[quote name='Sporadic']Sorry, it doesn't work like that.
You can't take the New York Times sourcing "two Viacom executives with knowledge of the deal but who asked not to be identified" and then try to post some "prove it." bullshit about Fox and Disney even though all signs point to them getting something especially after Disney's wink-and-nod no comment awhile back.[/quote]
You're making the logical fallacy of "some As are Bs, and some Bs are Cs; thus, all As are Cs." There is ample tangible evidence of Paramount and Dreamworks receiving a $150 million benefits package, from the logical absurdity of going HD DVD exclusive as opposed to format neutral/BR exclusive (imagine if Activision took all their franchises to just the PS3 and stopped putting them out on the 360, as a means of comparison), to the anonymous sources you refuse to believe, to the abruptness of the deal (why would Paramount press and package copies of "Blades of Glory" on BR, only to not send them out to be sold? That's called "taking a loss" right there). OTOH, if you can source the same kind of evidence that suggests Fox or Disney are being bought out, I'll admit as much. You'll have to excuse me if I don't find "Paramount's doing it, so Fox and Disney must be too!" as a compelling reason for believing you. That's an argument based on blind faith, and not on evidence. Is it possible that they're getting perks? Yep. Is it likely they're getting perks? Yep. Have you, or anyone else here, SHOWN evidence of those perks? nope.
That's the big difference, puddin'.
As for anonymous sources, that's nothing new in media, and it won't cease being a mundane and necessary part of the news. It's natural for people employed at Viacom to speak under condition on anonymity about the deal, especially when Paramount's public statement on payment/remuneration is "no comment." You're a wrestling fan, you read dirt sheets; how often do they use anonymous sources? ALWAYS. They've never said "here's what Paul London told us about this upcoming storyline!" Speaking under condition of anonymity doesn't make Paramount's being bought off false or untrue, no different that speaking on condition of anonymity by Richard Armitage and Karl Rove led to Bob Novak
ing over Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson in a political assassination for the ages.
Yes, character assassination while you just choose to make shit up about me or imagine that me and gizmo are the same person. Newsflash, we aren't the same person, we don't have alot of the same views and
I'm not on anybody's team in here. I just can't stand most of you Blu-Ray guys and I hate most of your bullshit FUD spin shit you do.
I don't know if there's confusion here. I don't mean character assassination about ME. I don't care, frankly, what y'all say about me ('sides, you already proclaimed your love before, and you can't ever take that back). I meant character assassination about articles discussing the format war. I put up a Blu-Ray.com link earlier today, and warned to "hold your nose" while clicking the link. It was merely a useful and well-organized resource that contained collected links to an unbiased media magazine that gave visual data for movie-based marketshare per week, year to date, and since inception. They're valid data, even if you have to click on a link to Blu-ray.com to access them. So, I don't know if you looked at the link, but you felt like attacking it, instead of seeing the link for what it was: a conduit to a useful and unbiased resource. It's assuming and proclaiming every bit of news that doesn't benefit HD DVD as coming from an uninformed or biased source, rather than actually tackling the arguments and presentation, or, dare I ask, providing contrary data. I've not seen one iota of evidence that the YTD marketshare benefits Blu-Ray enough that HD DVD would need to sell 150% MORE discs than it has sold this year, just to TIE with BR.
Ultimately, it's the lack of counter evidence that people claim, the flippant disregard for valid data, along with the cynicism and skepticism towards any and all news sources, that comprise the character assassination. Not me; it ain't about me.
Oh, I believe Paramount/Dreamworks got that beautiful novelty check from Toshiba/DVD Forum but trying to say Fox/Disney also didn't get the same thing is bullshit.
I'll say it again, because it DOES work that way. Prove it.
(Re what dallow said above, I said "prove it" both in the context of Gizmo's claim that the sales gap is narrowing and also that Disney/Fox have been bought off. So, you're both right).
[quote name='Sarang01']You know myke I usually expect so little bias from you and for you to show this utter Blu-Boy love with glasses on disgusts me. I really expect better from YOU of all people.[/QUOTE]
Huh? What? Why? I own a Blu-Ray player, I relish in the fact that Blu-Ray remains the dominant hidef disc format both in the US and abroad, and I relish in the fact that the sales trends have been stable enough that there's little worry in my mind. Utter Blu-Boy love? Yegads. I'm not neutral on this one; though I suppose that suggests I'm being bought off. Would that that were the case! :lol:
