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[quote name='Chris in Cali']Hot Fuzz, 300, TMNT, and The Departed. I also purchased another six Blu-ray movies as well.... I'm going to have to starve all next month :|[/QUOTE]

Good luck with the slew of games coming out this xmas too. :)
 
Just noticed the JPN link on the amazon wars site:
http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd-jp/
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Seems more one sided in Japan. Looks like porn is definitely helping HD-DVD though.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Yeah, on this morning's "Morning Edition." I didn't hear it, but the description on the NPR website mentioned Paramount/DreamWorks getting $150 to make Blu-Ray exclusive releases. Oops.[/QUOTE]
Well, at least they got it right in the broadcast I listened to.

[quote name='dpatel']Just noticed the JPN link on the amazon wars site:
http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd-jp/

Seems more one sided in Japan. Looks like porn is definitely helping HD-DVD though.[/QUOTE]
Whoo! NSFW!

And it looks like this poor yellow-fever victim is going to be picking up an HD player pretty soon :hehe:
 
[quote name='dpatel']Just noticed the JPN link on the amazon wars site:
http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd-jp/

Seems more one sided in Japan. Looks like porn is definitely helping HD-DVD though.[/QUOTE]
Whoo! NSFW!

And it looks like this poor yellow-fever victim is going to be picking up an HD player pretty soon :hehe:
 
[quote name='anomynous']You got Hot Fuzz for free?[/quote] No, he paid for it (sort of). The deal is buy two get one free, so his total was $238.88 - $27.95 (one of three free AGAIN, reducing the cost of the player) + $27.95 (Hot Fuzz), bringing the price back to $238.88.

You CAN get the player and three movies for $210.93, or $204.94 if you get the Amazon 10% discount.
 
Ok...so...Dallow...any Blades of Glory for Blu-ray?
I plan on hitting Blockbuster's that sell HD/BR movies as they are less likely to know about the recall.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']Ok...so...Dallow...any Blades of Glory for Blu-ray?
I plan on hitting Blockbuster's that sell HD/BR movies as they are less likely to know about the recall.[/quote]Sucks that I'm working, I'm having a friend check a few places, and I might try a few on my lunch break! :bomb:

Good luck!
There's an AVS thread dedicated to people who find it.
 
[quote name='dallow']Sucks that I'm working, I'm having a friend check a few places, and I might try a few on my lunch break! :bomb:

Good luck!
There's an AVS thread dedicated to people who find it.[/QUOTE]

I recommend going to Blockbusters that sell BR/HD. They are likely to have it and not know about the recall.
 
it would be even more amazing if they had some better titles... i pretty much have all the good ones..

i think the br list is a tad better but the prices are higher..fuck that
 
[quote name='guyver2077']it would be even more amazing if they had some better titles... i pretty much have all the good ones..

i think the br list is a tad better but the prices are higher..fuck that[/QUOTE]

I couldn't even order a set of 3 as there is none that I don't already have. I did re-order the 360 HD DVD add-on so I could return my current one I JUST bought. 2 Additional movies and $5 cheaper.
 
wow.. thats insane.. i prob wouldnt have gone through that mission..

the a2 did look tempting though. It may keep dropping is the new players come out soon.

Had i not already entered the hd market.. i would have been all over that player with extra movies
 
[quote name='guyver2077']wow.. thats insane.. i prob wouldnt have gone through that mission..

the a2 did look tempting though.[/quote]Dump that mcshitty add-on.
 
[quote name='dallow']Dump that mcshitty add-on.[/QUOTE]

It works just fine.

Actually, come to think of it, I've not played a single movie in it yet...:whistle2:k
 
So IGN is working their Top 50 list of movies that should be in HD. Most of them are obviously catalog releases. I started to wonder though, why are companies focusing resources on putting so many catalog titles into BD and HD? I'd much rather see more new TV series and more foreign/arthouse/limited films come out in high def. Take Showtime for example, they release Weeds season 2 and a catalog release of one, but skip one of their most critically acclaimed shows last year for a Hd release (that being Dexter, not only did they skimp on HD but the SD version has a rough transfer). Friday Night Lights is another show I would've loved to have in HD. They were all broadcasted in HD IIRC. House is another, haven't even gotten a catalog release and the show is in HD for every episode and is very popular. Even some larger films are missing, like Fracture (ok I haven't actually seen it but I did remember ads for it alot before it came out). And yes, I understand the market isn't fully there, but to me at least I feel as though I have to wait around for fear of having to "double-dip" for a HD sometime in the near future. And some studios seem to do a halfway decent job at this at some just seem almost lazy.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']It works just fine.

Actually, come to think of it, I've not played a single movie in it yet...:whistle2:k[/quote]

that is a problem..wtf
 
[quote name='dallow']Dump that mcshitty add-on.[/quote]

the add on is just as good as the a2 sans some hd audio limitations...

get one for your pc!
 
[quote name='guyver2077']that is a problem..wtf[/QUOTE]

Well, watched 300 (SD side) on my dad's mega nice Sammy HDTV, and I've yet to find a good time to watch The Departed. Once Batman Begins, Mallrats and Bourne get here, those will be doubled titles and I'll compare the picture.

Then, the SD versions get traded into Moviestop to go to a new title.
 
Is it just me or does the PS3 have trouble with compression. I am running the PS3 at 1080i and Pearl Harbor AND The Departed both will skip a few frames when the bandwidth goes above 18Mgs ( you know the number on the top right when you press select during a movie). Help please?!?
 
[quote name='guyver2077']the add on is just as good as the a2 sans some hd audio limitations...

get one for your pc![/quote]

That's my problem with it.

I had no luck on Blades Gizmo.

Tried Frys, BB, and Walmart (all right next to each other). It's cool, I got some air and had lunch out.
There isn't a Blockbuster near my office, so I'll try my luck there later.

The BB did have the HD DVD version out with the BD tags.
 
I didn't go with the add-on yesterday because I'd hate having to depend on my Xbox 360 to play movies. I don't like having it on that much, and I also don't like the thought of having to move all that equipment around if I ever wanted to take my player into a different room. The Xbox, the power brick, the component cables, the remote, the HD DVD add-on, and the USB cable.

With standalone player it's just the player and a power cord... I already have an extra HDMI cable on all of my tvs.
 
Hey look some stupid jackass is saying Blu-Ray is dead and buried.

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/...get-iTunes-Weakness-Product-of-the-Week.xhtml

When will people learn?

Both aren't going anywhere.

- edit Oh and look what else he said.

Not a Viable Data Storage Option

Blu-ray's biggest advantage is storage capacity; however, storage has grown so fast that you can get a 750 GB Seagate external drive for less than US$250.

To back that up on a 25 GB Blu-ray recorder would take 30 Blu-ray disks and more time than I think anyone in their right mind would accept. Neither HD-DVD nor Blu-ray are likely to become backup platforms, and most of the data we move still fits easily on a standard dual-layer DVD.

With increasingly high-speed networks, people are using things like BitTorrent to use big files or portable high-capacity hard drives. So as transport, they aren't particularly practical either.

The high-volume home for HD Optical disks remains as a replacement for the DVD. The studios, which are not doing anywhere near as well as they'd like, desperately need something to drive revenues higher.
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Now why the fuck aren't I an "analyst" or high movie exec? :lol: With every interview they seem to agree with me more and more ;)
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']I didn't go with the add-on yesterday because I'd hate having to depend on my Xbox 360 to play movies. I don't like having it on that much, and I also don't like the thought of having to move all that equipment around if I ever wanted to take my player into a different room. The Xbox, the power brick, the component cables, the remote, the HD DVD add-on, and the USB cable.

With standalone player it's just the player and a power cord... I already have an extra HDMI cable on all of my tvs.[/quote]

that definitely is a good reason.

I only have a hd tv in my bedroom so my addon either stays put next to the xbox or i just drag it to my pc.

I also like the ability to drag it around any where i go and connecting to my laptop which also has hdmi.

although having a standalone player and using the addon exclusivelly on my pc would be nice as well
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Hey look some stupid jackass is saying Blu-Ray is dead and buried.

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/WIkqRmgiiUw0IV/Blu-ray-Loses-RhapsodyMTV-Target-iTunes-Weakness-Product-of-the-Week.xhtml

When will people learn?

Both aren't going anywhere.

- edit Oh and look what else he said.



Now why the fuck aren't I an "analyst" or high movie exec? :lol: With every interview they seem to agree with me more and more ;)[/quote]I read that a couple days ago and thought of you.

However HDDs are still not a viable format for movie, software, and game transport.
 
[quote name='dallow']Dump that mcshitty add-on.[/QUOTE]

This is why people attack you back , the last couple of pages everybody seemed to be gettiing along rather well .

Now you want to get all fanboy and start some shit .

Come on you seem like an intelligent individual , you know what kind of battle that can bring .

Different people have different needs and preferences , that's why there's no one choice that is correct .
 
[quote name='guyver2077']that definitely is a good reason.

I only have a hd tv in my bedroom so my addon either stays put next to the xbox or i just drag it to my pc.

I also like the ability to drag it around any where i go and connecting to my laptop which also has hdmi.

although having a standalone player and using the addon exclusivelly on my pc would be nice as well[/QUOTE]

Can you get the add-on to work on XP ?
 
[quote name='Richlough']This is why people attack you back , the last couple of pages everybody seemed to be gettiing along rather well .

Now you want to get all fanboy and start some shit .

Come on you seem like an intelligent individual , you know what kind of battle that can bring .

Different people have different needs and preferences , that's why there's no one choice that is correct .[/quote]Erm, who's attacking me?
I've actively participated in this thead, you haven't

As I've said before, I feel the add on is a piece of crap (lack of HD audio, and all the crap that Chris described in his post), and I'd rather people spend the extra bucks (not that much) and get the HD-A2 standalone if they insist on getting an HD DVD player.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Hey look some stupid jackass is saying Blu-Ray is dead and buried.

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/...get-iTunes-Weakness-Product-of-the-Week.xhtml

When will people learn?

Both aren't going anywhere.

- edit Oh and look what else he said.



Now why the fuck aren't I an "analyst" or high movie exec? :lol: With every interview they seem to agree with me more and more ;)[/QUOTE]

So, because it isn't viable to some, we should just eliminate it? Makes no sense. Worst case scenario is that the extra space is in fact useless and doesn't get utilized. No harm done. Chances are, though, somewhere down the line, someone will find someway to make use of the extra space, which is what I was saying the whole time. Just because there are other options, doesn't mean we should limit ourselves.

Your whole argument against BD was that 'oh well, we can just compress it and fit it on something smaller, such as HD-DVD', which would've made sense, if BD wasn't able to, for some strange reason, handle compressed data.

I never said HDD wouldn't become cheaper and more viable, but arguing against another option IN ADDITION to HDDs just doesn't make sense. If you don't like using BD/HD for storage, don't use it. It's not like their success hinders the advancement of HDD in anyway, so I don't see yours (nor the analysts's) argument against it.

And, FYI, calling the guy a 'stupid jackass', then later using that same article as backing for your argument isn't exactly the smartest thing.

EDIT: And I love this part:
Blu-ray's biggest advantage is storage Learn how SAN/iQ technology works with VMware. capacity; however, storage has grown so fast that you can get a 750 GB Seagate external drive for less than US$250.

To back that up on a 25 GB Blu-ray recorder would take 30 Blu-ray disks and more time than I think anyone in their right mind would accept. Neither HD-DVD nor Blu-ray are likely to become backup platforms, and most of the data we move still fits easily on a standard dual-layer DVD.
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He goes on to rant about how inconvenient BD/HD will be because of their 'limited' space (when compared to HDDs in 4-5 years time), yet he says the whole 9GBs of space DVDs have will be sufficient. :rofl:
 
[quote name='guyver2077']
its kind of ignorant to call the add on a piece of crap.. it was worth every penny and is on par with any standalone player.
[/quote]You're right, it is however a poor choice.

ON PAR?!

What HD audio options does it have?
 
[quote name='dallow']You're right, it is however a poor choice.

ON PAR?!

What HD audio options does it have?[/quote]

do you have hd audio equipment? the percentage of ppl with this equipment is probably far less then ppl with hd tv's.

im not even worrying about that for now..

dd 5.1/dts plus will do just fine...
 
[quote name='guyver2077']do you have hd audio equipment?

im not even worrying about that for now..

dd 5.1 plus will do just fine...[/quote]I have a DG1000 and can listen to both PCM (which MANY newish recievers can now do) and TrueHD tracks.

Don't call it on par if it isn't.

(Sony has a budget reciever and you can get PCM and TrueHD with your PS3 for only $199 or $299 (probably 299) if you want one on the cheap)
 
I had my doubts about how much better the audio could be.
DD5.1/DTS sounded alright in my book.

But wow.
It's much like going HD in terms of video, you can't go back to standard def!

I was watching Seven Years in Tibet, and there's a quiet scene in his little home. He hears a knock on the door and walks over to open it.

I tested that scene switching back and forth from DD5.1 and the LPCM soundtrack.

On the DD track, I heard the knock, and some slight shuffling as he walked to the door.
OK, normal. How can you improve on something so simple?

On the LPCM track, I heard the knock, I heard him turn, every step he took on the wooden floors, I heard boot knocking them and the wood creaking, the door crack open.

This isn't about just "louder" sound, it's actually hearing sound that is LOST due to the compression.
I turned up the DD track to see if maybe it's just really muted, but no, it's missing.

That's what really opened my ears to HD audio, you hear everything.
 
[quote name='dallow']Erm, who's attacking me?
I've actively participated in this thead, you haven't

As I've said before, I feel the add on is a piece of crap (lack of HD audio, and all the crap that Chris described in his post), and I'd rather people spend the extra bucks (not that much) and get the HD-A2 standalone if they insist on getting an HD DVD player.[/QUOTE]

Truth be told , you're basically a total dick to anyone who dares to have their own opinion and/or disagrees with you .
If sticking up for myself is attacking you , you need therapy .
You probably do anyway , you seem proud to display the fact that people use your name as a synonym for stalking .

[quote name='guyver2077']do you have hd audio equipment? the percentage of ppl with this equipment is probably far less then ppl with hd tv's.

im not even worrying about that for now..

dd 5.1/dts plus will do just fine...[/QUOTE]

I have a 720p TV and DD 5.1/DTS and a mortgage , wife & child .
It's good enough for me .
Fact is , I don't know anyone with even close to what I have , as a set-up .
 
[quote name='Richlough']Truth be told , you're basically a total dick to anyone who dares to have their own opinion and/or disagrees with you .
If sticking up for myself is attacking you , you need therapy .
You probably do anyway , you seem proud to display the fact that people use your name as a synonym for stalking .



I have a 720p TV and DD 5.1/DTS and a mortgage , wife & child .
It's good enough for me .
Fact is , I don't know anyone with even close to what I have , as a set-up .[/quote]Like I said, who is attacking me? Are you?
You have 7 posts in this thead.

I wasn't even calling YOUR HD add on shitty. I was saying that to cochese in half jest.

And it is quite funny that my username has become a local CAG meme, yes.

Chinese HD DVD Player on track for 2007 holiday season

Think we can expect it for less than the 360 add-on?
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That actually looks neat!

Choose this over the add on people.
Actually no, the A2 will probably cost the same as this machine by the time it comes out.
 
[quote name='dallow']Like I said, who is attacking me? Are you?
You have 7 posts in this thead.

I wasn't even calling YOUR HD add on shitty. I was saying that to cochese in half jest.

And it is quite funny that my username has become a local CAG meme, yes.

That actually looks neat!

Choose this over the add on people.[/QUOTE]

HA HA , stalking is cool .

I just got the add-on lastweek .
I guess I'm not allowed to talk about HD DVD's .
I don't think I have to ask your permission to post on a public message board .
 
[quote name='Richlough']HA HA , stalking is cool .

I just got the add-on lastweek .
I guess I'm not allowed to talk about HD DVD's .
I don't think I have to ask your permission to post on a public message board .[/quote]Ok man, that's all I'm saying.
How do you go about saying "everyone attacks me" when you've barely been here?

I'm sorry I called your add-on shitty. Did you just get a little defensive about that?
But I do feel you should take it back and spend just a little, a little more (check the deals and get in on the amazon deal) to get the standalone Toshiba player. (8 free movies!)

I'm fine with you posting here, I never said to stop.
You just "semi" called me out, out of the blue!

Welcome to High Definition, I guess.
 
[quote name='dallow']Ok man, that's all I'm saying.
How do you go about saying "everyone attacks me" when you've barely been here?

I'm sorry I called your add-on shitty. Did you just get a little defensive about that?
But I do feel you should take it back and spend just a little, a little more (check the deals and get in on the amazon deal) to get the standalone Toshiba player. (8 free movies!)

I'm fine with you posting here, I never said to stop.
You just "semi" called me out, out of the blue!

Welcome to High Definition, I guess.[/QUOTE]

Thanks , I rely on opposing views to get the other side of the story .
Your knowledge is seemingly top notch in those areas .
 
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