HD DVD thread - Toshiba: HD DVD DISCONTINUED, REPAIR/SUPPORT CONTINUES, NO BLU PLANS

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[quote name='LinkinPrime']Another day and WB still hasn't shipped TMNT...have any of you guys seen the HD DVD yet? How's the PQ/SQ transfer?[/QUOTE]

Watched the BR today and it looked amazing. Its probably the same transfer so its a good buy. Can't comment on the sound quality since I just moved and have not set up my surround yet. Watching a movie without a good audio set up is torture.
 
[quote name='Ruined']woot, sendit.com just shipped the UK version of T2 HD DVD :)[/QUOTE]

Why did you get the UK version?

It's the same thing as the French version but with the packaging in English and missing the theatical cut (disc 1)
 
I don't know his reasons, but I'll probably get it too (it would be my first import). Between the forced subtitles on the theatrical cut and French-language packaging, I'd rather get the UK version.

Is sendit.com the best place to get it?
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']I don't know his reasons, but I'll probably get it too (it would be my first import). Between the forced subtitles on the theatrical cut and French-language packaging, I'd rather get the UK version.[/QUOTE]

The forced subtitles on the theatrical are resizeable, you can make them sit solely in the black bar.

Plus it's just a bonus on top of the director's cut (disc from the UK version).

If you really hated it, you could always sell it. I've seen it go for $15/20 for disc only.
 
BDA disabling BD-R/RE playback in new Blu-Ray standalones & firmwares to curb piracy!

The Blu-Ray Disc Association is permanently crippling BD-R playback in new players now. It is being done to curb piracy, at the expense of people who like to produce their own hidef discs (for weddings, sports events, backups, etc). They are apparently coming out with special AACS blanks, but they aren't available now and it is unknown how compatible they will be - and they could be very expensive.

Say goodbye to open formats like DVD-R/DVD+R if Blu-Ray wins the format war:

[quote name='paidgeek, Sony Insider/Employee on AVSFORUM']Blu-ray players were never supposed to support BDMV authored content using ordinary data type BD-R or BD-RE media. An exemption was made for a number of months so that available blank discs could be used for testing and other promotional activities; this exemption expired recently...

...The players were not permitted to play movie content from the current blank media to begin with. There was an exception made for a short period of time to help facilitate testing and demonstrations. This issues has been given consideration since before the launch of the format. The fundamental issue is easy to understand. The studios cannot accept the use of blank media for making clones of copyrighted discs. The computer industry wants to empower consumers to fully utilize the format and that is fine, so long as measures are taken to protect copyright...[/quote]

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11237686&&#post11237686
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11240083&&#post11240083
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=886153
http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=25294
http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=23713

Just another reason to keep full support for HD DVD! No crippled recordable discs!
 
[quote name='Ruined']BDA disabling BD-R/RE playback in new Blu-Ray standalones & firmwares to curb piracy!

The Blu-Ray Disc Association is permanently crippling BD-R playback in new players now. It is being done to curb piracy, at the expense of people who like to produce their own hidef discs (for weddings, sports events, backups, etc). They are apparently coming out with special AACS blanks, but they aren't available now and it is unknown how compatible they will be - and they could be very expensive.

Say goodbye to open formats like DVD-R/DVD+R if Blu-Ray wins the format war:



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11237686&&#post11237686
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11240083&&#post11240083
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=886153
http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=25294
http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=23713

Just another reason to keep full support for HD DVD! No crippled recordable discs![/quote]

Holly fuck...thats a horrible move. I understand the piracy portion of it but not allowing people to make their own home movies is just plain retarted.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Holly fuck...thats a horrible move. I understand the piracy portion of it but not allowing people to make their own home movies is just plain retarted.[/QUOTE]

What is funny is watching the two main Sony insiders try and explain the details in the insiders forum and they are contradicting each other.
 
TMNT got reviewd by HighdefDigest.com
4 1/2 stars out of 5 for PQ and SQ :applause:
Want your jaw to drop? Skip to the scene where Leo fights Raph atop a neon-lit building in the rain -- note the droplets of water as they splash on the turtles and cascade to the ground. Even better, black levels and contrast are dead on (as they are throughout the film) and the flicker of the lights make this one of the most impressive high-def scenes I've had the pleasure of watching. The entire image is much darker than one might expect from an animated film, but it provides the picture with dimension that crafts a considerable illusion of depth.

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While 'TMNT' may be convoluted and nonsensical at times, it has some of the finest animated fight scenes and CG animation I've seen in a long time. Likewise, this HD DVD release is a technical wonder with an excellent video transfer and an impressive Dolby TrueHD audio mix.
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http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/902/tmnt.html
 
[quote name='rodeojones903']Then what is the point of making blu-ray camcorders?

http://hometheater.about.com/b/a/211390.htm

http://news.com.com/Hitachi+concocting+Blu-ray+camcorder/2100-1041_3-6122116.html[/QUOTE]

Exactly everyone's question.

Nobody knows for sure yet, not even Sony insiders, but it appears that camcorder discs should play on BD players. The problem is when people try to use some advanced mode of authoring to do their own professional menus. There is question that it won't work. They are blaming the studios for demanding AACS for burnable media.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Exactly everyone's question.

Nobody knows for sure yet, not even Sony insiders, but it appears that camcorder discs should play on BD players. The problem is when people try to use some advanced mode of authoring to do their own professional menus. There is question that it won't work. They are blaming the studios for demanding AACS for burnable media.[/QUOTE]

Basically you can playback a dumbed down camcorder movie but if you try to use any of the new hidef features such as nice menus, pip, or virtually anything more than standard DVD is capable of, you are out of luck.
 
Oh, if anybody is thinking about importing The Pianist, do it as quickly as possible.

Fantastic movie that pisses all over Schindler's List and the picture quality is pretty decent for imports.
 
On an interesting turn of events...I checked myexpresscheckout.com for the status on my TMNT and it now says it shipped Monday with a delivery date of today. Hopefully I'll be able to stay up tonight to watch it.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']The forced subtitles on the theatrical are resizeable, you can make them sit solely in the black bar.[/QUOTE]
I am aware of this...but they're still visible, correct? No thanks.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']I am aware of this...but they're still visible, correct? No thanks.[/QUOTE]

Again, in the black bar....on the Theatrical version (disc 1) only.

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You could take a black piece of paper and prop it in front of your TV or if the thought of them being there really send you up the walls, you could sell the bonus disc for just about half the price of the whole thing.

Buying the UK version is basically buying a gimped French copy with English packaging for the same amount of money.
 
Picked up TMNT, Hot Fuzz, 40 Year Old Virgin, and Bourne Identity this week.

Kevin Monroe is extremely boring on the TMNT features. Maybe I'm completely retarded, but is there any way to watch the delete scenes, etc. without him talking over them? Fantastic transfer though.

I'm a little disappointed with the special features on Hot Fuzz. There's an insane amount of them,yes, but they all feel like Universal Exec's sat around and said "Take all the Shaun neat features (botched censor, etc.) and redo them for this movie"

Nick Frost stole the movie though. I really thought it'd be Shaun of the Dead with Cop movies, but Pegg and Wright really did their homework. All the little things officers quirks are in the movie.

I'm sure its been covered infinitely amount of times, but how are the HD DVD exclusive features on Smoking Aces? The Assassin tracker looked cool on the back, but is it pretty useless?
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']rabidmonkeys, really - unless you know what you're talking about, don't start spouting off nonsense about how learned you are in HD technology.

I'll be grabbing this barring bad reviews... (Queen Rocks Montreal announcement)[/QUOTE]

Right, because that is exactly what I did... Thank you for continually driving this OT. If you want to speak to me feel free to PM me. Don't bring it back here.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Oh, if anybody is thinking about importing The Pianist, do it as quickly as possible.

Fantastic movie that pisses all over Schindler's List and the picture quality is pretty decent for imports.[/QUOTE]

mine actually just got here today, can't wait to watch it

not much i'm looking to pick up for HD DVD this month, maybe Dawn of the Dead and that Bell Witch movie if it gets good reviews

might pick up lookout and vacancy on blu ray, liked both of those in theater
 
[quote name='rsigley']mine actually just got here today, can't wait to watch it

not much i'm looking to pick up for HD DVD this month, maybe Dawn of the Dead and that Bell Witch movie if it gets good reviews

might pick up lookout and vacancy on the other formats, liked both of those in theater[/QUOTE]

I don't think you will be disappointed with it.

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Yeah, this month doesn't have alot that I want either but after that it's going to ramp up.

August: What Dreams May Come, Dawn Of The Dead
September: Best Of HD-DVD Vol 3, Next, The Wild Bunch
October: A Room With A View, Galapagos, 2001, A Clockwork Orange, Eyes Wide Shut, Full Metal Jacket, The Shining
November: Queen Rocks Montreal
December: Blade Runner: Complete Collection

Thankfully most of those are already paid for. :)
 
Discovery's version of Planet Earth reviewed
http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/984/planetearth_us.html

Once again, we're left out in the cold regarding "Planet Earth - The Future"

This Discovery Channel domestic version of the series ends up being quite different from its next-gen predecessor. On the content side, over 50 minutes worth of content has been snipped, yet a half hour of supplements have been added. And while some may prefer Sigourney Weaver's narration over the BBC's David Attenborough, the video on this edition is clearly inferior to the five star BBC version.

I was holding out on Planet Earth just in case Discovery added a hi-def version of "Planet Earth - The Future"
 
Wow, the BBC version has better PQ according to both reviews...guess it was good to be an early adopter on that one :D

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Anyone think that Universal will eventually stop selling their movies on DVD and sell them strictly on HD DVD/DVD combos? I read a thread over on the HighDefDigest.com forums and this guy brought up a great point...if they dropped the HD DVD/DVD combos to at the most $19.99 and released the movie only in the combo format, DVD consumers would be forced to buy the HD DVD/DVD combo and thus would help out the HD DVD camp...when average Joe consumer buys "The Bourne Ultimatum" on HD DVD/DVD and other titles...later down the road when he's looking to upgrading to HD, he can look at his collection and the obvious choice would be HD DVD.

Does anyone think that can potentially happen in the near future?
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Anyone think that Universal will eventually stop selling their movies on DVD and sell them strictly on HD DVD/DVD combos? I read a thread over on the HighDefDigest.com forums and this guy brought up a great point...if they dropped the HD DVD/DVD combos to at the most $19.99 and released the movie only in the combo format, DVD consumers would be forced to buy the HD DVD/DVD combo and thus would help out the HD DVD camp...when average Joe consumer buys "The Bourne Ultimatum" on HD DVD/DVD and other titles...later down the road when he's looking to upgrading to HD, he can look at his collection and the obvious choice would be HD DVD.

Does anyone think that can potentially happen in the near future?[/QUOTE]

That will never ever happen.

They aren't going to risk sales from their DVD cash cow for what is basically 1% of the market.

At this point I don't believe that Universal is trying to win the "format war", they are just holding on until combo players become the standard.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']That will never ever happen.

They aren't going to risk sales from their DVD cash cow for what is basically 1% of the market.

At this point I don't believe that Universal is trying to win the "format war", they are just holding on until combo players become the standard.[/quote]

I'm just saying if they drop it down to the MSRP of a regular DVD...they could drive HD DVD up, though I could see how the red HD DVD cases will confuse certain consumers.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']

Does anyone think that can potentially happen in the near future?[/QUOTE]

Not a chance. The average consumer is too uninformed. If it did take place, I'd imagine the Target Customer Service area would be full of people complaining one side of their DVD wouldn't play in their player. To this day, many consumers are still blown away by "Black bars ruining my pictures"

There was a discussion on some forum (AVS maybe?) about Sony's upcoming Blu-ray displays during this Christmas season. Someone pointed out three plausible scenarios that will most likely happen (I'm paraphrasing of course)

1) A customer will pick up the blu-ray disc. Ask a worker for more information. Be turned off by the price of the player and put it back.

2) A customer will pick up the blu-ray disc. Ask a worker for more information. Will purchase the player and the disc.

and the third option, and most reaslistic

3) A customer will pick up the blu-ray disc. Ask a worker for more information. Take it home. Return it two hours later complaining it won't work in their DVD player.

I'd like to see more "downgrading" from Universal like they did with Army of Darkness and Unleashed. Maybe offer the combo discs for a six month period, giving everyone who'd want a combo disc ample time to purchase them.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']That will never ever happen.

They aren't going to risk sales from their DVD cash cow for what is basically 1% of the market. [/quote]



I disagree. I think HD DVD must do this if they want to stay in the market, it's just a question of when.

From what I understand, the price of making HD DVD's is really quite low. Simply selling combos instead of DVD's wouldn't cost that much more if they replaced DVD's, because they would sell as much as DVD's. They would also not be any more expensive than DVD's to the consumer.

I would also think they would put combos in entirely different packaging than HD DVD's so DVD consumers could know they are getting a DVD with HD DVD as a bonus, to avoid confusion.

At this point I don't believe that Universal is trying to win the "format war", they are just holding on until combo players become the standard.
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Combos can't become the standard until they replace dvd's on shelves.

All I know is it's got to be well known to all in the HD DVD camp that if something like that happened, they would win the war hands down almost immediately. It's just a question of how much the studios care about HD adoption.

My greatest hope for HD DVD is that this happens sooner than later.
 
what dreams may come should be graphically stunning...I remember seeing that with my wife when it came out and the visuals, for the time, where very nice.
 
The preorder link for the UK HD-DVD verison of Pan's Labyrinth is up over at Amazon.co.uk

£18.74

Set for release November 12th

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pans-Labyri...-3167656?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1186785095&sr=8-13

[quote name='ryanbph']what dreams may come should be graphically stunning...I remember seeing that with my wife when it came out and the visuals, for the time, where very nice.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, mine shipped from buy.com today.

I should hopefully have it next week along with my movies from Blockbuster.com (TMNT, Matrix, Disturbia)

[quote name='thrustbucket']Combos can't become the standard until they replace dvd's on shelves.[/QUOTE]

I disagree.

As player prices come down it's only a matter of time until somebody releases a reasonable priced combo.

People don't want to fuck around with two formats or choose one. They want the easiest fix.
 
[quote name='terribledeli']

How was Knocked Up, by the way?[/QUOTE]

I haven't seen it, but it is pretty much the most highly rated comedy of the year so far. Superbad could replace it though.
 
I really enjoyed Knocked Up in the theater, and would put it above 40 year old Virgin in preference. Superbad is really funny, reminded me a lot of movies like Porky's minus the nudity, but I rate Knocked Up a little above it too.
 
Good news for combo haters.

Warner waves bye-bye to just about all of their combo releases.

Well, on selected titles anyway... Warner Home Video have announced the US HD DVD re-release of several titles, all previously issued as HD DVD Combos, as regular single-sided HD DVD releases on 2nd October 2007. Beyond that there is absolutely no difference in terms of content, with everything previously found on the HD DVD sides present and accounted for, while retail prices are dropped in-line with their Blu-ray and non-combo counterparts (so $34.99 SRP on New Releases, and $28.99 SRP on Catalogue titles).

Titles priced at $34.99 SRP are: The Ant Bully, The Departed, The Fountain, Happy Feet, Lady in the Water, The Lake House, Letters from Iwo Jima, Rumor Has It and Superman Returns

Titles priced at $28.99 SRP are: Good Night, and Good Luck and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
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http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=65599
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Good news for combo haters.

Warner waves bye-bye to just about all of their combo releases.



http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=65599[/QUOTE]

Insiders have indicated that combos from Warner are not going away. Instead, they will take the "Universal" approach - combos first, then they will release them as standard HD DVDs later at a lower price.
 
Wow, here's a movie I never expected to see released in HD anytime soon but I guess I should have learned my lesson when Tremors was on Universal's leaked release list.

The Omega Man has been announced for November 12th

http://whv.warnerbros.com/WHVPORTAL/Portal/product.jsp?OID=23281
http://whv.warnerbros.com/WHVPORTAL/Portal/product.jsp?OID=23282

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[quote name='Ruined']Insiders have indicated that combos from Warner are not going away. Instead, they will take the "Universal" approach - combos first, then they will release them as standard HD DVDs later at a lower price.[/QUOTE]

But Universal doesn't do that. They only canned combos for their catalog releases, never have they re-released a day-and-date release.
 
finally got around to seeing hot fuzz

boy this is one good looking disc.. i actually enjoyed the movie and i thought it was alot better than shaun of the dead
 
I was going to pick up a couple of those Warner combos. I guess I'll hold off for now.

I found it buried a while back, but BBC's Robin Hood Series 1 is coming to HD DVD in the UK in November. Since my wife loved that series, I guess I already know what my first import will end being.

Sign me up for the Omega Man as well.
 
Got The Road Warrior in the mail from the Warner sale yesterday. Love that movie. I could have sworn I saw Mad Max was coming (as in import, anyway) as well...that would be nice. Not a big fan of the third film so no big loss there if it never comes out.

I need to get Hot Fuzz, I've seen enough people I trust for opinions saying it was a solid movie so it'll be a blind buy for me.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Wow, here's a movie I never expected to see released in HD anytime soon but I guess I should have learned my lesson when Tremors was on Universal's leaked release list.

The Omega Man has been announced for November 27th

:applause: :applause: :applause:

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Bad ass!!!
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']That is most likely because the remake of Omega Man (I am legend) is coming out right about that time too.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it comes with a free movie ticket to I Am Legend.

Hopefully they do the same thing with The Invasion. I would love to have the original Invasion Of The Body Snatchers or the 1976 remake in HD.
 
Picked up Dreamgirls, 300, Constantine, and the "Good Times with Weapons" HD DVD Best Buy was handing out a couple of months ago today.

My wife said they've pulled them from the back in preparation for Season 10 next week. She tried to scan it but it came up invalid bar code so she just took one.
 
Well that sucks.

My first HD-DVD porn showed up (Dreamgirlz) and AdamEve sent me the DVD version :cry:

They said it must have been a mix up at the warehouse and are sending me a prepaid label to put on the package to mail back.
 
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