Is There still time for the PSP to overtake the DS

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[quote name='Strell']You know how you always have a friend or relative that has a dog, and the dog always, no matter how many times you do it, will fall for the "act like you're throwing the stick when you really aren't" trick?

Thomas96 is that dog, except that he's also missing a hind leg.[/QUOTE]




that missing hind leg is the one I put up your ass... now stop talking crap...
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Unlike you, apparently, who... can...

Yeah, definitely missing a leg.[/QUOTE]




alright, well this time next year we'll see....
you guys rather hurl insults than talk about the issue at hand; people with poor insight tend to do that.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']I got a feeling that the DS might start to decline... since the psp is putting out ps2 quality graphics on the psp in it's set of 2007 games that are coming out... I'm wondering if people are still going to want to revert to snes graphics? (we'll I'm sure they will) you're saying that the psp is dead (which is getting old), however there's an increase not only in the quantity of games, but in the quality of psp games as well. Money talks bullshit walks... so right now money is saying psp in good standing...[/quote]
  • PSP games have always had PS2 or near-PS2 quality graphics, this isn't something new.
  • By saying SNES graphics, you're comparing the PSP to the GBA. N64 would be a more appropriate comparison.
  • Guess what? There's an increase in the quantity and quality of DS games; shit, it's pretty much a given that quality and quantity improve for games on any system over its lifespan.
  • The fact that you're criticizing people for "never knowing which way the industry will go" while at the same time insisting that the PSP will pick up steam and outsell the DS is laughable, especially when you have no evidence to support your claims.
  • None of your 'arguments' can refute the fact that the DS is more of a "pick up and play" system, meaning it has a strong base of games that you can play for 15-20 minutes and still feel like you've accomplished something. Yes, these games exist on the PSP but not in anything near the quantity they do on the DS. Sony gambled by making the PSP a handheld version of what is proven to work in the household. Right now, the "money talks" as you put it, and is saying that consumers prefer the DS's ideology to handheld gaming over the PSP's.
This is why people think you're delusional.
 
I think both system's will do well enough for the next generation of handhelds to come out. Hopefully by then, Sony will figure out how to make the battery last longer than three hours and loading times under 20 seconds.
 
Sony is stupid as hell for not letting you play PSP on your TV, maybe they thought that would cut into PS2 sales. This would've helped with the "pick up and play" problem Genocidal is talking about.
 
One could say what Nintendo does wrong is doing what works for handhelds with consoles. I still don't understand why one console needs four Mario Party games. Then again, I don't understand why every Mario game for the Gameboy Advanced is a remake of a NES/SNES Mario, or why except for Mario Sunshine and NSMB, every single Mario game is some sort of spin off or mini game collection.

On a lighter note, when does Gamecube go sub $50 for the console?
 
That's a good question, I think someone here was talking about how Target had a deal for a Gamecube, some $50 game, and an extra controller for $100. Probably the best Gamecube deal ever.
 
[quote name='rickonker']That's a good question, I think someone here was talking about how Target had a deal for a Gamecube, some $50 game, and an extra controller for $100. Probably the best Gamecube deal ever.[/QUOTE]

Except what Gamecube game is really still worth $50? Fire Emblem, Batallion Wars, Chibi Robo, Baten Kaitos..many of the recent "bigger" titles have been sold at several stores for under $20..

The only games I can think of are newer third party games..Marvel..Avatar..Happy Feet..but even those aren't worth the $50

Anyways...I am hoping the Gamecube would go under $50 like the dreamcast..there are some "third party exclusives" I wish I could play [Harvest Moon Magical Melody..]
 
[quote name='sarausagi']One could say what Nintendo does wrong is doing what works for handhelds with consoles. I still don't understand why one console needs four Mario Party games. Then again, I don't understand why every Mario game for the Gameboy Advanced is a remake of a NES/SNES Mario, or why except for Mario Sunshine and NSMB, every single Mario game is some sort of spin off or mini game collection. [/quote]

Because all those games make insane amounts of money with little development costs. We all hate it but parents buy this crap by the boatload. A parent can go out and buy Mario Party 1,986 for the tykes and they'll be happy because they liked the other 1,985 Mario Parties.
 
[quote name='sarausagi']Except what Gamecube game is really still worth $50? Fire Emblem, Batallion Wars, Chibi Robo, Baten Kaitos..many of the recent "bigger" titles have been sold at several stores for under $20..

The only games I can think of are newer third party games..Marvel..Avatar..Happy Feet..but even those aren't worth the $50

Anyways...I am hoping the Gamecube would go under $50 like the dreamcast..there are some "third party exclusives" I wish I could play [Harvest Moon Magical Melody..][/QUOTE]
Yeah, but I think this was like a year ago. Back then it really was worth $50 I guess.
 
[quote name='rickonker']That's a good question, I think someone here was talking about how Target had a deal for a Gamecube, some $50 game, and an extra controller for $100. Probably the best Gamecube deal ever.[/QUOTE]


that's referring to the chrismas bundle that Nintendo had. platnium gamecube, 2 controllers and mario kart for 100.00.... whooooooo that was a good deal.. I had to jump on that!
 
[quote name='Thomas96']that's referring to the chrismas bundle that Nintendo had. platnium gamecube, 2 controllers and mario kart for 100.00.... whooooooo that was a good deal.. I had to jump on that![/QUOTE]
Yeah that sounds like a good deal...are they still even making Gamecubes?
 
[quote name='Genocidal']
  • PSP games have always had PS2 or near-PS2 quality graphics, this isn't something new.
  • By saying SNES graphics, you're comparing the PSP to the GBA. N64 would be a more appropriate comparison.
  • Guess what? There's an increase in the quantity and quality of DS games; shit, it's pretty much a given that quality and quantity improve for games on any system over its lifespan.
  • The fact that you're criticizing people for "never knowing which way the industry will go" while at the same time insisting that the PSP will pick up steam and outsell the DS is laughable, especially when you have no evidence to support your claims.
  • None of your 'arguments' can refute the fact that the DS is more of a "pick up and play" system, meaning it has a strong base of games that you can play for 15-20 minutes and still feel like you've accomplished something. Yes, these games exist on the PSP but not in anything near the quantity they do on the DS. Sony gambled by making the PSP a handheld version of what is proven to work in the household. Right now, the "money talks" as you put it, and is saying that consumers prefer the DS's ideology to handheld gaming over the PSP's.
This is why people think you're delusional.[/QUOTE]


- it's not just a matter of having near/ or ps2 quality games.. .when did the psp have quality games.... wasn't up until gta lcs, almost a year after the system was out, and this year and 2007 will bring the most quality games the psp has ever had.

- there's only one game on the ds that has near n64 quality graphics and that was the super mario 64, because star fox, new super mario, metroid, mario kart all have snes graphics, as with most of the ds games. Actually, I'll say that ds is up to early ps1 graphics (and that's due to Final Fantasy III, just coming out, which is the only quality title that came out 4th quarter 2006).

- the ds didn't even have any big games for the chrismas season... not like the psp did. (and I'm not the only one to say that!)

- the ds never had any bad games, no one is worried about trying to improve the quality of ds games.

- your quoting an article that was listed on pspfanboy where they were talking about the psp being played mostly at home and (100,000 sale of mgs po in japan article) then you talk about the psp isn't as much as pick up and play as the DS. Well the psp certainly has more 'game' within each of their titles... but both system you can turn off the system and continue the game later, so your argument is silly. Making the game more suited is a developer issue, and not a hardware issue.


oh thanks now I see...
 
[quote name='Thomas96']- it's not just a matter of having near/ or ps2 quality games.. .when did the psp have quality games.... wasn't up until gta lcs, almost a year after the system was out, and this year and 2007 will bring the most quality games the psp has ever had.

- there's only one game on the ds that has near n64 quality graphics and that was the super mario 64, because star fox, new super mario, metroid, mario kart all have snes graphics, as with most of the ds games. Actually, I'll say that ds is up to early ps1 graphics (and that's due to Final Fantasy III, just coming out, which is the only quality title that came out 4th quarter 2006).

- the ds didn't even have any big games for the chrismas season... not like the psp did. (and I'm not the only one to say that!)

- the ds never had any bad games, no one is worried about trying to improve the quality of ds games.

- your quoting an article that was listed on pspfanboy where they were talking about the psp being played mostly at home and (100,000 sale of mgs po in japan article) then you talk about the psp isn't as much as pick up and play as the DS. Well the psp certainly has more 'game' within each of their titles... but both system you can turn off the system and continue the game later, so your argument is silly. Making the game more suited is a developer issue, and not a hardware issue.


oh thanks now I see...[/QUOTE]

Wait a minute, a completely anti Nintendo Sony fan girl can appreciate and enjoy dozens of quality games for the DS in 2006, and you think FF III is the only decent title this year?

I don't know what DS library you've been looking at, but it seems that this year was non stop for good first and third party games...
 
[quote name='sarausagi']Wait a minute, a completely anti Nintendo Sony fan girl can appreciate and enjoy dozens of quality games for the DS in 2006, and you think FF III is the only decent title this year?

I don't know what DS library you've been looking at, but it seems that this year was non stop for good first and third party games...[/QUOTE]

A Sony fangirl!?! You must have major cooties.

Anywho, Thomas is right. The DS has had only two things worth owning. Everything else has been terrible. Thankfully though, those two things are GBA games and DS games.
 
[quote name='sarausagi']Wait a minute, a completely anti Nintendo Sony fan girl can appreciate and enjoy dozens of quality games for the DS in 2006, and you think FF III is the only decent title this year?

I don't know what DS library you've been looking at, but it seems that this year was non stop for good first and third party games...[/QUOTE]


not for the whole year... just for the 4th quarter of 2006.
 
wait a minute.. something just hit me... some dufus said that the DS has more portability than the PSP? (ref to Genocidal) then had the audacity to call me delusional... is this the same DS with no video, or mp3 playback, no photo viewer, no inputs for SD, MS, or proDUO or anything type of flash memory... at least if you're out (maybe by accident) with only your psp, then at least you can listen to some mp3s or watch a movie, or a tv show... orrrrr watch tv if you got your location free player hooked up.. but... the DS has more portability, your're either dilusional and/ or tremendously misinformed...
 
But it doesn't have to it has to sell enough to make developer's time worth it.
One interesitng thing is there are several DS games that have sold over a million copies to date and I think only the original GTA on PSP has sold over a million. Another thing DS owners should admit that as far as portable sports gaming goes PSP does a better job.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']wait a minute.. something just hit me... [/quote] A brick, we can only hope.
some dufus said that the DS has more portability than the PSP? (ref to Genocidal)
:roll: You're making things up that I never said, for one, and you also don't give a definition of "portability" which is definitely different depending on who you ask.
is this the same DS with no video, or mp3 playback, no photo viewer, no inputs for SD, MS, or proDUO or anything type of flash memory... at least if you're out (maybe by accident) with only your psp, then at least you can listen to some mp3s or watch a movie, or a tv show... orrrrr watch tv if you got your location free player hooked up.. but... the DS has more portability, your're either dilusional and/ or tremendously misinformed...
Or... you could play a game? You know, since it's a handheld console and all? You might have to remove your head from an orifice first though, so I wish you luck.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']A brick, we can only hope. :roll: You're making things up that I never said, for one, and you also don't give a definition of "portability" which is definitely different depending on who you ask. Or... you could play a game? You know, since it's a handheld console and all? You might have to remove your head from an orifice first though, so I wish you luck.[/QUOTE]



the protability issue was in response to your statement of "it's a fact that the DS is more of a pick up and play' system. - plus like I said before that's really just a developer issue not a console issue. However due to the features of the psp, give it more - portability. one psp, you have movie player, game player, internet, mp3 player, picture viewer, tv(w/ location free), all in one, thus giving it more portability; (soon the psp will be a gps, and camera)

I wasn't criticizing anyone for 'not knowning which way the market is going to go' that statement goes for everyone, from me, to you, to every expert all over. Like I said before, if Sony does what they're supposed to do, w/ the psp, then they can overtake the DS, and if they don't, they can at least build the psp's success then use that to transition in the psp2, just like Nintendo has transitioned from Gameboy, Gameboy advance, Gameboy SP, Gameboy Micro, DS, then DS Lite; look at those gameboys... basically nintendo has ruled the handheld market with just two handhelds, the DS, and the gamboy. why? because there hasn't been any true long term compettion.
 
[quote name='Thomas96'] is this the same DS with no video, or mp3 playback, no photo viewer, no inputs for SD, MS, or proDUO or anything type of flash memory... at least if you're out (maybe by accident) with only your psp, then at least you can listen to some mp3s or watch a movie, or a tv show... orrrrr watch tv if you got your location free player hooked up.. but... the DS has more portability, your're either dilusional and/ or tremendously misinformed...[/QUOTE]

I don't care about video, mp3 playback, photo views, or flash memory. I want to play games, and games that don't require massive loads. If I'm on a trip I have a ipod for my music needs, a laptop for movies/pictures/internet and plus my laptop gets better battery life then the PSP.

Also, I would say the DS is more portable because of it's size, battery life, and the quality of games. Plus, it's a much better companion then the PSP for when one of those massive shits happen.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']
I wasn't criticizing anyone for 'not knowning which way the market is going to go' that statement goes for everyone, from me, to you, to every expert all over. Like I said before, if Sony does what they're supposed to do, w/ the psp, then they can overtake the DS, and if they don't, they can at least build the psp's success then use that to transition in the psp2, just like Nintendo has transitioned from Gameboy, Gameboy advance, Gameboy SP, Gameboy Micro, DS, then DS Lite; look at those gameboys... basically nintendo has ruled the handheld market with just two handhelds, the DS, and the gamboy. why? because there hasn't been any true long term compettion.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, cuz the competition didn't last long enough. Yet you pretend this is somehow something Nintendo deserves no credit for.

The Game Gear didn't have the developers or battery life. Same with the Lynx. The Game.com was doomed from the get go. The Ngage was a massive pile of shit. The Gamepark never got into markets to become successful. The Gizmodo was a total joke. The Wonderswan couldn't work even with a few hardcore Squaresoft titles behind it.

All of those failed due in no small part to their creators' bad decisions, but also because Nintendo knows how to rule this market. You give them no merit on the grounds that "there was no competition." THat's bullshit. There has always been competition, it just got crushed every last time it appeared.

You keep bringing up all these wonderful happyland possibilities. Is Sony going to take you out for ice cream or something if you continue to hold onto them? Maybe raise your allowance? Is it going to stop beating your mom at night when it thinks you are asleep? I can't tell, but you are looking at the PSP with rose colored glasses in a rose colored world, like it's going to give you money every night if you sleep with it under your pillow.

This thread has been nothing more than a "I think the PSP can overtake the DS," regardless of how much logic has been rubbed all over your face like a dog having its nose rubbed in its own shit. It has benever been about "can it," but "it will if these magical 329 things happen."

Do you honestly think Nintendo isn't playing the PSP as a big opponent? 'Cuz everything they've done since the release of the PSP has been in direct attack mode, and the sales have proven this. Sony cannot overtake it, they never will, and it doesn't matter how much you hope they will. Even if they did every last thing you thought of, Nintendo would viciously counter them at every turn, corner, and step. It is idiotic and delusional to pretend that Nintendo would all of a sudden ignore what the PSP is doing - they'll respond.

You need to just stop talking. This thread is pretty worthless at this point. You've done nothing but turn it into a simple question into a huge attack on everything the portable industry can possibly have contention with - from games to portability to developer support to graphics to age demographics, and every other retarded and useless discussion ever.

You are delusional. The PSP is surviving just fine but it's never going to overtake the DS. Never. No matter how much your little fanboy heart desires, no matter what Sony does at this point, it's being outsold around the world and you just can't compete with those numbers. And to suggest that they only need to do a few things under the assumption that NIntendo wouldn't respond to them is ludicrous. Like, you shouldn't be allowed to use microwaves if you truly think that.

I'm curious to see what happens a year from now, when Sony is more focused on their console arena than the PSP.
 
[quote name='Strell']Yeah, cuz the competition didn't last long enough. Yet you pretend this is somehow something Nintendo deserves no credit for.

The Game Gear didn't have the developers or battery life. Same with the Lynx. The Game.com was doomed from the get go. The Ngage was a massive pile of shit. The Gamepark never got into markets to become successful. The Gizmodo was a total joke. The Wonderswan couldn't work even with a few hardcore Squaresoft titles behind it.

All of those failed due in no small part to their creators' bad decisions, but also because Nintendo knows how to rule this market. You give them no merit on the grounds that "there was no competition." THat's bullshit. There has always been competition, it just got crushed every last time it appeared.

You keep bringing up all these wonderful happyland possibilities. Is Sony going to take you out for ice cream or something if you continue to hold onto them? Maybe raise your allowance? Is it going to stop beating your mom at night when it thinks you are asleep? I can't tell, but you are looking at the PSP with rose colored glasses in a rose colored world, like it's going to give you money every night if you sleep with it under your pillow.

This thread has been nothing more than a "I think the PSP can overtake the DS," regardless of how much logic has been rubbed all over your face like a dog having its nose rubbed in its own shit. It has benever been about "can it," but "it will if these magical 329 things happen."

Do you honestly think Nintendo isn't playing the PSP as a big opponent? 'Cuz everything they've done since the release of the PSP has been in direct attack mode, and the sales have proven this. Sony cannot overtake it, they never will, and it doesn't matter how much you hope they will. Even if they did every last thing you thought of, Nintendo would viciously counter them at every turn, corner, and step. It is idiotic and delusional to pretend that Nintendo would all of a sudden ignore what the PSP is doing - they'll respond.

You need to just stop talking. This thread is pretty worthless at this point. You've done nothing but turn it into a simple question into a huge attack on everything the portable industry can possibly have contention with - from games to portability to developer support to graphics to age demographics, and every other retarded and useless discussion ever.

You are delusional. The PSP is surviving just fine but it's never going to overtake the DS. Never. No matter how much your little fanboy heart desires, no matter what Sony does at this point, it's being outsold around the world and you just can't compete with those numbers. And to suggest that they only need to do a few things under the assumption that NIntendo wouldn't respond to them is ludicrous. Like, you shouldn't be allowed to use microwaves if you truly think that.

I'm curious to see what happens a year from now, when Sony is more focused on their console arena than the PSP.[/QUOTE]



you damn right! I do look at the psp with rose eyes, or whatever you said.. why? because I spent my hard earned money on the psp, and I want it to have top notch support from all developers and Sony. Everyone in here wants the psp to do well, because they spent their money and got one.. so wny would you (me, or anyone else) expect any less. I didn't buy a psp so that it could kneel before the DS, I bought it because I know that Sony supports their products, and there's going to be some good content on the system, and so far it's delivered. I guess you still having your mother/father or Santa claus bringing you gifts so maybe you don't know what it means to spend your own money.

I always give Nintendo their props... I own a DS! I am the very proud owner of a nice white DS, and Brain age, and New Super mario... and I think I might go and get Phoenix wright and trauma center. But even with Nintendo's very excellent work w/ the gameboy... they haven't had any true competition. Regardless of why, or what problems the system had, there has been no other true competitor that's been competiting against Nintendo, except for the psp; and that's why today you see a psp section with numerious games, and a ds section w/ numerous games. so once again, Nintendo has gotten it right w/ the handheld market, but they've had an monopoly because there's been no true competition... and that's why Nintendo doesn't bother to make an ds w/ an mp3 player, or playing videos, or doing anything other than playing games... because there hasn't been anyone to push them to do that... except for the psp.

Well if this thread is worthless then maybe you should go back to your "Dear Gamecube", garbage posts!

now you're getting just silly if you think that Sony is going to let that Handheld market slip in 2007.
 
[quote name='Midnite']I don't care about video, mp3 playback, photo views, or flash memory. I want to play games, and games that don't require massive loads. If I'm on a trip I have a ipod for my music needs, a laptop for movies/pictures/internet and plus my laptop gets better battery life then the PSP.

Also, I would say the DS is more portable because of it's size, battery life, and the quality of games. Plus, it's a much better companion then the PSP for when one of those massive shits happen.[/QUOTE]



some people don't want to carry all that mess just to watch a movie, listen to a song or two or play a game. but if you don't mind, then that's you. But still those are the strengths of the psp, and if it's going to sell then it needs to flaunt that. But overall, you're right... it's about games, and it's the lack of games, that has kept the psp beneath the DS...
 
I love how your so quick to critize someone else of being a sony fanboy when your a flaming nintendo fanboy. Every page I go on has you crying about anyone who has even a slighty positive thing about sony or xbox. Your not objective and never critize the big n so your worthless to have a discussion because you've been brainwashed and need help. Go back to you wii page and gush over every pointless detail on your wii or ds and how you sleep with it on your pillow and achieve simotaneous gushing orgasms together. I think the world gets it "Strell loves nintendo and hates anything not nintendo related", so let the sony or microsoft pages have there discussions and only chime in when it's not another anti-other guy rant. I don't see any of them crowding the nintendo pages shooting down every positive thing about nintendo. I'm not a nintendo hater by any stretch but it's people like you that make people hate nintendo fanboys.

Just had to rant a little, i've held that in for to long.



[quote name='Strell']Yeah, cuz the competition didn't last long enough. Yet you pretend this is somehow something Nintendo deserves no credit for.

The Game Gear didn't have the developers or battery life. Same with the Lynx. The Game.com was doomed from the get go. The Ngage was a massive pile of shit. The Gamepark never got into markets to become successful. The Gizmodo was a total joke. The Wonderswan couldn't work even with a few hardcore Squaresoft titles behind it.

All of those failed due in no small part to their creators' bad decisions, but also because Nintendo knows how to rule this market. You give them no merit on the grounds that "there was no competition." THat's bullshit. There has always been competition, it just got crushed every last time it appeared.

You keep bringing up all these wonderful happyland possibilities. Is Sony going to take you out for ice cream or something if you continue to hold onto them? Maybe raise your allowance? Is it going to stop beating your mom at night when it thinks you are asleep? I can't tell, but you are looking at the PSP with rose colored glasses in a rose colored world, like it's going to give you money every night if you sleep with it under your pillow.

This thread has been nothing more than a "I think the PSP can overtake the DS," regardless of how much logic has been rubbed all over your face like a dog having its nose rubbed in its own shit. It has benever been about "can it," but "it will if these magical 329 things happen."

Do you honestly think Nintendo isn't playing the PSP as a big opponent? 'Cuz everything they've done since the release of the PSP has been in direct attack mode, and the sales have proven this. Sony cannot overtake it, they never will, and it doesn't matter how much you hope they will. Even if they did every last thing you thought of, Nintendo would viciously counter them at every turn, corner, and step. It is idiotic and delusional to pretend that Nintendo would all of a sudden ignore what the PSP is doing - they'll respond.

You need to just stop talking. This thread is pretty worthless at this point. You've done nothing but turn it into a simple question into a huge attack on everything the portable industry can possibly have contention with - from games to portability to developer support to graphics to age demographics, and every other retarded and useless discussion ever.

You are delusional. The PSP is surviving just fine but it's never going to overtake the DS. Never. No matter how much your little fanboy heart desires, no matter what Sony does at this point, it's being outsold around the world and you just can't compete with those numbers. And to suggest that they only need to do a few things under the assumption that NIntendo wouldn't respond to them is ludicrous. Like, you shouldn't be allowed to use microwaves if you truly think that.

I'm curious to see what happens a year from now, when Sony is more focused on their console arena than the PSP.[/QUOTE]
 
my friends why do we still argue this? The numbers speak and history speaks. The numbers say That Nintendo portables own the world. GBC,GBA,SP,DS,DSL and so on. There is no arguement there period. History says its all about the games. NES had the games....PS2 had the games..... The old school gameboy defeated so many on the mere fact that they had the mass number of games worth playing. The DS has the games period. Even if you like few ds titles, the gba backwards compatibility always gave it that backup of games. The gba had the same for the old gameboy games.

He who has the games has the gamers.

Thomas96 look i can see you have a passion for the psp. to an extent I can respect that. I have a passion for nintendo myself and hope the best for them.
however this thread is not an outlook on facts. To cite a single game selling x number means squat. look up any sales for popular gba titles and you will see why. end this quabbble. and let this thread die and you are the main fuel in the fire. you want the psp to suceed thats good. is it possible? anythings possible. But at this point in time it is not probable and highly likely. Take pride in that it gave the DS/GBA combo a run for its money and that it is still getting support from gamemakers. Beyond that......

Ok thats my try to get this thread ended peacefully.
 
[quote name='jputahraptor']I love how your [/Quote]

I stopped reading right about there. You're going to have to try much harder for me to pay attention to whatever middle school bullshit you're spewing.
 
[quote name='MarkMark']my friends why do we still argue this? The numbers speak and history speaks. The numbers say That Nintendo portables own the world. GBC,GBA,SP,DS,DSL and so on. There is no arguement there period. History says its all about the games. NES had the games....PS2 had the games..... The old school gameboy defeated so many on the mere fact that they had the mass number of games worth playing. The DS has the games period. Even if you like few ds titles, the gba backwards compatibility always gave it that backup of games. The gba had the same for the old gameboy games.

He who has the games has the gamers.

Thomas96 look i can see you have a passion for the psp. to an extent I can respect that. I have a passion for nintendo myself and hope the best for them.
however this thread is not an outlook on facts. To cite a single game selling x number means squat. look up any sales for popular gba titles and you will see why. end this quabbble. and let this thread die and you are the main fuel in the fire. you want the psp to suceed thats good. is it possible? anythings possible. But at this point in time it is not probable and highly likely. Take pride in that it gave the DS/GBA combo a run for its money and that it is still getting support from gamemakers. Beyond that......

Ok thats my try to get this thread ended peacefully.[/QUOTE]


Do you own a psp? Because if you're the number two system in two continents, and you can sell a game in Japan (where the psp does poorest) 100,000 copies in one day... that's a big time statement for developers... hey, we need to put out some more big time games.. I know if konami can sell 100,000 copies of metal gear... then Capcom (whose probably thinking the same) can sell another 100,000 copies of devil may cry... then... you get more blockbuster titles on the psp, and then psp owners are happy, and developers, and sony. Or maybe now Konami will say hey... maybe psp is a good system to produce an more dark/adult like castlevania, then again maybe not... don't want to piss off those nintendo fanboys... ohhhhh
 
[quote name='Thomas96']Do you own a psp? Because if you're the number two system in two continents, and you can sell a game in Japan (where the psp does poorest) 100,000 copies in one day... that's a big time statement for developers... hey, we need to put out some more big time games.. I know if konami can sell 100,000 copies of metal gear... then Capcom (whose probably thinking the same) can sell another 100,000 copies of devil may cry... then... you get more blockbuster titles on the psp, and then psp owners are happy, and developers, and sony. Or maybe now Konami will say hey... maybe psp is a good system to produce an more dark/adult like castlevania, then again maybe not... don't want to piss off those nintendo fanboys... ohhhhh[/quote]

100,000 is a nice number for one game but when Dragon Quest IX comes out it will easily sell 3 million copies in a few weeks on the DS. Oh, and it will cost less to make too.

I love my PSP but if it wasn't for NES, SNES and GB/GBC games (and now PS1 games) I would have gotten rid of it a long time ago. That's like irony or something.
 
[quote name='Strell']100,000 units in one day for a system is good.

If the system came out last week.[/QUOTE]



we're talking about 100,000 copies of Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops selling in Japan on day one. that did come out a couple of weeks ago.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I love my PSP but if it wasn't for NES, SNES and GB/GBC games (and now PS1 games) I would have gotten rid of it a long time ago. That's like irony or something.[/QUOTE]

That's probably one of the better arguments for a PSP, the underground scene. I have been out of the loop for a while on this, has the emulation gotten any better.
 
[quote name='javeryh']100,000 is a nice number for one game but when Dragon Quest IX comes out it will easily sell 3 million copies in a few weeks on the DS. Oh, and it will cost less to make too.

I love my PSP but if it wasn't for NES, SNES and GB/GBC games (and now PS1 games) I would have gotten rid of it a long time ago. That's like irony or something.[/QUOTE]



yeah... from what I just read... on kotaku... people aren't that hyped about it in Japan... but hey it'll probably still sell well.
 
[quote name='Midnite']That's probably one of the better arguments for a PSP, the underground scene. I have been out of the loop for a while on this, has the emulation gotten any better.[/QUOTE]

They already took the emulator Sony created (?) for the PS1 download service and cracked it so that you can rip any PS1 disc you own into an ISO format, copy it to your memory card, and play it absolutely flawlessly.

That's a good sign, I suppose - I've got to wait until they offer up a downgrader for 3.02, personally. Boo!
 
[quote name='javeryh']Where would this thing go? If it can't be stored in the MSPD slot then it's completely useless. 1.8" seems way too big. Also, a 4GB stick is hovering around $100 now... this thing will be expensive.[/QUOTE]



it could take the place of the umd drive.... since umds are dead anyway.
hell I don't know where it's going to go... that's between Sony and Samsung, if hey can get it in there... then kudos to them.
 
[quote name='Strell']I stopped reading right about there. You're going to have to try much harder for me to pay attention to whatever middle school bullshit you're spewing.[/QUOTE]

Brilliant, you know what a contraction is, and way to avoid my points. Anyway my point was your a rabid nintendo fan who needs to take a deep breath and/or a shit and stop attacking fans of other consoles just because they want to believe that their system will come on top. If anyone should be worried about a system failing it should be nintendo and their gimmicky wii which I will buy nontheless...eventually. And since your a nintendo puppet I suppose that makes sense why you attack everyone else. If you like nintendo, that's wonderful replaying the same zelda adventure over and over with better graphics is great but please let others brag about their equally flawed and played out games and systems. Just chill out a little and go pat yourself on the back over in the nintendo forums, OK? Oh and since it's (SEE I CAN USE THEM CORRECTLY) friday you should probably pick your paycheck from nintendo hq to, remember the PO isn't (SEE) open on monday or tuesday!

PS Interesting how you stopped reading my post after the first few words, could have been complimenting you, but I doubt you've ever really achieved anything except a high score.
 
[quote name='jputahraptor']Brilliant, you know what a contraction is[/QUOTE]

But you don't.

I'm going to need more of a reason to respond to some idiot who thinks retreading things he apparently read from a few other clueless morons is an intelligent thing to do.

Come back when you've got something fun to say. Maybe you could spruce up your dumbassery with allusions to sex with farm animals. Or maybe something having to do with kumquat trees.

You know, something to make me feel like I'd need to take the time to listen to your useless ranting.

I am smart enough to know responding to an idiot who is doing nothing more than flaming, rather than attempting to speak to the topic at hand, is a useless endeavor.

So fuck off.
 
[quote name='Strell']But you don't.

I'm going to need more of a reason to respond to some idiot who thinks retreading things he apparently read from a few other clueless morons is an intelligent thing to do.

Come back when you've got something fun to say. Maybe you could spruce up your dumbassery with allusions to sex with farm animals. Or maybe something having to do with kumquat trees.

You know, something to make me feel like I'd need to take the time to listen to your useless ranting.

I am smart enough to know responding to an idiot who is doing nothing more than flaming, rather than attempting to speak to the topic at hand, is a useless endeavor.

So fuck off.[/QUOTE]


you've 'contracted' a case of nintendo fanboyism... and a chronic wii stick up your ass...
edit Wii mote up your...
 
[quote name='Thomas96']you've 'contracted' a case of nintendo fanboyism... and a chronic wii stick up your ass...[/QUOTE]

Says the person who is fantasizing of a day when the PSP is outselling the DS three to one.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']you've 'contracted' a case of nintendo fanboyism... and a chronic wii stick up your ass...[/QUOTE]

It's sad that you apparently had to edit this post, which contains two sentence fragments.

You need to sit back and read everything I'd said in this thread. By then you'll understand flaming fanboyism is not what I am doing here, nor has it ever been. Saying the PSP won't get the next Symphony of the Night is not fanboyism. Saying Nintendo has had competition in the handheld market is not fanboyism. Saying Nintendo deserves credit for owning the industry isn't, nor is pointing out the better sales of the DS, nor is pointing out how whenever Sony tries something with the PSP, Nintendo responds (beyond DQ9, another fine example is the DS getting the next true FF Tactics title, where as the PSP only gets a rehash of a rehash).

Until you come to terms with the fact that I'm only merely laying out what is happening, you'll never understand. This would entail that you could read adequately.

Come back when you can do that, which might be whenever you finish elementary school.

Until then, rose colored glasses in a rose colored happyland where Sony is going to up your allowance and take you to the movies, where you will be treated to not only popcorn, but two candy bars.
 
I agree Thomas, I'm an idiot yet he is going around with all the perverted sex thoughts, to much time with the plumber I think. Anyway I'm not flaming, just saying you need to settle down. It's only games man, you need to see the worlds outside of the mushroom kingdom you've been living in, sister. Nintendo is wonderful, magical even but chill out man, take a vacation, eat seafood, interact with some people, maybe even a girl (heehee a girl). Have a life man, smell a flower, write a poem, have your own adventures, be Strell the man who got a tan. Your whole life is defending nintendo on cag for God's sake, and quite bitterly I might add. Try a baby step, play a system with good graphics so you get a handle on what real life might look like, not wii graphics.
Let people have opinions, don't shoot them down like your star fox, let them grow like those big mushrooms in that retread new super mario bros. I believe in you strell, we can do this, let sony fanboys have their banter, it's ok, reggie won't cry, miatomato really doesn't give a shit, etc. Together we will celebrate all gaming, even n-gage, and live in peace together then brave a new world for you are strell, nintendo wii waver and life is grand.


[quote name='Strell']But you don't.

I'm going to need more of a reason to respond to some idiot who thinks retreading things he apparently read from a few other clueless morons is an intelligent thing to do.

Come back when you've got something fun to say. Maybe you could spruce up your dumbassery with allusions to sex with farm animals. Or maybe something having to do with kumquat trees.

You know, something to make me feel like I'd need to take the time to listen to your useless ranting.

I am smart enough to know responding to an idiot who is doing nothing more than flaming, rather than attempting to speak to the topic at hand, is a useless endeavor.

So fuck off.[/QUOTE]
 
The simple answer is 'No':

# Last Title Publisher Format Weekly Sales
1 1 Pokemon Diamond Nintendo DS 209,3792
2 NEW Metal Gear Solid: Port Ops Konami PSP 178,370
3 2 Pokemon Pearl Nintendo DS 164,670
4 5 New Super Mario Bros. Nintendo DS 154,107
5 9 Wii Sports Nintendo Wii 152,756
6 NEW Seiken Densetsu 4 SquareEnix PS2 152,062
7 3 Hoshi no Kirby!(Sqk Squad) Nintendo DS 149,350
8 6 Oshare Majo Love & Berry Sega DS 139,382
9 12 Wii Play Nintendo Wii 137,495
10 7 Jump Ultimate Stars Nintendo DS 134,551

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12237

This is the first time PSP has been in the top 10... DS has 6 titles which were also there last week. I realize this is Japan only, but the N.A. numbers are similar for many of those titles.

EDIT: The columns looked so nice when I cut n pasted it, but I had to fix the final rendition of them.
 
Look out, it's strell, captain of the grammar police. It's cag not English 101, it's ok if pIopel mike mastakses, we'rr humane and to orr es humano. And for the record, if you just glance over your posts their all raging nintendo fanboyism. I mean you don't come even close to saying anything positive about the competition, who cares really, You seem really bitter to, it's more like scolding people for like something not nintendo produced. Let consumers decide because that's what it will come down to in the end, regardless of who makes the better software, and for the time being it's sony and then microsoft who are in the lead, regardless of who's system sells more. Nintendo knows the handheld market, I own a ds and a gba, I even collect gba games, have about 650, but still I think sony has the winning game plan for consoles. In the end just like what you want and shut up, all of us.


[quote name='Strell']It's sad that you apparently had to edit this post, which contains two sentence fragments.

You need to sit back and read everything I'd said in this thread. By then you'll understand flaming fanboyism is not what I am doing here, nor has it ever been. Saying the PSP won't get the next Symphony of the Night is not fanboyism. Saying Nintendo has had competition in the handheld market is not fanboyism. Saying Nintendo deserves credit for owning the industry isn't, nor is pointing out the better sales of the DS, nor is pointing out how whenever Sony tries something with the PSP, Nintendo responds (beyond DQ9, another fine example is the DS getting the next true FF Tactics title, where as the PSP only gets a rehash of a rehash).

Until you come to terms with the fact that I'm only merely laying out what is happening, you'll never understand. This would entail that you could read adequately.

Come back when you can do that, which might be whenever you finish elementary school.

Until then, rose colored glasses in a rose colored happyland where Sony is going to up your allowance and take you to the movies, where you will be treated to not only popcorn, but two candy bars.[/QUOTE]
 
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