Liongames.com - Closes It's Doors & Says Farewell

[quote name='pop311']got game today. Thanks Tony ;)[/quote]

Did you get it shipped 1st class, priority, or UPS? I didn't get mine today here in central MA (I was really hoping I would since the USPS "tracking" said it was processed and left Hartford processing center at 7:30 last night.)
 
[quote name='djheini']Did you get it shipped 1st class, priority, or UPS? I didn't get mine today here in central MA (I was really hoping I would since the USPS "tracking" said it was processed and left Hartford processing center at 7:30 last night.)[/quote]

My tracking on usps says the same thing. It's said that for 2 days now. Said it on Tuesday night even tho it was still the 28th lol. So I dunno whats going on. Checked my mail today still wasn't here. Hoping by tomorrow.
 
[quote name='DongHungLong']My tracking on usps says the same thing. It's said that for 2 days now. Said it on Tuesday night even tho it was still the 28th lol. So I dunno whats going on. Checked my mail today still wasn't here. Hoping by tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

being a constant user of amazon all I have to say is that USPS tracking is a joke, chances are the thing will all of a sudden flip to 'Delievered' a day after it arives in your mailbox, lol

it's really only good for knowing when it orginally arrived at the first post office
 
I never recieve an email that my game was shipped or a tracking number. I pre-ordered this back in June of 2007 and has been paid in full since then. What's going on? I'm in CA.
 
[quote name='The GiB']being a constant user of amazon all I have to say is that USPS tracking is a joke, chances are the thing will all of a sudden flip to 'Delievered' a day after it arives in your mailbox, lol

it's really only good for knowing when it orginally arrived at the first post office[/quote]

I've had that happen with both fedex and ups to so its not like any system is immune.
 
I just just checked my shipping thing and it updated, says it left Chicago and I live in the Chi-Town suburbs. So chances are it's on the way to my post office tonight, I'll get it tomorrow. Saturday at the very latest
 
[quote name='The GiB']I just just checked my shipping thing and it updated, says it left Chicago and I live in the Chi-Town suburbs. So chances are it's on the way to my post office tonight, I'll get it tomorrow. Saturday at the very latest[/quote]

Yeah same here, should have it tomorrow! I'm hyped.
 
I just got home and the game was in my mailbox waiting for me. I live all the way out in California, and I only paid for USPS first class, so that's an amazingly fast trip. Thanks a lot, Tony. You have my business from now on.

Chris
 
Mine was in the mailbox when I got home today. Thanks again Tony!

[quote name='The GiB']I just just checked my shipping thing and it updated, says it left Chicago and I live in the Chi-Town suburbs. So chances are it's on the way to my post office tonight, I'll get it tomorrow. Saturday at the very latest[/QUOTE]

Which burbs? I'm in NW Indiana now myself. Good to know there's some local GAF. :)
 
[quote name='The GiB']being a constant user of amazon all I have to say is that USPS tracking is a joke, chances are the thing will all of a sudden flip to 'Delievered' a day after it arives in your mailbox, lol

it's really only good for knowing when it orginally arrived at the first post office[/quote]

Delivery confirmation is not tracking. Its just that, confirmation of delivery. It might update when it arrives to your post office, but its not like UPS that shows it being in transit and when it hits a station in your area. So it flipping to delivered the day it arrives in your mailbox is the very intent of DC. That means your mail carrier scanned it and delivered it.
 
Got mine today as well. Glad I didn't wait though since I'm already 30% into the copy I bought on Tuesday and have spent who knows many hours playing online with friends.
 
Central Mass, still don't have it. No fault of Tony's at all just annoys me how the post office can get something across the country faster than an hour drive would take.
 
I think my copy got stolen. The tracking info shows it was delivered yesterday 05-02-08 @ 9:17 am yet I was home all day and my mailman didn't deliver anything when he came by around 3pm. He also didn't have anything for me today @ 2pm. WTF! I'm pissed!
 
[quote name='mattfoley7']I think my copy got stolen. The tracking info shows it was delivered yesterday 05-02-08 @ 9:17 am yet I was home all day and my mailman didn't deliver anything when he came by around 3pm. He also didn't have anything for me today @ 2pm. WTF! I'm pissed![/quote]

that happened to me on a saturday the mailman delivered it on monday

i think they're sometimes lazy
 
[quote name='dm877']that happened to me on a saturday the mailman delivered it on monday

i think they're sometimes lazy[/QUOTE]

I hope you're right cause if I don't get it soon I'm gonna create my own GTA IV experience.
 
[quote name='mattfoley7']I hope you're right cause if I don't get it soon I'm gonna create my own GTA IV experience.[/quote]

Matt. First thing is check with your mailman. Tell him the treacking number and tell him it says delivered and ask him where it might be. Maybe you will get it monday.
 
[quote name='liongames']Matt. First thing is check with your mailman. Tell him the treacking number and tell him it says delivered and ask him where it might be. Maybe you will get it monday.[/QUOTE]

Well Monday came and went and still no GTA IV HELL I didn't even receive any mail today. I waited at home after work from 2pm to 4pm which is usually the time I get my mail but never saw the mailman and drove around the area to see he was around just maybe running a little late but nope didn't see no mailtruck. I'm gonna try and wait for him again tomorrow after work hopefully I'll see him. This BLOWS!
 
Just out of curiosity, but why don't you guys still waiting just go buy the game at another store, and then return the unopened liongames copy when it arrives in the mail? just make sure to hold on to your receipt. I did this when Halo 3 came out and I had ordered it from Liongames. I bought it from Walmart and 3 days later I returned it. Worked fine. Zero hassle.
 
[quote name='backlund']Just out of curiosity, but why don't you guys still waiting just go buy the game at another store, and then return the unopened liongames copy when it arrives in the mail? just make sure to hold on to your receipt. I did this when Halo 3 came out and I had ordered it from Liongames. I bought it from Walmart and 3 days later I returned it. Worked fine. Zero hassle.[/QUOTE]

I've done that in the past w/ other games and I did that w/ GTA IV but my problem is that my copy from liongames.com was suppose to be here already. I paid for priority shipping and I've yet to get my copy. My main concern is on when I'll be getting my copy from liongames. Like I stated b4 I paid for priority and still no game yet a friend of mine who also ordered from liongames.com and paid for 1st class shipping already got his copy. AAARRRGGGHHH!

UPDATE:(not that anyones social life depends on the outcome of my situation) spoke to my mailman and he told me he'd look for it today and advised me to give it one more day so we'll see whats up tomorrow. cross your fingers everyone!
 
[quote name='mattfoley7']I've done that in the past w/ other games and I did that w/ GTA IV but my problem is that my copy from liongames.com was suppose to be here already. I paid for priority shipping and I've yet to get my copy. My main concern is on when I'll be getting my copy from liongames. Like I stated b4 I paid for priority and still no game yet a friend of mine who also ordered from liongames.com and paid for 1st class shipping already got his copy. AAARRRGGGHHH!

UPDATE:(not that anyones social life depends on the outcome of my situation) spoke to my mailman and he told me he'd look for it today and advised me to give it one more day so we'll see whats up tomorrow. cross your fingers everyone![/quote]

Good luck man, I hope you get it tomorrow!
 
Hmm I haven't tried this site out yet, but if the trade in deal is for a game I want, I might try it out since I got some 360 games I don't touch anymore.
 
I just got this email from LG; good luck w/all your future endeavors Tony!

I wanted to inform everyone that I will be closing the website. This decision was made well over a year ago but I had too many orders on file at the time and I didn’t want people to think that I was running away with their money. GTA4 kept getting pushed forward and ended up getting released late April of 2008. I let the site limp along so people wouldn’t worry about getting their product. Every single customer that paid me for an order got filled. I refunded a few customers for orders that I received this week. Not a single person will have a financial loss due to me closing the website.
I started Liongames in December 2006. My goal was to produce a nice place for gamers to purchase games for the 360, Wii and PS3. I wanted to sell new and used games at great prices. I figured by selling new games at cost and even at $8.00 per copy loss I would attract enough people to the website to buy used games. I viewed the loss on new games as an advertising expense to get the site going. I needed to sell about 100 used games a week at a $10 profit. In turn I would reinvest at least 50% of that money back into discounts on new games. The problem was I never got remotely close to selling 100 used games a week, therefore I couldn’t continue to sell new games at a loss.
I then tried the Roaring Discount Card which would allow members to buy games at my cost for a $25.00 upfront fee. My theory there was if I could sell enough cards I would build in a $25.00 profit per year for each customer and my customers would then be able to buy all the games they wanted at my cost. Once again I was hoping to sell at least 1000 of these cards and only sold a few handfuls.
After that promotion I realized the site wouldn’t ever get to the point of making money and I needed to spend my time on different projects in my life. 2008 also turned out to be a year where family members needed some of mine and my wife’s time due to health reasons. That also meant less time to devote to the website that was not performing.
Another difficult task for me was keeping up the changes on the website. The street date for games change very often. The used game values changed daily, and this fact made it nearly impossible for me to keep up with the trade in values. I did end up overpaying for a number of used games.
Another problem I faced was the fact that I couldn’t get my games on street date. There were a few exceptions where I did get my games before street date. The gaming studios were afraid to ship retailers like myself games early because they were afraid of street date violations. Instead they ship the games early to mass merchants who regularly broke street date. That was kind of ironic to me. Basically my distributor didn’t get most of the games until street date, and I was a 2 day ship from him. At the beginning I considered never touching the product and letting my distributor just ship everything from their warehouse. The problem was that if the product wasn’t shipped UPS, which was very expensive, then it would take to long for my customers to get the games. I learned early that it was better for me to get the games two days after street date and mail them myself, then it was to drop ship everything 2 days earlier. That created a lot of extra work, but this way my customers were able to get the games pretty quickly, especially if they chose priority mail.
These were just a few of the problems that I faced trying to run a good and efficient website.
In the end, even though I lost money, and I pretty proud and happy with the way Liongames turned out. I felt I offered customers great deals as well as unmatched customer service. My used games were second to none. I was tough with trade ins, so my customers got used games in fantastic condition. The other thing I did which was no one else did was to let my customers know the exact condition of the game before they made the purchase. My customer knew if the game was scratched, or missing the directions, or box upfront. That is just one example of how strongly I felt about making Liongames the best place to buy games on the net. I felt I accomplished that hands down in 2007. My customers were able to buy Halo 3, Bioshock for $39.99 and GTA4 for only $42.99. The deals were so good I had to work hard to convince people they were real. I had a lot of fun doing this. I posted on many message boards and communicated and met a ton of nice people.
Liongames made not have made money but I really did enjoy meeting the people from all across the country. I met so many nice people who helped talk me up. I had a few very loyal customers who I hoped enjoyed working with me as much I as enjoyed working with them. I want to thank each and every one of my customers who put faith in me and my website. Your confidence and trust meant a lot to me. I can surely rest comfortably when thinking about Liongames because it was fun and successful in many ways. I was touched by many people over the course of a few years, and hopefully I was able to make a small impression on a few on you. I plan on keeping my customers email addresses in case I ever venture into another web project of any kind. The Liongames website will go off the net within a few weeks. This means I won’t have access to the email addresses either. If anyone needs to get a hold of me for any reason after a few weeks you may do so at my regular email address which is also my paypal address of [email protected] Please feel free to contact me.
I would also like to make clear that the current economy had nothing to do with the website closing. I would say it is just a very tough business model to make work. I have no regrets and I am happy that I gave it a shot. For that it was a positive part of my life and hopefully a positive part of my customers lives. Until our paths cross again, I would like to ask everyone one final time to pick someone in your life and do something nice for them this week. It will surely bring you Joy. Have a great day everyone!
With true appreciation,
Tony

Warmest Regards,
The staff at Lion Games
 
I also just got this letter. It's sad to see the site go out this way. Thanks to Tony for the great deals, and best of luck to him in the future!

MjC
 
I hate to bring up a touchy subject but I had credit with the site. Did anyone ask what he plans on doing with customers who had credit? If not I'm going to send an email.
 
[quote name='saddamizer']All I can say is:



Its about time[/quote]

Why even bother with a comment like this? Go be a douch bag somewhere else k?
 
Thank you Tony, I really appreciated the deals I got from Liongames, and your service was excellent. I'm sorry it didn't work out, and wish you luck in your future endeavors.
 
Just got that email too. I'll never forget the awesome preorder deals I got on Bioshock, Mass Effect and Halo 3. Good luck, Tony.

-Jason
 
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[quote name='Sway']I hate to bring up a touchy subject but I had credit with the site. Did anyone ask what he plans on doing with customers who had credit? If not I'm going to send an email.[/quote]

Hey Sway. Drop me an email with your info and I will send you a check when I verify the credit
 
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