Halo: Reach

[quote name='hustletron']I find it odd that people enjoy doing bad. I don't freak out like most people do if I have a bad game but I'm not gonna keep playing something I'm bad at because it's not fun. It's not a job, you don't HAVE To do it so why would you keep doing something you're bad at?

I don't think practice or not knowing the maps is the problem, you're just bad, no offense, and there's a lot of players like you as well it just bugs the shit out of me when they play SWAT knowing they are bad.[/QUOTE]

So your philosophy is "fuck practice, if you're not naturally gifted at SWAT then stop playing this game"?

KDR really shouldn't matter to people as much as it does.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Any one have tips for the 50 Elites challenge?[/QUOTE]

Like someone said before, sword base mission where you farm credits. There are 2 elites there, takes a little time but you get it.
 
When playing BTB on Hemorrhage, i feel completely useless if i dont get in one of the good vehicles, or grab the sniper rifle. If i miss out on these i just sit back hoping someone with a ghost comes by and tries to run me down, so i can use my armor lock on them. I have no desire to get out in the middle of the field just to get killed by someone in a vehicle, or someone camping with the sniper.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Any one have tips for the 50 Elites challenge?[/QUOTE]

You can also do Long Night of Solace - checkpoint Bravo. There are a bunch of elites there and you won't have to reload as often. Of course, you probably won't get this message in time (only a couple of minutes until new challenges posted), but good information if similar challenge pops up.
 
[quote name='hustletron']What does that have to do with someone going 1 and 14? It's not like he just got the game he was a WO3.
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I'm a WO2 and I suck at SWAT. I played it for the first time the other day and did terrible. There are lots of ways to earn credits and rank up. I can hold my own on other maps, but I don't have the twitch skills to run around and get head shots every time.

You probably got paired with the weakest person for that reason. If there are 4 people and you are the strongest of the 4, most likely, you will be paired with the weakest.
 
[quote name='hustletron']What does that have to do with someone going 1 and 14? It's not like he just got the game he was a WO3. I find it odd that people enjoy doing bad. I don't freak out like most people do if I have a bad game but I'm not gonna keep playing something I'm bad at because it's not fun. It's not a job, you don't HAVE To do it so why would you keep doing something you're bad at?

SWAT for example, isn't a hard concept to wrap your head around, no shields, DMRs only, aim for the head. Besides that it's not so much the player that bothers me it's the fact that the game put him on my team. It's not like I'm super pro I have a little over 200 more games than you do yet you don't have "time" to "practice" yet you have a .65 KDR and I have a 1.39 KDR with a difference of 200 and some games.

I don't think practice or not knowing the maps is the problem, you're just bad, no offense, and there's a lot of players like you as well it just bugs the shit out of me when they play SWAT knowing they are bad.

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And I think it's odd that people take games seriously and care about being good at them rather than just using them as fun time wasters. Everyone has different reasons for playing games.

I'm WO3 as well, and I have some very bad games. Not 1-14 bad usually, but if I play swat I'm usually -5 or more on k/d. I do better in rumble pit slayer modes.

But I don't care about being good. I just play to have fun. I try to stay around even at least on k/d, but it doesn't ruin my night if I don't as I have fun playing. That's the point of gaming for me--having fun. Not being good or competitive. I have that drive in my career. Games are just mindless entertainment.

But don't worry, I stay out of arena and generally don't play team modes (unless I have a party of friends to play with) just so I don't have to deal with hardcore jackoffss like you whining about us scrubs tanking your precious w-l record. :roll:
 
[quote name='AlphaPanda']
KDR really shouldn't matter to people as much as it does.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Adding stats to online gaming has really hurt it IMO.

Especially objective modes as you have people just going for kills instead of the flags or whatever to get their K/D up, have teammates bitching about stealing their kills when you you're just trying to defend an objective in a mode where kills don't count toward winning etc.

The only thing that matters is fun IMO. And even if you really care about winning, then at least care about winning the mode and stay in deathmatch modes if you want to rack up kills and work on you K/D ration!
 
i've always said bungie should not add any objective types into your KDR to prevent such griefing.

king of the hill is the worst offender when some ass with a snipe just shoots people in the hill from super far without fighting anyone.
 
Yeah, that would be the best solution. Only have kill and death stats tracked for the slayer modes. Don't even show them post match, that would solve all those problems of douches going for kills instead of the objectives.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']And I think it's odd that people take games seriously and care about being good at them rather than just using them as fun time wasters. Everyone has different reasons for playing games.

I'm WO3 as well, and I have some very bad games. Not 1-14 bad usually, but if I play swat I'm usually -5 or more on k/d. I do better in rumble pit slayer modes.

But I don't care about being good. I just play to have fun. I try to stay around even at least on k/d, but it doesn't ruin my night if I don't as I have fun playing. That's the point of gaming for me--having fun. Not being good or competitive. I have that drive in my career. Games are just mindless entertainment.

But don't worry, I stay out of arena and generally don't play team modes (unless I have a party of friends to play with) just so I don't have to deal with hardcore jackoffss like you whining about us scrubs tanking your precious w-l record. :roll:[/QUOTE]


I fail to see how I'm whining about anything, you can check my stats just like I checked yours, if I was that concerned with my KDR and my W/L I wouldn't play every single game by myself with a new team every single time. But I guess you have to get your jabs in on me cuz I said you were bad.

I don't play all day everyday, I play a few hours here and there as I have shit to do too, I go to school full time, I have an internship on top of that and I'm also in an Army ROTC program so I'm sorry I guess I'm just naturally good. The point is, you know what you are and aren't good at, if you(I say you as a generalization and not you personally) continue to play SWAT knowing you're terrible at it and constantly go -5, 6, 7, 8, then why play SWAT? Play something you're good at because you and I both know doing terrible isn't fun, it's not going to ruin my day but it's not how I want to pass my free time and if you like playing SWAT regardless of how well you do, by all means go for it, but don't expect people to not say something.



[quote name='AlphaPanda']So your philosophy is "fuck practice, if you're not naturally gifted at SWAT then stop playing this game"?

KDR really shouldn't matter to people as much as it does.[/QUOTE]


If your philosophy is "I play games to waste time and have fun" then why the fuck are you practicing or having to practice? Unless your idea of fun is making the team your're on lose on purpose by giving the opposite team kills, then you're worse than the people you're talking shit about. I never said anything about not playing Halo because you're bad at SWAT, I said stop playing SWAT if you're bad at SWAT, a pretty logical statement.
 
[quote name='hustletron']I never said anything about not playing Halo because you're bad at SWAT, I said stop playing SWAT if you're bad at SWAT, a pretty logical statement.[/QUOTE]

Um...did you actually think that's a logical statement? If someone isn't good at a game mode, they shouldn't play it at all? By that "logic," if they aren't good at Reach, they should just stop playing the game.
 
I don't necessarily agree with all of Hustletron's points, but I definitely agree with his point of why the hell do people play games they're bad at.

I don't play games I'm bad at because I don't have fun playing them because well...I do bad. I'm perplexed by people I see online who go 2-15, or 5-15, or whatever but have a decent ranking, not just in Halo but other games, and keep playing. If I only had 2 kills for every 15 times I died on a regular basis, I would quit playing that game pretty damn fast.

If people who sucked at Halo stopped playing Halo...it'd make for a much better experience for the other, more skilled players.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']It's possible to still have fun even if you suck.[/QUOTE]

Understandable. I just wish the people who knowingly suck at a game tried to get together in a party with others who also knowingly sucked at a game and play together and lose together.

It's unbelievably frustrating to lose because of 1 or 2 bad players, who may be having fun, ruin your fun because you want to be competitive and win.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Understandable. I just wish the people who knowingly suck at a game tried to get together in a party with others who also knowingly sucked at a game and play together and lose together.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough! Isn't that what the matchmaking system tries to do though, match people up with other players on the same level?
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Understandable. I just wish the people who knowingly suck at a game tried to get together in a party with others who also knowingly sucked at a game and play together and lose together.

It's unbelievably frustrating to lose because of 1 or 2 bad players, who may be having fun, ruin your fun because you want to be competitive and win.[/QUOTE]

Thats why players who feel like you do, should play together. Play arena with friends or team modes with friends. If a player bases their fun strictly on winning, then they should play solo modes were winning depends on the individuals performance.

Whats perplexing is that people cannot rationalize winning and fun not being exclusively related.
 
[quote name='hustletron']I fail to see how I'm whining about anything, you can check my stats just like I checked yours, if I was that concerned with my KDR and my W/L I wouldn't play every single game by myself with a new team every single time. But I guess you have to get your jabs in on me cuz I said you were bad.

I don't play all day everyday, I play a few hours here and there as I have shit to do too, I go to school full time, I have an internship on top of that and I'm also in an Army ROTC program so I'm sorry I guess I'm just naturally good. The point is, you know what you are and aren't good at, if you(I say you as a generalization and not you personally) continue to play SWAT knowing you're terrible at it and constantly go -5, 6, 7, 8, then why play SWAT? Play something you're good at because you and I both know doing terrible isn't fun, it's not going to ruin my day but it's not how I want to pass my free time and if you like playing SWAT regardless of how well you do, by all means go for it, but don't expect people to not say something.






If your philosophy is "I play games to waste time and have fun" then why the fuck are you practicing or having to practice? Unless your idea of fun is making the team your're on lose on purpose by giving the opposite team kills, then you're worse than the people you're talking shit about. I never said anything about not playing Halo because you're bad at SWAT, I said stop playing SWAT if you're bad at SWAT, a pretty logical statement.[/QUOTE]

What I don't understand is, why do you think your so good at this game? If your going to insult others at least be good yourself. Oh well with all your complaining find people to play with, go back to Halo 3 or just don't play online at all. I know people have the right to bitch, but to see the same people bitch on CAG, it gets so annoying, everyday its the same shit. I actually prefer playing with randoms most of the time, makes me a better player.


Also, you act like SWAT actually takes skill. People just hide, as I am sure you do and wait for people to cross their paths. SWATs fun and all,but it gets old real quick.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Fair enough! Isn't that what the matchmaking system tries to do though, match people up with other players on the same level?[/QUOTE]

It tries and fails. Especially in a game like Reach or CoD where a person's rank is based on time spent versus actual skill. Someone could be a Captain Grade 3, but be complete garbage because they've spent a lot of time doing daily challenges, Gruntpocalypse, etc. Halo 3 and Halo 2 were much, much better at matching players of similar skill.

[quote name='paz9x']Thats why players who feel like you do, should play together. Play arena with friends or team modes with friends. If a player bases their fun strictly on winning, then they should play solo modes were winning depends on the individuals performance.

Whats perplexing is that people cannot rationalize winning and fun not being exclusively related.[/QUOTE]

I do play with people I know. But there's times where we'd like to play larger team playlists, but just don't have enough players to fill an entire team.

To me, winning and having fun are very related. That's not to say, if I'm not winning all the time, I'm not having fun. I can deal with a 2 or 3 game lose streak. But there are players who literally have a .5 or lower K/D, have 10+ game losing streaks...but still continue to play. If I were such a player, again, I'd quit playing this game or any other game where I continued to do bad.
 
[quote name='hustletron'] The point is, you know what you are and aren't good at, if you(I say you as a generalization and not you personally) continue to play SWAT knowing you're terrible at it and constantly go -5, 6, 7, 8, then why play SWAT? Play something you're good at because you and I both know doing terrible isn't fun, it's not going to ruin my day but it's not how I want to pass my free time and if you like playing SWAT regardless of how well you do, by all means go for it, but don't expect people to not say something.
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Well, I don't play much swat as I don't like all the campers and getting shot as soon as aI spawn.

But I tend to be a little negative more often than I'm positive when I play rumble pit slayer modes. But I still have fun. I know I'm not going to win many matches (I've won one rumble pit slayer match so far) so I have other goals for myself like getting at least 10 kills and not being worse than -5 in KDR to consider a match a success.

I know I'm not good at these things, I barely played FPS games until this generation, will never be a crack shot with dual analog aiming etc. I just play to have fun, and I'm mainly just popping on to rack up some easy daily challenges and credits at this point.

So if I'm getting my 10+ kills to bang out the kill XX people in multiplayer challenges and occasionally having some good games of 15-20+ kills I'm having a good time. If I'm having a bad day and really stinking it up, I'll turn it off or go play some firefight etc.

Just no reason to take this seriously.


If your philosophy is "I play games to waste time and have fun" then why the fuck are you practicing or having to practice? Unless your idea of fun is making the team your're on lose on purpose by giving the opposite team kills, then you're worse than the people you're talking shit about. I never said anything about not playing Halo because you're bad at SWAT, I said stop playing SWAT if you're bad at SWAT, a pretty logical statement.
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I'm having fun, and I stay out of the Team Slayer and Team Swat modes. Though I do think all you competitive types should be in Arena and leaving the social modes to people who don't really care about winning. At the least hopefully you've set up your psych profile to competitive and use the custom matching by skill so you can avoid people like me.


[quote name='Ryuukishi']It's possible to still have fun even if you suck.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely. Just not take it seriously, set some other goals for yourself beyond winning etc. like I outlined above.


[quote name='A Happy Panda']Understandable. I just wish the people who knowingly suck at a game tried to get together in a party with others who also knowingly sucked at a game and play together and lose together.

It's unbelievably frustrating to lose because of 1 or 2 bad players, who may be having fun, ruin your fun because you want to be competitive and win.[/QUOTE]

No, I think the burden is on you serious competitive types to form clans, party up etc. Most of us casuals are probably like me and have few friends who game online so it's hard to party up with other casuals. None of my real life friends even have 360s, and the CAGs on my friends list either don't play Reach much or are serious types I don't want to play competitive games with.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']It tries and fails. Especially in a game like Reach or CoD where a person's rank is based on time spent versus actual skill. Someone could be a Captain Grade 3, but be complete garbage because they've spent a lot of time doing daily challenges, Gruntpocalypse, etc. Halo 3 and Halo 2 were much, much better at matching players of similar skill.
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I do agree with that. These things should match based on KDR, accuracy, W-L record and other more skill-related stats they track and not just rank.
 
[quote name='paz9x']Thats why players who feel like you do, should play together. Play arena with friends or team modes with friends. If a player bases their fun strictly on winning, then they should play solo modes were winning depends on the individuals performance.

Whats perplexing is that people cannot rationalize winning and fun not being exclusively related.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. The onus should not be everyone else. If you wanna be ultra-competitive and always win, then you should get together with your friends and run roughshod through all of the disorganized masses playing the game.

Personally, I have my good games, and I have my bad games. My KD ratio is slightly above 1. To many folks, I probably blow. If you happen to run into me on a really bad day, though, and you think I totally "suck" and lost the game for you, I don't wanna hear about how I ruined your week. Go play with the rest of your buddies, then you can destroy me and 3 other random guys, and you'll feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

The only thing I do agree with from the side of the ultra-competitive folks is that the matchmaking system is a failure. It should, indeed, be based on skill, not rank, which is solely based on how much you play. I am an LC3. I definitely don't think I am very good at this game.
 
Understandable again. But I still stand by my point. You guys all are probably average, or probably above average players. My argument is not against you.

My argument is against the people with
 
If they're having fun, that's all that matters.

Maybe they play a lot of team objective and are aggressive in going for flags etc. and don't care about kills and just occasionally play swat or Team Slayer? Maybe they're new to FPS online and are trying to get better. Who knows. If they're having fun, more power to them.

Just use the review system to avoid them like I do the players I get matched up with who are too good and hopefully you'll run into less of them.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Halo 3 and Halo 2 were much, much better at matching players of similar skill.[/QUOTE]

As someone who hovered between 20-30 in Halo 3 getting continually matched with 40 and aboves, I have to disagree. Reach has done an amazing job matching up players so far.

[quote name='dmaul1114']I do agree with that. These things should match based on KDR, accuracy, W-L record and other more skill-related stats they track and not just rank.[/QUOTE]

I thought it did. I was under the assumption that rank was just a "cosmetic" thing tied to the CR system and the real matching was done under the hood(with the stats), if you will.
 
[quote name='Corvin']
I thought it did. I was under the assumption that rank was just a "cosmetic" thing tied to the CR system and the real matching was done under the hood(with the stats), if you will.[/QUOTE]

I don't think so. I'm always matched up with people right around my rank even if I select skill in the custom options. And looking up some gamer tags etc. there's a huge disparity in KDR among people I've gotten matched with etc.
 
[quote name='Corvin']As someone who hovered between 20-30 in Halo 3 getting continually matched with 40 and aboves, I have to disagree. Reach has done an amazing job matching up players so far.

I thought it did. I was under the assumption that rank was just a "cosmetic" thing tied to the CR system and the real matching was done under the hood(with the stats), if you will.[/QUOTE]

How recently were you playing H3? That may have been a product of Halo 3's longer than usual lifespan compared to other MP shooters. People who were still playing H3 even into its 3rd year, it's not hard to imagine that these are the people who would be in the 40s. It may have been hard for the system to find people in the 20-30 range if you were playing it recently.

The TrueSkill rating is still in play yes.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Fair enough! Isn't that what the matchmaking system tries to do though, match people up with other players on the same level?[/QUOTE]

Yeah I believe it accomplishes it fairly well with regards to comparing it with Battlefield: Bad Company 2 where I was going up against veterans my first time online!?
 
If you come late to the party with a competitive online shooter...you're going to get matched up against people higher ranked, and better than you. It's just the way it is. There's A LOT less people who are just getting into the game than people who have been playing it since launch. This skews the numbers and significantly decreases the chances of you getting matched with similar level players.
 
People who complain about having lame ducks on their team forget something: They're on the other team, too. They're the ones you rack up kills on.

After a session, I hope to have more kills than deaths. I would say I'm not very good at Halo proportionate to how much I've played, but I still play. And anyone who says I shouldn't because I'm not awesome at it needs to look in the mirror and at that statement they're making. Who are you to tell whether someone should be playing a freaking video game?

I'm not someone who sticks with one game for months. I have almost 1800 games (check my collection in my sig). But that also means I won't be as good at one game as those who are more devoted.

Games are about having fun. If I can go 9-13 in Arena and still have a good time, then that's what I'll do. I'm constantly learning the maps more, or the armor abilities, or the weapons. The thing is, everyone else is learning, too -- and maybe at a steadier clip because I play less or I'm not a natural.

When it stops being fun, I stop playing. I have plenty of other shit to spend my time on, and most of them I'm pretty good at.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']If you come late to the party with a competitive online shooter...you're going to get matched up against people higher ranked, and better than you. It's just the way it is. There's A LOT less people who are just getting into the game than people who have been playing it since launch. This skews the numbers and significantly decreases the chances of you getting matched with similar level players.[/QUOTE]

I was hoping there were a few newcomers that were playing the Ultimate Edition like I was but I now know the release date on that. Still a few months shouldn't be too late, a few years yeah. It's cool though, I've played other Battlefield games and many other shooters on the PC and 360 so I'll adjust.
 
[quote name='fatmanforlife99']What I don't understand is, why do you think your so good at this game? If your going to insult others at least be good yourself. Oh well with all your complaining find people to play with, go back to Halo 3 or just don't play online at all. I know people have the right to bitch, but to see the same people bitch on CAG, it gets so annoying, everyday its the same shit. I actually prefer playing with randoms most of the time, makes me a better player.


Also, you act like SWAT actually takes skill. People just hide, as I am sure you do and wait for people to cross their paths. SWATs fun and all,but it gets old real quick.[/QUOTE]


LOL I never once said I MYSELF was good, by the other people who are disagreeing with me, specifically dmaul, who's stats I only looked up, I could appear as good, considering what I posted previously.

I never myself went on record saying I'm good. I said "I guess I'm naturally good" in reference to dmaul's previous post because he was saying some people aren't good at games or whatever point he was trying to make.

Don't put words in my mouth, I told dmaul like I'll tell everyone else, you can look up my stats and draw your own conclusions.

My sole point was that if you know you're bad at SWAT then don't play SWAT. Yes that's MY logic, I don't give a shit if you agree or not, cool if you do, could care less if you don't.

That's my logic cuz ESPECIALLY when it comes down to challenges, which I personally find fun, because they are sometimes actually challenging, I would actually like to get them done, and my original post about the matter was on the day where you had to get 7 wins.

I eventually got my 7 wins but it took way too long considering my performance in the games of SWAT and taking into consideration the performance of my team mates.

You're gonna revert back to the age old "SWAT doesn't take skill" blah blah blah argument. Look dude, I don't give a shit what you think of SWAT. You probably say it doesn't take skill cuz you get destroyed in it, you dumb it down into people hiding and camping, fine whatever, you would get worked.

You've never played with me or against me yet you draw your conclusions based on a particular playlist I play, really only because it's easy to get kills and credits especially on days like today when headshot honcho is a challenge which I get done in 1 game easily. Using camping in a game, especially this game is such a lame ass argument when the respawns are as fucked as they are. If anything camping takes more skill cuz the game will spawn a whole enemy team behind you or right on top of you, on top of that, how are you NOT supposed to camp on maps like Pinnacle? The team that doesn't make use of what little cover(or in your eyes 'camp') will lose because that map is for lack of a better word, terrible. Then again I'm wrong because apparently you all are try hards who think SWAT is "noob" or "easy" yet you refuse to play it cuz you get killed too much.


[quote name='ViolentLee']People who complain about having lame ducks on their team forget something: They're on the other team, too. They're the ones you rack up kills on.

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That's what is most aggravating, that's rarely the case that I've experienced. Yeah it happens, it happens quite a bit, but the majority of the time it's a full team that plays together, and I have myself and a bunch of guests playing split screen or something. Rare occasions I'll get lucky and those guests do work but like I said, it's very rare. I refuse to believe a game as big as Halo Reach only has premade teams of friends who are familiar with the game and all play above average to pit me against, while I get all the stoners who start matchmaking then go to pack a bowl or fall asleep as soon as the game loads.

I don't play SWAT exclusively but I have been playing it more so lately because believe it or don't the games go by faster as opposed to people camping in a corner with a shotgun in Team Slayer or people camping even more because there's a radar. Now that I'm done defending myself I'll jump back on my noob swat playlist.
 
[quote name='lolwut?']ITT Hustletron writes an essay[/QUOTE]


Well apparently I have to go into further detail and explain the same thing in a different way for some people to understand.



[quote name='A Happy Panda']Understandable again. But I still stand by my point. You guys all are probably average, or probably above average players. My argument is not against you.

My argument is against the people with
 
[quote name='hustletron']LOL I never once said I MYSELF was good, by the other people who are disagreeing with me, specifically dmaul, who's stats I only looked up, I could appear as good, considering what I posted previously.

I never myself went on record saying I'm good. I said "I guess I'm naturally good" in reference to dmaul's previous post because he was saying some people aren't good at games or whatever point he was trying to make.

Don't put words in my mouth, I told dmaul like I'll tell everyone else, you can look up my stats and draw your own conclusions.

My sole point was that if you know you're bad at SWAT then don't play SWAT. Yes that's MY logic, I don't give a shit if you agree or not, cool if you do, could care less if you don't.

That's my logic cuz ESPECIALLY when it comes down to challenges, which I personally find fun, because they are sometimes actually challenging, I would actually like to get them done, and my original post about the matter was on the day where you had to get 7 wins.

I eventually got my 7 wins but it took way too long considering my performance in the games of SWAT and taking into consideration the performance of my team mates.

You're gonna revert back to the age old "SWAT doesn't take skill" blah blah blah argument. Look dude, I don't give a shit what you think of SWAT. You probably say it doesn't take skill cuz you get destroyed in it, you dumb it down into people hiding and camping, fine whatever, you would get worked.

You've never played with me or against me yet you draw your conclusions based on a particular playlist I play, really only because it's easy to get kills and credits especially on days like today when headshot honcho is a challenge which I get done in 1 game easily. Using camping in a game, especially this game is such a lame ass argument when the respawns are as fucked as they are. If anything camping takes more skill cuz the game will spawn a whole enemy team behind you or right on top of you, on top of that, how are you NOT supposed to camp on maps like Pinnacle? The team that doesn't make use of what little cover(or in your eyes 'camp') will lose because that map is for lack of a better word, terrible. Then again I'm wrong because apparently you all are try hards who think SWAT is "noob" or "easy" yet you refuse to play it cuz you get killed too much.




That's what is most aggravating, that's rarely the case that I've experienced. Yeah it happens, it happens quite a bit, but the majority of the time it's a full team that plays together, and I have myself and a bunch of guests playing split screen or something. Rare occasions I'll get lucky and those guests do work but like I said, it's very rare. I refuse to believe a game as big as Halo Reach only has premade teams of friends who are familiar with the game and all play above average to pit me against, while I get all the stoners who start matchmaking then go to pack a bowl or fall asleep as soon as the game loads.

I don't play SWAT exclusively but I have been playing it more so lately because believe it or don't the games go by faster as opposed to people camping in a corner with a shotgun in Team Slayer or people camping even more because there's a radar. Now that I'm done defending myself I'll jump back on my noob swat playlist.[/QUOTE]

You get mad when you get called out, don't call other people out. I am sure you would get worked in any other playlist. SWAT is for people who can't use the DMR or the BR in Halo 3. Get out of here crybaby. I love how in your profile you say quit camping, but your defending it in your dumbass response. Everytime I have played SWAT I have done great, I like it, but the spawns are shit and until they fix it I won't play it.

Your supposed to keep moving all the time not camping. Whatever man keep telling yourself your good and I am just going to keep on laughing at you.
 
[quote name='fatmanforlife99']You get mad when you get called out, don't call other people out. I am sure you would get worked in any other playlist. SWAT is for people who can't use the DMR or the BR in Halo 3. Get out of here crybaby. I love how in your profile you say quit camping, but your defending it in your dumbass response. Everytime I have played SWAT I have done great, I like it, but the spawns are shit and until they fix it I won't play it.

Your supposed to keep moving all the time not camping. Whatever man keep telling yourself your good and I am just going to keep on laughing at you.[/QUOTE]


LOL What are you talking about? Who is mad in this entire thread? I just said you can look up my stats and see for yourself instead of drawing baseless claims.

I'm also pretty sure dmaul doesn't need you to get all butthurt on his behalf and defend him just cuz I said he's bad when he's actually bad. I didn't say it to be a dick I said it cuz it's the truth, I'm sure dmaul is a real nice and resilient guy, he'll bounce back. It'll be okay man.

You can keep laughing cuz I couldn't careless, just don't put words in my mouth cuz I never said I was good and I definitely didn't defend camping, I said it's necessary to make use of cover in most cramped poorly made maps, like the example I used in my last post: Pinnacle. I don't camp but I do run around a small general area because most of that area is out in the open and you're asking to get shot in the face and I know how the spawns work in this game. Mean while you have maps like Reflection which is a great map IMO and people camp in that HARD when it's completely lame and unnecessary because the map is pretty spread out and there are enough safe spawn points to where you won't get killed instantly.
 
This thread's knucklehead/dickhead ratio is really high.

I move that a new thread be created about the theory of why people should and shouldn't keep playing to help us understand why someone might or might not be having fun even if they suck at a game.
 
I'm still waiting for the day when the Gamertag "Zones" (Underground, Family, Recreation, Pro) actually work more often - that way people who don't mesh well together, the MLGs with the "I've got 40 minutes to kill" people, don't play together. If I'm in the game chat I like to talk shit to people and mess around, but I wish that it would more often put me in rooms with other "Underground" people who won't take it seriously or get offended, they understand that that's how competitive games are fun - aside from the stats. What's the point of choosing the zones if you're not going to get matched up with similar people? I don't want the mother of three or some 15 year old kid playing a M rated game in the room, because they don't understand that the things being said are all for fun and then you receive 10 negative feedback because of it. I'm sure they don't want me or the people who yell obnoxious things over the mic in their room, either. It doesn't help that there's no real casual section and competitive sections of the playlists - Arena and SWAT aren't good/numerous enough for people who want to play seriously. The only playlists that exist now are ones that you can't really tell if they are casual or serious, which leads to the present topic of this thread.

I wish they'd go back to the playlists that have Team Training, BTB Training, Slayer Training, etc. for casual people looking to have fun and/or get better; and Team Slayer, Team Objective, BTB, MLG, etc. for people looking to have the best rank and KDR. Mixing everyone into one big pot is good for some things, but not competitive multiplayer games like this, CoD, Gears, etc. The only problem I ever had with that system is that you had people who were mediocre at the game beat up on casual players on their playlists because they didn't have a team or couldn't hang with the big boys on competitive gametypes. A more balanced matchmaking system could fix that right up, though.

The ranking system on the game only makes the situation worse. Yeah, it's cool to show off that shiny new symbol after your 1,000th game of Gruntpocalypse (not hating...I did it, too), but there needs to be a numeric system spread across competitive gametypes that attempts to balance out the teams.
 
Agree 100% Xecutioner.

I'd be more than happy to have longer waits in matchmaking if the Zone system, or the skill and pysch profile with in reach etc. worked better and I got matched up more often with similarly skilled people who don't give a crap about KDR etc. and are simply playing to goof around and have fun.
 
Yah. It'd be nice if they moved towards a "Social," "Ranked," and "Arena" modes set up. That would offer at least 3 different tiers and I feel would allow most players to find a playlist within one of those modes they enjoyed playing.
 
Yeah, that would help. Even better if social gave credits, but didn't track stats as that would keep the competitive types from jumping to social to boost their KDR.
 
[quote name='Ma12kez']Awesome news about the Grifball playlist. Has there been any news on Team Shotty/Snipes?[/QUOTE]
I did hear about a team sniper playlist, but thats all, Im sure they will also bring back old playlists from Halo 3 and test it on here to see how well they do.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Agree 100% Xecutioner.

I'd be more than happy to have longer waits in matchmaking if the Zone system, or the skill and pysch profile with in reach etc. worked better and I got matched up more often with similarly skilled people who don't give a crap about KDR etc. and are simply playing to goof around and have fun.[/QUOTE]

Sorry but I think their main priority was to get you into a game as fast as possible due to modern day gamer's attention spans lol. I'm not disagreeing with you though, yeah def needs some work but I'm grateful that the psych profile feature exists for Halo Reach.
 
Finally finished the grind from WO 3rd Grade to Captain. Did 3 of the 4 daily challenges. Would have liked to have got the 4th to get the weekly challenge since I won't get to play again before it resets (family visiting), but just no way my sucky ass was getting 11 head shots in one MP game. Closest I got was 8 as I suck ass at Swat and don't play it often.
 
Anyone feel like flying over here and helping me clean my damn house so that I can get the cable company to come install their internet? :)

It does suck missing out on all these daily/weekly challenges and only being able to play online when I head over a bud's house.

Hustletron, I didn't mean to be so harsh about what I said, brother, lack of sleep kind of re-worded my meaning. However, I will say, you do seem to have that MLG "pros only, scrubs get out" attitude about you, which irks me a bit. I play for fun, if I lose I just shrug it off and go to the next game. What I meant about the practice thing, is that if I find that I'm having some bad games in SWAT, I'm not just going to quit out and never play the damn mode again, I'd like to play it every now and then and see if I can get better at it so that I can have more fun. Same with every other game mode.

I think everything would be better if people just took it easy, or as other people have said, have the MLG-minded stay in the Arena with the other competitives and let me just have fun in my Social matches. Gaming isn't all about being hardcore, there's no use in spending 60 bucks in a game to piss yourself off.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Finally finished the grind from WO 3rd Grade to Captain.[/QUOTE]
It goes a lot quicker from Cpt. G1 to Major. I'm probably around 60% to Major, and I feel like the whole Cpt. process was quicker than just getting through WO G3.

If you're not so good at multiplayer, then campaign and firefight commendations are your friends.
 
I got disconnected during a Rocketfight. I think it gave me credit for the challenge, but it still shows the challenge as incomplete. I guess getting DCed from Live triggered that bug people were using to gain credits fast.

Does this mean I can't play firefight for the rest of the day? I want to play, but I don't want to risk having my rank reset by completing the same challenge twice :(
 
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