Japanese Niche Games Deals & Discussion Thread 4.0

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Welcome to the Japanese niche games deals and discussion thread!  Feel free to talk about local and import Japanese games here.  Our goal is to maintain a thread dedicated to active deals on niche games including RPGs, Visual Novels (VN), Shoot'em ups (Shmups), Musou, etc.  Also maintained are pre-orders for standard, limited and collector's edition games with key release dates provided.

I've wikified the thread to make it more friendly and open to others that can actively update with important information. You can find the wiki post directly below this one.

NOTE:  Please, leave the censorship discussion away from this thread.  It's common for japanese games to have questionable content outside of the country.  We want to keep discussions to the game itself and not about cultural/societal tolerance.

A message from Thorbahn:

Our CAG Japanese Niche Games Thread also has a community on PS4, where you can interact and game with other members of the thread.

Our moderators are: Draekon, Las_Hole, and Waffleswanton

You can basically friend any of our members, or any moderator, and you will be able to request to join the community under "Communities friends are in" tab, and a mod will approve your request.

You can also leave your PSN ID in the thread, saying you want to join, and we can invite you directly as well.

As always, have fun and enjoy your stay!

 
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NeoMonk said:
Found this beauty New Sealed!
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Nice. Where'd you get her?

NeoMonk said:
ATLUS tweaks policy regarding Persona 5 Streaming, You can now stream up to 11/19.
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I don't really care about streaming but it's stupid they're restricting user control like this. Hell, the ps4 has a dedicated button for it. I hated that I couldn't take screenshots on SRWV. People that are going to stream are going to circumvent it anyway. It really just hurts the good boys and girls that follow the rules. Spoilers are already out there and it doesn't take a stream or screenshots to post spoilers.

 
nagpo said:
I agree with the guy. Games should be presented as is. Anyways, who the hell is offended by an inadvertent KKK reference in 2017? They haven't been in thing in over twenty years. I think this is a case of a localizer looking for things that might offend people - like, wanting to find things to the point of almost making them up.
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Disagree. There would be no purpose to localization and most games would be incomprehensible if you just presented them literally as they are. In this case, the joke in Japanese was a play on the letters of a real company that appeared similar to KKK. The original developers never intended the joke to reference a hate organization. Contrary to what this guy is claiming, this isn't censorship, but an attempt to adjust a joke so that it has a meaning similar to what was originally intended.

 
EdJericho said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Q_XYVescc

Took everything that made Battlefield 1 great, threw it in the trash, dropped two nukes on it and remade it to be the newer greatest game of all time. It's like Activision saw what EA did with their World War game and decided to make that but double the amount of everything (hence the subtle name WWII), double the guns, double the explosions, double the fight for freedom. This game is truly the Donald Trump of Call of Duty in that just like America it's becoming great again and that is how it should always be.

This post is inspired by WhoKnows Top 5 Games of All Time
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Can't get anymore Japanese Niche than this.
 
Olengie said:
No. While there are nods/references to past games, they are completely stand alone to each other until a Crossover Fighting Game happens. (Arena/Ultimax/Q) :p

You can play Persona 5 without a problem.
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hostyl1 said:
In order not needed. For example, I, fairly green when it came to JRPGs, started P3, got about halfway in and petered out. Played all of P4 Golden (multiple times) then went back to P3 Portable. I don't think that playing through P4G in any way affected my enjoyment of P3P.

The only caveat that I would give is that P3P, P4G, and P5 have some 'quality of life' improvements that are lacking in P3, P3:FES, and vanilla P4. If you play P5 and then go back to those, you might have some slight gameplay frustrations, but story-wise, you'll be fine. If the personas in your backlog are P3P and P4G, you'll have no problem whatsoever.
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BlackRockWaifu said:
Actually, I advise against playing the older Persona games if you want to give P5 a try. Mainly because they will seem dated, and it'll be a lot of the same battles again and again and you'll tire of it easily. Also, I mentioned this before but I played P4 right after I beat P3 and I hated it. The biggest reason I because I really missed my old teammates in P3, and hated the ones in P4. It'll be hard to let go of older characters and get attached to new ones after spending a hundred hours with them.
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Thanks for the replies.

I think I will just jump right into 5. If I really enjoy it then I'll go back to 3&4 someday.

 
I read about this earlier and jokingly mentioned on Reddit "imagine if WSJ got a whiff of a "KKK" reference in a game (even if it's not)... they would Pewdiepie the shit out of shit." well guess I was wrong... Leave it to Kotaku to take the banner.

 
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Anyone know if there are any plans for a Western/English friendly re-release of Yakuza 2? I am aware that the PS2 version got a reprint, but I'm curious to know if the HD version that came out in Japan is headed stateside.

 
I'm not sure how niche it is, but rare, yes. I emailed Heavy Arms and he told me that they were getting a restock of the Asia/English Nintendo Switch version of I am Setsuna "in the middle of May." (This is the one with the English-lettering box art.) I put in a preorder as $49 + $10 shipping is better than the hellacious Ebay prices people are charging. So I advise you to email him and secure one if you were looking for it. Not sure how low the print run will be, but it's looking to be kinda rare. (I just wanna play it portably.)

heavyarm8@gmail com
 
DarthPwner said:
I'm not sure how niche it is, but rare, yes. I emailed Heavy Arms and he told me that they were getting a restock of the Asia/English Nintendo Switch version of I am Setsuna "in the middle of May."
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I barely missed the April allotment so I locked in a May one & Sold my JP version of the game.

Rather get this one.

 
Commodore Wheeler said:
It's a 10 for me, assuming that "10" means that a game is at the absolute top level of what's been released, not necessarily flawless. I've yet to find a game that is completely flawless.
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Good point! No game is perfect. In that case, my highest scoring game is GTA V with 9.75, if I shift the scale, Persona 5 will end up with around 9.7, same score I would give The Witcher 3, and slightly higher than Fallout 3 and Half Life 2. All games I would put in my top 10.

I got to say though, I do understand Persona 5 is still a niche game in its core. It's definitely not meant for everyone, and some people might be used to games with more freedom like GTA, Zelda, or Mass Effect. I can understand how some find it difficult to deal with it's limiting mechanics, and end up finding the game too hard. I want to say that it's not necessarily a flaw of the game, more like a niche genre most aren't accustomed to. I definitely don't want this genre of gaming to die out and get replaced with a more simpler system, I like the unique challenges it poses.

I'm also not sure if you need to get max confidant links with everyone to get the true ending or something (past Persona games didn't require it.) So a casual player just playing for the story and not trying to be a 100% completionist, might be pretty content with the full package, at least in one playthrough.

 
Draekon said:
I actually want to know why I can't pay money to fuse Persona in my compendium that aren't in my current persona inventory. Pretty sure that was a feature of Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse which was the last Megaten game I went through prior to Persona 5. I was really disappointed to find out that I have to make a bunch of room, go to my collection and buy what I needed. Then move back through menus and fuse them. Then repeat the process until I get what I want ultimately at the end of this long tedious process just like the older Megaten games. It's not particularly enjoyable when you could cut that tedium time down significantly.

Hype didn't bother me. Hell, it doesn't even come close to my hype levels for Trails in the Sky the 3rd that releases next week. For me it's an 8/10 with a bunch of issues that I was hoping would be improved. Granted some of it is just because culturally Japan is very different than the west.
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p5 was likely already done before apocalypse was even started. You also forget that they both released the same year.

 
DplusT said:
Thanks for the replies.

I think I will just jump right into 5. If I really enjoy it then I'll go back to 3&4 someday.
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like the other posts said if you do go back p3p and p4g are the better versions for both titles. though p4 doesn't have as many quality of life issues as p3 vanilla does.

 
BlackRockWaifu said:
So Morgana is a brotha... good to know.

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Also, is it just me or is the P5 protag the most handsome one yet...?
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I think P3 Protag is more handsome. :p

Morgana isn't a bro. He keeps telling me to go to bed. Can't you let me make some goddam tools? I rather have my Brain tell me to sleep. Not a cat. :p

 
shadowysea07 said:
easy would have been being able to get it done in the first place.
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I'm saying itll be easy now that I have fore knowledge of what I need to do. Not sure why you're putting words in my mouth saying it'll only be a little easier. No it'll be easy. And I can do it even if I have to redo the stats.
You sure got a lot of complaints for a guy who hasn't played the game.
 
Olengie said:
I thought he played the game?
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Every indication says no. He always uses p3 and p4 as the basis for his complaints. I mean yeah those games are legitimately hard to max social links without a guide. Not p5 though.
 
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godofwar7 said:
Every indication says no. He always uses p3 and p4 as the basis for his complaints. I mean yeah those games are legitimately hard to max social links without a guide. Not p5 though.
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Can't you spam Fortune's Confidant Perks and Temperance's to help you reach MAX Links? I was under the impression you could.

 
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Can't you spam Fortune's Confidant Perks and Temperance's to help you reach MAX Links? I was under the impression you could.
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You can. I did them way too late in my initial playthrough though. Amongst other numerous mistakes made.
 
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agree, Nintendo was always a strong brand name an the first year is a solid line up when it hits years 3+ an is still selling 3 mill+ a year then i will be impressed. Thu truthfully i hope it don't as am not big fan of old tech with new gimmicks, not saying i also won't add a +1 to those numbers one day as i still want play Nintendo games.

 
Deader2818 said:
Nah switch was always going to start out well. If it will be able to keep it up was always the bigger question.
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Everyone's so positive about it including casuals. I can't imagine the success not carrying through to the holidays at least with Mario oddysey.
 
PS+ Games for May are:

:ps4: Tales from the Borderlands

:ps4: Abzu

:ps3: Blood Knights

:ps3: Port Royale 3: Pirates and Merchants

:vita: Laser Disco Defensers (Cross-Buy with :ps4:)

:vita: Type:Rider (Cross-Buy with :ps4:)

Nothing relevant to this thread this month either. However the PS4 games are pretty decent and Type:Rider seems to have some decently positive reviews too.

Also Golden Week starts the 29th, so we are likely to see some Japanese game sales as per the usual yearly tradition.

 
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godofwar7 said:
Everyone's so positive about it including casuals. I can't imagine the success not carrying through to the holidays at least with Mario oddysey.
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No doubt it should have a good holiday. Depending on what they announce at e3 we'll see how it does between August and November.

I think it's safe to say Mario will be out in November. With splatoon 2 out in July there is potential for a dry spell between these 2 titles.

Always possible the announce something 1st party between those 2 titles so we'll see.

You do have FIFA and NBA in September at least.

Not having red dead 2 cod destiny 2 and star wars battlefront 2 is kind of a big blow but I wouldn't be shocked if some form of cod and star wars makes it to the switch this year.
 
BlackRockWaifu said:
Good point! No game is perfect. In that case, my highest scoring game is GTA V with 9.75, if I shift the scale, Persona 5 will end up with around 9.7, same score I would give The Witcher 3, and slightly higher than Fallout 3 and Half Life 2. All games I would put in my top 10.

I got to say though, I do understand Persona 5 is still a niche game in its core. It's definitely not meant for everyone, and some people might be used to games with more freedom like GTA, Zelda, or Mass Effect. I can understand how some find it difficult to deal with it's limiting mechanics, and end up finding the game too hard. I want to say that it's not necessarily a flaw of the game, more like a niche genre most aren't accustomed to. I definitely don't want this genre of gaming to die out and get replaced with a more simpler system, I like the unique challenges it poses.

I'm also not sure if you need to get max confidant links with everyone to get the true ending or something (past Persona games didn't require it.) So a casual player just playing for the story and not trying to be a 100% completionist, might be pretty content with the full package, at least in one playthrough.
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(Not picking on you, just using your comment as a jump point).
I've never understood the point of having a 10 point scale if nothing could ever reach that tenth point. Of course nothing is perfect, but nothing is perfect about the number 10 either. Seems silly to me. Really, what's the difference between 9, 9.5, 9.75 and 10 when it comes to a video game? Texture pop-in? ;)

As for P5, I'm only 3 Palaces (almost typed dungeon!) in, but it fully "exceeds expectations." I was looking forward to an interesting group of characters and a tying narrative and that seems to be as expected. Where it 'exceeds' is in the battles. I loved the life-segments of P3 and P4 and tolerated the battles, but I find myself actually liking the battles of P5. Whereas in P3 and P4 I rushed through the dungeons in one day just to get to the next story bit, I actually debate in P5 spending an extra day or two in Mementos just 'cause I like the flavor-text conversations in the van and the fights feel good. That was really a surprise to me. Maybe a bit of that is the art style too, particularly the all out attack splash screens. Though there was an obvious miss of not continuing the "Too Booty" theme of 2017 with Queen's AOA splash.

(Not quite ready to go all in on the 'Great Waifu War' but there are only 2 strong contenders so far...)

 
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-W5LDUg18[/media]

Gundam Versus is coming to the West for the first time in 2017.

Never expected this. Maybe we'll get more Gundam games in the future if it does well enough

 
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