According to you a police officer would never drink and drive because they shold know better.
Let's argue about Mike Brown!
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[quote name="Msut77" post="12264145" timestamp="1416827577"]According to you a police officer would never drink and drive because they shold know better.[/quote]
No. It's just that I don't assume things without evidence backing it. Forensics don't really lie.
I'd like someone to find one instance (with evidence) of a police officer just grabbing someone (with hopes of apprehension) from within a closed vehicle. Until that happens, it's dumb to assume that is more likely to have happened versus the opposing viewpoint. Because people are creatures of habit, and don't tend to stray from their normal processes. I've yet to run across ONE officer that's done that.
No. It's just that I don't assume things without evidence backing it. Forensics don't really lie.
I'd like someone to find one instance (with evidence) of a police officer just grabbing someone (with hopes of apprehension) from within a closed vehicle. Until that happens, it's dumb to assume that is more likely to have happened versus the opposing viewpoint. Because people are creatures of habit, and don't tend to stray from their normal processes. I've yet to run across ONE officer that's done that.
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Cause training NEVER fails, right?
Again with your reading comprehension issues and strawmen! Is reading too hard for you or something? Either the cop grabbed Brown or Brown tried to commit Murder 1. Those are the most plausible scenarios that led to a struggle in the car, which the forensics back up(that there was a struggle in the car; not what led to it). You want to cry about assumptions? Well you're making a whopper of one by assuming that Brown threw the first punch and tried to grab the cop's gun. You want to talk about me testing out how hard it is to restrain someone from a car? Well maybe you should have one of your buddies try to take your gun from your secured holster while sitting in the driver's seat in a LHD car.
As for crying out racism, maybe you should re-read my posts again. You're confusing me for someone else. No surprise there.
Or maybe Brown saw the cop pull the gun and was trying to protect himself from being shot because Ferguson PD has a history of roughing up black folks. Nah, that's also an impossible scenario because "training," right? Is beating the shit out of suspects part of that training too?
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[quote name="dohdough" post="12264593" timestamp="1416842637"]Cause training NEVER fails, right? Again with your reading comprehension issues and strawmen! Is reading too hard for you or something? Either the cop grabbed Brown or Brown tried to commit Murder 1. Those are the most plausible scenarios that led to a struggle in the car, which the forensics back up(that there was a struggle in the car; not what led to it). You want to cry about assumptions? Well you're making a whopper of one by assuming that Brown threw the first punch and tried to grab the cop's gun. You want to talk about me testing out how hard it is to restrain someone from a car? Well maybe you should have one of your buddies try to take your gun from your secured holster while sitting in the driver's seat in a LHD car.As for crying out racism, maybe you should re-read my posts again. You're confusing me for someone else. No surprise there. Or maybe Brown saw the cop pull the gun and was trying to protect himself from being shot because Ferguson PD has a history of roughing up black folks. Nah, that's also an impossible scenario because "training," right? Is beating the shit out of suspects part of that training too?[/quote]Once again, your order of events fails basic reasoning. But hey, we'll see if the Grand Jury agrees.
Again, I'd like to see video evidence of what would lead up to such a situation actually happening in real life. That'd be cool.
Again with your reading comprehension issues and strawmen! Is reading too hard for you or something? Either the cop grabbed Brown or Brown tried to commit Murder 1. Those are the most plausible scenarios that led to a struggle in the car, which the forensics back up(that there was a struggle in the car; not what led to it). You want to cry about assumptions? Well you're making a whopper of one by assuming that Brown threw the first punch and tried to grab the cop's gun. You want to talk about me testing out how hard it is to restrain someone from a car? Well maybe you should have one of your buddies try to take your gun from your secured holster while sitting in the driver's seat in a LHD car.As for crying out racism, maybe you should re-read my posts again. You're confusing me for someone else. No surprise there. Or maybe Brown saw the cop pull the gun and was trying to protect himself from being shot because Ferguson PD has a history of roughing up black folks. Nah, that's also an impossible scenario because "training," right? Is beating the shit out of suspects part of that training too?[/quote]Once again, your order of events fails basic reasoning. But hey, we'll see if the Grand Jury agrees.Again, I'd like to see video evidence of what would lead up to such a situation actually happening in real life. That'd be cool.
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That's because you don't have any reading comprehension skills. Not my problem, bucko.
Oh puh-lease. Everyone knows that the cop isn't going to get indicted and even if he does, he's gonna walk and still be on the force.
You know what else would be cool? If I could get a copy of Bio-Booster Armor Guyver: Act 2 with the original animation again too. Find me that and I'll go through the effort of finding yours.
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[quote name="dohdough" post="12265305" timestamp="1416856239"]That's because you don't have any reading comprehension skills. Not my problem, bucko.
Oh puh-lease. Everyone knows that the cop isn't going to get indicted and even if he does, he's gonna walk and still be on the force.
You know what else would be cool? If I could get a copy of Bio-Booster Armor Guyver: Act 2 with the original animation again too. Find me that and I'll go through the effort of finding yours.[/quote]
Funny how you won't attempt to find it, because you know you couldn't find it. Because it doesn't
ing happen.
This just in: dohdough refuses to address issues and refuses to put out any conclusive evidence backing his opinion, but still tries to claim high ground. Fails miserably.
Oh puh-lease. Everyone knows that the cop isn't going to get indicted and even if he does, he's gonna walk and still be on the force.
You know what else would be cool? If I could get a copy of Bio-Booster Armor Guyver: Act 2 with the original animation again too. Find me that and I'll go through the effort of finding yours.[/quote]
Funny how you won't attempt to find it, because you know you couldn't find it. Because it doesn't
ing happen.This just in: dohdough refuses to address issues and refuses to put out any conclusive evidence backing his opinion, but still tries to claim high ground. Fails miserably.
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What's even funnier is when you drop a line of argumentation when you know I'm right.Funny how you won't attempt to find it, because you know you couldn't find it. Because it doesn't
Yeah, every police encounter is magically caught on video and uploaded to youtube for everyone's enjoyment. We hardly get any video of police brutality to begin with and now you want one of a specific action? I bet cops jerk off, but that doesn't mean there's video of them during it in the line of duty. Or how about cops sexually assaulting people? Since there's no video, does it mean it doesn't
ing happen? Of course not and it's ridiculous to insist on that type of proof.[quote name="dohdough" post="12265414" timestamp="1416858023"]What's even funnier is when you drop a line of argumentation when you know I'm right.
Yeah, every police encounter is magically caught on video and uploaded to youtube for everyone's enjoyment. We hardly get any video of police brutality to begin with and now you want one of a specific action? I bet cops jerk off, but that doesn't mean there's video of them during it in the line of duty. Or how about cops sexually assaulting people? Since there's no video, does it mean it doesn'ting happen? Of course not and it's ridiculous to insist on that type of proof.[/quote]
Funny thing is, the things you've listed are out there on video. And they don't happen all the time. So, even if it was uncommon, you'd find it. But I know of no one who's done it, even when they were rookies. Because it's aing huge safety risk that has absolutely no incentive to do it.
And the shit storm is about to kick off... dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. Next few days will be fun at work...
Yeah, every police encounter is magically caught on video and uploaded to youtube for everyone's enjoyment. We hardly get any video of police brutality to begin with and now you want one of a specific action? I bet cops jerk off, but that doesn't mean there's video of them during it in the line of duty. Or how about cops sexually assaulting people? Since there's no video, does it mean it doesn't
ing happen? Of course not and it's ridiculous to insist on that type of proof.[/quote]Funny thing is, the things you've listed are out there on video. And they don't happen all the time. So, even if it was uncommon, you'd find it. But I know of no one who's done it, even when they were rookies. Because it's a
ing huge safety risk that has absolutely no incentive to do it.And the shit storm is about to kick off... dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. Next few days will be fun at work...
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Really? We're back to this argument again?
You will never in a million years get a court to agree that if a police officer pulls a gun on you, you should engage him in a struggle for the weapon. No way. No how. I don't care who you are or what you believe. No one will EVER deem that a justifiable response. You can say "But MAYBE he intended to do me harm." Well, we'll never know because you decided to engage him in a life threatening struggle and give him cause for doing you harm.
And if your defense is just a general distrust for law enforcement and an unwillingness to comply, then life is going to be very hard for you. This isn't to say there haven't been/aren't bad cops. But unless you have solid evidence that the LEO told you to get on your knees and suck his dick, you are not going to find a court that is ok with you fighting and resisting.
Even if it's not a cop, Jesus Christ, 99.9% of the time, if someone has a gun on you, the appropriate response is to back down and give them what they want. Let me guess "The cop would have killed him anyway." Again, general distrust for law enforcement = good luck in life.
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But unless you have solid evidence that the LEO told you to get on your knees and suck his dick, you are not going to find a court that is ok with you fighting and resisting.
Apparently LEO do not need such level of evidence before they start shooting?
Anyways we are all in trouble when one group are no longer held accountable.
Apparently LEO do not need such level of evidence before they start shooting?
Anyways we are all in trouble when one group are no longer held accountable.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE GOING TO RIOT TONIGHT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
love how all of these people have time to walk down the streets holding signs. Maybe they should get aING JOB instead of walking down the streets protesting every ing day. Then again if they were forced to get jobs they would say that is racist.
love how all of these people have time to walk down the streets holding signs. Maybe they should get a
ING JOB instead of walking down the streets protesting every ing day. Then again if they were forced to get jobs they would say that is racist.
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Im glad you have your priorities in life straight.... Money before rights.OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE GOING TO RIOT TONIGHT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
love how all of these people have time to walk down the streets holding signs. Maybe they should get a
Hey next time we should starve people like in Cuba or Africa, too hungry to fight for freedom
LOL rights. Yea they have the right to burn down stores, They have the right to steal from stores. What the hell am i talking about they steal from working people every day by sitting on their asses getting their goverment checks instead of working
Love how his family says they are not be giving the respect we should get when they only get a PHONE call telling them what is going on.
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Yea cause you lump the rioters along with everyone else.....LOL rights. Yea they have the right to burn down stores, They have the right to steal from stores. What the hell am i talking about they steal from working people every day by sitting on their asses getting their goverment checks instead of working
Love how his family says they are not be giving the respect we should get when they only get a PHONE call telling them what is going on.
its the truth. the people are just there to riot and steal crap, if not they could of stayed in their own home towns and did their own protest. Love to see they look at the video tape of all of the people who are standing around all day protesting this crap and see how many of them have FAKE disable claims saying they cant STAND OR WALK long distances and kick the ers off the free handout wagon
ers off the free handout wagon
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Well, at least one person couldn't wait until the Grand Jury verdict before they started shooting guns. Fortunately the only person she hurt was herself: http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/videos/white-woman-waving-gun-accidentally-kills-herself-last-words-were-ready-ferguson-video/
Maybe they work overnight delivering newspapers and then sit on a message board all day bitching about how no one is at work during the day...OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE GOING TO RIOT TONIGHT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
love how all of these people have time to walk down the streets holding signs. Maybe they should get a
yea right they work over night. So they must get in their cars, Drive all the way to the other cities they came from, work, get back into their cars and drive across country so they can protest again.
YEA RIGHT
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I thought New Mexico had a problem with shoot first ask questions later, but in "sleepy" Utah, death by cop has beaten homicide by any other type in the state. http://www.sltrib.com/news/1842489-155/killings-by-utah-police-outpacing-gang?fullpage=1 Holy balls.
balls.
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Why are people in denial that we have a serious policing problem in this country and that the over militarization is the cause of it.
Do you not understand why people no longer give a fark, when they are threaten by the GOV'T
Do you not understand why people no longer give a fark, when they are threaten by the GOV'T
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http://www.mintpressnews.com/us-police-murdered-5000-innocent-civilians-since-911/172029/
I like to see people who like Fearia, continue to defend this nonsense
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I like to see people who like Fearia, continue to defend this nonsense
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And yet, when folks want to carry guns and say they don't trust the government, they're labeled as extreme wacko nutjobs.
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If you're in the Missouri area, be safe.
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Another piece of shît cop gets away with murder.
So this is what I got from what I just heard:
Brown steals cigarillos, clerk calls the police, Wilson hears dispatch, proceeds to area and sees Brown and blocks him off with his vehicle. This is where I got lost with all the talk of witness statements, plus I was distracted at work.
This is what I got: At this point Brown charged Officer Wilson while still inside his car and then fired off two shots wounding Brown. Brown ran but stops turns and charges, gets into a scuffle where he is shot and killed then.
Then his body was left on the street for over 4 hours. Most of the initial eyewitnesses lied putting Wilson in a negative light saying Brown was shot in the back. That snowballed out of control thanks to social media & news.
If all this is true (not saying it is) then those witnesses that lied even before this investigation got legs are really to blame for a lot of this.
Brown steals cigarillos, clerk calls the police, Wilson hears dispatch, proceeds to area and sees Brown and blocks him off with his vehicle. This is where I got lost with all the talk of witness statements, plus I was distracted at work.
This is what I got: At this point Brown charged Officer Wilson while still inside his car and then fired off two shots wounding Brown. Brown ran but stops turns and charges, gets into a scuffle where he is shot and killed then.
Then his body was left on the street for over 4 hours. Most of the initial eyewitnesses lied putting Wilson in a negative light saying Brown was shot in the back. That snowballed out of control thanks to social media & news.
If all this is true (not saying it is) then those witnesses that lied even before this investigation got legs are really to blame for a lot of this.
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a lot of people do. awhile back we had a person go into a Beer place, rob the place and told the person to get down on his knees and he will leave them alone. Worker gets down on his knees and the robber shoot the man in the back of the head. The robber is caught and plea bargins to a few years behind bars and then hes a free man just to kill again (what he did)
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If you are inside a car and someone charges at you, I'm sure you have no justification to use deadly force
Metal vs. Human skin....lol
Anyways I don't blame people for burning everything down, considering when your life is worthless in the eyes of others, everything else is worthless to you.
Only way to ever get even is to destroy the city and a dead city is one that a corrupt gov't won't have anything left. Only way to break a gov't is to destroy its infrastructure and economics
Metal vs. Human skin....lol
Anyways I don't blame people for burning everything down, considering when your life is worthless in the eyes of others, everything else is worthless to you.
Only way to ever get even is to destroy the city and a dead city is one that a corrupt gov't won't have anything left. Only way to break a gov't is to destroy its infrastructure and economics
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If you are inside a car and someone charges at you, I'm sure you have no justification to use deadly force
Metal vs. Human skin....lol
Anyways I don't blame people for burning everything down, considering when your life is worthless in the eyes of others, everything else is worthless to you.
Only way to ever get even is to destroy the city and a dead city is one that a corrupt gov't won't have anything left. Only way to break a gov't is to destroy its infrastructure and economics
Metal vs. Human skin....lol
Anyways I don't blame people for burning everything down, considering when your life is worthless in the eyes of others, everything else is worthless to you.
Only way to ever get even is to destroy the city and a dead city is one that a corrupt gov't won't have anything left. Only way to break a gov't is to destroy its infrastructure and economics
Hey sport, I was actually trying to give the benefit of the doubt to people whom slidecage unfoundedly claimed were unemployed. In reality, you should be chastising slidecage for assuming protestors don't have jobs but since he's on your "side" I guess you're gonna defend him? Really, that's where you're at, defending slidecage's rant because he's on your side. Cause how can he know their employment situation?
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If they are not UNEMPLOYED. Then tell me how people from 3 to 4 states over can come over and walk down your streets protesting this every day for the last month +. Sorry but they are not getting back in their cars, driving 12 hours then working then driving back another 12 hours to do another stupid march though downtown.
Also love how it showed on CNN i think that black man walked over to a white women holding up a sign supporting the cop, the guy rips the sign out of her and goes that SHE HAS NO RIGHT TO HOLD THAT SIGN. Yet he thinks he has a right to go over and take her sign and rip it up. If that was the other way around you would heard all of this outright how a white person ripped up a black person sign. BUT nope she has no right to support the cop.
Love how these fools are walking around with their hands in the air says
HANDS UP DONT SHOOT. thinking if they comit a crime all they have to do is put their hands up and nothing can be done to them.
There are even some people who think they have the right to shot a gun at a cop, throw the gun down and then think that the cops have no right to shoot back.
So you think its these people right to RIOT and STEAL and burn down places. I hope the cops crack more of them on their heads, maybe then the morons will learn but they never will
and about if someone charges at you while your in a car they have no right to shoot you? Then i guess that lady down in texas should be in prison for killing the white person who was screaming at her outside her car and she shot an unarm white man killing him and nothing was done to her. O yea that was never covered that much cause it was a Black women who killed an unarm white man
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And to do that, you had to bring up his job? Gotcha.
Mere coincidence that one of the few overnight jobs is the one he happens to have.
I sleep fine, are you sleeping through the night now or do you still need to crawl in bed with mommy and daddy because of the monsters in your closet?
As an aside, for as much as you claim you can "take it" you sure seem to spend a lot of time going out of your way to insert yourself into arguments to try and criticize me. Methinks thou dost protest too much. That's alright, at a certain point you'll surely try to get me banned again, once again proving that you can't "take it."
the riots has started, the national guards would not be far behind.
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There's a world of difference between pointing out the fallacies and double standards in your posts and what you did that got you banned. It was not *me* that banned you. You were banned for your post. Stand up and take responsibility for your actions and stop crying because you were held accountable for what you posted. You keep making wise-cracks about my age, yet you're the one who's acting like a three year old because you got punished for doing something that any reasonable adult would recognize as behavior that is not acceptable.
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McDonald's windows were smashed. A local Mexican restaurant and a Little Ceaser's were set on fire. Cop car on fire. Saw a bunch of protesters say, in a separate incident, "
this car" and smash in the windows. Don Lemon got tear gassed.Protesters marching in Los Angeles and New York as well. Police is escorting the group in Los Angeles.
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So you can take it? But then when you can't take it you have to run to tattle and the other person has to "stand up and take responsibility"? Ok, got it, sport.
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