Infinite Undiscovery $27.97 Amazon

I thought the game was great, and far, far better than the bashers let on--I've posted my thoughts, in great detail, in previous IU threads.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']Ive played every 360 RPG, so its not like im talking out of thin air like many others are. Check my gamertag for games played. If people want to call the 360 the RPG System this gen, then RPGs are literally dead as a doornail this gen. There still isnt a high quality RPG to stand on its own, although i had a good time with Blue Dragon, its not going to appeal to most people.[/QUOTE]

Who the hell are you to speak for RPGers? You say check your gamer tag well check my damn collection and the 100s of RPGs I own. Look at the sig for the fact that I have 3 tattoos of RPGs. I am not trying to get into a pissing contest here, just saying whenever you try to someone can always out do you. Just because you feel like this gen's RPGs are dead as a door nail doesnt mean the rest of us do. Am I compltly thrilled with this gen for RPGs? No...... However I am very happy with it. Look at last gen and its first 2 years of RPGs were they amazing? No not really it wasnt till FFX hit in the second year that things really started to pick up. Now realize that the 360 is JUST entering its third year and the PS3 and Wii their second. Then realize that regardless of if you like them or not that there are quite a few games like Eternal Sonata, LO and Disgaea 3 out that have been enjoyed or even loved by people this gen.....and yes even us experienced RPGers.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Who the hell are you to speak for RPGers? You say check your gamer tag well check my damn collection and the 100s of RPGs I own. Look at the sig for the fact that I have 3 tattoos of RPGs. I am not trying to get into a pissing contest here, just saying whenever you try to someone can always out do you. Just because you feel like this gen's RPGs are dead as a door nail doesnt mean the rest of us do. Am I compltly thrilled with this gen for RPGs? No...... However I am very happy with it. Look at last gen and its first 2 years of RPGs were they amazing? No not really it wasnt till FFX hit in the second year that things really started to pick up. Now realize that the 360 is JUST entering its third year and the PS3 and Wii their second. Then realize that regardless of if you like them or not that there are quite a few games like Eternal Sonata, LO and Disgaea 3 out that have been enjoyed or even loved by people this gen.....and yes even us experienced RPGers.[/QUOTE]

I would say i am a huge RPG lover, more-so then most people, i started out with Dragon Warrior 1 on NES and been playing them since. Just because there is a lack of RPGs this gen, that doesnt mean that games like IU and TLR are any good. Get over it.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']I would say i am a huge RPG lover, more-so then most people, i started out with Dragon Warrior 1 on NES and been playing them since. Just because there is a lack of RPGs this gen, that doesnt mean that games like IU and TLR are any good. Get over it.[/QUOTE]

Last post ill make and then I am just going to assume your a hard head and completely unreachable. As I tried warning you, dont get into pissing contests because there will always be someone more experienced then yet. I too got into RPGs on the NES with DQ. I can remember sitting at my brothers 1st grade musical reading my Nintendo Power studying on the different monsters. I have played almost every RPG from the last several gens and I dont just mean the pop ones I mean the rare and unheard of stuff like Ephemeral Phantasia and Paladins Quest and even the stuff never released in the US that received fan translations like Bahamut Lagoon. Thats just JRPGs you can then get into PC games where I have the same experience but even own indy releases like Shadow Flare that most have never heard of.

Dont assume you have more experience then others, and certainly dont assume your experience means your opinions are worth more then others. You can bitch and moan all you want that the games this gen are no good but I(someone that even if it doesnt matter as I have shown here probally have as much if not much more experience then you)many others and most of the reviews show that your just a small bitter % that cant recognize how wrong you are.

/close discussion
 
[quote name='Xiemos']
Not only have I not opened the game yet due to my backlog, but because of the reviews. Getting tired of playing the same JRPG cliche story with the same cliche characters.[/QUOTE]

I am too. Seriously, why do most Japanese RPGs have such boring, cliched stories? Why don't they write something interesting first? I'm not necessarily saying anything about this game since I haven't played it, but...

And...the second day in a row I'm tempted by an RPG on here. Yesterday it was Brave Story. The only Tri Ace game I've played is Valkyrie Profile and it's remake, and I disliked both fairly strongly, so I'm assuming I should skip this (?). I more prefer turn based RPGs anyway (and if you're going to be an action RPG, use a mechanic I like, like Mass Effect did...)

[quote name='blitz6speed']Its pretty awful, like the majority of the 360's RPGs. Im going to force myself to finish it soon just to nuke it from my hard drive.[/QUOTE]

Well the majority of RPGs period are pretty generic and dull IMO. At least the 360 has TWO Sakaguchi games. Blue Dragon's story is mostly kinda dull (though it has it's moments) though the gameplay is still strong. Lost Odyssey, though...

[quote name='gkrykewy']Plus I'm currently halfway through Lost Odyssey, and it's excellent. Best FF I've played since X ;).[/QUOTE]

Yeah. It absolutely registers as a Final Fantasy/Sakaguchi game (Blue Dragon too). I have some issues with it that keep me from liking it as well as Final Fantasy 9 or 10, and maybe even some of the others, but it's still must-play if you like Sakaguchi's stuff, or probably Japanese RPGs in general.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']I am too. Seriously, why do most Japanese RPGs have such boring, cliched stories? Why don't they write something interesting first? I'm not necessarily saying anything about this game since I haven't played it, but...

And...the second day in a row I'm tempted by an RPG on here. Yesterday it was Brave Story. The only Tri Ace game I've played is Valkyrie Profile and it's remake, and I disliked both fairly strongly, so I'm assuming I should skip this (?). I more prefer turn based RPGs anyway (and if you're going to be an action RPG, use a mechanic I like, like Mass Effect did...)[/QUOTE]

It is kind of hard to say what Tri Ace games you will or wont like. Personally I didnt care for VP and LOATHED VP2, SO1 was also pretty meh. Meanwhile Star Ocean 2 is one of my fav games ever and SO TtEoT may not have been the most amazing but I found it enjoyable.

IMO Tri Ace is a good developer.......but their games are kind of all over and there is no binding theme or style.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Last post ill make and then I am just going to assume your a hard head and completely unreachable. As I tried warning you, dont get into pissing contests because there will always be someone more experienced then yet. I too got into RPGs on the NES with DQ. I can remember sitting at my brothers 1st grade musical reading my Nintendo Power studying on the different monsters. I have played almost every RPG from the last several gens and I dont just mean the pop ones I mean the rare and unheard of stuff like Ephemeral Phantasia and Paladins Quest and even the stuff never released in the US that received fan translations like Bahamut Lagoon. Thats just JRPGs you can then get into PC games where I have the same experience but even own indy releases like Shadow Flare that most have never heard of.

Dont assume you have more experience then others, and certainly dont assume your experience means your opinions are worth more then others. You can bitch and moan all you want that the games this gen are no good but I(someone that even if it doesnt matter as I have shown here probally have as much if not much more experience then you)many others and most of the reviews show that your just a small bitter % that cant recognize how wrong you are.

/close discussion[/QUOTE]

Thats fine and nifty, but people here are wondering if this game is worth purchasing at this price, as someone who has played rpg's all his life, i advised against it. Boohoo. I know its hard to fathom, but not everyone likes every rpg just because its a rpg. This game bombed at retail and in reviews, it will be bargain basement in no time, just save your funds and purchase it for 14.99 or less soon enough.

And i still stand with my opinion that blue dragon is excellent, but the story/art were very weak. Gameplay is so solid tho.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']Thats fine and nifty, but people here are wondering if this game is worth purchasing at this price, as someone who has played rpg's all his life, i advised against it. Boohoo. I know its hard to fathom, but not everyone likes every rpg just because its a rpg. This game bombed at retail and in reviews, it will be bargain basement in no time, just save your funds and purchase it for 14.99 or less soon enough.

And i still stand with my opinion that blue dragon is excellent, but the story/art were very weak. Gameplay is so solid tho.[/QUOTE]

I feel the same way ab out Blue Dragon. The story was weak (but had it's moments) but the gameplay was rock solid Sakaguchi. Lost Odyssey though combines the rock solid gameplay with a good story too...although for a fan like me I had to play both :)

And boy did that Xbox VGA cable Microsoft sells come in handy for the random leveling up! hee hee hee :D
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']Thats fine and nifty, but people here are wondering if this game is worth purchasing at this price, as someone who has played rpg's all his life, i advised against it. Boohoo. I know its hard to fathom, but not everyone likes every rpg just because its a rpg. This game bombed at retail and in reviews, it will be bargain basement in no time, just save your funds and purchase it for 14.99 or less soon enough.

And i still stand with my opinion that blue dragon is excellent, but the story/art were very weak. Gameplay is so solid tho.[/QUOTE]

Did I say that every RPG is worth playing? No, I just pointed out how moronic it is to call a game trash when so many like it and it got decent reviews. Anyone that isnt a complete child can see quality in a halfway decent game if they just freaking try. I have disliked every 3D Zelda.....yet I am still able to see why they are such quality titles. And a better example would be Skies of Arcadia....I LOATHED that game, but I could see why it got average reviews atleast and why some people were fans of it. You should be able to do the same with IU and instead of acting like a 5 year old tossing a tantrum because he dislikes something instead be able to say meh I hated this game but I can see where others might like it.

And again you proove what a child you are by saying it bombed in reviews. A 7 is not a bomb and again if you discount the few hack no name child review sites and just go by gametrailers, IGN, EGM and the other pros in the industry it shoots up to mid 7 to 8 range. Hardly a bomb. The only people that see it as a bomb are children that cant set aside their own biased views.

*smacks himself for wasting time on another post on children*

And Blue Dragon is underrated but its a joke to call it an excellent RPG or say its game play was amazing. The game play had all the right elements to be amazing but the balance of the game was just so completely out of wack. It was way too freaking easy most of the game then later on a few of the bosses were just insane. The skills also tended to come way to fast then way to slow. But hey you can only recognize your own view.....so ya guess it wont matter you will just go off on a rant about how your experienced and thus everyone else is wrong.
 
D'oh... should've waited for the limited edition price to drop.

If anyone wants to sell the print that comes with the LE for a few bucks, please PM me.
 
Anyone who either praises or hates this game without playing it is a moron and should be ignored in this thread. I don't care how much of a genre specific fan you are. And you can't base your judgment solely on reviewers and hype. If you haven't played the game, just stfu.

On a more relevant note, I see this game continuing to drop and I'm still in the middle of Vesperia (which is a beautiful game, btw) so I'll wait. If you need an RPG fix, though, this seems like a pretty decent deal.
 
[quote name='GuardianE']Anyone who either praises or hates this game without playing it is a moron and should be ignored in this thread. I don't care how much of a genre specific fan you are. And you can't base your judgment solely on reviewers and hype. If you haven't played the game, just stfu.

On a more relevant note, I see this game continuing to drop and I'm still in the middle of Vesperia (which is a beautiful game, btw) so I'll wait. If you need an RPG fix, though, this seems like a pretty decent deal.[/QUOTE]

While you cant judge something on reviews in the sense of knowing exactly how good it is or fit to your liking, you can use it as a general indicator of quality. Reviews are generally within a point or so of the score the game deserves and I find often less then that.

I dont know if you were targeting that comment at me or someone else, but personally I am not trying to judge the game. That was the whole point. I took exception to saying that every RPG this generation is trash and when you make such a stupid statement then well its kinda easy to assume that ya your opinions on IU are probably too harsh and reviews fair.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I dont know if you were targeting that comment at me or someone else, but personally I am not trying to judge the game. That was the whole point. I took exception to saying that every RPG this generation is trash and when you make such a stupid statement then well its kinda easy to assume that ya your opinions on IU are probably too harsh and reviews fair.[/quote]

I realize that my post was ambiguous, and that was intentional. But regardless, no, I was not targeting you.
 
[quote name='GuardianE']I realize that my post was ambiguous, and that was intentional. But regardless, no, I was not targeting you.[/QUOTE]

I own IU.
 
Alright so my question still stands...if I already own ToV, have a decent backlog, and haven't played many RPGs (therefore the "generic" quality of story is null in my case), should I, or anyone else in my situation, buy this game at this price or wait for another drop?
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']I own IU.[/quote]

U own I.

But like I said, I trust most CAGs over singular reviewers (especially IGN). Hype and reviews mean diddly to me. Now, metacritic scores on the other hand can be an okay indication.

[quote name='Pck21']Alright so my question still stands...if I already own ToV, have a decent backlog, and haven't played many RPGs (therefore the "generic" quality of story is null in my case), should I, or anyone else in my situation, buy this game at this price or wait for another drop?[/quote]

In my opinion, and I haven't played the game, but if you have a decent backlog and are involved in ToV right now, there's really no rush to pick up IU. It will likely drop further by the time you actually want to get around to playing it.

Now, if you have some need to pick it up with the Amazon bonus package or whatever, that might change things, but otherwise I would wait.
 
If you haven't played many RPGs, I'd start with known great ones. Lunar 1 and 2, Final Fantasy 6-10, Chrono Trigger, and on the Western side stuff like Mass Effect.
 
[quote name='Pck21']Alright so my question still stands...if I already own ToV, have a decent backlog, and haven't played many RPGs (therefore the "generic" quality of story is null in my case), should I, or anyone else in my situation, buy this game at this price or wait for another drop?[/QUOTE]

Wait and hit your backlog. It's a Square game. Probably won't go OOP.
 
[quote name='robbart914']Wait and hit your backlog. It's a Square game. Probably won't go OOP.[/quote]

Or they'll remake it on a portable system. :roll: Effin Square.
 
[quote name='robbart914']Wait and hit your backlog. It's a Square game. Probably won't go OOP.[/QUOTE]

The shipped 410k copies and it sold less then 130k of them worldwide, the majority of the copies where shipped here in the US as well, so just wait and it will plummet even more very quickly.
 
[quote name='Pck21']Alright so my question still stands...if I already own ToV, have a decent backlog, and haven't played many RPGs (therefore the "generic" quality of story is null in my case), should I, or anyone else in my situation, buy this game at this price or wait for another drop?[/QUOTE]

I havnt played it but I say wait for a price drop. I am working through ToV right now too(think I am about 65-75% through)and have a few other games like Devil May Cry 4 and Suikoden V sitting on the shelf. Whats the point in buying another game when you have a back log as it stands? Especially what is the point whenever the game you would be buying isnt AAA and likely to drop in price.

Again I havnt played it but I say wait and by the time you are done with your back log it will probaly be a $10-$15 game.
 
Awesome, thanks for the opinions and inputs everyone! I'll go ahead and wait on it I guess. I'm not a huge RPG fan and I barely have time to play such epic games with the little time I have between full time school, work, gf, etc.
 
[quote name='eau']Seems like 2 versions on sale.

Game only is $19
Game + preorder pack/code is $20[/QUOTE]

Yeah i think im getting the 20 one. Idk what it comes with but for 1 why not
 
What does the preorder pack/code contain?

EDIT: Nevermind, Amazon describes it:

Order Bonus
Order today and receive a limited foil print, as well as a download code to unlock your choice of five different in-game items that affect your character's growth and abilities. Foil and code will be packed with the game. Offer good while supplies last. Promotion valid only when sold and shipped by Amazon.com.
Click to expand...
 
[quote name='eau']Seems like 2 versions on sale.

Game only is $19
Game + preorder pack/code is $20[/quote]

thanks for the heads up dude.
icon_smile.gif
 
Yeah, I haven't played many RPGs in awhile, but for $20, it looks alright
I always liked tri-Ace, so I figure I might as well grab it since it's so cheap :)
 
I'm REALLY tempted at $20...but realistically I'm not big on action RPGs, this has really mixed reviews, and I disliked Valkyrie Profile and it's remake.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
bread's done
Back
Top