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Well, there's Kevin Nash who has been doing that. Still, it's good to hear something new like that out of Batista. You can sum up all his promos from the past 5 years as "Me want belt now"
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']This is easily the best promo Batista has ever done. Made mention of the Cena-Austin transition without it seeming forced, and FINALLY a heel says he's only in it for the money and titles. When's the last time a heel has said he was in it for the money? Awesome.

Cena wasn't bad either, and the fact that he didn't have a response at the end made it even better.[/QUOTE]

Cena was cringe worthy. He looked like he was going to pull out the lame crocodile tears there for a second. Go back to making movies with that acting (phony crying).
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Has there been any buildup for next week's show, seeing as how they're going up against TNA?[/QUOTE]

Nope, at least not in as far as the show has gone.
 
reallllly..... my main event options next week feature either....

a. hogan and flair

or

b. cena and mcmahon


SERIOUSLY
 
oh god, mcmahon vs. cena to go against TNA. My channel will be on Spike Tv, enough 2 minute matches on USA network that I can handle.
 
[quote name='Brak']"I'm the guy that killed your brother!"[/QUOTE]

Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that in the back of his mind.

[quote name='cdubb1605']reallllly..... my main event options next week feature either....

a. hogan and flair

or

b. cena and mcmahon


SERIOUSLY[/QUOTE]

c. play deadly premonition

[quote name='pimpster4183']oh god, mcmahon vs. cena to go against TNA. My channel will be on Spike Tv, enough 2 minute matches on USA network that I can handle.[/QUOTE]

TNA will have that, too. 15 minutes of talking at the top of each hour, or your money back.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that in the back of his mind.



c. play deadly premonition



TNA will have that, too. 15 minutes of talking at the top of each hour, or your money back.[/QUOTE]

replace deadly premonition with darksiders i think you just figured out my monday next week
 
Wow, that was a brilliant waste of my time. I saw little or no wrestling and remember pretty much nothing of the actual show. Great. Not watching either next week. Wrestling can't get any worse.....watches it get worse.....

I wish I still had Galavision for Triple A wrestling. Luchadores, cruiserweights, heavyweights who know how to wrestle, not a lot talking.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Here's one, McMahon vs. John Cena. that's the hype for them against TNA. I hope TNA destroys WWE.[/QUOTE]


Keep dreaming. NXT gets better ratings.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']Keep dreaming. NXT gets better ratings.[/QUOTE]

I missed last week, but I'm gonna try watching tomorrow's since I really like Danielson and hadn't known he was on NXT. Hate his name change, but I guess things could be worse.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']I wish I still had Galavision for Triple A wrestling. Luchadores, cruiserweights, heavyweights who know how to wrestle, not a lot talking.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but AAA has a lot of cartoon characters - the hell brothers, cibernetico, super porky (or was he in CMLL?), things like that. They also had the stupid cage with the hole on top that TNA ripped off and summarily showed to be a dismal idea within 5 minutes of being on Monday night.

I hope TNA destroys WWE, but I also hope TNA becomes a pro wrestling company first.

These new Monday Night Wars will end up fizzling because both promotions are doing the same stuff/style/production they were a decade ago - the format and production of WWE hasn't changed a lick, and TNA has wholesale plagiarized that format, offering nothing new to the table. Oh, look, here comes Eric Bishoff for a ten minute interview in the ring; one hour later, here comes Hulk Hogan for a ten minute interview in the ring. Vince Russo claims it isn't easy to write a new wrestling show week in and week out. I believe him. But I do believe it's very easy to tread water and plug in new feuds to an old and tired format, which is what both companies are doing. Until and unless one of these companies really revamps how they do things, ratings won't take off and this new MNW will be a dud.
 
I listened to most of Raw. Pretty corny shit. I turned it off as grounds-keeper Willie jumped out of the crowd and onto Triple H.

The Mad Dog Vachon induction has some weird timing for me. Earlier today I finished watching the history part of the "Legacy of the AWA" DVD via Netflix. On it there's a story about Mad Dog Vachon opening the door of the AWA plane at night, while they were flying around the midwest. Nick Bockwinkel's impersonation of Mad Dog explaining what he had done had me in tears (and I've never seen a Mad Dog Vachon match in my life).
 
Not a great night of matches, but goddamn did Vince and BIG DAVE ever knock it out of the park on promos. They basically competed to be the biggest dicks in the universe in one night, and I'd say that Vince won with his wacky fake cane walk. Bret was...there in this promo, but like Cena in his verbal debate (or POSSIBLE CONFRONTATION according to King and Cole), he was outshined by his heel counterpart. Dave never cut a promo this good before, and I can't wait to see his match with Cena at 'Mania. He's brought the awesome so far as a heel, and I think that'll continue to WM. The Bret deal though...wow...I'm losing faith in this, and it's largely due to Bret just not doing much well right now. Tonight, he was moving around better than someone who is, theoretically, faking a leg injury should. He was able to stand on it just fine at times, which was just absurd. However, video packages have helped this feud out greatly, and I'm sure that trend will continue.

They built up Sheamus-HHH really well, but I thought it should have ended with the nasty-looking pump kick of HHH's head that pinned his head between Sheamus's foot and the announce table. That looked a lot better than having him somehow flying over the table despite being nearly out cold due to the kick. At least it led to the swank visual of Sheamus standing over HHH while on the announce table.

Taker-HBK being built up with Taker making scary faces on the tron and HBK being scared of said scary faces was far less cool than anything they did last week, or the incredible Johnny Cash video they aired tonight. However, it did lead to THE MIZ PINNING SHAWN MICHAELS TWICE in under a month, which is just amazing.

Cheech and Chong getting high off of Horny Charms was pretty stupid, but did lead to the amusing visual of Cheech wearing a ridiculous fake stache and hat that actually worked at making him kind of look younger. Chong, however, appeared to be 4,000 years old. He still moved better than Hogan though.

Speaking of which, they didn't do much to build up next week's show, and it's cost them at least one viewer as I'm way more interested in Impact next week than Raw, which just has Vince vs. Cena and an Orton-Legacy handicap match to counter it. Oh, and THE MINDFREAK Criss Angel. Well, TNA certainly can't blame a poor rating on WWE stacking the deck against them, that's for sure.

I'm happy to see them induct Mad Dog Vachon into the HoF, even if their video for him was among the worst yet as far as accuracy goes. They mispronounced Verne Gagne's name wrong, AND SCREWED UP THE NAME OF HIS COMPANY by calling it the American Wrestling Alliance. I probably shouldn't be too surprised by that since they once shilled 24/7's AWA coverage with a shot of the WCW-era Hayes/Garvin Freebirds, but that was still a pretty stupid blunder and one that I hope they fix for his video package at the show itself.

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HBK - There is a buzz around the WWE locker room, and after last week, everyone thinks I’m crazy for putting my career on the line against the Undertaker at WM. As I walked the halls of the locker room, I see my peers and I looked them in the eye and all they could is look away. I hear them whispering, not a one of them believes in me! NOT ONE OF THEM BELIEVES THAT I CAN DEFEAT THE UNDERTAKER AT WRESTLEMANIA! Now I recognize the streak is 17-0, but I also recognize that no one gave him a run for his money like I have! And I also know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that as an undeniable fact, that every man, woman, and child, on the face of God’s green Earth knows that I’m Mr. WrestleMania! And I believe that I can end the Undertaker’s undefeated WrestleMania streak. But for all of my peers who don’t believe in me, I’m gonna give you an opportunity - come out here, look me in the eye man-to-man and tell me I can’t win! (HHH comes out)
Cole - THEY’VE BEEN FRIENDS FOR 15 YEARS! THEY’VE BEEN INSEPRABLE!
HBK - You of all people, my friend for 15, YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN ME!?
HHH - No Shawn, no. I don’t think you can beat the Undertaker at WrestleMania. I know you can! Know why? Look me in my eyes, Shawn, this isn’t about these people or these cameras - it’s just us, and I’ve wrestled everybody who’s anyone in this business, and I can tell you honestly you’re the best I’ve ever been in this ring! With! You wanna talk about these guys not believing in you? THE TRUTH IS SHAWN IS THAT IN THAT LOCKER ROOM, YOU HAVE NO PEERS, YOU ARE IN A CLASS BY YOURSELF! ON THAT NIGHT, YOU ARE MR. WRESTLEMANIA! Shawn, the road to WM always takes us down different paths, and I can tell you with 100% certainty that DX WILL NEVER DIE! But it’s gonna be a long time before they see you and I in this ring together again. Now I hate for that last image of us to be of us losing the Unified Tag titles to Miz and Big Show - that’s why I’ve invoked our rematch clause! TONIGHT!
Cole - At the Elimination Chamber, Ted DiBiase accidentally hit Randy Orton with a lead pipe!
(on Orton-Ted)King - You know what this reminds me of? THAT NEW SHOW NXT - WE’VE GOT A MENTOR VERSUS A VETERAN!
Cole - Orton with a TRADEMARK uppercut!
Cole - SCOOP SLAM - VINTAGE ORTON!
King - Say it for me - that’s VINTAGE ORTON, isn’t it?
Cole - I already did - HAHAHAHAHA!
King - Will this be the final chapter of DX’s story? Or a new one? Or will it be the end!?
Cole - Bret is set to give his final farewell to the WW Universe tonight!
Chong - I’ve got a great idea for a divas match - pajama pillow fight!
Cheech - Did you eat this cereal? IT HAS SUGAR IN IT!
King - Can we get some Lucky Charms out here?
King - We understand that there’s gonna be a POSSIBLE CONFRONTATION between Cena and Batista tonight!
Cole - A POSSIBLE CONFRONTATION BETWEEN CENA AND BATISTA IS NEXT!
Cole - THIS IS MONDAY NIGHT RAW, AND HERE IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY - JOHN CENA!
Cena - There’s a few people who told me that at the Chamber, Batista stole the WWE Championship from me. Cena was screwed worse than Bret Hart - THAT’S NOT THE WAY IT HAPPENED. It was about business - Dave was smart enough to align himself with Vince and Batista cashed in. It’s just business. It wasn’t the first time that’s happened to me, and it’s not gonna be the last. The next night on Raw, Dave attacked me until I couldn’t even move! We’ve both been in WWE for a long time - we never had a problem, and there were times I considered him a friend, but now…he’s got a problem with me! Ya see, you’re all like me - you see the silver lining, AND I’M GOING TO WRESTLEMANIA. I HAVE A MAIN EVENT MATCH AGAINST DAVE BATISTA FOR THE WWE TITLE! MANIA IS 4 WEEKS AWAY, AND AFTER WHAT HAPPENED ON RAW, I BELIEVE I NEED TO PAY MR. BATISTA BACK! AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD DO THAT RIGHT NOW! Am I seeing things? Batista NOW ROLLS WITH SECURITY!?
Batista - They’re not here to protect me - they’re here to protect you! I don’t have a problem with hurting you again, but these men are here to make sure that doesn’t happen. You can thank me anytime.
Cena - I’d like you to come down here and thank you now. YOU LOOK LIKE A SIX FOOT SIX, 300 POUND PANSY!
Batista - You amuse me - ha-ha-ha. You wanna know why I did what I did last week? It’s real simple - because I want to face you at WrestleMania! So I lost. You get what you want, I get what you want - everybody’s happy. And you’re right, we started in WWE together - our rises to the top are practically identical. I’m proud to see you and I couldn’t be anymore different. We are the two biggest stars since the Attitude era - we both won championships at WM 21 and never looked back! But for some insane reason, this company has decided to label YOU as the man! JOHN CENA - THE NAME AND FACE OF THE WWE! Championships, magazine covers, commercials, movies… Somehow, the torch was passed from Austin to YOU when it SHOULDA BEEN ME! I SHOULD BE THE NAME AND FACE OF THE WWE! I’M THE BIGGEST STAR IN THIS COMPANY! So I did what I did last week for two…(crowd chants Cena) REASONS! ONE, TO BEAT THE HELL OUTTA YOU AT WRESTLEMANIA AND PROVE THAT I AM THAT MUCH BETTER THAN YOU! The second reason is plain and simple - I CAN’T STAND YOU!
Cena - THAT’S ALL THIS IS ABOUT!? Some fictional torch that few talk about and no one’s seen? YOU GOTTA FOCUS UP - I WANNA BE WWE CHAMPION AND I’LL TAKE THAT TITLE FROM YOU AT WRESTLEMANIA. I’LL TELL YOU SOMETHING REAL - things worked out differently for us because I work my butt off. I’m the first one in and the last one to leave. You don’t even show up on time. EVERYONE IN THE WWE UNIVERSE KNOWS THAT I’VE GIVEN MY FRIGGIN LIFE TO THIS BUSINESS! DAVE, YOU’RE ALL ABOUT YOURSELF. YOU’RE SELFISH, YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, YOU ALWAYS WILL BE! DAT’S REAL TALK!
Batista - I agree with you. I don’t care about them - I’M HERE TO MAKE MONEY, WIN TITLES, I DON’T CARE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE. I DON’T CARE IF THEY CHEER ME, OR BOO ME, I’M NOT HERE FOR THEM! So you go ahead and keep on kissing babies and hugging fat girls while I train and think about beating the Hell out of you at WrestleMania! It’s FACT that every time you and I are in the ring together, bad things happen - TO YOU! It wasn’t too long ago that I BROKE YOUR NECK!
Cena - YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT I THINK!?
Batista - I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK! WHAT YOU THINK IS IRRELAVENT! YOU CAN GET THIS PEOPLE EXCITED, ALL YOU DO IS BARK BARK BARK. THAT’S NOT WHAT I DO! YOU KNOW WHAT I’M GOOD AT FIRST-HAND, so you know what? Go ahead - let’s hear one of your fancy catchphrases. SAY SOMETHING INSPIRING - THE WHOLE WWE UNIVERSE WANTS TO HEAR WHAT JOHN CENA HAS TO SAY! YOU CAN’T BEAT ME, JOHN, AND DEEP DOWN, YOU KNOW IT!
Carlito Chong - This is…not cool.
Chong - FORGET YOU!
Cole - Look at Ryder’s tights - it looks like you’re still tripping with Cheech and Chong!
King - I’d really like some of that cereal!
King - Rosa is his girlfriend? I thought she just accompanied him to the ring until she said that she was like church - no services here today, King.
Cole - Ryder became a free agent after ECW went defunct.
(after a Cheech and Chong sign is shown)Cole - HAHAHAHA! OH MAAANNNN!
(after Cheech and Chong enter the ring)Cole - HAHAHAHA! OH MAN!
Chong - Welcome to Monday MONDAY NIGHT RAW!
Cheech - The show’s been on for an hour and a half - or a day and a half.
Chong - We’ve been doing those magic Cheerios man!
Chong - HERE COME…THE OTHER ONES!
Cole - So it’s a pillow fight? What are the rules, King?!
Cole - VINTAGE HORNSWOGGLE!
Ad Guy - Vachon defeated American Wrestling ALLIANCE champion Verne Gagne-y to win the title!
Cole - Two weeks ago, there was a TRAGIC ACCIDENT WITH BRET HART!
Vince - LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BRET HART! Bret, before we get started, I hope you can clear my personal name as far as that accident goes two weeks ago.
Bret - I DON’T KNOW IF THAT’S TRUE OR NOT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT SINCE I’VE COME BACK TO WWE, YOU’VE TREATED ME LIKE GARBAGE. If you’re sincere about letting me have my final farewell, YOU’LL GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!
Vince - I’m sorry you feel that way. You referred to me as a world champion-liar, AND IF YOU’RE GONNA BE A LIAR, YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE A WORLD CHAMPION-LIAR! I DIDN’T INVITE YOU HERE TO HAVE YOUR FINAL FAREWELL! I LIED!
Bret - No surprise there. You can go back to the back and say BRET SCREWED BRET!
Vince - Bret didn’t screw Bret, MR MCMAHON SCREWED BRET! You challenged me to a match at WrestleMania!? I REMEMBER HEARING THOSE WORDS, BRET!
Bret - I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I’m currently a little incapacitates.
Vince - WELL I’LL BE! I don’t think I noticed. Sure, you had a broken leg and tendon damage, but even an old DRIED UP FOSSIL LIKE YOU CAN HEAL IN SIX WEEKS! AND LET’S FACE IT, YOU DIDN’T COME BACK TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT! YOU DIDN’T COME BACK TO GET THAT OFF YOUR CHEST! YOU CAME BACK FOR ONE REASON - FOR YEARS, IT’S BEEN EATING YOU! EVERY DAY! YOU WANTED TO FIGHT ME!
Bret - That’s fair - I’VE WANTED TO FIGHT YOU FOR 13 YEARS!
Vince - Then why not fight me? Come on, Bret. Why not fight me, Bret? WRESTLEMANIA, COME ON BRET, IT’S YOUR DREAM. LET’S FACE IT, DON’T YOU WANTN YOUR DREAM TO COME TRUE!? Don’t you remember who I am? I’M THE GUY THAT SCREWED YOU IN MONTREAL! I SENT YOU PACKING DOWN TO DUBYA-SEE-DUBYA! I’M THE GUY WHO SPIT IN YOUR FACE, AND LIED TO YOU WHEN I SAID THAT YOUR DAD STU WAS GONNA BE IN THIS YEAR’S HALL OF FAME!? IS THAT MOTIVATION ENOUGH FOR YOU, BRET!? WHAT ABOUT HAVING YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE!? IF YOU’RE NOT GONNA DO IT FOR YOURSELF, DO IT FOR ALL YOUR FANS ALL OVER THE WORLD! THEY WANNA SEE BRET BACK IN THE RING ONE MORE TIME! You may not be at 100%, BUT YOU’RE A CANADIAN HERO, YOU’RE BRET HART, YOU CAN DO THIS! YOU CAN’T LET THESE PEOPLE DOWN!? Would everybody here like to see Bret in a match at WrestleMania with me!?
Bret - I know what you’re trying to do - goad me into a match. I CAN’T WRESTLE, I’VE GOT A BROKEN LEG, IDIOT!
Vince - Bret, I hate to hear those words. Your last name used to stand for something, but now you’ve got no heart! And you know who you are? YOU LET THE PEOPLE DOWN, YOU LET ME DOWN, BRET HART - YOU’RE A COWARD! (Vince kicks crutch out from under Bret) COWARD! THERE HE IS - COWARD! ROTTEN TO THE CORE! YOU’VE GOT NOTHING!
Bret - YOU WANT A MATCH AT WRESTLEMANIA? YOU’VE GOT IT!
Vince - Just one other thing, Bret. You may not be at 100%, but I am. NEXT WEEK, I’M GONNA BE IN A MATCH ON RAW! I’m gonna take on your biggest fan - I want you to be somewhere at home watching when I take on one-on-one JOHN CENA!
Fan - SHEAMUS, YOU NEED A TAN!
 
WWE may suck balls, but as a company, they're smart enough to know that TNA (currently) is unable to produce any worthwhile programming that poses a threat to its viewership. A McMahon-Cena match exemplifies this, "We're gonna put up garbage and you'll still struggle to compete with our 'C' show."

Remind me, but didn't last week's premiere of NXT outperform TNA's 1/4 live show?

It's especially maddening when people expect grand things from TNA next week in hopes that it will crush the WWE. I'd imagine these are the same folks that marked out during the 1/4 show and then proceeded to watch in horror as Hall and Pac did the EXACT SAME THING for six weeks straight. I just fail to see how anyone can be excited for any part of TNA after what has been put forth these past two months.

Although, I may still tune in next week just to have a reference point when I listen to one of Cornette's rants.
 
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Next week really makes me wish my crappy cable company would seriously add HDNet. That one hour of ROH I suspect would be better than four hours combined between WWE and TNA that night.
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']You have the fine folks over at the Wrestlecrap forums to thank for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRtjrISt1PA&feature=player_embedded[/QUOTE]

That was great. Very funny :lol::applause:

[quote name='Halo05']I listened to most of Raw. Pretty corny shit. I turned it off as grounds-keeper Willie jumped out of the crowd and onto Triple H.

[/QUOTE]

:rofl: :applause::lol: I hadn't thought of Shaemus as grounds-keeper Willie, but he does bear a striking resemblance to him. I'm going to start calling him that from now on.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Not a great night of matches, but goddamn did Vince and BIG DAVE ever knock it out of the park on promos. They basically competed to be the biggest dicks in the universe in one night, and I'd say that Vince won with his wacky fake cane walk. Bret was...there in this promo, but like Cena in his verbal debate (or POSSIBLE CONFRONTATION according to King and Cole), he was outshined by his heel counterpart. Dave never cut a promo this good before, and I can't wait to see his match with Cena at 'Mania. He's brought the awesome so far as a heel, and I think that'll continue to WM. The Bret deal though...wow...I'm losing faith in this, and it's largely due to Bret just not doing much well right now. Tonight, he was moving around better than someone who is, theoretically, faking a leg injury should. He was able to stand on it just fine at times, which was just absurd. However, video packages have helped this feud out greatly, and I'm sure that trend will continue.

[/QUOTE]


Your spoilers were hilarious. And I agree, I was actually kind of digging "bad" Dave Batista today. It would be interesting to see a heel/heel battle between Orton and Batista.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I agree, but AAA has a lot of cartoon characters - the hell brothers, cibernetico, super porky (or was he in CMLL?), things like that. They also had the stupid cage with the hole on top that TNA ripped off and summarily showed to be a dismal idea within 5 minutes of being on Monday night.

I hope TNA destroys WWE, but I also hope TNA becomes a pro wrestling company first.

These new Monday Night Wars will end up fizzling because both promotions are doing the same stuff/style/production they were a decade ago - the format and production of WWE hasn't changed a lick, and TNA has wholesale plagiarized that format, offering nothing new to the table. Oh, look, here comes Eric Bishoff for a ten minute interview in the ring; one hour later, here comes Hulk Hogan for a ten minute interview in the ring. Vince Russo claims it isn't easy to write a new wrestling show week in and week out. I believe him. But I do believe it's very easy to tread water and plug in new feuds to an old and tired format, which is what both companies are doing. Until and unless one of these companies really revamps how they do things, ratings won't take off and this new MNW will be a dud.[/QUOTE]

See, but I don't even mind the cartoon characters of AAA compared to the shit cartoon characters WWE/TNA have. Hornswoggle anyone? or how about Suicide (gimmick should have ended long ago when they failed to do something with it and it got ridiculous/lame).

Also, I completely agree with you on the current adaptation of the MNW. I seriously wish ROH was on a different channel, because it's probably the real, "true" competition that is going to set the wrestling wars ablaze, now that ECW doesn't exist. We all know that ECW was where the true motivation and spark for the competition we saw in the 90s. Just look at the ECW DVD and tell me that that stuff isn't true.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Next week really makes me wish my crappy cable company would seriously add HDNet. That one hour of ROH I suspect would be better than four hours combined between WWE and TNA that night.[/QUOTE]

THIS!

Cablevision doesnt have HDNET either and i too would rather watch ROH than the piece of craps than the weak sauce that has been airing these past couple weeks(minus NXT since i hear its a hit so far)
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Next week really makes me wish my crappy cable company would seriously add HDNet. That one hour of ROH I suspect would be better than four hours combined between WWE and TNA that night.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='integralsmatic']THIS!

Cablevision doesnt have HDNET either and i too would rather watch ROH than the piece of craps than the weak sauce that has been airing these past couple weeks(minus NXT since i hear its a hit so far)[/QUOTE]

Um, guys


:whistle2:$
 
Actually Sporadic from my understanding ROH has given the okay for their weekly shows to be put on YouTube. However I'd rather watch the show live when its aired in HD.
 
Yeah if ROH wasn't cool with them putting their shows on youtube, they would have been taken down ages ago. Just look at how fast they went after Maffew when he used clips from their shows in his older Botchamania videos.
 
I didn't think of Nash's frequent "I'm doing this to make money" comments when fishing for who else has said that lately, but I did say WWE guy. Plus it doesn't really come off the same way anyway...Nash does it to be a smarmy, lazy prick, while Dave comes off as spmeone who wants to kick the shit out of people for his own amusement. Cena's end of the promo was fine. He wasn't great, but there is a noticable improvement when he's being a little more serious and not telling his opponents they stink like pee-pee or whatever.


Look at a Raw from 2010 and compare it to a Raw from 2000.
A few cosmetic changes here and there, but same presentation.

Now look at a Raw from 2000 and Superstars from 1990.
Major difference.

Now look at a Superstars from 1990 and a Championship Wrestling from 1980.
Night and day.

No wonder I find this stuff so stale most of the time.


TNA destroying WWE? What, after they are done destroying themselves? Dixie Carter is barely a step above that Wrestlelicious dipshit. This move to Mondays is another short-sighted blunder that may help them out for a few weeks, but won't pay off in the long-term.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']I didn't think of Nash's frequent "I'm doing this to make money" comments when fishing for who else has said that lately, but I did say WWE guy. Plus it doesn't really come off the same way anyway...Nash does it to be a smarmy, lazy prick, while Dave comes off as spmeone who wants to kick the shit out of people for his own amusement. Cena's end of the promo was fine. He wasn't great like Batista was, but there is a noticable improvement when he's being a little more serious and not telling his opponents they stink like pee-pee or whatever.

Look at a Raw from 2010 and compare it to a Raw from 2000.
A few cosmetic changes here and there, but same presentation.

Now look at a Raw from 2000 and Superstars from 1990.
Major difference.

Now look at a Superstars from 1990 and a Championship Wrestling from 1980.
Night and day.

No wonder I find this stuff so stale most of the time.


TNA destroying WWE? What, after they are done destroying themselves? Dixie Carter is barely a step above that Wrestlelicious dipshit. This move to Mondays is another short-sighted blunder that may help them out for a few weeks, but won't pay off in the long-term.[/QUOTE]



TNAs in ring product is 10x better than WWEs right now. From the knockouts to the heavyweights. Other than the stupid Abyss ring angle, I don't see any angles or writing spots that insult my intelligence like the WWE presents every week. I bet some of the people on the writing staff there probably also did the Scary Movies. I guess since I'm not on a 12/13 year old level I just don't get the WWE product nowadays.
 
My guess for next weeks ratings? TNA gets a 1.25 and Dixie,Bischoff, and Spike TV execs still find a way to blow a load over it.
 
I think there's something to be said about the idea that TNA will do better on Mondays because it's "wrestling night." Heck, that's the primary reason I watch Raw: a 2-decade old habit. I haven't seen Smackdown in years, I would watch ECW for about 5 minutes once every 2-3 months, and the same goes for TNA on Thursdays.

I will flip channels for sure on Monday, so TNA will inherently get more attention from me that way.

TNA could hold steady in ratings on Mondays, while they were clearly trending back down to 0.9-1.0 levels on Thursdays. Hogan may draw, but not on Thursdays. ;)

EDIT: Dude, I lasted 6:25 before I had to turn this off. I dare you to beat that: http://www.bite.ca/video/Wrestlicious-Takedown-Ep-1/
 
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Anyone else really like Batista as a cocksucker heel?

That promo he (didn't) cut on Smackdown!, a couple weeks back, was awesome.
 
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