Honestly, did I go too far?

[quote name='Kayden']Dogs are sub classified by breed... cats are... birds... every damn animal has a breed name to further classify it. Why don't humans take up the same convention? Oh yea... we're 'too good' to be classified like animals... :roll:[/QUOTE]
No, it's that there's far more difference in physical form between breeds of animals and "races" of humans. I mean, humans are all 99% similar. There's exceptions to the rule, but we're all basically the same model with different coloration or facial features. That's not enough to differentiate into subcategories for any scientific reason.
 
[quote name='jmcc']Well, the Chinese/Japanese one is pretty much for one reason...[/quote]

Yes. But I didn't think it was necessary to open old wounds in the forum. Those with enough curiousity and interest can choose to educate themselves.

Dane.
 
[quote name='jmcc']No, it's that there's far more difference in physical form between breeds of animals and "races" of humans. I mean, humans are all 99% similar. There's exceptions to the rule, but we're all basically the same model with different coloration or facial features. That's not enough to differentiate into subcategories for any scientific reason.[/quote]


Not really. Chinese people are short, have round heads, flat faces and eyes that slant. Black people are taller, have wider noses, thicker lips and are naturally more athletic/muscular. Jews have big noses and small penises. :lol:

Not all the differences are as distinct between people as they are dogs, but then dogs have been bred selectively for centuries.

[quote name='vietgurl']i don't care about "oriental" but just don't call me charlie or chink (since i'm not chinese.) besides, i'm a girl so you'll just look dumb calling me charlie.[/quote]

Then why not call yourself Chiagurl? Ch-ch-ch-chia! :lol:
 
[quote name='Run4Fun']Originally, the term "oriental" had no negative connotations. I assume that this began to change after a famous scholar Edward Said wrote a book entitled "Orientalism" in the '70s, in which he criticized scholarly attitudes toward Eastern and Middle-Eastern nations that characterized the Orient as mysterious/exotic, and often as darker and less civilized than Western cultures. As is often the case with political correctness, it would seem the term fell out of disuse with controversy, and now is considered offensive and outdated.[/QUOTE]


So basically youre saying one person fucked it up and made Oriental a racial slur?
 
i guess its because oriental isnt used as much as the term asian...so ignorance was the motivation behind that message..but seriously..the post as a whole...90% of the audience has heard worse, even little kids...and im more than sure that the guy who sent u that message has cracked a few dirty remarks in his time...so rest easy OP :)
 
[quote name='Kayden']Not really. Chinese people are short, have round heads, flat faces and eyes that slant. Black people are taller, have wider noses, thicker lips and are naturally more athletic/muscular. Jews have big noses and small penises. :lol:

Not all the differences are as distinct between people as they are dogs, but then dogs have been bred selectively for centuries.[/QUOTE]
Mmm, on average everyone's pretty close. The only major difference you bring up, height/build goes away on a large scale. For instance, "black people," depending on how broad you want to apply that term, aren't necessarily taller on the whole. You just live in a country that prized tall, muscular slaves, so naturally their ancestors will share those traits. Height difference between Asians and other races isn't really that great either, rather it's caused by nutritional differences (average S. Korean height: 5'8", average N. Korean [which has a history of famine] height: 5'4". The average caucasian height is 5'9", btw.) Given the same diets, human "races" are usually within 2 inches in height variation.

edit: got my Koreas switched around.
 
[quote name='jmcc']Mmm, on average everyone's pretty close. The only major difference you bring up, height/build goes away on a large scale. For instance, "black people," depending on how broad you want to apply that term, aren't necessarily taller on the whole. You just live in a country that prized tall, muscular slaves, so naturally their ancestors will share those traits. Height difference between Asians and other races isn't really that great either, rather it's caused by nutritional differences (average S. Korean height: 5'8", average N. Korean [which has a history of famine] height: 5'4". The average caucasian height is 5'9", btw.) Given the same diets, human "races" are usually within 2 inches in height variation.

edit: got my Koreas switched around.[/quote]

:roll: Ok, the only difference between dogs is a few inches/pounds and they're different color.
 
[quote name='Kayden']:roll: Ok, the only difference between dogs is a few inches/pounds and they're different color.[/quote]

Well there are more genetic differences between dog breeds than there are between races of humans. Races don't exist biologically because there are more genetic differences within a race than there are between them. The only things that set apart human races are a few physical characteristics that vary widely within that race, so it's not very distinctive, get it?
 
The first thing Ihought of when I rad this was the oriental dlavored ramen.... I dont get why people are such asshats these days... I mean if someone calls me white am I supposed to be pissed since they didnt use the word caucasian? God I hate the world, people are letting political correctness get to their heads.
 
[quote name='Kayden']:roll: Ok, the only difference between dogs is a few inches/pounds and they're different color.[/QUOTE]
That's true, but that's like saying "well they're both around the same size when measured in miles." If you go by percentages, a mini-poodle is a heck of a lot smaller than a great dane, but a white guy and a black guy or whatever you want to compare are only off by 1 or 2 percent and can can easily intermix genetics. Thus, the differences in "races" among humans can't be used to classify people into breeds. So, whoever said it was right, biology doesn't recognise race, and for good reason.
 
[quote name='Stink_Pickle']Sensitivity goes a long way plus you do have a young audience in these forums. I would hate to see people drop the "n" word next and think it's funny. I hope you see my point.
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Am I wrong or that out of touch with today's society that using the word oriental is racial slang?[/QUOTE]


I kinda summarized your post to break it down, I mean absolutely no offense to anyone with what I am about to say, but oriental isn't racist, but I would have to say asian is probally more politically correct.

If you can't take a joke, don't read on!

Second, the n word is funny, but it all depends on how you use it, it is not correct to say nigger, but sayin nigga is ok! There are total differences in between social cultures. I mean there are white people, rich white people, crackers, honkeys, rednecks and so one for white peeps. There are black people, niggers, and niggas. There are orientals, asians, Philippines, japanese, chinese, indian and so on, I am not gonna even break into the spanish, mexican, brazilian and so on. I guess it all depends on the back ground you have and how you were brought up and whether or not you can take a joke.
 
[quote name='thesilentshadow30']Thats the problem with this country now, too damn PC.
You don't always have to be nice and consider someones feelings...
Get over it.[/quote]

QFT
 
[quote name='Kayden']Not really. Chinese people are short, have round heads, flat faces and eyes that slant. Black people are taller, have wider noses, thicker lips and are naturally more athletic/muscular. Jews have big noses and small penises. :lol:

Not all the differences are as distinct between people as they are dogs, but then dogs have been bred selectively for centuries.



Then why not call yourself Chiagurl? Ch-ch-ch-chia! :lol:[/quote]

There are areas of china where the people are very tall, areas of africa where people are shorter on average etc. Most characteristics are shared by all groups in at least a minority of members. Also, different breeds usually have more distinctions than simply physical characteristics. For example, intelligence differs significantly in dog species.

Also, race is a sociological construct, not a biological one, as has been mentioned. Adding a distinction such as breed would have no biological basis, and simply add further evidence to inherent differences in the mind of the average uninformed person.
 
[quote name='jennie25']
Second, the n word is funny, but it all depends on how you use it, it is not correct to say nigger, but sayin nigga is ok! There are total differences in between social cultures. I mean there are white people, rich white people, crackers, honkeys, rednecks and so one for white peeps. There are black people, niggers, and niggas. There are orientals, asians, Philippines, japanese, chinese, indian and so on, I am not gonna even break into the spanish, mexican, brazilian and so on. I guess it all depends on the back ground you have and how you were brought up and whether or not you can take a joke.[/QUOTE]


there are all kinds of names for other people-- but few of them have years of slavery and oppression attached to them. It's weird because blacks used the word as a form of empowerment (like a lot of races and ethnicities do to "take a word back") but now you hear white people say it all the time (but not usually in front of black people.)

n ot trying to lecture though-- i do agree that the word can be funny at the right time. :)
 
i think people are overly sensitive to terms describing their race. Honestly people could call me "cracker", "casper", "whitey" or whatever they wanted and i honestly would not care... inn fact i'd probably laugh.
 
[quote name='onetrackmind']i think people are overly sensitive to terms describing their race. Honestly people could call me "cracker", "casper", "whitey" or whatever they wanted and i honestly would not care... inn fact i'd probably laugh.[/quote]

But white people are not as sensitive as some other ethnic groups. I don't understand how some groups say "That's a term that's reserved for us. You can't call us (insert racial epithet here), because we can only call each other that".
 
[quote name='shieryda']But white people are not as sensitive as some other ethnic groups. I don't understand how some groups say "That's a term that's reserved for us. You can't call us (insert racial epithet here), because we can only call each other that".[/QUOTE]


my psych and sociology professors said it's an empowerment thing for members of race or ethnicity to call each other by the derogatory terms. if a white person calls a black person a nigger, it's usually not meant in a good way and even if they're joking, there's a lot of history that kinda renders it unsafe for a joke...ya know? That would be on par with a bond hair/blue eyed German walking up to a jewish person and saying "seig heil." yet, some Jewish comedians do use the holocaust to set up jokes.
 
[quote name='onetrackmind']i think people are overly sensitive to terms describing their race. Honestly people could call me "cracker", "casper", "whitey" or whatever they wanted and i honestly would not care... inn fact i'd probably laugh.[/quote]

"It's caaaaasper.... the dopest ghost..... caaaasper.... shhhh"

+150 Achievement Points for knowing what movie thats from, and what he was doing... lol
 
So, lemme get this striaght... you make a post with a semi-degrogatory comment explaining sexual actions you would take toward certain women... question the intergity of one female's sexual history...

... and this guy's worried that the word 'oriental' is going to fuck up the 'younger audience' on the forum?

Someone's got some weird priorities...
 
[quote name='DuelLadyS']So, lemme get this striaght... you make a post with a semi-degrogatory comment explaining sexual actions you would take toward certain women... question the intergity of one female's sexual history...

... and this guy's worried that the word 'oriental' is going to fuck up the 'younger audience' on the forum?

Someone's got some weird priorities...[/quote]

You say that like women are people too... :whistle2:s


:lol:
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']"It's caaaaasper.... the dopest ghost..... caaaasper.... shhhh"

+150 Achievement Points for knowing what movie thats from, and what he was doing... lol[/quote]

Kids. Casper was drinking an 8-ball. Actually, he was laying in the bathtub singing, but he was drunk from malt liquor.
 
At least the derogatory terms for other groups haven't been made into a "cool" thing or game like "ninja" on CAG. To be honest, that offends the hell out of me. No other ethnic/racial/sexual group is subject to this here.

Putting an -a instead of -er at the end of that word doesn't change the fact that it is still the n-word. I can deal with it, but quite frankly I am sick of it being used in daily conversation. It's one thing for it to be used in satire like Chris Rock's "n-word vs. black people" or The Boondocks, but seeing some people here use it in a non-satirical sense makes me sick.

my psych and sociology professors said it's an empowerment thing for members of race or ethnicity to call each other by the derogatory terms. if a white person calls a black person a nigger, it's usually not meant in a good way and even if they're joking, there's a lot of history that kinda renders it unsafe for a joke...ya know? That would be on par with a bond hair/blue eyed German walking up to a jewish person and saying "seig heil." yet, some Jewish comedians do use the holocaust to set up jokes

No offense but those professors are idiots. It's not empowerment. It's ignorant people being ignorant. Examining it in a real life setting would make them privy to that, not by reading books and listening to popular music. I went to McDonald's last year and anolder black female employee looked at me (didn't know me) and said, "You a big n-word ain't you?", because of my height. I shouldn't have to be subjected to that from my "people" let alone anyone else. That's the same as a gay guy seeing another gay guy and saying, "You a huge f-word ain't you."

Like Kayden said, I try to think of it in the same way Chris Rock does but that doesn't excuse the way the word has been glorified.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']


No offense but those professors are idiots. It's not empowerment. It's ignorant people being ignorant. Examining it in a real life setting would make them privy to that, not by reading books and listening to popular music. I went to McDonald's last year and anolder black female employee looked at me (didn't know me) and said, "You a big n-word ain't you?", because of my height. I shouldn't have to be subjected to that from my "people" let alone anyone else. That's the same as a gay guy seeing another gay guy and saying, "You a huge f-word ain't you."

Like Kayden said, I try to think of it in the same way Chris Rock does but that doesn't excuse the way the word has been glorified.[/QUOTE]

should've made it more clear-- they weren't making any definitive statements on the subject, rather than offering a p.o.v. on certain sub-groups of black people.

i agree that it's ignorant. but there are many dumb things that give the illusion of "empowerment" for ignorant people-- beer bongs for frat guys, promiscuity for dumb girls, genocide for authoritarian dictators.

Edit:
I feel like I'm digging myself into a hole by trying to explain this myself, so here's an article that explains it well in the 2 paragraphs starting with "The idea that the oppressed can empower themselves..."

http://www.socialistworker.org/2004-1/498/498_09_IDPolitics.shtml
 
I said that the first day cheapy implimented 'ninja'. People are going to start saying nigger because it looks cool and will be 'funny'.

And you don't have to black to be a nigger. Nigger = slow/stupid/ignorant individual. Like niggardly means cowardly. It doesn't mean coward because black people are, its the original meaning of the word. The same way gay used to mean happy, then homosexual and is now equivalent of 'stupid/retarted'.
 
AFAIK, niggardly is from a different root word, nigger is either a mispronunciation of niger (I heard that somewhere...) or just a slang of negro or other European words for black. While now it's used as a general slur, it was originally just black people.
 
[quote name='Kayden']I said that the first day cheapy implimented 'ninja'. People are going to start saying nigger because it looks cool and will be 'funny'.

And you don't have to black to be a nigger. Nigger = slow/stupid/ignorant individual. Like niggardly means cowardly. It doesn't mean coward because black people are, its the original meaning of the word. The same way gay used to mean happy, then homosexual and is now equivalent of 'stupid/retarted'.[/quote]

Actually, niggardly doesn't mean cowardly. It would be more applicable to the concept of this site. Niggardly means to be miserly in spending or only spending money where grudgingly applicable.

google define: niggardly
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']No offense but those professors are idiots. It's not empowerment. It's ignorant people being ignorant. Examining it in a real life setting would make them privy to that, not by reading books and listening to popular music. I went to McDonald's last year and anolder black female employee looked at me (didn't know me) and said, "You a big n-word ain't you?", because of my height. I shouldn't have to be subjected to that from my "people" let alone anyone else. That's the same as a gay guy seeing another gay guy and saying, "You a huge f-word ain't you."

Like Kayden said, I try to think of it in the same way Chris Rock does but that doesn't excuse the way the word has been glorified.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this: people shouldn't be busting out things like the n-word to people they don't know, no matter what color they are. Some people find it offensive, some don't. That's good enough reason to not use it. On the other hand, I do undertand the "mother" comparison. The use of degrogatory words can fairly be restricted to just the group that is the target of the slur, just like you're really the only one allowed to make fun of your own mother. I can call my mom a bitch, but if anyone else says it, he'll get knocked on his ass.
 
I'd rather have a dollar for everytime I've been wrong than right.

[quote name='jaykrue']Actually, niggardly doesn't mean cowardly. It would be more applicable to the concept of this site. Niggardly means to be miserly in spending or only spending money where grudgingly applicable.

google define: niggardly[/quote]
 
[quote name='Kayden']You say that like women are people too... :whistle2:s


:lol:[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Well... I consider myself a person. And seeing as if I stand up, my chest keeps me from seeing my feet, I must either be a woman or morbidly overweight...:D
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']"It's caaaaasper.... the dopest ghost..... caaaasper.... shhhh"

+150 Achievement Points for knowing what movie thats from, and what he was doing... lol[/quote]

Kids, Casper was sitting in a bathtub drinkin a 40 ouncer.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Kids, Casper was sitting in a bathtub drinkin a 40 ouncer.[/quote]

Virgins. I love'em. No scabs. No diseeeezes. Nothing but pure pleasure.
 
Nice Nice, I was referring to the end where he sang it while raping the Aids chick. But I'm surprised anyone still remembers kids all the same.

[quote name='shieryda']Kids. Casper was drinking an 8-ball. Actually, he was laying in the bathtub singing, but he was drunk from malt liquor.[/quote]
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Nice Nice, I was referring to the end where he sang it while raping the Aids chick. But I'm surprised anyone still remembers kids all the same.[/quote]

How could I forget a movie like that. It was pretty shocking.
 
:drool: so... you wanna play some games some time? :cool:

:lol:

[quote name='DuelLadyS']:lol:

Well... I consider myself a person. And seeing as if I stand up, my chest keeps me from seeing my feet, I must either be a woman or morbidly overweight...:D[/quote]
 
5 pages and still no one has posted this. CAG am failed ;_;

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[quote name='DuelLadyS']And seeing as if I stand up, my chest keeps me from seeing my feet, I must either be a woman or morbidly overweight...:D[/quote]

Cant it be both?

dont hit me!
 
Talk about missing the forest for the fucking trees, your talking about dropping some baby batter on some chicks face and this dude is worried young readers might be offended by oriental!
 
[quote name='SpazX']...nigger is either a mispronunciation of niger (I heard that somewhere...)[/quote]

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"Welcome to the third annual Festival of the Nigger! As you can see, the Nigger River race is about to begin..."
 
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