HD DVD thread - Toshiba: HD DVD DISCONTINUED, REPAIR/SUPPORT CONTINUES, NO BLU PLANS

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[quote name='anomynous']I would get American Gangster, but since HD DVD doesn't get the extended version on the HD side, I'll just get the normal DVD[/quote]


ppl are saying its a minute diff. No way id pick up a dvd version over the hd version
 
[quote name='guyver2077']ppl are saying its a minute diff. No way id pick up a dvd version over the hd version[/QUOTE]

It's 17 minutes but it doesn't matter since the theatrical cut is Sir Ridley Scott's preferred version.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']It's 17 minutes but it doesn't matter since the theatrical cut is Sir Ridley Scott's preferred version.[/quote]

ok.. but thats still on the dvd side correct?
 
[quote name='guyver2077']ok.. but thats still on the dvd side correct?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the extended and the theatrical are on the DVD side while only the theatrical is on the HD-DVD side.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']:) Makes me glad I have a Blockbuster Online account.[/QUOTE]


Just curious, how has the HD supply there been? When I was a member they were always on some kind of wait...both HD/BD. Now, Netflix is the same way, so I cannot win with either service it appears.
 
[quote name='doubledown']Just curious, how has the HD supply there been? When I was a member they were always on some kind of wait...both HD/BD. Now, Netflix is the same way, so I cannot win with either service it appears.[/QUOTE]

They have gotten alot better.

Alot of the catalog titles/new releases are available while brand new releases are usually short wait if you jump on after release.
 
It's only a matter of time before Blockbuster drops them as well, so I wouldn't get too comfortable.



I never rent so this news registers about 2/100 for me on the importance scale.
 
If blockbusteronline drops rentals of HDdvd's then there would be no way for me to rent a HDdvd if I wanted too. If people cant rent, thats huge.

The clock is ticking.
 
[quote name='Lice']If blockbusteronline drops rentals of HDdvd's then there would be no way for me to rent a HDdvd if I wanted too. If people cant rent, thats huge.

The clock is ticking.[/QUOTE]


Agreed....I used to buy all my DVD's, then I realized I only watched them once and that was about it. Now I just rent. I may buy a disc if it is something I REALLY want...but it is slim now. I even have DVD's I haven't watched ever in years. I started to pull some off my shelves and put them on EBAY...just have to get the time to list them all.

I think rentals are a decent portion of people's watching.
 
I have both formats and was really happy you could get both on Netflix, so this news sucks balls. I know HD-DVD will fade out in time, but I thought I could at least rent them till it was gone.
 
Wonder if Sony was behind it.

However, Blockbuster has been getting it's ass kicked by netflix for a while now and anything they can do to differentiate from them they might hold on to.
 
Got my e-mail also:

We're Going Blu-ray

Dear John,

You're receiving this email because you have asked to receive high-definition movies in the HD DVD format. As you may have heard, most of the major movie studios have recently decided to release their high-definition movies exclusively in the Blu-ray format. In order to provide the best selection of high-definition titles for our members, we have decided to go exclusively with Blu-ray as well.

While we will continue to make our current selection of HD DVD titles available to you for the next several months, we will not be adding additional HD DVD titles or reordering replacements.

Toward the end of February, HD DVDs in your Saved Queue will automatically be changed to standard definition DVDs. Then toward the end of this year, all HD DVDs in your Queue will be changed to standard definition DVDs. Don't worry, we will contact you before this happens.

You can click here to change your format preferences.

We're sorry for any inconvenience. If you have any questions or need further assistance, please call us at 1 (888) 638-3549.

-The Netflix Team
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I know they sell used dvd there, if any of you guys who are members could let us know if they offer HDdvds for sale anytime soon it would be greatly appreciated.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']It's 17 minutes but it doesn't matter since the theatrical cut is Sir Ridley Scott's preferred version.[/QUOTE]

But this is Ridley Scott we're talking about, he might decide down the line to do another cut of the movie. Then he'll do another one. Then a final one 25 years from now.
 
[quote name='anomynous']But this is Ridley Scott we're talking about, he might decide down the line to do another cut of the movie. Then he'll do another one. Then a final one 25 years from now.[/QUOTE]

Not really.

He had control of this movie, the studio didn't butcher it and there's no real reason why he would redo it.
 
Best Buy to Recommend Blu-ray over HD DVD

Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 04:17 PM ET
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The nation's largest consumer electronics retailer says it will recommend Blu-ray as its preferred high-def format.
According to a just-issued press release, Best Buy says that in endorsing Blu-ray, the company hopes to take a step forward in addressing consumer confusion about high-definition formats
"Consumers have told us that they want us to help lead the way. We've listened to our customers, and we are responding," said Brian Dunn, Best Buy's president and chief operating officer. "Our decision to shine a spotlight on Blu-ray Disc players and other Blu-ray products is a strong signal to our customers that we believe Blu-ray is the right format choice for them."

The news amounts to a one-two punch on the heels of this morning's announcement from Netflix that it would drop HD DVD support.
Though Best Buy says it will continue to carry an assortment of HD DVD products, beginning in early March it says it will more prominently showcase and recommend Blu-ray hardware and software products.
"Best Buy has always believed that the customer will benefit from a widely-accepted single format that would offer advantages such as product compatibility and expanded content choices," explained Dunn. "Because we believe that Blu-ray is fast emerging as that single format, we have decided to focus on Blu-ray products."

What is going on TODAY!?!?!

Its not like they weren't favoring blu already but now its official.
 
I wonder what Toshiba is going to do? In a way, I wish they'd just throw in the towel already, if only for their own financial well-being. I don't think they can afford to bleed money like Microsoft. Too bad I bought most of the HD-DVDs I really wanted as there should be some even nicer clearance sales other than the big 50% off stuff that's been happening lately.
 
i remember reading an article from netflix where they said there was a slight edge in HD DVD renting, forget how long ago it was from

a lot must of changed since then

about best buy, sucks, but i could see them being more likely to do some liquidation type sale, B1G1 on all movies, B1G2 maybe something like that for the shelf space

so i hope that comes soon :D

persoanlly, i'm just going to keep supporting HD DVD until the end unless there's a difference in the titles (i.e. I Am Legend - I will be picking up the blu due to the extra content)

random, but has there been a B1G1 at amazon since the warner announcement? Or just these 50% off sales
 
Kinda sad that this is all the supporting words we get from Toshiba:
"We have long held the belief that HD DVD is the best format for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 1 million HD DVD players on the market, it's unfortunate to see Netflix make the decision to only stock Blu-ray titles going forward. While the Best Buy announcement says they will recommend Blu-ray, at least they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail."
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http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...Group_Responds_to_Netflix,_Best_Buy_News/1457

Still waiting for the retaliation with a huge announcement of upcoming titles that will save the day...*sigh*
 
seriously toshiba are just taking a beating.. they have no offense whatsoever. Why cant for once they come out and release some positive news.

How about:

"Weinstein back on board"

" 4th gen players"

"Paramount and Universal are not going anywhere"


i imagine a big corp. office with a small cubicle in the basement for the hd dvd crew to plan out their "Strategy"

They just plain suck ass as much as it hurts to admit.

It gets annoying to see the same damn response to every news. Expect cc to turn "officially" very soon as well.

Expect amazon to be our only place to order by the end of year
 
i just wish universal or paramount would announce more titles

universal has 1 release in feb (american gangster) and 1 in march (fletch), and 0 in april currently

paramount has a couple more movies, but most of the feb/march releases are either independent companies or warner delays

meanwhile march for blu ray looks really strong, especially march 11th
 
[quote name='rsigley']i just wish universal or paramount would announce more titles

universal has 1 release in feb (american gangster) and 1 in march (fletch), and 0 in april currently

paramount has a couple more movies, but most of the feb/march releases are either independent companies or warner delays

meanwhile march for blu ray looks really strong, especially march 11th[/QUOTE]

They are coming, from Paramount, Sweeney Todd and Cloverfield are suppose to come some time in April.

You should also expect Atonement and Charlie Wilson's War to get a date from Universal sometime soon.

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Also wtf I just saw a commerical for The Amateurs on Comedy Central.
 
yea i guess, i never took a marketing class in college, but it seems like with all the anti hd dvd news recently one of the companies would step up and announce titles or something
 
[quote name='guyver2077']seriously toshiba are just taking a beating.. they have no offense whatsoever. Why cant for once they come out and release some positive news.[/QUOTE]

Well, considering that they were like 48 hours away from nuking Blu-Ray before Sony swooped in and grabbed Warner, they probably had much different plans from now until Summer. It takes a while to redo your entire strategy, especially when your arsenal is suddenly looking pretty meager.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']...I don't want to bring it up in the HD DVD thread, but I find it hilarious that Kane Robot thinks HD DVD was "48 hours away from nuking Blu-Ray" before the Warner deal. LOL.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say anything .:whistle2:\"
 
[quote name='Richlough']I didn't say anything .:whistle2:\"[/QUOTE]

I don't care if you want to bring attention to what I said, but there's a reason I didn't post it here, darlin'.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I don't care if you want to bring attention to what I said, but there's a reason I didn't post it here, darlin'.[/QUOTE]

OK , sugar .
 
[quote name='rsigley']naked beneath the water got delayed til 3/4 now

wonder if its ever going to come out[/QUOTE]

We're still working on getting that title out. The problem is that not only are the retailers dropping HD-DVD, but so are the replication/authoring houses.

We put together the DVD wraparound:

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Not too bad, eh?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I don't care if you want to bring attention to what I said, but there's a reason I didn't post it here, darlin'.[/QUOTE]

So let's hear it. I can't say I've followed it any more beyond Warner (and supposedly Fox) were set to go to HD DVD before Sony picked them just a few days before the announcement. Did this get disproven or something?
 
[quote name='unlickedcub']We're still working on getting that title out. The problem is that not only are the retailers dropping HD-DVD, but so are the replication/authoring houses. [/quote]Now that's an interesting insight.

Planning a BD version sometime in the future?
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']So let's hear it. I can't say I've followed it any more beyond Warner (and supposedly Fox) were set to go to HD DVD before Sony picked them just a few days before the announcement. Did this get disproven or something?[/QUOTE]

The "WB/Fox alliance" certainly was incorrect. In addition, the idea that business moves like this rarely, if ever, take place literally "overnight," so any suggestion that WB saw an offer from BDA and, in the course of 2 days (if that) left HD DVD hanging when the latter thought they were going to acquire their exclusivity, is pure conjecture.

Fox has denied any involvement in the affair. I can find the links if you want later on, but I'm quite busy today.

We can continue this in the format war thread, as I don't want to gain the ire of the folks here.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']The "WB/Fox alliance" certainly was incorrect. In addition, the idea that business moves like this rarely, if ever, take place literally "overnight," so any suggestion that WB saw an offer from BDA and, in the course of 2 days (if that) left HD DVD hanging when the latter thought they were going to acquire their exclusivity, is pure conjecture.

Fox has denied any involvement in the affair. I can find the links if you want later on, but I'm quite busy today.

We can continue this in the format war thread, as I don't want to gain the ire of the folks here.[/QUOTE]

Of course there was nothing officially admitted by anyone in this event. However, I followed the insider thread on avsforum closely before it was closed, and many people in the industry, with high up friends were all telling the exact same story from multiple sources. That's pretty much good enough for me.

Nobody claimed a timeframe, WB could have been playing both sides right up until the end, it really isn't that uncommon. The Fox thing was very hush hush, and many sources do corroborate that Toshiba was in heavy talks with Fox, in order to win WB.

Besides, if what you say is correct, why would Toshiba/HD DVD have a 3 hour event planned for CES that they cancel 12 hours after the WB announcement? Was that planned too?

But, like I said, you are never going to see official statements regarding any of this - inside anonymous sources are about all you are going to get.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Of course there was nothing officially admitted by anyone in this event. However, I followed the insider thread on avsforum closely before it was closed, and many people in the industry, with high up friends were all telling the exact same story from multiple sources. That's pretty much good enough for me.

Nobody claimed a timeframe, WB could have been playing both sides right up until the end, it really isn't that uncommon. The Fox thing was very hush hush, and many sources do corroborate that Toshiba was in heavy talks with Fox, in order to win WB.

Besides, if what you say is correct, why would Toshiba/HD DVD have a 3 hour event planned for CES that they cancel 12 hours after the WB announcement? Was that planned too?

But, like I said, you are never going to see official statements regarding any of this - inside anonymous sources are about all you are going to get.[/QUOTE]

Ken Graffeo said that he found out about Warner's move, literally, on the way to CES.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Of course there was nothing officially admitted by anyone in this event. However, I followed the insider thread on avsforum closely before it was closed, and many people in the industry, with high up friends were all telling the exact same story from multiple sources. That's pretty much good enough for me.

Nobody claimed a timeframe, WB could have been playing both sides right up until the end, it really isn't that uncommon. The Fox thing was very hush hush, and many sources do corroborate that Toshiba was in heavy talks with Fox, in order to win WB.

Besides, if what you say is correct, why would Toshiba/HD DVD have a 3 hour event planned for CES that they cancel 12 hours after the WB announcement? Was that planned too?

But, like I said, you are never going to see official statements regarding any of this - inside anonymous sources are about all you are going to get.[/QUOTE]

If you want to believe Amir and co., be my guest. :lol: It doesn't change anything.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']what a dissapointing review for american gangster

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/1292/americangangster.html

keep the bad news rollin[/QUOTE]

I was pretty disappointed in this review also and I just cancelled my HD DVD order. I think I'll just get the regular two disc dvd instead.

I was really looking forward to it but when they don't put the extended version on HD or have the same extras as the standard two disc dvd its just not worth the extra money.
 
My take on WB/Fox and the format war since it's in discussion... Warner was being sweet talked by both sides. I thought they would hold out until Summer the latest before making a move but looking at declining DVD sales (about 5%) and since they had some 20%+ market share in SD, that's too big to hold out on. They knew they had to make a decision then and there. BDA just offered the better deal.

I don't doubt that Fox was pissed at the BDA, I mean they seemed to have been left out in the cold with BD+ on their own as well as the hardware CEMs not living up to expectations (hence why they publicly lashed at Samsung and LG). Maybe they were planning to go neutral, it would give them a boost in disk sales if current disk sales were lack luster, sans day and date releases. I think Tosh was persuading to go over and Warner, due to them having the new interest to end the war, most likely wanted assurance that the war would end. I wouldn't doubt Fox staying Blu and the payments/incentives ended up being the better deal for Warner. This is business. It's about money in the end. Sadly we will never know the details on the move. Anyone who thinks Warner went Blu out of the goodness of their heart, neglecting their favored HD DVD support, is beyond naive. They never were a fan of game consoles for movies but the PS3 I think proved itself to be the mainstream Blu player out of the lot of BD SAs.

Toshiba had their chances. But I blame them and them only for losing this war. Many times they were out but not out. Reminds me of Rocky, always coming back. But in the end they failed to market the format right, failed to get more support, etc.
 
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