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Is it wishful thinking that they do some video package of ECW early days to the end of this piece of crap they call ECW?
 
[quote name='jp0213']Is it wishful thinking that they do some video package of ECW early days to the end of this piece of crap they call ECW?[/QUOTE]
They did a bit of a video package when they came on, including highlights of old ECW stuff. Sabu, New Jack, etc.
 
So what's gonna happen to the ECW strap? Are they going to get rid of it, rename it, or dump it in a garbage can?
 
Miz and Danielson intrigues me. Miz can talk and is improving in the ring, and Danielson is almost the exact opposite. Surprised that neither Hennig or DiBiase are on the second list, not surprised that Otunga is since I figured he'd be in.

Not having Low Ki in is confusing. I figured he was a lock.
 
So they're actually calling Dragon "Daniel Bryan"? Congrats, WWE, you've actually managed to find new depths of blandness.

[quote name='JJSP']Not having Low Ki in is confusing. I figured he was a lock.[/QUOTE]

There you go applying logic to WWE again. When will you learn? :)
 
[quote name='cdubb1605']well, we all knew it couldnt be that long

It was announced at tonight's TNA iMPACT tapings that Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair would make their in-ring debuts for TNA on the March 8th live iMPACT on Monday night.

Hogan will be teaming with Abyss to take on the team of Flair and TNA World Heavyweight Champion AJ Styles.
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oh yea! I can't for that. TNA has now completed the circle of shit known as the new monday night wars. next TNA will bring back King Kong Bundy to wrestle Hogan in a Cage match a la Wrestlemania 2.

by the way...whatever happend to Jeff Hardy...he made 1 short appearance and then was never heard from again.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']oh yea! I can't for that. TNA has now completed the circle of shit known as the new monday night wars. next TNA will bring back King Kong Bundy to wrestle Hogan in a Cage match a la Wrestlemania 2.

by the way...whatever happend to Jeff Hardy...he made 1 short appearance and then was never heard from again.[/QUOTE]

hardy has that whole grand jury trial to be worried about. i think tna might be waiting to see if he gets jail time before they put him in a story
 
[quote name='guyver2077']holy shit!!!!
wasnt expecting new ECW champ

so what's the point of having him win it?

so is nxt the modern day tough enough?[/QUOTE]

id assume that the belt stays on NXT and gets renamed and christian moves to..... smackdown
 
So Miz is the "pro" and Danielson is the "rookie". Oh, that's rich.

NXT certainly seems well on it's way to being nothing more than a steaming pile. I'll watch the first couple of eps but I have zero expectations.
 
[quote name='neocisco']So Miz is the "pro" and Danielson is the "rookie". Oh, that's rich.

NXT certainly seems well on it's way to being nothing more than a steaming pile. I'll watch the first couple of eps but I have zero expectations.[/QUOTE]


WWE should have taken advantage of Danielson and Jericho both using the nickname "Best in the World". Jericho could 'mini-feud' with Danielson on NXT and continue his Edge shenanigans on SmackDown.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']by the way...whatever happend to Jeff Hardy...he made 1 short appearance and then was never heard from again.[/QUOTE]

Well, aside from that whole "court thing," Hardy mainly appeared on TNA as a way to jab the E since they were mocking him. I don't think he seriously considered joining TNA full-time.

But I'm probably wrong.
 
[quote name='neocisco']So Miz is the "pro" and Danielson is the "rookie". Oh, that's rich.[/QUOTE]

"I've never watched wrestling before. People actually go to different companies and play different characters, and don't reference their past work?"
 
[quote name='Chase']'Jesse' is Terry Gordy, Jr.? Seriously? I had --no-- idea. Wow, talk about not living up to the boots laid before them.[/QUOTE]

To be fair, you could have put anyone in the position of coming out to a theme song that starts BISCUITS AND GRAAAAAVAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!, wrestle 3-minute WWE matches, and get over like a fart in church. At least it was Terry, Jr., who is lamentably a very expendable wrestler.

Imagine if they put one of your beloved internet hard-workers in that spot, like Danielson, Steel, or Colt Cabana.

I haven't seen a single moment of his Slam Master J character, but if that's an improvement over the previous hee-haw character he played, I'll eat my hat.

[quote name='HydroX']* R-Truth & David Otunga[/QUOTE]

WWE: Keeping segregation real.

"Put the black guys together, I bet they're exactly alike!

[quote name='neocisco']So Miz is the "pro" and Danielson is the "rookie". Oh, that's rich.

NXT certainly seems well on it's way to being nothing more than a steaming pile. I'll watch the first couple of eps but I have zero expectations.[/QUOTE]

Miz has stepped up, and let's be fair, WWE ≠ pro wrestling, so Danielson has a good bit to learn about jobbing in 3-and-a-half minute matches, given he doesn't have much experience in that area. Yeah, I'm kinda being sarcastic, but I'm also kinda being serious. Performing an adequate match in 3 minutes is not easy - it's certainly not ideal, sure - but let's not pretend like Danielson going on tv is suddenly going to open WWE's eyes to putting on 18-30 minute mat classics. That'll happen on the same day Jeff Jarrett wins another WWE title.
 
I actually can't tell what I didn't like more: Jesse, or Slam Master J. I guess I'll go with the latter, because that looked like a slight against "Too Cool," which I'm not embarassed to say was one of my favorite tag-teams.
 
It could've been worse than Jesse/Festus and Slam Master J. He was working Smackdown house shows in 2006 teaming with Henry Godwinn under the name Cousin Ray.
 
You know what, even though it wasn't mind blowing, I liked ECW's last match. It seems like WWE actually put in some effort (by their standards) to make it somewhat special. Then again, they might have just watched 2 or 3 hardcore matches from the late 90s and told Christian and Zeke "Hey... just do that."

I am a bit disappointed that Ezekiel won the title though. With Christian, at least you have his legacy of all those TLC matches to say "Ok, yeah, he was kind of extreme."
 
Zeke needs it more I think. As little hype as it'll give him, it is at least something to carry him onto Raw or SD with some momentum.

I wonder if they are going to put Shelton and Kozlov as a team after tonight. Might as well throw together 2 guys who have had very little direction to see if it works.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']oh yea! I can't for that. TNA has now completed the circle of shit known as the new monday night wars. next TNA will bring back King Kong Bundy to wrestle Hogan in a Cage match a la Wrestlemania 2.

by the way...whatever happend to Jeff Hardy...he made 1 short appearance and then was never heard from again.[/QUOTE]

Just to blow your mind, Smackdown has been advertised on radio spots here recently; part of the commercial is JR saying "Bah Gawd Jeff Hardy The Ultimate Risk Taker!" or something like that.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Miz has stepped up, and let's be fair, WWE ≠ pro wrestling, so Danielson has a good bit to learn about jobbing in 3-and-a-half minute matches, given he doesn't have much experience in that area. Yeah, I'm kinda being sarcastic, but I'm also kinda being serious. Performing an adequate match in 3 minutes is not easy - it's certainly not ideal, sure - but let's not pretend like Danielson going on tv is suddenly going to open WWE's eyes to putting on 18-30 minute mat classics. That'll happen on the same day Jeff Jarrett wins another WWE title.[/QUOTE]

Miz has improved leagues since he started, I agree. It's just silly making him the "pro" opposite Dragon of all people. I'm certainly not naive enough to think that Dragon will lift the scales from the eyes of Vince about his style of wrestling but it's still frustrating nonetheless to see one so talented be so hindered. Clearly I'm no longer in the target audience for WWE which, when you consider most of what they're selling at this point, is just fine with me.
 
[quote name='neocisco']So they're actually calling Dragon "Daniel Bryan"? Congrats, WWE, you've actually managed to find new depths of blandness.



There you go applying logic to WWE again. When will you learn? :)[/QUOTE]

Ugh are you serious? I followed dragon in ROH for years. That is a terrible choice. Just let him have his fucking name. WWE always messes things up.
 
Having Zeke win the ECW belt doesn't do him any favors if he never gets to defend the damn thing. It's nothing more than a consolation prize for being a good sport.
 
[quote name='bigsick']Ugh are you serious? I followed dragon in ROH for years. That is a terrible choice. Just let him have his fucking name. WWE always messes things up.[/QUOTE]

But but if they let him keep his name, they can't trademark it. Really wish they would've left it alone, the name is so plain.
 
Now they can put over Zeke last ECW champ wherever he ends up, even though his reign was for only 2 minutes before it was retired.
 
I see it like they did with Booker T referencing his five-time (five-time...) WCW championships. He went out of his way to call it that, and not the world heavyweight championship or its WWE name. Zeke needs that legitimacy and Christian does not. If he didn't win the title, he'd just show up on Raw/SD one day and say "hi, you may not know me, but I was never a title holder on a show the majority of you never watched."

Though they pushed Sheamus to the moon in a very short timespan without having much ECW success (and it's not like he's an incredible wrestler), so they could have tried that w/ Zeke. Either way, there are reasons he should have won it and reasons he shouldn't have. WWE went with the former, but it's retired now, so big deal.
 
[quote name='Thongsy']But but if they let him keep his name, they can't trademark it. Really wish they would've left it alone, the name is so plain.[/QUOTE]

Clearly they didn't learn from Scotty Goldman. "Who's Scotty Goldman", you might say? My response would be "Precisely.".

Now I don't think Dragon will be the phantom entity that Cabana was made to be but that name makes vanilla look like mint chocolate chip.
 
I thought the last ECW match was a nice little homage to the original ECW. The didn't shoe horn the references (like the wwe loves to do--I am surprised Sandaman didn't come out and hit Christian with a kendo stick ending in a no contest and then Sabu just jumps off something and the show ends) instead it was very subtle and natural. pseudo Random run in, girl slapping guy, girl on girl fight, heel with a manager both getting taken out by a table.

I liked it a lot.
 
[quote name='pimpster4183']Now they can put over Zeke last ECW champ wherever he ends up, even though his reign was for only 2 minutes before it was retired.[/QUOTE]

Rhino was frequently referred to as the final ECW champion during the Alliance angle. I'm sure it'll come up for Ezekial for at least a couple months (assuming he is on TV on Raw or SD).
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']I haven't watched the final ECW show yet but has the WWE said anything officially on if the ECW title is retired now or not?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they mentioned on their site that Jackson was the last ECW title holder.
 
As noted yesterday here on the website, Orlando Jordan kissed a man prior to his match with Samoa Joe at the TNA iMPACT! TV tapings on Monday. Jordan was escorted to the ring by a man and woman and kissed both before his match. We're told this didn't go over well with many people backstage within TNA and it is possible the company may edit it out. Jason Powell is reporting that one TNA wrestler said running an angle like that with Jordan would turn off viewers, especially with the show airing on a network like Spike TV that is geared towards men.
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What is TNA thinking?

[quote name='JJSP']I'm more offended that OJ beat Joe clean.[/QUOTE]


What is TNA thinking?!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Kissing a guy is gonna get mad heat in this era.[/QUOTE]


OJ's bisexuality should not be an issue--but how TNA is choosing to exploit OJ's bisexuality could be an issue. I expect TNA to turn it into some sort of "Lenny and Lodi" angle, which, to be honest, I don't want to see again. :cold:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aom5t9XkWS8

"You can always tell the guys who use 'Valvoline'." :lol:
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']I'm gonna miss Goldust now that ECW is ending. He is still a good secondary talent, and he'll likely disappear whether he goes to Raw or SD. The same goes for Yoshi Tatsu.[/QUOTE]

Seconded regarding Goldust. One of the few "characters" left in a sea of dullness.
 
^ In pic 1, he looks tired from carrying Triple H's bags.
Also, I'm not that far outside of the fashion loop, am I? Do people wear neckties on the inside of their collared shirts?

ehh, homosexuality, if done right, has been a staple heel persona since well before most of our lives - even going back to Gorgeous George Wagner, Exotic Adrian Street, Adrian Adonis, Goldust, Billy and Chuck, etc. No mainstream promotion is going to try to push the envelope with its fanbase and dare try to push a face team of gays, like ROH did with the Christopher Street Connection.

Where it works with Jordan is that is a part of who he is as a person - he can't step out at the last moment and pull a "Billy and Chuck" where they killed all the momentum they had during the wedding sequence (who would have thought that, in pro wrestling, wrestlers coming out and saying "woah, dude, we're totally not gay and we love chicks" would be the moment where their push and fan interest dropped off a cliff?). If Jordan's persona sez "this is who I am" and the crowd heels him for it, then it works. As super-liberal ultra-PC me, I'm saddened that someone's sexuality causes others to be bothered and disgusted. But professional wrestling has always been antithetical to the ultra-PC crowd anyway, with racial/ethnic angles and stereotypes, sexuality-based angles and stereotypes (out in the real world, more gay men dress up like the Road Warriors than any number of straight men ;)), nationalist/war-based/ethnocentric angles and stereotypes. Condemnding them for doing that is condemning pro wrestling.

That said, there's a fine line, I think, and I'm willing to accept it because Jordan has said this is part of his identity as a person, not a wrestler. When you take a northeastern dude of Italian descent and make him some quasi-terr'ist muslim (like with the dude who played Mohammad Hassan), that's what bothers me. Which is kinda perverse in a sense since I'm advocating hating and booing people's real personalities and not made-up ones, but I ain't thought that far yet.

Worst of all? Y'all are putting me in a spot where I'm defending Orlando Jordan! Good god y'all, he's still one of the most boring in-ring wrestlers I've ever witnessed.
 
I'd like to see Sheamus bust out a rendition of "Barroom Hero" if they ever do another CD full of wrestlers singing.
 
[quote name='Brak']Lenny and Lodi were biological brothers! It was a swerve![/QUOTE]


An incestuous relationship between brothers. I would believe it. The idea just screams "post-1998 WCW". :whistle2:#

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"...Hulk Hogan revealed his long-awaited return to the ring would come during a live broadcast from the iMPACT Zone..."

"Long-awaited"? To who--other than Hulk Hogan himself and Bubba the Semen Sponge? Gah.
 
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