ 93% PACKET CORRUPTION – RECOVERY UNSUCCESSFUL - DISPLAYING */
C!#4x---^&-$x%^^p3@
• Head2@!#SWa#++-DL*SLAj3r
• 48hr0x0ABFFFFF [ERR 5929]
*/ END DISPLAY */
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I'm guessing the packet lost goobledy $$$$ might be pointing to a surprise or two with the double XP lists?

I'd like to see some more creative gametypes for these lists. Although I guess the 4th of July thing is something new and holiday themed and they haven't done team melee that I can remember. (I just hate melee. :D )
 
[quote name='wubb']Latest Bungie weekly update gave details on upcoming double XP weekends:



I'm guessing the packet lost goobledy $$$$ might be pointing to a surprise or two with the double XP lists?

I'd like to see some more creative gametypes for these lists. Although I guess the 4th of July thing is something new and holiday themed and they haven't done team melee that I can remember. (I just hate melee. :D )[/quote]

Maybe something special for Bungie Day? 7-7-08?
 
[quote name='GLOCKGLOCK']Maybe something special for Bungie Day? 7-7-08?[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, good guess. I was wondering what it could be as far as weekends as they have enough listed there to cover every weekend in July plus some. And it is placed right where 7/7 would fall.

Last update did mention there would be some free gamerpics and a free theme available on 7/7 only.
 
Decided to fire up the campaign after beating the first 2 levels. I beat levels 3 and 4, then finished 5, but as the 6th began, I got a "disk unreadable" alert. I re-started and tried to start with L6, but it wouldn't load. I replayed the 2nd half of level 5 and the same disk unreadable thing happened. Is this my disc? It works perfectly everywhere else, even in my second playthrough of level 5 after I got the first alert.
 
Yeah I wiped it off twice. I can see some scratches but nothing really stands out.

EDIT: Nevermind, it works (so far). I wonder if I'll get the level 5 achievement. Probably not, but it was a short level, I can re-play it.

DOUBLE EDIT: Got the "Cleansing" achievement for Level 5. All is well!
 
[quote name='DarkRider23']Gears 2 is going to be THE game to play for the 360. Gears 2 is going to replace Halo 2. I can almost guarantee you Gears 3 will be horrible just like Halo 3. It's just a gut feeling I have. Not trying to bash Halo or anything, but the third installment really did suck it up Multiplayer wise. I still play it, but very rarely because it's a game that pisses you off. Hate the god damn luck factor involved with the BR. Totally ruined the game.[/quote]

Halo 3 is the same as halo 2 so what do you mean? also it's better since they take less shots to drop.the br is good and you can't cheat like in part 2.
 
I guess we aren't going to hear about Chill Out or any other new maps until E3. Bummer. It'd would be beyond cool to announce at E3 that it is live and free for the weekend of E3. :)
 
I'm also in the Halo 3 > Halo 2 camp. If only because the noob combo is basically nil in 3. I do miss some Halo 2 maps though.
 
[quote name='Corvin']I guess we aren't going to hear about Chill Out or any other new maps until E3. Bummer. It'd would be beyond cool to announce at E3 that it is live and free for the weekend of E3. :)[/QUOTE]

Maybe it's going to be a Halo Day surprise?

(Let's start the rumor!)
 
My prediction is that on 7/7/08 bungie day, there will be a 48 hour playlist integration of Cold Storage into the playlists Head2Head, Team Swat, and DLC Slayer and that they'll be releasing Cold Storage as DLC on that day based on the clues in the last weekly update and what I saw for the description of DLC slayer just now.

In the DLC Slayer playlist on halo3 matchmaking right now, it says ALL DLC Maps required while DLC Objective only says Heroic/Legendary DLC required. They both used to be like the latter but now only one is.
 
Weak. I'll gladly take the free map but i'm still not paying 600 points for 3 maps that will eventually be free (August sometime?).
 
[quote name='SynGamer']Weak. I'll gladly take the free map but i'm still not paying 600 points for 3 maps that will eventually be free (August sometime?).[/quote]

They haven't announced when the maps will be free, but im willing to bet August is too soon. They will make them free once the new map pack is released. They haven't even shared info on the new maps, so you still have a while to go.

Also, Cold Storage for free = awesome.
 
I wish there were Infection playlists. I really want to play Infection online. Anyone know when they might have a playlist for Infection up?
 
[quote name='YodaEXE']I wish there were Infection playlists. I really want to play Infection online. Anyone know when they might have a playlist for Infection up?[/QUOTE]

probably halloween weekend......
 
Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong but my understanding was that the Legendary Map pack was only going to be 600 points for a day, then it'd bump back to 800 the next day. All I know is if you want to play Cold Storage in matchmaking you need the Legendary Map pack.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong but my understanding was that the Legendary Map pack was only going to be 600 points for a day, then it'd bump back to 800 the next day. All I know is if you want to play Cold Storage in matchmaking you need the Legendary Map pack.[/quote]


I think the Bungie Day temporary Double Exp hopper at the release of Cold Storage is going to be a FFA (12 players I think?) on Cold Storage (+ some other maps as well I assume). Then yeah, after that it will pretty much require the Legendary Map Pack it seems, but if we're lucky it'll be integrated into all the hoppers.
 
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