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WWF Wrestlemania the Arcade game is alot shittier than I remembered =/

So is this WCW SNES game... but wow, it has Ron Simmons :rofl:
 
Finished reading Death of WCW (good read if you have not read it) and watched TNA's 50 greatest moments. TNA did a great job with the DVD in that they actually spent time talking about all the moments and for many showed a good amount of what took place (some even had the whole clip). My only gripe would be that it focused too much on the arrival of people (especially when it comes to celebrities) and not enough on the in ring product. My friend gave it to me as a present so I didn't pay for it, but if I was 10 dollars would probably be the sweet spot.

If nothing else the DVD does a great job of making people a Jarrett mark since it has a lot of his best moments (the Team 3D funeral, attacking Hogan, the Toby Keith incident). Anytime they included one of his clips the moment was golden.
 
[quote name='Psykoboy2']How long was he out last time he tore it...wasn't it like 8 months or really close to a year?[/QUOTE]

Injuried May 2001, returned January 2002.

I wonder if they'll just completely write out DX for now. Didn't Michaels need time off for a knee injury?
 
[quote name='Roufuss']WWF Wrestlemania the Arcade game is alot shittier than I remembered =/

So is this WCW SNES game... but wow, it has Ron Simmons :rofl:[/quote]


i never figured out how to do anything in that wcw game... it was so horrible.. the character select screen was funny though
 
[quote name='terribledeli']Injuried May 2001, returned January 2002.

I wonder if they'll just completely write out DX for now. Didn't Michaels need time off for a knee injury?[/QUOTE]

According to reports, HHH returned on 1/7/02, 5 years to the day of this injury. Last time it was his left leg, was it not?

I don't see how they can proceed with DX at this point, really. They have to elevate RKO to the killer bad guys now (which is good, because killing off DX should provide them with a ton of heat and motivation for a main event feud, once they get that fat tub of shit out of the way).

I just read that Deuce and Domino are with SmackDown/ECW right now, so that explains why they weren't at the Saturday OVW show. Damned shame that I didn't get to see them live; hopefully you'll all get to see them soon.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']i never figured out how to do anything in that wcw game... it was so horrible.. the character select screen was funny though[/QUOTE]

Yea, I had no clue what the fuck I was doing either... that character select screen scared the shit out of me. "YOU WANT TO PLAY AS VADER?!?!"
 
Back from Aruba. It was nice, got to relax and get a tan and stuff why you all were suffering in your abnormally high temperature winter. Also, got my grades.. 4.0, can I get a hell ya? Caught up on my wrestling just now. RAW sucked. ECW was ok, main event was disappointing as I imaged in would be. Very nice seeing Sabu get beat clean. Impact was ok, maybe the last segment took up just a little too much time eh? Didn't see SmackDown. NYR was somewhat disappointing. Hardy/Nitro wasn't what I thought it would be.. but Cena/Umaga wasn't the train wreck I expected either. Good times.
 
Following an MRI with Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala. on Monday, Triple H was diagnosed with a ruptured quadriceps tendon. Officially, The Game suffered a tear of one of the four tendons in his right quadriceps. The injury occurred during DX's match with Rated-RKO at New Year's Revolution. Surgery will be performed on Tuesday in Alabama, and WWE doctor Ferdinand Rios estimates that The Game will need four to six months to rehabilitate the injury. While he was in a tremendous amount of pain prior to the MRI, Triple H was said to be in great spirits. Stay tuned to WWE.com for further updates.
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That definitely puts him out for Wrestlemania.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Yea, I had no clue what the fuck I was doing either... that character select screen scared the shit out of me. "YOU WANT TO PLAY AS VADER?!?!"[/QUOTE]

"A THIRST FOR HIGH IMPACT!"
"I'M BAAAAAAADDDD!"
"NO SECOND CHANCES!"
"YOU WANT VADER!?!?!"
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']"A THIRST FOR HIGH IMPACT!"
"I'M BAAAAAAADDDD!"
"NO SECOND CHANCES!"
"YOU WANT VADER!?!?!"[/quote]

i also remember:

"Woooooo"... may have been either sting or flair"
 
[quote name='guyver2077']i also remember:

"Woooooo"... may have been either sting or flair"[/QUOTE]

Haha, Woooo was Flair.

Man, this game sucked so bad.

The VA's for the Wrestlemania Arcade game was horrible too... PIN HIMMMM PIN HIMMMMM
 
Well Triple H see you at the Survivor Series. If the rumors of HHH vs Cena at WM were at all true, and that'd be great if they were because I know all the wrestling fans really want to see another Cena/HHH match :roll:, then the main event at WM is now open. So, maybe it's time to actually give the fans what they want, and put out the one match people would actually give a damn about:

Batista vs Cena, why this hasn't happened yet is beyond me. Of course that means one of them would have to drop their title in the next week or so and then win the Royal Rumble.
 
If the D-X / RKO vendetta dissolves while HHH is away, I wonder if he'll return as a heel (sans-D-X).
 
[quote name='Brak']If the D-X / RKO vendetta dissolves while HHH is away, I wonder if he'll return as a heel (sans-D-X).[/QUOTE]

Smart money is that Orton / Edge has the title when Triple H returns, he'll be either a face / heel (probably still a face if Orton or Edge are still heels) and this sets up Triple H's big return and gives him another easy shot at the title using revenge as a backdrop.

He gets the title, turns heel, Cena goes for the title again.
 
Trips is done for half a year - who gives a shit about when and how he'll come back, because we all *know* how it's gonna go down. No different than last time, with every guy on the roster writing "chump" on their chest and feeding themselves to the dominant H machine.

Instead, let's focus on what this means for Wrestlemania: one the negative side, this leaves open the possibility of Cena fighting to regain the WWE title from Umaga at WM :)shock:), and on the positive, it means that we could see a main event that is fresh and exciting (which omits Edge from facing Cena, in that case).
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Trips is done for half a year - who gives a shit about when and how he'll come back, because we all *know* how it's gonna go down. No different than last time, with every guy on the roster writing "chump" on their chest and feeding themselves to the dominant H machine.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if they can push any younger stars within those 6 months.

Nope.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
Instead, let's focus on what this means for Wrestlemania: one the negative side, this leaves open the possibility of Cena fighting to regain the WWE title from Umaga at WM :)shock:), and on the positive, it means that we could see a main event that is fresh and exciting (which omits Edge from facing Cena, in that case).[/QUOTE]

Umaga needs to get out of the title scene... the belt on him is a disgrace. Sorry, but I'm just not an Umaga fan in the least bit.

Someone else had a great with Randy Orton getting a shot with Edge in his corner, Orton wins the belt, than Edge turning on Orton and deciding to go for the belt along with Cena still fighting for it, and you've got a Triple Threat match at Wrestlemania.
 
[quote name='2Fast']WM card:

Batista vs. Booker T[/QUOTE]
I have a feeling it's going to be Kennedy or Finlay vs. Batista.

In the same flow, I hope they're not giving M.V.P. some weird sympathy / defy-all-odds heel push. You know... 'cos that doesn't make any damn sense.
 
[quote name='Brak']I have a feeling it's going to be Kennedy or Finlay vs. Batista.[/quote]

Kennedy and Finlay will be in the Money in the Bank match, no way either of them fights for the title at Wrestlemania.
 
[quote name='2Fast']Kennedy and Finlay will be in the Money in the Bank match, no way either of them fights for the title at Wrestlemania.[/QUOTE]
Damn.
 
hunter1.jpg

The ironic thing about this photo is that his facial expression looks just like mine when he's in the title scene.

Looking at the Raw and Smackdown rosters, there is nobody who can work a 20+ minute WrestleMania main event match other than Umaga, Orton, and Edge. I'd go with Orton just because they (he and Cena) haven't had an extended feud yet, while an Umaga feud is not "WrestleMania worthy," and Edge/Cena's been done so much that and so recently that it's not a WM main event either.

On Smackdown, you have a lot of guys you could bring to Raw and have face Cena: Booker, Finlay, Kane, and The Undertaker. Not all of those choices are probable, of course, and fewer even make sense. Who can Cena face (and beat) at WM that will matter? (I think it's pretty telling that HHH denies all the political self-promotion and suppression of other talent, yet he was the only clear choice for feuding at WM with Cena).

Can anyone come back for a month or two, as a heel, to face Cena?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
hunter1.jpg

The ironic thing about this photo is that his facial expression looks just like mine when he's in the title scene.
[/QUOTE]

I laughed, but still, gotta feel sorry for the guy. He's basacially destroyed his body for the business.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']I laughed, but still, gotta feel sorry for the guy. He's basacially destroyed his body for the business.[/QUOTE]

Lots of people have, and you can name perhaps a dozen that have reaped the rewards HHH has. I don't feel bad for him. I feel bad for Tony Atlas.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Lots of people have, and you can name perhaps a dozen that have reaped the rewards HHH has. I don't feel bad for him. I feel bad for Tony Atlas.[/QUOTE]

Lots of people have, but the number of people who would finish their job out there in the ring? Not many, I assume. I don't think I've ever seen Triple H get an injury and just quit, he always followed shit through to the end.

I've got alot of respect for his in-ring work.
 
If it's Taker, he better win. His WM win streak should never stop.

As for that pic...I wanna photoshop it with the Snickers slogan.

"Not going anywhere for a while?"
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Lots of people have, and you can name perhaps a dozen that have reaped the rewards HHH has. I don't feel bad for him. I feel bad for Tony Atlas.[/QUOTE]

Yea I don't really have any sympathy for him. I do for someone like Konnan though.
 
[quote name='Psykoboy2']If it's Taker, he better win. His WM win streak should never stop.
[/QUOTE]

My favorite recent memory of the Undertaker is when Randy Orton put Taker in a car and then drove the car into the stage and it blew up.

Whatever happened to Bob Orton?
 
They got rid of his ass after they found out he had hepititis and didn't tell anyone and I believe he got blood on Taker before he told anyone causing Taker to flip out.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']They got rid of his ass after they found out he had hepititis and didn't tell anyone and I believe he got blood on Taker before he told anyone causing Taker to flip out.[/QUOTE]
Rightfully so, IMO. I knew it was a pretty controversial thing that happened to him being let go, but don't recall what it was.

I don't disrespect HHH for his work ethic, but I also don't think he should be praised on that alone.
 
What's up with all the HHH hate?

The man is not only 100% percent dedicated to the business, he's damn good at what he does.

Not only that but like it or not he's the guy who's going to get the keys to kingdom when Vince kicks the bucket.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']What's up with all the HHH hate?

The man is not only 100% percent dedicated to the business, he's damn good at what he does.

Not only that but like it or not he's the guy who's going to get the keys to kingdom when Vince kicks the bucket.[/QUOTE]

I think its because of him getting "the keys to the kingdom" is why everyone hates him. Most people think he's too powerful behind the scenes but what's kind of funny is you don't hear a lot of the same people complaining about Jeff Jarrett.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']I think its because of him getting "the keys to the kingdom" is why everyone hates him. Most people think he's too powerful behind the scenes but what's kind of funny is you don't hear a lot of the same people complaining about Jeff Jarrett.[/QUOTE]

I think there is a big difference between the two. Jeff Jarrett helped to build the company he held the belt for where as HHH just fucked Vince's daughter. Plus I would argue that JJ holding onto the belt as much as he did was more to protect his investment in the product. Many of the superstars in TNA probably were not under contract and devaluing the title by having someone jump promotions while having the belt would damage TNA.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Jeff Jarrett helped to build the company he held the belt for where as HHH just fucked Vince's daughter. [/QUOTE]

Jeff Jarrett didn't help build shit, only thing he did was convince Daddy to get back into the wrestling game since he was blackballed.

At least we know that if HHH didn't marry into the family, he still would be at the top.

[quote name='CaseyRyback']JPlus I would argue that JJ holding onto the belt as much as he did was more to protect his investment in the product. Many of the superstars in TNA probably were not under contract and devaluing the title by having someone jump promotions while having the belt would damage TNA.[/QUOTE]

Ah, pulling things out of our ass. What fun!

There's no reason why he should have held the belt as long/as many times as he did.

2.7 years out of about 5 years? 6 reins out of 17? That's fucking ridiculous!

1 November 20, 2002 - June 11, 2003
2 October 22, 2003 - April 21, 2004
3 June 2, 2004 - May 15, 2005
4 September 15, 2005 - October 23, 2005
5 November 3, 2005 - February 12, 2006
6 June 18, 2006 - October 22, 2006


Even if the champ did jump ship, where would they go? Vince wasn't interested in TNA at the time. Even now I doubt they would give a shit if the champ wanted to jump ship.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Jeff Jarrett didn't help build shit, only thing he did was convince Daddy to get back into the wrestling game since he was blackballed.

At least we know that if HHH didn't marry into the family, he still would be at the top.



Ah, pulling things out of our ass. What fun!

There's no reason why he should have held the belt as long/as many times as he did. Can you believe JJ was the champ for about 2.7 years overall?

1 November 20, 2002 - June 11, 2003
2 October 22, 2003 - April 21, 2004
3 June 2, 2004 - May 15, 2005
4 September 15, 2005 - October 23, 2005
5 November 3, 2005 - February 12, 2006
6 June 18, 2006 - October 22, 2006


Even if the champ did jump ship, where would they go? Vince wasn't interested in TNA at the time. Even now I doubt they would give a shit if the champ wanted to jump ship.[/quote]

Jeff as alot more chances of getting the belt or always winning than hhh. I was shocked when he beat guys like ddp,monty brown,scott hall,kevin nash and others I forget to mention.
 
Umaga jumped to WWE and didn't ever drop the title in Japan. WWE doesn't care how people burn bridges with the promotions they leave.

Shannon Moore jumped ship while he was getting pushed in TNA, so did Sabu. You don't think Vince wouldn't try and cut the legs out from under the only viable threat to his empire?

Also who in TNA aside from AJ and Jarrett would really have been credible title holders? I know I wouldn't be buying tickets to see Ron Killings as champ and he held the belt twice.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Umaga jumped to WWE and didn't ever drop the title in Japan. WWE doesn't care how people burn bridges with the promotions they leave.

Shannon Moore jumped ship while he was getting pushed in TNA, so did Sabu. You don't think Vince wouldn't try and cut the legs out from under the only viable threat to his empire? [/QUOTE]

Honestly?

Yes, I believe he wouldn't do that.

Even if he did steal a champion (which he wouldn't have back in 2002-2005, a majority of JJ's reigns) I fully believe he wouldn't show it/disrepect it on TV. TNA just isn't that big of a fish yet to go after.

[quote name='CaseyRyback']Also who in TNA aside from AJ and Jarrett would really have been credible title holders? I know I wouldn't be buying tickets to see Ron Killings as champ and he held the belt twice.[/QUOTE]

And who was buying tickets to see JJ?
 
I am not saying that he would pull a Ric Flair angle and show it on TV, but rather just take the champ and leave the belt without anyone having it (more akin to Chris Benoit winning the belt than leaving, though without the politics surrounding that situation).

And I bet people in Nashville were buying tickets to see Jarrett.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']what's kind of funny is you don't hear a lot of the same people complaining about Jeff Jarrett.[/QUOTE]

I disagree, not because people are complaining about JJ (they aren't). The reason they aren't, however, is because he's been off of TV since Bound for Glory. During his reign prior to that, and all his other reigns, people were complaining.

On several occasions, chants of "TRIPLE J!" drowned out Jarrett during in-ring promos on TNA. People aren't complaining about Jarrett because he's out of both the title scene and off TV at the moment. If he was on TV, I'm sure some people would claim that he was stealing the thunder from the champ, and making clear that *he* was the man to beat on TNA (just as many make the claim about HHH).
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I am not saying that he would pull a Ric Flair angle and show it on TV, but rather just take the champ and leave the belt without anyone having it (more akin to Chris Benoit winning the belt than leaving, though without the politics surrounding that situation). [/QUOTE]

The worst thing that would happen in that case is a tournment for the title.

[quote name='CaseyRyback']And I bet people in Nashville were buying tickets to see Jarrett.[/QUOTE]

I'm willing to bet that more bought tickets because of the X Division.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']The worst thing that would happen in that case is a tournment for the title.



I'm willing to bet that more bought tickets because of the X Division.[/QUOTE]

Vince Russo and tournaments don't have a really great track record.


And I am not saying the X-division isn't the reason that people are drawn to TNA, because it is the biggest reason for the success of the company IMO. All I am saying is that Jarrett does enough to entertain and I just don't think there were enough worthy people in the company to put the belt on. Do I think he should have been such a belt hog? No, but I am only saying that I understand a lot of the reasoning behind it where as with HHH I don't. HHH was in a company with a roster stacked full of title contenders and continued to hold onto the belt where as Jarrett was holding the belt in a company that relied on people paying 10 dollars a show with a roster that didn't contain all that many marquee names.
 
I work in radio, and we've had rivalries in the market for a while now. One of the key components to a company is that if you are the top, you don't acknowledge those beneath you in either promotion or on the air. It just isn't done. The bottom can come after you all they want. They are trying to get attention and publicity, while you are trying to hold on to number 1, and you don't do that by letting your listeners even know that number 2 exists. Think of the viewer ship of RAW, for example, and compare that to a viewer ship of Impact. Now, out of those people watching RAW, maybe 30% know of TNA, maybe more. But the moment Vince makes mention, then 100% know.
 
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