Kotaku- Extreme GameStop Pricing (Xenoblade) Leaves Some Fans Calling Scam

I'm pretty sure certain publishers put strict guidelines in place as to what there games can be sold for. I know activision won't allow retailers to do a straight up discount on any COD game for a few weeks after it releases and that is why you see GC and points deals.
You can't have pricing agreements that are anti-competitive (in this case, it would be since GS has exclusive rights to the game). Activision may have told stores they can't discount the game for a certain number of weeks or beyond a certain point, but really, there's nothing stopping the stores from doing so, other than Activision not willing to deal with them in the future (which is unlikely, unless it's a very small retailer). Most stores probably wouldn't care about "no discount" rules though, since they make more money by keeping the price at MSRP.

Companies can have agreements on sales, promotions (Greatest Hits pricing, value packs) and also on how the game is displayed but these types of agreements have to be offered universally to all stores and one store cannot get an offer that's better/worse than what's offered to other retailers. As for whether stores adjust their prices to reflect any discounts/credits the store received are another story. But as far as I know, it's illegal to have type of pricing agreement where a publisher requires a retailer to sell the item for a specific price.

 
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IGN has a controversial article talking about this game being restocked by GS as well as Metroid Prime Trilogy.

http://www.ign.com/a...ked-at-gamestop

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Xenoblade and Metroid Prime Being Restocked at Gamestop Despite controversial price points, “several vintage titles” will be sold both online and in stores.

by IGN Staff
August 13, 2013



 

 


 
GameStop issued the following statement to Joystiq today defending their $90 price point for used copies of Xenoblade Chronicles, a notoriously difficult to find game released only through the games retailer and Nintendo’s online store:

"Gamestop regularly receives feedback from our PowerUp members regarding old titles they would like us to bring back, such as vintage games like Xenoblade Chronicles. We were recently able to source a limited number of copies of this title to carry in our stores and online.

In fact, we have sourced several more vintage titles that will be hitting stores in the coming months, including Metroid Prime Trilogy.

As always, our pricing for these games is competitive and is based on current market value driven by supply and demand. PowerUp Pro members always receive a 10 percent discount and earn PUR points on pre-owned purchases.”

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Xenoblade Chronicles -- which IGN Selected as the Best Game on Wii in 2012 -- reappeared in stock at Gamestop last week. The original released on Wii on April 6, 2012. Currently, a used copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy costs $84.99 and is listed as not available.

We have reached out to Gamestop for clarification on today’s statement.




 
You know how many copies of Radiant Dawn sold in the US? 

Around 200K, last I checked. I got that day 1. I was so in love with the GC version. Had no idea price went up like that. 

(Pats self on back)

 
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When Gamestop is discussing MPT in the same Vintage line as Xenoblade, this points moreso to them hoarding used copies from offering higher TIV than an actual reprint. Xenoblade may be in some sort of gray area that we do not know the full distributor details, but MPT is pretty cut and dry. Nintendo has repeatedly announced no reprints of MPT, so I doubt that four years later they would finally cave, and exclusively to one retailer.

Gamestop has raised the price silently from $60 to $85 in the past couple of months on MPT, which usually coincides with the higher TIVs offered. They are doing the same thing with FE Radiant Dawn, I always get emails to trade in my copy, buffered by the current $65 used price now.

Also reports of people seeing copies of Xenoblade in-store that have less than perfect manuals (or even missing manuals) adds to this fact. The only X factor are the CN codes being unused, but honestly, 90% (if even 99%) of Nintendo owners don't even know about the program. As far as I see it, the only things they are "reprinting" are the cover arts and cases if they have to.

I guess I'll have to swing by a couple local GS that have Xenoblade stock to check this out for myself.

If gs was hoarding copies, no copies would have been found at all anywhere. I have seen copies pop up for xeno and metroid (before the xeno "reprint", I just don't wish to pay that much for a used game.

This was a reprint. Nintendos silence on this issue and other factors already discuss make it more plausible than gamestop having people all acorss the us trade in their copies of a game that was barely bought to begin with.

 
This was a reprint. Nintendos silence on this issue and other factors already discuss make it more plausible than gamestop having people all acorss the us trade in their copies of a game that was barely bought to begin with.
Looks like Nintendo did release a statement recently:

When reached for comment, a representative of Nintendo responded that "This is actually a GameStop issue and has nothing to do with Nintendo. GameStop can comment, but Nintendo does not have a statement."

http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-taking-heat-amid-xenoblade-controversy-259964.phtml

 
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Nintendo declined to comment? If i were Monolith, I'd be getting my lawyers on the phone making sure I am getting paid. If you want to hit anyones facebook, it should be nintendo and monoliths.


What they fail to understand is that current market value goes down when more stock comes in. They can't make a million more copies and expect there to be a million more people who will pay that price.
Monolith equals Nintendo.
 
Looks like Nintendo did release a statement recently:

When reached for comment, a representative of Nintendo responded that "This is actually a GameStop issue and has nothing to do with Nintendo. GameStop can comment, but Nintendo does not have a statement."

http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-taking-heat-amid-xenoblade-controversy-259964.phtml

What a non-answer.

Nintendo basically gave the go ahead and probably got more money from this. At least come right out and admit it, you'll look less stupid.

 
What a non-answer.

Nintendo basically gave the go ahead and probably got more money from this. At least come right out and admit it, you'll look less stupid.
I agree the answer is extremely vague...but I'm personally getting the impression from the context that they had nothing to do with it

 
I kinda think Nintendo's statement was a bit on the dodgy side. I doubt GS has the right to use the "Nintendo" logo without Nintendo's permission. I'm guessing Nintendo was more than willing to issue a reprint given how the Wii U is faltering and the 3DS/DS/Wii can only do so much. 
 
I wonder if the Prime Trilogy reprint will be a LE or a if it's just the game (probably will since the last time Nintendo reprinted something, they reprinted an LE). Either way, for that one, Nintendo is going to have a harder time defending the "durrrr we don knos" stance. 
 
BTW, anyone notice the price for their other upcoming reprint? It was $75 until recently (hell, last week, I think).
 
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What a non-answer.

Nintendo basically gave the go ahead and probably got more money from this. At least come right out and admit it, you'll look less stupid.
GameStop has the right to distribute the game. It looks like there was no restriction on prints, so they're distributing the game as they have the right to do.

 
IF Gamestop did reprint the game it may end up backfiring on them anyway, I don't see too many people buying it at that price anyway.

 
 
IF Gamestop did reprint the game it may end up backfiring on them anyway, I don't see too many people buying it at that price anyway.
people are buying them, if you take a look at some of the posts in the deals forum. people are happy they can use the 20% off preowned gamestop coupon to knock down the price.
 
Selling each copy for $88 bucks. Thats a total of $264. It cost him $180 for three copies. Take away tax, shipping, and fees he would have made about $50 and that doesn't include gas.

Seriously, why bother?

 
All the more reason why people should understand why Gamestop put a $90 used price tag on this. Unless they did some sort of instore only, one copy per customer sort of deal (and somehow ensure that an eager flipper can't just drive around town to snatch up all the copies), putting a $50 price, new or used, would just egg on profit seekers that much more.

 
All the more reason why people should understand why Gamestop put a $90 used price tag on this. Unless they did some sort of instore only, one copy per customer sort of deal (and somehow ensure that an eager flipper can't just drive around town to snatch up all the copies), putting a $50 price, new or used, would just egg on profit seekers that much more.
If anything, Gamestop can make the coupons to exclude "vintage games" if they really wanted. I don't blame Gamestop for having the price they have, everybody isn't blind to what eBay is. I'm just curious to what is going if they do actively pursue older titles.

 
 
All the more reason why people should understand why Gamestop put a $90 used price tag on this.  Unless they did some sort of instore only, one copy per customer sort of deal (and somehow ensure that an eager flipper can't just drive around town to snatch up all the copies), putting a $50 price, new or used, would just egg on profit seekers that much more.
in a strange way, gamestop is actually creating competition with the flippers/sellers on ebay, and it might actually drop the price xenoblade lower.
 
  in a strange way, gamestop is actually creating competition with the flippers/sellers on ebay, and it might actually drop the price xenoblade lower.
Yea, I expect that the price will drop. Those that have been looking for a copy will be able to locate one now for $80-$90. eBay sellers may try to move their copies they got a deal on for a bit less and there starts the price drop. The only thing is that New/Sealed copies, with the pre-order bonus, will remain rare and those prices likely won't budge.

Wasn't Metroid Prime also mentioned? I wanted to add both of these, but in some way it makes acquiring them seem less appealing to me.

 
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 Yea, I expect that the price will drop. Those that have been looking for a copy will be able to locate one now for $80-$90. eBay sellers may try to move their copies they got a deal on for a bit less and there starts the price drop. The only thing is that New/Sealed copies, with the pre-order bonus, will remain rare and those prices likely won't budge. 
 
Wasn't Metroid Prime also mentioned? I wanted to add both of these, but in some way it makes acquiring them seem less appealing to me. 
i mean gamers, who actually want to play this game, will look for the "slightly", more affordable price offer by gamestop on used copies. I doubt it would have much effect on the sealed, new copies of the game. you never know,gamestop might drop the price, eventually down the road.
 
Nintendo declined to comment? If i were Monolith, I'd be getting my lawyers on the phone making sure I am getting paid. If you want to hit anyones facebook, it should be nintendo and monoliths.
Monolith already got paid when GameStop bought their copies, either the first run or the "reprint." Even if GS sells New games as Used, Nintendo and Monolith already got their money
 
Has anyone received a copy of Prime Trilogy since the reprint? I'm curious to see if it's actually the LE. 

Additionally, I'm curious as to why copies haven't shown up at stores near me (closest is 30 miles away). There's a handful of copies around but Xenoblade was in stock at nearly every store within days of going up online. 

 
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Has anyone received a copy of Prime Trilogy since the reprint? I'm curious to see if it's actually the LE.

Additionally, I'm curious as to why copies haven't shown up at stores near me (closest is 30 miles away). There's a handful of copies around but Xenoblade was in stock at nearly every store within days of going up online.
It's not. The copy I saw had the Nintendo-branded white Wii U case with an official insert an manual with none of the steelbook extras. It is the most obvious reprint I have ever seen in my life.

 
http://t.co/qfy2dWK2fD

My response is shared by my friend and former Game Crazy/Gamestop manager. Where was everyone when copies were gathering dust on shelves at GS for $50 last year?
Waiting for a price drop, unfortunately. (Not me though, I bought 3 separate new releases of this game.)

I've said this before, but even though this is kinda shady, GS has every right to do this since without them, this game probably wouldn't have made it to the states. Hell, even NoA is probably wishing they released this on their own now... they heard the fans and saw NoE's success with the game but still choose ignore them.

 
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My response is shared by my friend and former Game Crazy/Gamestop manager. Where was everyone when copies were gathering dust on shelves at GS for $50 last year?
Not everyone likes opened games.

My store actually got LESS of this game on release than this latest reprint.

From link: "Xenoblade Chronicles very likely would not have come out in the United States had GameStop not sold it"
FALSE. XSEED published both The Last Story and Pandora's Tower with The Last Story being their highest selling game ever, at time of release. They would have jumped on Xenoblade for sure.

Let it also be said, the localization for this was done way back before 2011 (when it was released in EU) and they used that exact same "Armour" instead of "Armor" spelling and EU voice cast. So plenty of other publishers could have picked it up with little risk.

Now, if you think having just a year, or less than a year to buy a title then you are SOL to ever find a copy is ok, then I feel sorry for you. That means you can't buy games like Skyrim now because you "missed out on it, you dumb****". I have a few friends who just recently were able to pick up and start Skyrim, as their time now allows.

I don't buy every game on release, luckily JRPGs like this I do because I want to play them right away. But maybe other people were buying other $60 titles that year, it was just 2012, and didn't want to take a chance on a Wii RPG.

So, you'd be ok if The Last of Us, one year after release, all copies were used and went for $110 with no digital options? It's Vintage!

I'm ok with any reprints. My Collector sense isn't offended if game values go down, imo that's good. I don't think I said it in this thread yet, but I think it's great that more people get to play good games that were under supported. I just find it appalling they'd charge $90 for a used Wii game (Imagine $105-$110 if it was a 360/PS3 game).

 
Not everyone likes opened games.

My store actually got LESS of this game on release than this latest reprint.

FALSE. XSEED published both The Last Story and Pandora's Tower with The Last Story being their highest selling game ever, at time of release. They would have jumped on Xenoblade for sure.

Let it also be said, the localization for this was done way back before 2011 (when it was released in EU) and they used that exact same "Armour" instead of "Armor" spelling and EU voice cast. So plenty of other publishers could have picked it up with little risk.

Now, if you think having just a year, or less than a year to buy a title then you are SOL to ever find a copy is ok, then I feel sorry for you. That means you can't buy games like Skyrim now because you "missed out on it, you dumb****". I have a few friends who just recently were able to pick up and start Skyrim, as their time now allows.

I don't buy every game on release, luckily JRPGs like this I do because I want to play them right away. But maybe other people were buying other $60 titles that year, it was just 2012, and didn't want to take a chance on a Wii RPG.

So, you'd be ok if The Last of Us, one year after release, all copies were used and went for $110 with no digital options? It's Vintage!

I'm ok with any reprints. My Collector sense isn't offended if game values go down, imo that's good. I don't think I said it in this thread yet, but I think it's great that more people get to play good games that were under supported. I just find it appalling they'd charge $90 for a used Wii game (Imagine $105-$110 if it was a 360/PS3 game).
Umm my Gamestop had DOUBLE DIGIT sealed copies that gathered dust all last year, it's the one talked about in the article. Since it had a couple of preorders for Xenoblade the store's initial shipment was around 15-20 copies.

Just like how this month the same store had 10 or 12 preorders for Xillia (2 of which were collectors,) got about 20 or so first editions, sold through those, then got another 12-15 vanilla copies sent out to them within a week.

 
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My response is shared by my friend and former Game Crazy/Gamestop manager. Where was everyone when copies were gathering dust on shelves at GS for $50 last year?
Yeah, no. The reason everyone is pissed about this Xenoblade reprint is because GameStop was the only retailer carrying Xenoblade and decided to skirt MSRP by selling it used. When they pull this crap with games like Portal 2 you can just tell them to fuck off and buy it new for half as much at other retailers. This isn't an option with Xenoblade, since they're the sole retail outlet for it. They could have left the plastic wrap on, sold it at MSRP and advertised it as "NOW BACK IN STOCK!", but they didn't. They're goosing their inventory to make almost double the money and it's shady as fuck.

It's the same situation with the Metroid Prime Trilogy reprint: they could have just reprinted it and sold it sans steelbook for $20/30/50, but instead they decided to abuse their own system and sell it for twice as much.

 
Nintendo should jump in on this and sell reprints of Xenoblade and Metroid Prime Trilogy new/sealed for $50 each.  Then again, that might make Gamestop mad and cause them not to carry Nintendo games as an extreme case.

Anyway, I still kind of wish Nintendo would release Metroid Prime 1 and 2 as separate Wii New Play Control games and/or as individual Nintendo Select titles.

I think everyone should just not buy Xenoblade and Metroid Prime Trilogy from Gamestop.  Wait for the price drop and then buy the game at a lower price.  I'm really glad I got Xenoblade at launch and still have a Gamecube to play Metroid Prime 1 and 2.

 
if Nintendo was smart, they'd sell digital versions.  Nowadays, I would think it'd make more sense (from a company's perspective) for digital release alongside retail or later on when it seems there is a demand rather than doing a reprint

 
This may be a relatively unique circumstance, but other companies do similar stuff. I just looked at FYE's website and Gundam 08th MS Team Volume 4 is $35 while A Wakening of a Trailblazer Blu-ray is $100.
 
But hording product and selling them at a profit later? That isn't a scam, that's capitalism.

Sure, unethical capitalism but capitalism nonetheless. Then again this is Gamestop were talking about. One of the most unethical companies on the market. Not sure why anyone would be surprised by these kinds of moves coming from Gamestop. Its for reasons like this that I stopped supporting them 5+ years ago. You should expect these kinds of moves from Gamestop.

 
Unless someone has already said it. The copies of Xenoblade for 90$ Pre-Owned are not a reprint. They're copies left over from when people traded in both a copy of Xenoblade and Metroid Prime Trilogy to Gamestop for an easy 50$ or 60$ (This was during a deal bring in both games for 50-60$) I can't remember when but yeah they haven't been reprinted. 

 
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Unless someone has already said it. The copies of Xenoblade for 90$ Pre-Owned are not a reprint. They're copies left over from when people traded in both a copy of Xenoblade and Metroid Prime Trilogy to Gamestop for an easy 50$ or 60$ (This was during a deal bring in both games for 50-60$) I can't remember when but yeah they haven't been reprinted.
They are reprints. Original copies of Xenoblade came in a case that had "Wii" on the inside, whereas the reprints (which suddenly started appearing in stores overnight, and in ample supply) came in a case that says "Nintendo" on the inside. There are more copies of the original floating around now since the reprint is slowly killing the price and people are trying to dump them for whatever they can get.

Additionally, the reprinted copies were gem mint condition and had unused ClubNintendo codes.

 
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Well I'm glad I sold my copy of Xenoblade for $50 + Bioshock Infinite then beat Bioshock and traded it into Amazon for $28 credit. This was months ago when I realized I hate the ugly SD graphics that Xenoblade has.
 
They are reprints. Original copies of Xenoblade came in a case that had "Wii" on the inside, whereas the reprints (which suddenly started appearing in stores overnight, and in ample supply) came in a case that says "Nintendo" on the inside. There are more copies of the original floating around now since the reprint is slowly killing the price and people are trying to dump them for whatever they can get.

Additionally, the reprinted copies were gem mint condition and had unused ClubNintendo codes.
I don't know about that since I never purchased a copy but I have read sites that there was a deal to trade in both games for 50-60$

I have never seen a source that has blatantly said they're reprints though. I've only seen sites that claim they're but have no proof.

Some people could have also taken great care of the cases and didn't decide to use the ClubNintendo codes.

 
Taken care of cases that didn't exist before? A logo switch isn't something that happens to a game on a mass level randomly.

Next you'll say Metroid Prime Trilogy isn't a reprint, because not every copy was a Steelbook (they were) and uses the same new cases as Xenoblade.

 
I don't know about that since I never purchased a copy but I have read sites that there was a deal to trade in both games for 50-60$

I have never seen a source that has blatantly said they're reprints though. I've only seen sites that claim they're but have no proof.

Some people could have also taken great care of the cases and didn't decide to use the ClubNintendo codes.
They are reprints. There isn't really much to discuss.

 
I spoke to a Gamestop manager the other day. We know each other just because I go to the store often. 

Anyway, after shooting the shit he said only 1,000 copies were distributed throughout the country. Not sure if that's true or not so take it with a grain of salt. 

But, yea, it does suck the price dropped so much, especially for day 1 buyers. If this was a stock I'd put it on "Hold." I'm sure it will pick up its value in the future. Plus, those of us that got it day 1 have that artbook, which sells for about $20 on its own. 

 
I spoke to a Gamestop manager the other day. We know each other just because I go to the store often.

Anyway, after shooting the shit he said only 1,000 copies were distributed throughout the country. Not sure if that's true or not so take it with a grain of salt.

But, yea, it does suck the price dropped so much, especially for day 1 buyers. If this was a stock I'd put it on "Hold." I'm sure it will pick up its value in the future. Plus, those of us that got it day 1 have that artbook, which sells for about $20 on its own.
I'm willing to bet there are far more then 1,000 in circulation. There have to be more then 1,000 GS in the CONUSA and almost all in my area and up and down the Northeast have at least a few in stock as not a single store shows "low stock" or "no stock".

 
Taken care of cases that didn't exist before? A logo switch isn't something that happens to a game on a mass level randomly.

Next you'll say Metroid Prime Trilogy isn't a reprint, because not every copy was a Steelbook (they were) and uses the same new cases as Xenoblade.
Actually I wouldn't because I had no idea they got more copies of Metroid Prime Trilogy. However like I said before I've never seen the inside of the case so I have no idea if there is a logo change. Also still haven't seen a website that says they got the information from a liable source. Nintendo, Gamestop etc. I've only seen a website that is just pure speculation.

Vinny said the logo is in the inside of the case. I just checked one of my own Wii Games Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny and I've seen no such logo Nintendo or Wii on the inside of the case.

They are reprints. There isn't really much to discuss.
Seems there is if people are still talking about it.

 
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Some Wii games, especially 3rd party, just use regular white DVD cases. Nintendo games use the Wii/Nintendo logo.
 
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