It Took 18 Seconds to Realize I Wasted $65 on WrestleMania Wrestling Thread

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[quote name='bhk']Until this post I had forgotten about this game and I'm going to go seek it out and play it now. Mission Accomplished?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I did fire up Tecmo World Wreslting before I wrote all that stuff up to make sure I wasn't forgetting anything obvious. It's actually pretty fantastic for its time. Similar to Pro Wrestling as far as gameplay but the presentation was so much better and the movesets were larger and more diverse.

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SFPWX Premium and Fire Pro D are my two favorites of the FP series...I was really into the Fire Pro scene when Fire Pro D was in its heyday, going as far as hex editing some of the download files for the FP community. Chances are, if you have English versions of downloadable moves on your VMU, I'm the one that did the translation. Looks like the site that used to host a lot of that stuff is gone now, but I'm sure someone else has it up elsewhere.

FPD was the first and only game I ever imported - but I still downloaded it and burned my own copy since you could "eject" the music files, replace them with your own wav files and "inject" those back into the file that you burned to disc. I obsessively edited entrance music and in-game music to be timed perfectly & loop correctly. Was borderline scary obsessed with that shit.

Never owned a PS2 so I missed out on Fire Pro Returns, although I did spend a little time with Fire Pro G on a PS1 emulator. The less said about the hopefully dead XBLA Fire Pro, the better.

I just read the other day that one of the earlier SNES Fire Pro games had a story mode where it concludes with your character committing suicide. It may have been SFPW 3 Final Bout, not positive. Haven't played it myself. What the fuck?

EDIT - actually found something on this, it was SFPW Special.

Suda 51 is best known for No More Heroes and Killer 7, but he got started in games as a scenario writer for Super Famicom games. He wrote Super Fire Pro Wrestling Special, a 16-bit wrestling game where, at the end, the protagonist commits suicide because he realizes everything he did was ultimately without worth.
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Am morbidly compelled to track that game down now, even though I wouldn't be able to read anything in it.
 
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Went for the Wrestlemania DVDs, but since there are none, I ended up with History of the WHC, Greatest Stars of the 80s, Four Horsemen, Undertaker's Deadliest Matches and the Essential Starrcade for $44. Hell yes.

Also, use WWEDVD5 for 5% off.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If you can spend the money on a PSN ¥1000 card, Fire Pro G is available for download in the Japanese store for ¥600.[/QUOTE]


ill probably do that then since i dont have a bc ps3 anymore or a ps2. maybe buy a card from playasia.
 
I have much love for Fire Pro D. There were some dedicated people in the community that made Fire Pro D an endless bag of fun. Not as big as the No Mercy community, but just as hardworking.

And a shoutout to Saturday Night Slam Masters.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']WWEshop.com has a bunch of good DVD and Bluray sets on clearance for $7.99.

http://www.wweshop.com/Category/Clearance/ShopDVDMedia[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I've been meaning to pick up some of these sets for a long time.

[quote name='Survivalism']Went for the Wrestlemania DVDs, but since there are none, I ended up with History of the WHC, Greatest Stars of the 80s, Four Horsemen, Undertaker's Deadliest Matches and the Essential Starrcade for $44. Hell yes.

Also, use WWEDVD5 for 5% off.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the code, but it's actually DVDWWE5. Don't worry, WWEShop made the mistake of calling 5% off when it's actually $5 off. Picked up the 2 Shawn Michaels sets, the Austin set, DX set, and the Hart set for $44.44.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If you can spend the money on a PSN ¥1000 card, Fire Pro G is available for download in the Japanese store for ¥600.[/QUOTE]

Probably a totally stupid question, but I have no knowledge of the PS3 whatsoever: How would one access the Japanese PS Store?
 
[quote name='HydroX']Probably a totally stupid question, but I have no knowledge of the PS3 whatsoever: How would one access the Japanese PS Store?[/QUOTE]

Make an account and pick Japan as your country.
 
[quote name='mitch079']Don't forget to pick up The Rock's gnome. http://www.wweshop.com/item/the-rock-gnome/Clearance/50-07871[/QUOTE]

I could of swore Rock made fun of Cena for having a lawn gnome during their wrestlemania buildup.

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[quote name='Habbler']I could of swore Rock made fun of Cena for having a lawn gnome during their wrestlemania buildup.[/quote]

He did, and then we made fun of Rock for having one of his own, which is why Mitch made the joke.
 
[quote name='Cage017']Thanks for the code, but it's actually DVDWWE5.[/quote]

It took me entirely too long to figure out the reason the code stopped working is I forgot what the code actually was.
 
[quote name='Dr. Venkman']I have a TON of WWF/WWE DVDs, anyone know off hand if there are any of high value or rarity?[/QUOTE]

Send me a list.

The rarest/most valuable are WMX7, Judgment Day 2002, Vengeance 2002, the nWo set.. there's a few others. One of the rarest is the collector's edition Trish Stratus DVD from.. FYE? I think.
 
[quote name='Habbler']I could of swore Rock made fun of Cena for having a lawn gnome during their wrestlemania buildup.

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God, those stink.
 
Dang.

Anyone with knowledge of the Japanese PSN store know if Fire Pro is on the Hong Kong store as well? For sake of navigation, the Hong Kong store is in English and I assume it'd be easier to figure out what I'm doing.
 
I wish Amazon had the option to check for completed sales like ebay, much more accurate for assessing value than just going by what people want for something.
 
Fire Pro 6 Man Scramble on Saturn was the absolute best. I had sheets and sheets of English translation that I'd use to be able to play that game. I had to order some kind of pro action replay for the Saturn to be able to play the import. Fire Pro on Dreamcast was probably my 2nd fav after that.
 
I hope the appearance of the Wrestlemania DVD compilations in the clearance means that they're gearing up to do improved, Blu-ray releases of the old WMs. I promise I'll buy some of them this time. Maybe...

I'd bite on a Royal Rumble 08 - 12 compilation as well, ideally on blu to go with the other RR compilations.
 
[quote name='bhk']If they re-released all of the big 4 PPV box sets on blu ray, I'd probably buy most of them.[/QUOTE]

The attitude era would look like garbage. It'd have black bars on both sides of the screen since it wasn't filmed in widescreen or anything (that I know of, they just got HD cameras when they made the jump to HD on TV, they used standard cameras until then because Vince was a scrooge about upgrading the cameras), then what little picture there actually is would be blurred to hell and back because of all of the logos.

Sorta like this (obviously not as pixelated, just using this as an example of the bars on the side in combination with the blur.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YH-COvBhL8

I hope I'm completely wrong and they could somehow remaster it, though.
 
High def blurring = awesome. Which might be a bigger issue because a logo you might not have noticed on someone's shirt or sign in the crowd in SD could stand out more in HD.

I gave up trying to get WM X-7 at a good price on a Region 1 DVD and ended up importing the Tagged Classics version from the UK via Amazon UK. It was cheaper and there is no blurring on their Attitude era DVDs, for whatever reason. Have a DVD player I can change the region settings on and also a DVD drive on my PC to watch it. I suppose you could also rip the DVD and then burn it as a Region 1 if you chose.
 
What makes me laugh though is how I believe the "other" WWF(World Wildlife Fund) had no issue with the WWE using their old block letter logo(ala the 1980's one). Yet instead of slapping that older design on their videos, they'd rather just mutilate the video by blurring every instance of the WWF scratch logo.:roll:

What makes me sad though is that I recognized at least 3 guys from Scorchs' video that are no longer with us(Test, Eddie, Benoit).
 
eddie and benoit were the shit when they died wrestling wasnt the same for me. i remember seeing benoit for the first time on a wcw ppv in japan and i think i remember eddie from ccw or some southern wrestling show when i was a kid ( i could be wrong) but did he used to do a bit when he tried to get people to try his chili?

anyway it was cool to see how they grew and succeeded in wrestling like stars who shined too bright too hot too fast and burned out too soon.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']What makes me laugh though is how I believe the "other" WWF(World Wildlife Fund) had no issue with the WWE using their old block letter logo(ala the 1980's one). Yet instead of slapping that older design on their videos, they'd rather just mutilate the video by blurring every instance of the WWF scratch logo.:roll:[/QUOTE]

Because that was WWE's most profitable period. The Wildlife Fund didn't have an issue with the initials for the 22 years before that.

[quote name='Scorch']http://www.amazon.com/WWF-WrestleMa...KH1M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334465971&sr=8-1

It's definitely not cheap. The original is unblurred which is why it's worth quite a bit. X8 is worth about $30.[/QUOTE]

I found an original X7 DVD at Gamestop once and didn't buy it because I'm borderline stupid.
 
[quote name='Survivalism']Because that was WWE's most profitable period. The Wildlife Fund didn't have an issue with the initials for the 22 years before that.[/QUOTE]
I still don't see why the other WWF suddenly had such a problem with another organization using the same initials that they ended up suing the then WWF over the usage.

I guess maybe they figured some wouldn't research which one they were trying to find, even though they're two radically different organizations.

It's like people who want to teach their kids about democracy but go to whitehouse.com and find hardcore XXX porn when they're actually looking for whitehouse.gov.:roll:
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']I still don't see why the other WWF suddenly had such a problem with another organization using the same initials that they ended up suing the then WWF over the usage.

I guess maybe they figured some wouldn't research which one they were trying to find[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Wikipedia']In 2000, the World Wide Fund for Nature sued the World Wrestling Federation (now named WWE) for unfair trade practices. Both parties had shared the initials "WWF" since 1979. The conservation organization claimed that the wrestling company had violated a 1994 agreement regarding international use of the WWF initials.[39][40]

On August 10, 2001, an English court ruled in favour of the World Wide Fund for Nature. The World Wrestling Federation filed an appeal in October 2001. However, on May 5, 2002, the World Wrestling Federation changed its Web address from WWF.com to WWE.com, and replaced every "WWF" reference on the existing site with "WWE", as a prelude to changing the company's name to "World Wrestling Entertainment." Its stock ticker also switched from WWF to WWE.

Abandonment of the initialism did not end the two organizations' legal conflict. Later in 2002, the World Wide Fund for Nature petitioned the court for $360 million in damages, but was not successful. A subsequent request to overturn by the World Wide Fund for Nature was dismissed by the British Court of Appeal on June 28, 2007. In 2003, World Wrestling Entertainment won a limited decision which permitted them to continue marketing certain pre-existing products with the abandoned WWF logo. However, WWE was mandated to issue newly branded merchandise such as apparel, action figures, video games, and DVDs with the "WWE" initials. Additionally, the court order required the company to remove both auditory and visual references to "WWF" in its library of video footage outside of the United Kingdom. [/quote]

Violating a so-called trade agreement is one thing, but these last two moves cause me to believe the WWF are just dicks. Also, they've since changed their name to the World Wildlife Fund for Nature. So after all that they don't even want the initials any more.

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I knew the WWF decision was from a UK court.

So it remains fascinating to me that:
1) They act like that mandate applies in the United States, where British law has no jurisdiction
2) Silvervision is able to distribute classic WWF videos (all wrestlemanias, survivor series, etc. - those that were released under the "Coliseum Video" brand) completely unedited. In the UK.

Yeeesh, that shit's never sat well with me.
 
[quote name='Brak']Garrett Bischoff is The Future of Wrestling.[/QUOTE]

As David Arquette was The Future of WCW.
 
I saw this in the contests forum about being a tester for WWE 13:

I just saw this on google news and thought some folks that like WWE and live in LA might be interested. It seems that if they select you, you'll have to drive yourself to their office and they'll let you play the game and give them feedback. It's unpaid but they'll probably give you some free shit.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/PJ923WN
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Which wrestling threaders do we have out there? Matt Young and JJSP, I think? Are there any more?
 
[quote name='Scorch']Playing WWE '12 felt a lot like beta testing.[/QUOTE]
That's many games nowadays. I swear, this is likely why I'm such a total cheapass anymore, since there's no way in hell I wanna pay anywhere near $60 for a game that's largely broken.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Playing WWE '12 felt a lot like beta testing.[/QUOTE]
From what I've gathered from everyone in the Wrestling threads that's all WWE 12 was, a beta version you had to drop $40-60 on.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']That's many games nowadays. I swear, this is likely why I'm such a total cheapass anymore, since there's no way in hell I wanna pay anywhere near $60 for a game that's largely broken.[/QUOTE]

This is the "push it out the door, we'll fix it later" era. Large companies do it to meet deadlines (EA with Battlefield and Dragon Age, Bethesda with Skyrim), smaller companies will still take time. Rockstar's good in this respect, they usually release games with very few major glitches.

There's some smaller dev companies (Quantic Dream, Rocksteady Studios) that I will definitely buy their titles on day one. The latter has released Urban Chaos and both Batman titles, and I don't remember any glitches in any of those games at all. Same with QD. I don't remember encountering any bugs in Indigo Prophecy and Heavy Rain (though I heard a nude Madison bug exists).

From what I've gathered from everyone in the Wrestling threads that's all WWE 12 was, a beta version you had to drop $40-60 on.
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It was $47.99 on release day if you PM'ed Target, then if you bought it at Best Buy, you could've matched it a month later for $29.99 as it was the DOTD on the last day of the return period. I think Myke and I both got in on that.

The game is filled with bugs. I keep discovering more. My new favorite one is when I run interference in a match in Universe mode (in this case, I was Undertaker interfering in a match involving Sting - by the way, Undertaker's interference animation is pretty freakin' awesome). I started the match, hit the finisher on Sting several times, Ric Flair pinned him, woke the ref up.. and in the cutscene, Sting's pinning Flair, and suddenly I'm Sting's ally. Annoying.
 
As buggy as WWE '12 is, I still found it enjoyable. I have a big imagination when it comes to things like Universe mode so I have no problem coming up with my own storylines and such. Hell, I put in probably 150+ hours in 2011's Universe mode and that wasn't even that good.

My number one complaint is the damn servers. It's pathetic, really. All I wanna do is download a few CAWs.
 
Being as buggy as it was, my buddy and I still played the shit out of WWE '12. Having at least one other person to play with/against makes a game so much more enjoyable, but yeah, the servers pretty much sucked swamp ass.

I bought it release week at Target with my discount, then traded it to my friend in a huge trade for his iPad. I ended up buying it again during the DOTD at Best Buy and played it for a month maybe, then sold it on eBay. My friend traded his copy (my original copy) in to Gamestop a couple weeks back, but got it back again as the free game during the B2G1 because he was jonesing to play it again.

The game engine definitely has potential to be one of the better WWE games in awhile, but the buggy servers need to be rectified as well as all the other little bugs/quirks in the game. Hell, I've played in 2 ladder matches where my wrestler got the ladder stuck inside of his torso and anytime I got outside of the ring my character model froze in position and randomly warped into the crowd area and moved around like Sonic the Hedgehog.
 
Don't get me wrong - I like WWE '12. It's just extremely frustrating to do something so basic and simple as get on their servers and download a CAW. It's literally a half hour task to download one character. I've had a lot more success lately selecting view then download, but after I download, it just has a blank menu screen for a good seven or eight minutes at it apparently saves, disconnects from the server, tries to connect again, fails, tries again, fails, then tries again and succeeds. I was able to get on one and download about 5 CAW's within 10 minutes once. It was a good day. I hope they don't patch the mod that people were able to do on 360 that allows actual pictures to be used in place of model renders for vs and character selection screens.

I also don't understand why there hasn't been any articles written up about it or anything. It's weird.

This is my favorite glitch video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrB2WnlPwTI
 
[quote name='Scorch']This is the "push it out the door, we'll fix it later" era. Large companies do it to meet deadlines (EA with Battlefield and Dragon Age, Bethesda with Skyrim), smaller companies will still take time. Rockstar's good in this respect, they usually release games with very few major glitches.

There's some smaller dev companies (Quantic Dream, Rocksteady Studios) that I will definitely buy their titles on day one. The latter has released Urban Chaos and both Batman titles, and I don't remember any glitches in any of those games at all. Same with QD. I don't remember encountering any bugs in Indigo Prophecy and Heavy Rain (though I heard a nude Madison bug exists).[/QUOTE]
My frequent trips up under the map in GTA both with a chopper and not and my one buddy being launched hundreds of feet in the air in Red Dead Redemption before it's first patch beg to differ on Rockstar releasing games with very few major glitches.:D:booty:

Not to mention before they patched it there was a 'donkey lady' glitch, where the animal and human skins would mix together in very weird ways in RDR. I never saw it myself, but there are still videos up on YouTube of that glitch.

Mind you, some of the glitches in some of the games are what make them fun to play online with other people for me. My one friend can use the one under the map glitch to get an attack chopper in there and he will fly around under the map as well as most people do above the map. He's actually chased people driving cars on the streets shooting rockets up from under the road at them before and just watching them go 'wtf'.
 
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